What do you think is the wolrds best military(s)?

I would have the US and UK as well as top alliance, they and would seriously hurt someone who disagreed with them.

Japan has good technology but thats it. They also have the USA in good terms :)

China has a lot of people but can the fight a war and use strategy? Do they have good military personal?

US would overall be the best IMO but I think war is better with allies than it is soloing.

[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="StarFox-Elite"]

British Army.

We have the finest, best trained soldiers in the world.

(Before you flame me, we do have a VERY good army, but that doesn't mean that we could hold the line against something like the full force of China, a single British soldier in a duel in any terrain against any other country's soldier would win 4/5 if they could duel eachother again and again...)

StarFox-Elite

No?

What, well they wouldn't be duelling but if the situation arised, a british soldier in a one on one firefight with any other soldier he'd probably win in most cases...

And no offence, but I can't see how the british army isn't the finest trained, since they don't have very much friendly fire accidents at all...unlike the US army....

friendly fire is extremely rare to non-existent in the british army... and that says alot. And someone mentioned how israel is always fighting so they have experience... Britain always manages to get itslef into wars, we have our military all over place fighting and drilling all the time.

[QUOTE="StarFox-Elite"][QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="StarFox-Elite"]

British Army.

We have the finest, best trained soldiers in the world.

(Before you flame me, we do have a VERY good army, but that doesn't mean that we could hold the line against something like the full force of China, a single British soldier in a duel in any terrain against any other country's soldier would win 4/5 if they could duel eachother again and again...)

cpo335

No?

What, well they wouldn't be duelling but if the situation arised, a british soldier in a one on one firefight with any other soldier he'd probably win in most cases...

And no offence, but I can't see how the british army isn't the finest trained, since they don't have very much friendly fire accidents at all...unlike the US army....

What? Friendly fire? Where'd you get that? Sources (And don't give me that biased crap you read).

Yes but what happens, what the friendly fire actually was is just rediculous sometimes...

like how do your AA guns take down 20 birtish choppers? yeah Iraq is really gonna have choppers coming after you...choppers with the flag on them...

StarFox-Elite

yeah ive read plenty of articles stating that NATO trops have to raise a flag and shout they are british/german/french/ w/e and hop ethe i quote "trigger happy" americans dont shoot. if they do then they just run.

And this is a fact... in the Gulf war Americca destroyed more of our tanks(british ones) than the iraqi forces. they destroyed alot more actually cause the american pilots just shot anything that moved...

[QUOTE="Mudig"]The AK-47 is influenced by the MP44. The Russian may not like to admit it, but just look at the whole design and capabilities.NicktehImperial

Actually the designs have nothing in common internally.

1. MP44 had the free standing pistol grip, at the time no other rifle at the time had this very useful and revolutionary feature. When the AK-47 was created, it followed the same exact way and had a free standing pistol grip.

2. A lot of people think that the MP44 was recoil operated, that's not true. Both the AK-47 and the MP44 are both gas operated and fire from a closed bolt.

3. Hugo Schmeisser the designer behind the MP-44 was working in the same factory where Kalshinokov was perfecting the AK-47 and he stayed there from 1946 to 1949.

I think it depends on who is using them. In the hands of a poorly trained, poorly financed fighting force, the AK-47 hands down. Though in the hands of a well trained, well financed, and specialized fighting force, the M16. A properly trained army will clean it's weapons, and take care of it's equipment. so the jamming issue is not really an issue at all. Also, the sheer amount of variants allows forces to be more specialized. For instance, I was a paratrooper, the smaller M4 allowed me to reduce my load and be more mobile.

I think overall the AK47 is better, since it can cater to a wider range of fighters, but in the hands of a professional fighting force, the M16 (and variants) is a superior weapon.

[QUOTE="Devoo55"]Wow, I'm surprized only one person said China. China could smash everyone. They have a huge army.NicktehImperial

Yeah it is huge but our forces are better, plus, I mean like, its not that the numbers wouldn't matter because China still does have a good army but our forces are the best equipped and have the best training and gear ETC.

ehhh...the Israeli's beat the crap out of us in arial combat...and im not sure about anything else...but who really cares who has the best army

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="Devoo55"]Wow, I'm surprized only one person said China. China could smash everyone. They have a huge army.ArmoredAshes

Yeah it is huge but our forces are better, plus, I mean like, its not that the numbers wouldn't matter because China still does have a good army but our forces are the best equipped and have the best training and gear ETC.

ehhh...the Israeli's beat the crap out of us in arial combat...and im not sure about anything else...but who really cares who has the best army

Because it's important. People fear you, but at the same time they hate you.

The United States is the unquestioned leader in terms of being the best military. It might not have the best/largest in everything (technology, training, manpower), but it's the best blend of all of them. Some countries have better tech but US's isn't so far behind that its superior size wouldn't crush a small army. Likewise, some countries with large armies are too backwards technologically that the gap is big enough that the US could hold out, even with a slightly smaller size.

Also, if you look at history and you look at standard wars (that means, don't include insurgent wars such as the American Revolution or Vietnam), very rarely has the country with the weaker navy defeated the one with the stronger navy. The US easily has the strongest navy, so in most wars, the US would be able to win.

One country that I've seen thrown up a lot here is China and I'd have to completely disagree. A lot of people? Sure, so it might be able to overwhelm a country like Britain. But technologically speaking, they're very far behind the curve. Part of their navy includes ships built in the 50s. Also, none of the leading generals of military has ever served in a war (which basically means almost nobody in the military has served in a real, actual war).

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="Devoo55"]Wow, I'm surprized only one person said China. China could smash everyone. They have a huge army.ArmoredAshes

Yeah it is huge but our forces are better, plus, I mean like, its not that the numbers wouldn't matter because China still does have a good army but our forces are the best equipped and have the best training and gear ETC.

ehhh...the Israeli's beat the crap out of us in arial combat...and im not sure about anything else...but who really cares who has the best army

Israel's air force is better than who's, the Americans? Sorry, but F-16s, while good, are no match for F/A-18s, stealth bombers, and the upcoming F-22s.

Also, the M16 is not a better weapon than the AK-47. It is slightly more accurate and has better range, but is weaker and can jam easier, even though that really isn't much of a problem. Even though I'm not from the U.S., my dad was a marine and he hated the M16.

Wow, I'm surprized only one person said China. China could smash everyone. They have a huge army.Devoo55

[QUOTE="ArmoredAshes"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="Devoo55"]Wow, I'm surprized only one person said China. China could smash everyone. They have a huge army.GamerForca

Yeah it is huge but our forces are better, plus, I mean like, its not that the numbers wouldn't matter because China still does have a good army but our forces are the best equipped and have the best training and gear ETC.

ehhh...the Israeli's beat the crap out of us in arial combat...and im not sure about anything else...but who really cares who has the best army

Israel's air force is better than who's, the Americans? Sorry, but F-16s, while good, are no match for F/A-18s, stealth bombers, and the upcoming F-22s.

Also, the M16 is not a better weapon than the AK-47. It is slightly more accurate and has better range, but is weaker and can jam easier, even though that really isn't much of a problem. Even though I'm not from the U.S., my dad was a marine and he hated the M16.

As far as I know, the US has the largest number of soldiers, but the Canadian forces are among the best trained soldiers in the world, especially when it comes to snipers.RustyIrish

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]duestchland353535355353535

they have the best weapons and the most genius

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]duestchlandNicktehImperial

Are you German?

does it matter?

[QUOTE="Clinton015"]most definately the French......on a serious note...US of course353535355353535

yes sir.... good point. here is an image depicting german(red) and french(blue) troop movements during World War 2.

Dont be *****, (no one likesfve asterics)

An army aint the best cuz of its movility, technology or rifles.

An army is the best becauseof its men, without them there's no army at all. That doesnt mean china's gonna win cuz they are more. one motivated soldier is worth a million mercenaries. a lader isnt somene that makes his soldiers fight the best they can, a soldier is someone that makes his soldiers fight better that the best they can. Now dont start shouting "land of the free and home of the brave", cuz you aint the most motivated army in the world, dont believe me? then ask yourself:

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW AN AMERICAN PILOT A PLANE STRAIGHT INTO A BUILDING?

hell, wars aint even won by killing people any more!!!!

the wars of today are won by ideals, ideals that make people pilot an airplane straight into a building.

"behind this mask there's not only flesh, behind this mask there's an idea, and ideas mr. creedy, are bulletproof"

trust me kaptain americas out there, you aint gonna take oveer the world by killing fathers, brothers, sons and mothers.

The United States is the unquestioned leader in terms of being the best military. It might not have the best/largest in everything (technology, training, manpower), but it's the best blend of all of them. Some countries have better tech but US's isn't so far behind that its superior size wouldn't crush a small army. Likewise, some countries with large armies are too backwards technologically that the gap is big enough that the US could hold out, even with a slightly smaller size.

Also, if you look at history and you look at standard wars (that means, don't include insurgent wars such as the American Revolution or Vietnam), very rarely has the country with the weaker navy defeated the one with the stronger navy. The US easily has the strongest navy, so in most wars, the US would be able to win.

One country that I've seen thrown up a lot here is China and I'd have to completely disagree. A lot of people? Sure, so it might be able to overwhelm a country like Britain. But technologically speaking, they're very far behind the curve. Part of their navy includes ships built in the 50s. Also, none of the leading generals of military has ever served in a war (which basically means almost nobody in the military has served in a real, actual war).

Vampyronight

so your logic dictates that if we (other countries) know that we cant defeat you in a "traditional" war, we're gonna fight you in one?

Vietnam thaught us that good firepower and technology are as usefull as spoons in today's war. Do you really believe america's enemies will march straight into battle against you when they could, I dont know, strap a bomb in a guy's chest and make him blow hmself up in the midle of times square?

For now the United States. In the next 15 - 20 years China will have the worlds best military followed by Russia and then the Untied States.

The Problem with the American Military is that it's way too big for our economy to support forever while at the same time it's way too small to handle all the responsibilities being placed on it. If our government doesn't get it's act together we could end up suffering the same fate as the Roman Empire.

I think the best way for us to maintain our military strength is to adopt a mind our own business forign policy and not but into the affairs of other nations that never attacked us. Our military should only be used to attack countries, not radical organizations, that directly attacked us or our allies first.

To make sure that the American people won't become apathetic and ignore random wars caused by our country we should create a system similar to Israel's where service in the military would be mandatory for all citizens even females. That way it affects everyone instead of making it easier to feel detached, because as it stands, the only Americans that are feeling the effects of this war are the family and friends of the people that make up this all volunteer military. I think that's why more Americans are interested in watching Paris go to jail instead watching to see if the surge is working.

hell, wars aint even won by killing people any more!!!!

the wars of today are won by ideals, ideals that make people pilot an airplane straight into a building.

"behind this mask there's not only flesh, behind this mask there's an idea, and ideas mr. creedy, are bulletproof"

trust me kaptain americas out there, you aint gonna take oveer the world by killing fathers, brothers, sons and mothers.

alexeduardo

EVIL? FASCIST?

THEY FIGHT FOR THEIR FIVE ASTERISKIN' RELIGION!!!!

WOULD YOU BE EVIL IF YOU FOUGHT FOR(insert rligion name)???

FASCIST???? what is wrong with you??? fasist is a corporate, thera-capitalist goverment (kinda like the us)

I would go with Plaestine .. :roll:

EVIL? FASCIST?

THEY FIGHT FOR THEIR FIVE ASTERISKIN' RELIGION!!!!

WOULD YOU BE EVIL IF YOU FOUGHT FOR(insert rligion name)???

FASCIST???? what is wrong with you??? fasist is a corporate, thera-capitalist goverment (kinda like the us)

alexeduardo

For now the United States. In the next 15 - 20 years China will have the worlds best military followed by Russia and then the Untied States.

genfactor

Russia before the US...you should take a look at the russian economy before saying that. Russia was confronted by an economic crisis during the 90's and the consequences were desatrous for their economy. Of course, today they still have a lot of military equipment but no money to make them work...Russia will need a lot more than 15 years to get to this level.

For now the United States. In the next 15 - 20 years China will have the worlds best military followed by Russia and then the Untied States. genfactor

No it won't. In 15-20 years a massive energy depression is going to occur as the effects of Peak Oil begin. China is the world's fastest rising importer of oil. While the United States is still heavily oil reliant, at least it and the EU have been making strides to cut off oil dependancy. China's oil use is only increasing and they have not put any concievable effort into alternative sources. They already have a hard enough time with feeding their populace as it is, a powerless China is going to lead to lots of death and starvation. The country is likely to collapse in on itself and break into multiple third world nations, if it's lucky anyway.

The Problem with the American Military is that it's way too big for our economy to support forever while at the same time it's way too small to handle all the responsibilities being placed on it. If our government doesn't get it's act together we could end up suffering the same fate as the Roman Empire.

No, the United States is probably going to be one of the few countries that survives the Energy Depression.

No it won't be cutting back on military spending. Especially if the United States starts to deal with a third world refugee crisis. Hell, the US military's size may actually boom during the Energy Depression.

I think the best way for us to maintain our military strength is to adopt a mind our own business forign policy and not but into the affairs of other nations that never attacked us.

It's all about oil. That's the only reason anyfirst world country ever does anything in the third world.

Our military should only be used to attack countries, not radical organizations, that directly attacked us or our allies first.

Their was nothing wrong with the US pursuit of the Bin and Al Quada. They were even perfectly justified in WTFPWNING the Taliban.

To make sure that the American people won't become apathetic and ignore random wars caused by our country we should create a system similar to Israel's where service in the military would be mandatory for all citizens even females.

Agreed. Americans have come to foolishly believe in the "no cost war". Bush has done much to offload the cost of the war on the short term and pile it all up in the long term.

That way it affects everyone instead of making it easier to feel detached, because as it stands, the only Americans that are feeling the effects of this war are the family and friends of the people that make up this all volunteer military. I think that's why more Americans are interested in watching Paris go to jail instead watching to see if the surge is working.

To be fair, Paris Hilton's trial was actually a very good means of observing the current status of the legal system. Since Paris getting off, as she has so many times before, is not good to simply let slide. Upper class corruption needs to be exposed.

Dont be *****, (no one likesfve asterics)

An army aint the best cuz of its movility, technology or rifles.

An army is the best becauseof its men, without them there's no army at all. That doesnt mean china's gonna win cuz they are more. one motivated soldier is worth a million mercenaries. a lader isnt somene that makes his soldiers fight the best they can, a soldier is someone that makes his soldiers fight better that the best they can. Now dont start shouting "land of the free and home of the brave", cuz you aint the most motivated army in the world, dont believe me? then ask yourself:

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW AN AMERICAN PILOT A PLANE STRAIGHT INTO A BUILDING?

alexeduardo

US soldiers fight for their life and for their family. A live soldier is better than a dead one(and can see what he/she fought for)... People that sacrifice themselves by piloting a plane into a building tell sacrifice their kids by telling them to do the same. About 5 months ago a US soldier jumped on a grenade to save fellow soldiers and you wouldn't call that a sacrifice?? Also what building do you think an American pilot would fly into??? NONE because they are almost all innocent civilians(Yes I know their are still casualties of war BTW).

EDIT: CaptHawkeye, nice post BTW.

Dont be *****, (no one likesfve asterics)

An army aint the best cuz of its movility, technology or rifles.

An army is the best becauseof its men, without them there's no army at all. That doesnt mean china's gonna win cuz they are more. one motivated soldier is worth a million mercenaries. a lader isnt somene that makes his soldiers fight the best they can, a soldier is someone that makes his soldiers fight better that the best they can. Now dont start shouting "land of the free and home of the brave", cuz you aint the most motivated army in the world, dont believe me? then ask yourself:

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW AN AMERICAN PILOT A PLANE STRAIGHT INTO A BUILDING?

alexeduardo

This debate is laughable. 95% of you have no idea what you are talking about you.

From my own experience people, The internet if full of idiots who try to act like experts anytime a debate comes up. So please people, lighten up the last thing you should do is believe anything in this thread.

All armies are moronic, since they are basically used to kill people.

All armies are moronic, since they are basically used to kill people.

Greedo_What

All armies are moronic, since they are basically used to kill people.

Greedo_What

Anyways, America probablly.

I think America has the best, I know theres England and Isreal too but ours is much bigger plus we have the Marine core, a smaller more elite army that runs on its own.

Which country do you think has the best amed forces?

NicktehImperial

USA

Also, its written MARINE CORPS and yes we are elite but don't ever refer to us as an ARMY. There's a reason Marines are called Marines and the Army calls its people Soldiers.

[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

I think America has the best, I know theres England and Isreal too but ours is much bigger plus we have the Marine core, a smaller more elite army that runs on its own.

Which country do you think has the best amed forces?

MarineJcksn

USA

Also, its written MARINE CORPS and yes we are elite but don't ever refer to us as an ARMY. There's a reason Marines are called Marines and the Army calls its people Soldiers.

Every time my dad hears the news hes like, "we aren soldiers, were marines dumbass".

[QUOTE="alexeduardo"]

Dont be *****, (no one likesfve asterics)

An army aint the best cuz of its movility, technology or rifles.

An army is the best becauseof its men, without them there's no army at all. That doesnt mean china's gonna win cuz they are more. one motivated soldier is worth a million mercenaries. a lader isnt somene that makes his soldiers fight the best they can, a soldier is someone that makes his soldiers fight better that the best they can. Now dont start shouting "land of the free and home of the brave", cuz you aint the most motivated army in the world, dont believe me? then ask yourself:

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW AN AMERICAN PILOT A PLANE STRAIGHT INTO A BUILDING?

whipassmt

[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="alexeduardo"]

Dont be *****, (no one likesfve asterics)

An army aint the best cuz of its movility, technology or rifles.

An army is the best becauseof its men, without them there's no army at all. That doesnt mean china's gonna win cuz they are more. one motivated soldier is worth a million mercenaries. a lader isnt somene that makes his soldiers fight the best they can, a soldier is someone that makes his soldiers fight better that the best they can. Now dont start shouting "land of the free and home of the brave", cuz you aint the most motivated army in the world, dont believe me? then ask yourself:

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW AN AMERICAN PILOT A PLANE STRAIGHT INTO A BUILDING?

Nexon12

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

I think America has the best, I know theres England and Isreal too but ours is much bigger plus we have the Marine core, a smaller more elite army that runs on its own.

Which country do you think has the best amed forces?

Def_Jef88

USA

Also, its written MARINE CORPS and yes we are elite but don't ever refer to us as an ARMY. There's a reason Marines are called Marines and the Army calls its people Soldiers.

Every time my dad hears the news hes like, "we aren soldiers, were marines dumbass".

:lol: I say the same thing all the time!

No kidding, your dad's a Marine? What rank? He's probably pretty high up the chain of command. I'm E-5, close to making E-6.