What is your belief about jesus christ?

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#1 import_fighter1
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I believe he was just like every other messiah before him and after him all the way up to today. People today still make the same claims as Jesus did and they get thousands of followers for it. Jesus was not the first to claim the things he did. He just had the better stories.
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#2 Wolls
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IMO he proberly did exist the storys about him were proberly invented or exaggerated over time.

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#3 bean-with-bacon
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He probably didn't exist and if he did he was delusional about his divinity.
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#4 ScreaminPatriot
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I think that he did exist and for the most part everything we have heard about him is true.
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i only believe in raptor jesus:

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He was a BS-er

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#7 MrPraline
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Probably did exist and was a regular man, no more special than any of us.
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#8 ferrari2001
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Let's think it through logically. We know through historical proofs and historians that a popular man named Jesus of Nazareth did in fact exist. He was crucified, then the rest gets sketchy historically speaking.

Now we could say maybe he was just crazy. If he was crazy why did so many people follow him. He would have shown signs of being crazy and people would not have given up their lives to follow and believe in him.

Now we could say he was a liar. Why kind of person is a good enough liar to put on a 3 year ruse that ends in one of the most excruciating tortures, and deaths. would he have stood by his beliefs after all he had to go through.

So logically he was telling the truth, there is a small chance that one of the other things could have been a possibility but it's small.

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Let's think it through logically. We know through historical proofs and historians that a popular man named Jesus of Nazareth did in fact exist. He was crucified, then the rest gets sketchy historically speaking. No we could say maybe he was just crazy. If he was crazy why did so many people follow him. He would have shown signs of being crazy and people would not have given up their lives to follow and believe in him. Now we could say he was a liar. Why kind of person is a good enough liar to put on a 3 year ruse that ends in one of the most excruciating tortures, and deaths. would he have stood by his beliefs after all he had to go through. So logically he was telling the truth, there is a small chance that one of the other things could have been a possibility but it's small. ferrari2001
Why do so many people follow the current people calling themselves messiahs? It's all for the same reason. People are being told what they want to hear and it makes them feel better. Don't you think that David Koresh was crazy? He had quite a few followers. Don't you think that polygamist was crazy that was sent to prison a few years back? He had thousands of followers. People will believe anything if it's what they want to hear and makes them feel better. It's just the way some human minds are.

Also, people did think he was crazy, that's why he was crucified.

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Well there has been historic evidence of him existing, the fact the dating system uses BC and AD should say something about that :P. Whether he did what they say he did or didn't is another thing, I don't think someone would have an entire book written about them if they were BSing everything they did.

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#11 Funky_Llama
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If he was crazy why did so many people follow him? He would have shown signs of being crazy

ferrari2001

Oh, you mean like a messiah complex? >_>

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Let's think it through logically. We know through historical proofs and historians that a popular man named Jesus of Nazareth did in fact exist. He was crucified, then the rest gets sketchy historically speaking.

Now we could say maybe he was just crazy. If he was crazy why did so many people follow him. He would have shown signs of being crazy and people would not have given up their lives to follow and believe in him.

Now we could say he was a liar. Why kind of person is a good enough liar to put on a 3 year ruse that ends in one of the most excruciating tortures, and deaths. would he have stood by his beliefs after all he had to go through.

So logically he was telling the truth, there is a small chance that one of the other things could have been a possibility but it's small.

ferrari2001

On the other hand, it logically follows from the truth of Jesus that Islam must be false. So why are there so many Muslims?

Indeed, if Christianity is truth, everything else is false. So the beliefs of the majority of the worldare false?

If so, delete Jesus and insert the name of a similar leader of any other religion and apply your thought process from above.

Which illustrates that the logic you articulated is paperthin and flimsy.

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#13 stepnkev
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I believe Jesus Christ was the Son of God and died for us. I believe in and follow His teachings.

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#14 JML897
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If he was crazy why did so many people follow him.

ferrari2001

Have you never heard of Jim Jones? David Koresh? Charles Manson?

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#15 -Sun_Tzu-
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I believe that he was a cool, slightly hyperbolic, Jewish dude who went out of his way to help people in need.

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#16 cd_rom
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I believe that he did in fact exist. I believe that he was a very bright philosopher that had very radical ideas at the time. I do not believe he was divine. Does that make his ideas wrong? No. People could still learn from him. On a side note, did Jesus ever claim he was the Son of God or claim to any form of divinity? I don't recall he ever did and I'm thinking these titles were given to him long after his death. I know he said would say God was his father, but he was basically saying God is everyone's father.
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#18 tester962
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I believe he existed at some point. I do not believe he was the son of god. I dont follow the bible so I dont really have anymore I can say.
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#19 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

Let's think it through logically. We know through historical proofs and historians that a popular man named Jesus of Nazareth did in fact exist. He was crucified, then the rest gets sketchy historically speaking.

Now we could say maybe he was just crazy. If he was crazy why did so many people follow him. He would have shown signs of being crazy and people would not have given up their lives to follow and believe in him.

Now we could say he was a liar. Why kind of person is a good enough liar to put on a 3 year ruse that ends in one of the most excruciating tortures, and deaths. would he have stood by his beliefs after all he had to go through.

So logically he was telling the truth, there is a small chance that one of the other things could have been a possibility but it's small.

Anonymous_2

So why do you not believe in Prophet muhammad??

I believe he existed. I don't believe the voices he heard were a message from God, however.
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#20 skelebull3000
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I believe that the people around Jesus Christ lied about him.

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#21 Darth-Caedus
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He existed but was just a man like any other.
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#22 skelebull3000
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Well there has been historic evidence of him existing, the fact the dating system uses BC and AD should say something about that :P. Whether he did what they say he did or didn't is another thing, I don't think someone would have an entire book written about them if they were BSing everything they did.

Espada12

So, do you believe that the king and queens of old were descendant of god? Do you believe that the pharaohs were also gods in the flesh of a human? I mean, they had monuments made for them.

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I believe he is a very smart individual that manipulated people to believe and follow him.
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He was basically Jewish Awesome-Sauce.
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#25 clayron
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I believe he is a very smart individual that manipulated people to believe and follow him. Maqda7
Too bad all he got from it was 3 nails, and a spear.
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Indifferent to him.
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#27 Second_Rook
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A poll? Really?

Anyway I believe he was a great man and example which people can choose to follow or not follow. He saw the divinity and the connection to the universe in everybody and preached the value of humility as a means of salvation. Probably the wisest man to ever walk the earth.

Historically, his martyrdom gave birth to the Catholic church which shaped modern western morals and culture.

I can't imagine a world without Jesus.

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I'm guessing he really existed, and he probably did a bunch of nice things for people, but legends became exaggerated and made him sound like the messiah or whatever.

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Let's think it through logically. We know through historical proofs and historians that a popular man named Jesus of Nazareth did in fact exist. He was crucified, then the rest gets sketchy historically speaking.

Now we could say maybe he was just crazy. If he was crazy why did so many people follow him. He would have shown signs of being crazy and people would not have given up their lives to follow and believe in him.

Now we could say he was a liar. Why kind of person is a good enough liar to put on a 3 year ruse that ends in one of the most excruciating tortures, and deaths. would he have stood by his beliefs after all he had to go through.

So logically he was telling the truth, there is a small chance that one of the other things could have been a possibility but it's small.

ferrari2001

There are many crazy people in the world even today that begin their own cults and attract followers to them who believe completely in what their leader preaches. As time goes on some of these cults may become stronger due to their original followers stretching of the truth or outright lying due to them manipulating themselves into believing it. Some of these leaders have even had a cult for years and, when the police came knocking on their door and their followers door, they ended up burning themselves and their followers to death.

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IMO he proberly did exist the storys about him were proberly invented or exaggerated over time.

Wolls

Agreed, people were biased back then when they told the story of Jesus Christ to their grandchildrens.

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Jesus is the Son of the Living God, second person in the Trinity, and Lord over all of creation. He humbled himself by leaving his throne and taking on the role of a servant, lived, bled, died for my sins, resurrected from the dead, and is now seated in power at the right hand of God. He is my Savior and my Lord. Rawr.
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Well there has been historic evidence of him existing, the fact the dating system uses BC and AD should say something about that :P. Whether he did what they say he did or didn't is another thing, I don't think someone would have an entire book written about them if they were BSing everything they did.

skelebull3000

So, do you believe that the king and queens of old were descendant of god? Do you believe that the pharaohs were also gods in the flesh of a human? I mean, they had monuments made for them.

The phaoraohs and kings weren't BSing thier feats . They exaggerated thier status as a human in the case of pharoahs and thier actions spoke as loud as thier words. I don't know which culture viewed kings as gods, maybe you could fill me in?

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#33 natedrummer95
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Oh, how convenient, I just blogged about this:http://www.gamespot.com/users/natedrummer95/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25719866&tag=all-about;blog1

Go Holy Spirit!!

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I believe he might have existed, I also consider that he could be entirely made up. I'm about as in-the-middle as someone could be.
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#36 MrPraline
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was just refering to ferrari's argument for the reason he thinks jesus is true becasue muhammad cant be false if you use that argument and thus christianity cannot be true.

Anonymous_2

Yeah, sorry about that. I kind of jumped in with my own opinion.

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[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Well there has been historic evidence of him existing, the fact the dating system uses BC and AD should say something about that :P. Whether he did what they say he did or didn't is another thing, I don't think someone would have an entire book written about them if they were BSing everything they did.

Espada12

So, do you believe that the king and queens of old were descendant of god? Do you believe that the pharaohs were also gods in the flesh of a human? I mean, they had monuments made for them.

The phaoraohs and kings weren't BSing thier feats . They exaggerated thier status as a human in the case of pharoahs and thier actions spoke as loud as thier words. I don't know which culture viewed kings as gods, maybe you could fill me in?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_cult Here's a list of cultures.

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#42 ArmoredCore55
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Jesus is real. He died for our sins, and returned in three days.
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#43 broken_bass_bin
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I believe that he existed, but not that he was the son of God

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#44 Furi-Kun
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Who? I think I made my point.

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#45 Jfisch93
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He's the reason for all the hate on Jews and Gays.

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#46 Teenaged
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I dont choose any of the poll options.

To me, he most probably existed, he was as delusional as any founder of a certain religion -that doesnt mean he set out to start a religion; pretty much like any other at that time he imagined a new idea for the supernatural (I wouldnt consider thinking he was the messiah as a disorder if you consider the time he lived) and preached his own ideas about morals etc -, and again he was as truthful as any religion founder.

Of course I dont rule out the possibility that he was the messiah but that what we have in the Bible is a heavily distorted version of what he taught.

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What about none of the above? I believe he didn't claim to be the son of God, he was just a wise, inspirational guy killed by the Romans. The Church later blew the figure of Jesus Christ up into the "Son of God" and that's where the misinformation started
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#48 Espada12
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_cult Here's a list of cultures.

skelebull3000

Ah ok, I see.

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#49 YoJim8obaJoe
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His main message wasnt about being the son of god he said that was everyones birthright,his message was that no matter how good its intentions at the start all religions will eventually become corrupt and self serving and that god hears your prayers everywere and that churchs have no importance.He hoped to change the jewish faith and ended up being used to form new churchs with new ideas of corruption and self service twisting the ideals he taught

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#50 wildjango64
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I belive that he was one of the mightiest messengers of Allah, but the thing about being god's don is total ****