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I mean what is the point if their is no point?unlovely
You can always live life the way you want to live it. Create your own point or follow the many diverse philosophies around the world. Just take it a day at a time. Whatever happens happens. That's what I say to that.
You are not alone, I think of suicide and am pretty depressed sometimes too. The important thing is to try to live your life to help others though imo. From my experience self actions gave me terrible feelings. Nihilism does not mean necessarily we have to be depressed friend though I am considering opening my eyes to another religion like Islam, Mormonism or Judaism but I doubt either is that open to converts or that either will provide benefits like curing sense of a void.I've had multiple episodes of going close to the brink. Although I am a pretty messed up person in terms of mental stability, I suspect I am far from the only one.
jetpower3
[QUOTE="jetpower3"]You are not alone, I think of suicide and am pretty depressed sometimes too. The important thing is to try to live your life to help others though imo. From my experience self actions gave me terrible feelings. Nihilism does not mean necessarily we have to be depressed friend though I am considering opening my eyes to another religion like Islam, Mormonism or Judaism but I doubt either is that open to converts or that either will provide benefits like curing sense of a void.I've had multiple episodes of going close to the brink. Although I am a pretty messed up person in terms of mental stability, I suspect I am far from the only one.
unlovely
It's the unanswerable question that drives us all. How to fill that void?
I'm starting to think life wouldn't be life at all if we didn't have some void to fill. Bliss and perfection is neither real nor desirable.
Plus, victory is boring.
You are not alone, I think of suicide and am pretty depressed sometimes too. The important thing is to try to live your life to help others though imo. From my experience self actions gave me terrible feelings. Nihilism does not mean necessarily we have to be depressed friend though I am considering opening my eyes to another religion like Islam, Mormonism or Judaism but I doubt either is that open to converts or that either will provide benefits like curing sense of a void.[QUOTE="unlovely"][QUOTE="jetpower3"]
I've had multiple episodes of going close to the brink. Although I am a pretty messed up person in terms of mental stability, I suspect I am far from the only one.
jetpower3
It's the unanswerable question that drives us all. How to fill that void?
I'm starting to think life wouldn't be life at all if we didn't have some void to fill. Bliss and perfection is neither real nor desirable.
Plus, .
Very true, that void needs to go in my view though, I feel as if money can cure the void somewhat... I mean it is hard to be upset when you do not have to worry about finances. In my view only the elite in society know true happiness.[QUOTE="AussieePet"]idk what that isjetpower3
It's basically the renouncement of any meaning or point to existence whatsoever.
It's kind of a paradox to many because the idea that "nothing means anything" is still something.
Sounds pointless to me , who idea was this anyways?[QUOTE="jetpower3"][QUOTE="AussieePet"]idk what that isAussieePet
It's basically the renouncement of any meaning or point to existence whatsoever.
It's kind of a paradox to many because the idea that "nothing means anything" is still something.
Sounds pointless to me , who idea was this anyways?How can nihilism not be pointless when there is no point?!
[QUOTE="jetpower3"][QUOTE="unlovely"] You are not alone, I think of suicide and am pretty depressed sometimes too. The important thing is to try to live your life to help others though imo. From my experience self actions gave me terrible feelings. Nihilism does not mean necessarily we have to be depressed friend though I am considering opening my eyes to another religion like Islam, Mormonism or Judaism but I doubt either is that open to converts or that either will provide benefits like curing sense of a void.unlovely
It's the unanswerable question that drives us all. How to fill that void?
I'm starting to think life wouldn't be life at all if we didn't have some void to fill. Bliss and perfection is neither real nor desirable.
Plus, .
Very true, that void needs to go in my view though, I feel as if money can cure the void somewhat... I mean it is hard to be upset when you do not have to worry about finances. In my view only the elite in society know true happiness.Please don't get caught into that trap. Even if you never had to worry about money again, there's still the omnipresent insecurity and risk of death and tragedy in the world. No money will save you from that. You might even find less happiness because of your lack of distractions in terms of career or "filler". And there will be many, many, many "sharks" of all shapes and sizes gunning for you.
Seems like a very depressing way to think. I don't spend a ton of time thinking about the purpose of my life, I am too busy living it. We all die eventually, might as well enjoy life while we can.
Very true, that void needs to go in my view though, I feel as if money can cure the void somewhat... I mean it is hard to be upset when you do not have to worry about finances. In my view only the elite in society know true happiness.[QUOTE="unlovely"][QUOTE="jetpower3"]
It's the unanswerable question that drives us all. How to fill that void?
I'm starting to think life wouldn't be life at all if we didn't have some void to fill. Bliss and perfection is neither real nor desirable.
Plus, .
jetpower3
Please don't get caught into that trap. Even if you never had to worry about money again, there's still the omnipresent insecurity and risk of death and tragedy in the world. No money will save you from that. You might even find less happiness because of your lack of distractions in terms of career or "filler". And there will be many, many, many "sharks" of all shapes and sizes gunning for you.
True there will never be full happiness and fulfillment but money and prestige certainly raise someone to a higher opportunity of attainment.I'm an existential nihilist, and I really don't find it depressing, nor does it get in the way of me going about my life.Blood-Scribe
Yeah, I just enjoy myself while I can like anyone else really. I haven't found much of an emotional or psychological effect while being a nihilist because I don't really think about it or care.
[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]I'm an existential nihilist, and I really don't find it depressing, nor does it get in the way of me going about my life.l4dak47Same. Are you a hedonistic person or do you have a different philosophy? Well I lean towards utilitarianism, so I suppose there'd be a bit of an overlap between that and hedonism.
[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]I'm an existential nihilist, and I really don't find it depressing, nor does it get in the way of me going about my life.Blood-ScribeSame. Are you a hedonistic person or do you have a different philosophy? Well I lean towards utilitarianism, so I suppose there'd be a bit of an overlap between that and hedonism. Ah, interesting choice.
[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]I'm an existential nihilist, and I really don't find it depressing, nor does it get in the way of me going about my life.l4dak47Same. Are you a hedonistic person or do you have a different philosophy? why am I not surprised you two are depressed idiots...if anything atleast be a secular humanist.....
I adopted a mindset of Nihilism for a short period of time. I can't exactly remember what happened that made me change my mind, but it was a mixture of reading more books, religiously listening to music, and appreciating the simple fact that humanity in itself is a very beautiful thing to have. That, and it also completely undermines human nature; we strive for a purpose, and that's usually what keeps us all together in the head.
[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]I'm an existential nihilist, and I really don't find it depressing, nor does it get in the way of me going about my life.kingkong0124Same. Are you a hedonistic person or do you have a different philosophy? why am I not surprised you two are depressed idiots...if anything atleast be a secular humanist.....
I'm a secular humanist and well...sometimes nihilists can be a buzzkill.
Actually more like 99% of the time.
But then there's that 1% that doesn't brood all the time that I only seem to find on the Internets.
why am I not surprised you two are depressed idiots...if anything atleast be a secular humanist.....[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] Same. Are you a hedonistic person or do you have a different philosophy? THE_DRUGGIE
I'm a secular humanist and well...sometimes nihilists can be a buzzkill.
Actually more like 99% of the time.
But then there's that 1% that doesn't brood all the time that I only seem to find on the Internets.
these 2 people disagree
http://www.depressionforums.org/forums/topic/63727-long-term-depression-and-nihilism/
http://www.depressionforums.org/forums/topic/51126-nihilism-depression-and-suicide/
If atheism is true then I feel nilism is true, but as a result I think it ultimately an unlivable philosophy. one cannot go around as if they have no meaning thus they create a meaning for themselves, deluding themselves from the reality.
I used to think I was existential nihilist, but to frank, it really gets too depressing and although it holds truth, I don't really have use for it.
It gets lonely too, because when you're an existential nihilist, there's hardly anyone who would think like you.
I think nihilism and relativism are inherently unscientific because science relies on the assumption that there is objective truth. A nihilist could not be a scientist because it would not be justified for a one to look for an answer which may not exist. For a nihilist, it is easier to assume that the question has no answer than to continue searching for an answer. In my opinion, nihilism and relativism are silly ideologies for the intellectually lazy.
[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]
[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] why am I not surprised you two are depressed idiots...if anything atleast be a secular humanist.....kingkong0124
I'm a secular humanist and well...sometimes nihilists can be a buzzkill.
Actually more like 99% of the time.
But then there's that 1% that doesn't brood all the time that I only seem to find on the Internets.
these 2 people disagree
http://www.depressionforums.org/forums/topic/63727-long-term-depression-and-nihilism/
http://www.depressionforums.org/forums/topic/51126-nihilism-depression-and-suicide/
99.02%
It seems to be, by default, correct, but it's too depressing of a worldview for me to adhere to.
coolbeans90
By Default? Nihilism goes against all intuition it is hardly default.
Well that's epistemological nihilism, which I see as incoherent for similar reasons. There's a lot of different types of nihilism and it really would've helped if the TC specified which specific type they were talking about.I think nihilism and relativism are inherently unscientific because science relies on the assumption that there is objective truth. A nihilist could not be a scientist because it would not be justified for a one to look for an answer which may not exist. For a nihilist, it is easier to assume that the question has no answer than to continue searching for an answer. In my opinion, nihilism and relativism are silly ideologies for the intellectually lazy.
PWSteal_Ldpinch
[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]
It seems to be, by default, correct, but it's too depressing of a worldview for me to adhere to.
Philokalia
By Default? Nihilism goes against all intuition it is hardly default.
No it doesn't; without being taught morals from birth, we don't have a system of morals. No right, no wrong, no inherent value, etc.
I can see its merit and appeal, but I personally dislike it. Thus, I'm not a nihilist.
ghoklebutter
*brofists*
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