what does USA offer that other countries don't?(other than Meth)

Did you just do a Sarah Palin? Europe is a country? Anyway I went to New York last year and i got these odd looks nearly every where I get. I have never felt uncomfortable living in Canada or even when i visited England over the summer.King-Saddam

That topic title is really offensive, whether a joke or not. Thats not a very intelligent way to start a productive conversation. But it's genious if you intend to incite some battle.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"] I said countries IN Europe. Yes, there are countries in Europe. Ninja-Hippo

I said that because surveys have shown that to be generally true. Don't take my word for it; here are some sources:

Muslim integration in America vs. Europe

Secular Europe's fundamental test `Islamophobia' makes integration tough for the continent's 15 million Muslims

A Trans-Atlantic Divide Exists on Muslim Integration

I'll find more if you'd like.

Whatever.

I wasn't being serious to begin with when I said that. I knew it was silly statement when I wrote it.

But we did evolve the freedoms we all now have and take granted for.

Freedom of Speech? Which country had that at the time of the constitution.

Right to bear arms? Some countrys even today have trouble with that idea.

Iced_Earth_Rulz

That topic title is really offensive, whether a joke or not. Thats not a very intelligent way to start a productive conversation. But it's genious if you intend to incite some battle.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"] I said countries IN Europe. Yes, there are countries in Europe. Engrish_Major

I said that because surveys have shown that to be generally true. Don't take my word for it; here are some sources:

Muslim integration in America vs. Europe

Secular Europe's fundamental test `Islamophobia' makes integration tough for the continent's 15 million Muslims

A Trans-Atlantic Divide Exists on Muslim Integration

I'll find more if you'd like.

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"]Did you just do a Sarah Palin? Europe is a country? Anyway I went to New York last year and i got these odd looks nearly every where I get. I have never felt uncomfortable living in Canada or even when i visited England over the summer.Jandurin

Omfg im totally racist, j/k

[QUOTE="Iced_Earth_Rulz"]

Um..where did I say Democracys didn't exist before America?

Ninja-Hippo

Name some other countries that had the freedoms given to Americans before 1776-1787.

It's true that many countries followed in America's footsteps and based their new governments on that of the USA.

Americans our proud of their ability to be grossly self indulgent. Many may not understand why they have been granted this gift, they just know they love it, and pee on anyone else who may or may not criticise, based on an issue that may or may not exist in the real world, produced by real people that actually existed...

i felt uncomfortable in england because im used to seeing a lot of black & hispanic people, and i relate to Black american ( i hate the term african american) culture more than i do with any, so being in a mostly white place at times makes me uncomfortable

Omfg im totally racist, j/k

Euroshinobi

That topic title is really offensive, whether a joke or not. Thats not a very intelligent way to start a productive conversation. But it's genious if you intend to incite some battle.

Name some other countries that had the freedoms given to Americans before 1776-1787.

It's true that many countries followed in America's footsteps and based their new governments on that of the USA.

phillo99

But that doesn't mean "american laid the blueprint for freedom' like he claimed. As someone else pointed out, a free and democratic society existed in Ancient greece thousands of years ago.

But that doesn't mean "american laid the blueprint for freedom' like he claimed. As someone else pointed out, a free and democratic society existed in Ancient greece thousands of years ago.Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Iced_Earth_Rulz"]

Whatever.

I wasn't being serious to begin with when I said that. I knew it was silly statement when I wrote it.

But we did evolve the freedoms we all now have and take granted for.

Freedom of Speech? Which country had that at the time of the constitution.

Right to bear arms? Some countrys even today have trouble with that idea.

Ninja-Hippo

Ancient times had all kinds of things we have today. First computer? Ancient times.

Even with all the technology we have today we would still have trouble building monuments like the pyramids of Giza and other ancient wonders. My point is ancient times had a lot of things we have today. Then there came the Dark Ages. But my question was which country AT THE TIME OF THE CONSTITUTION had freedom of speech. As for the right to bear arms, I feel everyone should have the right to carry a gun to protect themselves from some of the crazys we have out there.

[QUOTE="phillo99"]

Name some other countries that had the freedoms given to Americans before 1776-1787.

It's true that many countries followed in America's footsteps and based their new governments on that of the USA.

Ninja-Hippo

But that doesn't mean "american laid the blueprint for freedom' like he claimed. As someone else pointed out, a free and democratic society existed in Ancient greece thousands of years ago.

True, but the voting requirements in 1700's America weren't that different from those in Ancient Greece, so free might not be the best choice of a word.

I'm surprised you'd say that, Shinobi, because we've discussed this before and i completely shot that idea of yours down. Britain is not a 'mostly white' place. There are fewer black and hispanic people here, definately, and you'll certainly find more black and hispanic people in the states due to the border with mexico and the slave trade. But that doesn't make the UK a white nation. I even gave you a link last time from the world travel bureau which said the UK was one of the most diverse countries on earth. Ninja-Hippo

See boy and girls...this is exactly how NOT to respond.jointed

Tell me, exactly, what is not true about this? The United States took the best from the Roman republic and combined it with a better, safer system of allowing the public freedoms whilst protecting those freedom, which no other country on the planet had done before. ;) While the United States was developing its government, Europe was composed of totalitarian regimes and empires, which were done away with after the example set by the United States. This isn't arrogance or pride, it's history.

Stupidity.Vexx88

Irrational hatred against America is cool now, amirite?

High obesity rates?MgamerBD

I'm surprised you'd say that, Shinobi, because we've discussed this before and i completely shot that idea of yours down. Britain is not a 'mostly white' place. There are fewer black and hispanic people here, definately, and you'll certainly find more black and hispanic people in the states due to the border with mexico and the slave trade. But that doesn't make the UK a white nation. I even gave you a link last time from the world travel bureau which said the UK was one of the most diverse countries on earth. Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] I'm surprised you'd say that, Shinobi, because we've discussed this before and i completely shot that idea of yours down. Britain is not a 'mostly white' place. There are fewer black and hispanic people here, definately, and you'll certainly find more black and hispanic people in the states due to the border with mexico and the slave trade. But that doesn't make the UK a white nation. I even gave you a link last time from the world travel bureau which said the UK was one of the most diverse countries on earth. Euroshinobi

Are you trying to post something?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]But that doesn't mean "american laid the blueprint for freedom' like he claimed. As someone else pointed out, a free and democratic society existed in Ancient greece thousands of years ago.Engrish_Major

You're absolutely right, i'm not here to argue against Americans; a lot of countries did follow on from the states, even today a lot of African countries which have recently stopped waring with each other and have decided to set up a proper government model it on either America, the UK or France.

But that doesn't mean "american laid the blueprint for freedom' like he claimed. As someone else pointed out, a free and democratic society existed in Ancient greece thousands of years ago.

Ninja-Hippo

Well, as he said, he meant "blueprint" in reference to the system in use today. Athens had Democracy but it's nothing like the representative governments today which resulted from the system created by the United States.

I'm surprised you'd say that, Shinobi, because we've discussed this before and i completely shot that idea of yours down. Britain is not a 'mostly white' place. There are fewer black and hispanic people here, definately, and you'll certainly find more black and hispanic people in the states due to the border with mexico and the slave trade. But that doesn't make the UK a white nation. I even gave you a link last time from the world travel bureau which said the UK was one of the most diverse countries on earth. Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]High obesity rates?Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] I'm surprised you'd say that, Shinobi, because we've discussed this before and i completely shot that idea of yours down. Britain is not a 'mostly white' place. There are fewer black and hispanic people here, definately, and you'll certainly find more black and hispanic people in the states due to the border with mexico and the slave trade. But that doesn't make the UK a white nation. I even gave you a link last time from the world travel bureau which said the UK was one of the most diverse countries on earth. phillo99

Are you trying to post something?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] I'm surprised you'd say that, Shinobi, because we've discussed this before and i completely shot that idea of yours down. Britain is not a 'mostly white' place. There are fewer black and hispanic people here, definately, and you'll certainly find more black and hispanic people in the states due to the border with mexico and the slave trade. But that doesn't make the UK a white nation. I even gave you a link last time from the world travel bureau which said the UK was one of the most diverse countries on earth. Euroshinobi

[QUOTE="Vexx88"]Stupidity.phillo99

Irrational hatred against America is cool now, amirite?

Do some research communist troll. The USA is the best nation I have ever lived at. Before you call me a "typical boastful American", I'm actually Colombian. I'm proud of my birth country but the USA offers opportunity beyond any other nation I have witnessed. the US is basically a giant melting pot anyways

True, but the voting requirements in 1700's America weren't that different from those in Ancient Greece, so free might not be the best choice of a word.

phillo99

Heck, he even took it back and said he wasn't being serious. What's the problem? :?

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Incredible diversity and integration. There's really something for everyone. Remember, it's a big country.Blitz_Nemesis

So does every other country in the world, but the United States is by far the most diverse.

Do some research communist troll. The USA is the best nation I have ever lived at. Before you call me a "typical boastful American", I'm actually Colombian. I'm proud of my birth country but the USA offers opportunity beyond any other nation I have witnessed. the US is basically a giant melting pot anywayKamekazi_69

[QUOTE="phillo99"]

[QUOTE="Vexx88"]Stupidity.Vexx88

Irrational hatred against America is cool now, amirite?

I truly don't know too many people like that here. I think a lot of this is irrational hate, or just people belittling the accomplishments of this country.

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]Do some research communist troll. The USA is the best nation I have ever lived at. Before you call me a "typical boastful American", I'm actually Colombian. I'm proud of my birth country but the USA offers opportunity beyond any other nation I have witnessed. the US is basically a giant melting pot anywayVandalvideo

but i love basketball and football

Freedom of speech can be traced all the way back to ancient Rome. :? As for the right to bear arms; i dont think having the ability to own a gun makes a person any more 'free' to be honest.

Ninja-Hippo

If you call having money, freedom of speech then sure. One of the worst parts of the Roman republic was the powerful aristocracy. It's hard to differentiate the aristocracy of the Republic and the Imperium Romanum.

Also, having the right to bear arms is most definitely freedom in every sense. It shows that the public is in power, and not the government.

A lot of people here are like "America YEAH" Refuse to learn to another language bash other countries for being different and such. Its really that part I hate.Vexx88

I honestly haven't seen too much of that here, and I've been here since 2007.

We offer a helping hand to many people who need it.

Also, the T.V. dinner.

Mass fake food/ fast food.

Greedy Food Inspectors.

[QUOTE="jointed"]

See boy and girls...this is exactly how NOT to respond.VoodooGamer

Tell me, exactly, what is not true about this? The United States took the best from the Roman republic and combined it with a better, safer system of allowing the public freedoms whilst protecting those freedom, which no other country on the planet had done before. ;) While the United States was developing its government, Europe was composed of totalitarian regimes and empires, which were done away with after the example set by the United States. This isn't arrogance or pride, it's history.

It's not only arrogance...it's ignorance. The UK's democratic development started in the 1300s and slowly but surely developed throughout the centuries. The example set by the US didn't really affect us at all, our empire reached it's height long after the creation of the US. jointed

Yet, your democractic development didn't weaken but made stronger the conquest of the British Empire, and that is exactly what the British were--an empire. The United States laid the foundation for representative governments to come. This is covered in almost every textbook.

We are louder than most.Bloodbath_87

Added to the list:

-Overweight
-Rude
-Abnoxious
-Arrogant
-Ignorant
-Racism
-Sexism
-Too patriotic

American's did overcome those, did they?

:P

[QUOTE="jointed"]

It's not only arrogance...it's ignorance. The UK's democratic development started in the 1300s and slowly but surely developed throughout the centuries. The example set by the US didn't really affect us at all, our empire reached it's height long after the creation of the US. VoodooGamer

Yet, your democractic development didn't weaken but made stronger the conquest of the British Empire, and that is exactly what the British were--an empire. The United States laid the foundation for representative governments to come. This is covered in almost every textbook.

[QUOTE="jointed"]

It's not only arrogance...it's ignorance. The UK's democratic development started in the 1300s and slowly but surely developed throughout the centuries. The example set by the US didn't really affect us at all, our empire reached it's height long after the creation of the US. VoodooGamer

Yet, your democractic development didn't weaken but made stronger the conquest of the British Empire, and that is exactly what the British were--an empire. The United States laid the foundation for representative governments to come. This is covered in almost every textbook.

[QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"]We are louder than most.WushuFighter

Added to the list:

-Overweight
-Rude
-Abnoxious
-Arrogant
-Ignorant
-Racism
-Sexism
-Too patriotic

American's did overcome those, did they?

:P