Dude we built the ******* A-Bomb
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You were almost beaten to it by the Nazi's, no actually all post-war research has shown that the Nazi threat of getting an A-bomb was way overblown. they weren't even close. I'm pretty sure they even lacked any uranium enriching program.[QUOTE="spawnassasin"]
Dude we built the ******* A-Bomb
clyde46
[QUOTE="markop2003"] That's because it was peacekeeping not a war, it's not hard to reach a stalemate in the IRAA's circumstancesRiseAgainst12No matter what way you look at it it happened.. the IRA stalemated the British army so it was a military achievement non the less. And sorry but since when did peacekeeping involve reprisal policies? The IRA never stalemated anyone the fact is to this day the british have never treated the irish conflict as a war ,it was always about containment .Terrorists dont fight wars persay they merely murder innocent people and then run of and hide like the cowards they are.
The IRA never stalemated anyone the fact is to this day the british have never treated the irish conflict as a war EmpCom
Which is very condescending of the British to lable The Troubles as "Just a bit of trouble"... I wouldn't call thousands dead "Trouble"
[QUOTE="EmpCom"]The IRA never stalemated anyone the fact is to this day the british have never treated the irish conflict as a war -Misanthropic-
Which is very condescending of the British to lable The Troubles as "Just a bit of trouble"... I wouldn't call thousands dead "Trouble"
Why would it be condecending did the british send jets and warships to ireland did they bomb dublin with cruise missiles etc noYou were almost beaten to it by the Nazi's,[QUOTE="spawnassasin"]
Dude we built the ******* A-Bomb
clyde46
yeah but we built it first and guess what we used it not once but TWICE in one week lets see you top that8)
Probably Canada's reputation in World War 1 and to some extent World War 2. The Germans used the term Storm Troopers specifically to refer to the Canadians. They were considered to be the most dangerous troops on the field, and were used as the spear head of many of the most important battles.
[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"][QUOTE="markop2003"] That's because it was peacekeeping not a war, it's not hard to reach a stalemate in the IRAA's circumstancesEmpComNo matter what way you look at it it happened.. the IRA stalemated the British army so it was a military achievement non the less. And sorry but since when did peacekeeping involve reprisal policies? The IRA never stalemated anyone the fact is to this day the british have never treated the irish conflict as a war ,it was always about containment .Terrorists dont fight wars persay they merely murder innocent people and then run of and hide like the cowards they are. The IRA weren't seen as a terrorist organisation during the War of independence (1919-1921), in fact the conflict was known as the Anglo-Irish war.
[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"] No matter what way you look at it it happened.. the IRA stalemated the British army so it was a military achievement non the less. And sorry but since when did peacekeeping involve reprisal policies? RiseAgainst12The IRA never stalemated anyone the fact is to this day the british have never treated the irish conflict as a war ,it was always about containment .Terrorists dont fight wars persay they merely murder innocent people and then run of and hide like the cowards they are. The IRA weren't seen as a terrorist organisation during the War of independence (1919-1921), in fact the conflict was known as the Anglo-Irish war. thats why I was getting confused. I thought you were on about the modern IRA.
[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"][QUOTE="EmpCom"] The IRA never stalemated anyone the fact is to this day the british have never treated the irish conflict as a war ,it was always about containment .Terrorists dont fight wars persay they merely murder innocent people and then run of and hide like the cowards they are.clyde46The IRA weren't seen as a terrorist organisation during the War of independence (1919-1921), in fact the conflict was known as the Anglo-Irish war. thats why I was getting confused. I thought you were on about the modern IRA. Yeah me too
Bravo Two Zero.clembo1990
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Mission failed, 3 guys died, 4 were taken prisoner and one stumbled off to Syria and you think that's a great achievement? I suppose it meant that those two knuckledraggers McNab and Ryan could churn out trashy novels but overall, it was a bit of a distaster, wasn't it?
Then again, the Brits seem to enjoy revelling in military disasters. When you guys do screw up, you do screw up royally, I'll give you that.
Dunkirk, Burma, Hong Kong, Arnhem, Singapore, Balaclava and the charge of the Light Brigade, Isandlwana, Khartoum, Kabul retreat.
[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"] The IRA weren't seen as a terrorist organisation during the War of independence (1919-1921), in fact the conflict was known as the Anglo-Irish war.EmpComthats why I was getting confused. I thought you were on about the modern IRA. Yeah me too No i was making double reference to both the War of independence and The Troubles. because i live in Belfast it is very hard for me to just say "oh, it was a bit of trouble. nothing more than a quick conflict." so yea The IRA stalemated the british in 1921 and then the PIRA stalemated them in 1998.
You were almost beaten to it by the Nazi's,[QUOTE="clyde46"]
[QUOTE="spawnassasin"]
Dude we built the ******* A-Bomb
spawnassasin
yeah but we built it first and guess what we used it not once but TWICE in one week lets see you top that8)
Nuclear weaponry is actually an Austrian invention if I'm not mistaken. America, Britain, and Canada jointly built the first A-Bomb, however.
[QUOTE="clembo1990"] Bravo Two Zero.bogaty
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Mission failed, 3 guys died, 4 were taken prisoner and one stumbled off to Syria and you think that's a great achievement? I suppose it meant that those two knuckledraggers McNab and Ryan could churn out trashy novels but overall, it was a bit of a distaster, wasn't it?
Then again, the Brits seem to enjoy revelling in military disasters. When you guys do screw up, you do screw up royally, I'll give you that.
Dunkirk, Burma, Hong Kong, Arnhem, Singapore, Balaclava and the charge of the Light Brigade, Isandlwana, Khartoum, Kabul retreat.
Well when you have such a great militay history there will always be a proportion that failed[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="clyde46"] thats why I was getting confused. I thought you were on about the modern IRA.RiseAgainst12Yeah me too No i was making double reference to both the War of independence and The Troubles. because i live in Belfast it is very hard for me to just say "oh, it was a bit of trouble. nothing more than a quick conflict." so yea The IRA stalemated the british in 1921 and then the PIRA stalemated them in 1998. Sorry but the 1998 stalemate never happened
I was watching a documentary yesterday "secrets of WW2" that highlighted me to the fact that the Americans were quite far from making the Atomic bomb as they were low on Uranium to use. but when the Nazi's surrendered a German sub was found to be carrying enriched uranium from japan to germany.. the americans seized this and so rapidly sped up there process of creating the bomb. i wish i remembered it all in more detail, even the name of the sub :P but i was drifting in and out of it.Nuclear weaponry is actually an Austrian invention if I'm not mistaken. America, Britain, and Canada jointly built the first A-Bomb, however.
RearNakedChoke
[QUOTE="bogaty"][QUOTE="clembo1990"] Bravo Two Zero.EmpCom
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Mission failed, 3 guys died, 4 were taken prisoner and one stumbled off to Syria and you think that's a great achievement? I suppose it meant that those two knuckledraggers McNab and Ryan could churn out trashy novels but overall, it was a bit of a distaster, wasn't it?
Then again, the Brits seem to enjoy revelling in military disasters. When you guys do screw up, you do screw up royally, I'll give you that.
Dunkirk, Burma, Hong Kong, Arnhem, Singapore, Balaclava and the charge of the Light Brigade, Isandlwana, Khartoum, Kabul retreat.
Well when you have such a great militay history there will always be a proportion that failedYes, but there does seem to be an element of Murphy's Law taken to the extreme when you look at Brit disasters. It's like "everything that can go wrong, will go wrong. AND you'll get cancer."
Reading the history of Market Garden and the litany of errors of judgement, poor planning, arrogance, and just plain bad luck and it's amazing any of the Allies made it out of Arnhem at all.
[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"][QUOTE="EmpCom"] Yeah me tooEmpComNo i was making double reference to both the War of independence and The Troubles. because i live in Belfast it is very hard for me to just say "oh, it was a bit of trouble. nothing more than a quick conflict." so yea The IRA stalemated the british in 1921 and then the PIRA stalemated them in 1998. Sorry but the 1998 stalemate never happened The Good Friday Agreement would disagree. If they weren't stalemated they would never have to go into negotiations with the PIRA.
You were almost beaten to it by the Nazi's, no actually all post-war research has shown that the Nazi threat of getting an A-bomb was way overblown. they weren't even close. I'm pretty sure they even lacked any uranium enriching program.[QUOTE="clyde46"]
[QUOTE="spawnassasin"]
Dude we built the ******* A-Bomb
danwallacefan
yeah the allies did alot to hinder teh germans advance, mainly by destroying key facilities through bombings. Japan however was actually pretty close, they could have had it quite some time before we did. Their main guy( forgot his name) did alot for us in the thirties( he was the first to do reasearch for it, his facitlity was our main research base for it) But he went over to japan to help them out, he was getting close but as the war turned south the Imperial command basically cut him off and put his much needed resources to other places.
[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"] No i was making double reference to both the War of independence and The Troubles. because i live in Belfast it is very hard for me to just say "oh, it was a bit of trouble. nothing more than a quick conflict." so yea The IRA stalemated the british in 1921 and then the PIRA stalemated them in 1998.RiseAgainst12Sorry but the 1998 stalemate never happened The Good Friday Agreement would disagree. If they weren't stalemated they would never have to go into negotiations with the PIRA. the simple truth is the Ira knew it could never win and the british never had the nerve to stop holding back there military . The fact remains the Ira called it a war pity the british never gave it one .
[QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"][QUOTE="EmpCom"]The IRA never stalemated anyone the fact is to this day the british have never treated the irish conflict as a war EmpCom
Which is very condescending of the British to lable The Troubles as "Just a bit of trouble"... I wouldn't call thousands dead "Trouble"
Why would it be condecending did the british send jets and warships to ireland did they bomb dublin with cruise missiles etc noNo, but they did shoot innocents dead :|
[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"][QUOTE="EmpCom"] Sorry but the 1998 stalemate never happened EmpComThe Good Friday Agreement would disagree. If they weren't stalemated they would never have to go into negotiations with the PIRA. the simple truth is the Ira knew it could never win and the british never had the nerve to stop holding back there military . The fact remains the Ira called it a war pity the british never gave it one . I never said that the PIRA or any IRA for that matter thought they would win a war against the British.. but they did Stalemate them. Also you keep making reference to jets, warships etc. what use would they be to the British? the PIRA used Guerilla warfare.. so to use that kind of military hardware would simply kill civillians, which in turn would strengthen support for the PIRA and innevitably lead to British defeat.
[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]
Which is very condescending of the British to lable The Troubles as "Just a bit of trouble"... I wouldn't call thousands dead "Trouble"
Why would it be condecending did the british send jets and warships to ireland did they bomb dublin with cruise missiles etc noNo, but they did shoot innocents dead :|
And since when have innocent people not died in conflicts at least the british didnt see civilians as legitimate targets unlike the ira[QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"][QUOTE="EmpCom"] Why would it be condecending did the british send jets and warships to ireland did they bomb dublin with cruise missiles etc no EmpCom
No, but they did shoot innocents dead :|
And since when have innocent people not died in conflicts at least the british didnt see civilians as legitimate targets unlike the ira Neither did the Provisional IRA...[QUOTE="clembo1990"] Bravo Two Zero.bogaty
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Mission failed, 3 guys died, 4 were taken prisoner and one stumbled off to Syria and you think that's a great achievement? I suppose it meant that those two knuckledraggers McNab and Ryan could churn out trashy novels but overall, it was a bit of a distaster, wasn't it?
Then again, the Brits seem to enjoy revelling in military disasters. When you guys do screw up, you do screw up royally, I'll give you that.
Dunkirk, Burma, Hong Kong, Arnhem, Singapore, Balaclava and the charge of the Light Brigade, Isandlwana, Khartoum, Kabul retreat.
I seem to have confused interesting story of survival with actual victory :P well the fact they survived was amazing. It's like how the Vietkong survived napalm so they won the war with the US.[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"] The Good Friday Agreement would disagree. If they weren't stalemated they would never have to go into negotiations with the PIRA.RiseAgainst12the simple truth is the Ira knew it could never win and the british never had the nerve to stop holding back there military . The fact remains the Ira called it a war pity the british never gave it one . I never said that the PIRA or any IRA for that matter thought they would win a war against the British.. but they did Stalemate them. Also you keep making reference to jets, warships etc. what use would they be to the British? the PIRA used Guerilla warfare.. so to use that kind of military hardware would simply kill civillians, which in turn would strengthen support for the PIRA and innevitably lead to British defeat. Sorry but rally you can believe that stalemate occured if thats what u choose,for me im disgusted that our government puts more effort into conflicts on the other side of the world than it ever done against the IRA. Fact is the IRA should have been hunted down like the scum they were and are.
[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]And since when have innocent people not died in conflicts at least the british didnt see civilians as legitimate targets unlike the ira Neither did the Provisional IRA... Bloody Friday is remembered both for the scale of the casualties inflicted by the IRA bombs and the televised scenes of horror, which included the sight of rescue workers collecting pieces of human flesh in plastic bags. Nine people were killed when the IRA detonated 20 devices in just over an hour in different parts of Belfast, generating panic throughout the city. Now say that againNo, but they did shoot innocents dead :|
RiseAgainst12
[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"][QUOTE="EmpCom"] the simple truth is the Ira knew it could never win and the british never had the nerve to stop holding back there military . The fact remains the Ira called it a war pity the british never gave it one .EmpComI never said that the PIRA or any IRA for that matter thought they would win a war against the British.. but they did Stalemate them. Also you keep making reference to jets, warships etc. what use would they be to the British? the PIRA used Guerilla warfare.. so to use that kind of military hardware would simply kill civillians, which in turn would strengthen support for the PIRA and innevitably lead to British defeat. Sorry but rally you can believe that stalemate occured if thats what u choose,for me im disgusted that our government puts more effort into conflicts on the other side of the world than it ever done against the IRA. Fact is the IRA should have been hunted down like the scum they were and are. Did you even read my post? or did you just qoute it for effect? i outlined why they didnt use jets, warships etc. They done all they could for the situation. Also read about the History of Ireland and you will see that the State of Northern Ireland was set up undemocratically. So they are hardly scum for standing up for the rights of the Irish people.
Neither did the Provisional IRA... Bloody Friday is remembered both for the scale of the casualties inflicted by the IRA bombs and the televised scenes of horror, which included the sight of rescue workers collecting pieces of human flesh in plastic bags. Nine people were killed when the IRA detonated 20 devices in just over an hour in different parts of Belfast, generating panic throughout the city. Now say that again How about you read up on the events of Bloody Friday then comment. Because you would find out that the PIRA had given warnings about the bombs.[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"][QUOTE="EmpCom"] And since when have innocent people not died in conflicts at least the british didnt see civilians as legitimate targets unlike the iraEmpCom
Neither did the Provisional IRA...RiseAgainst12Bloody Friday is remembered both for the scale of the casualties inflicted by the IRA bombs and the televised scenes of horror, which included the sight of rescue workers collecting pieces of human flesh in plastic bags. Nine people were killed when the IRA detonated 20 devices in just over an hour in different parts of Belfast, generating panic throughout the city. Now say that again How about you read up on the events of Bloody Friday then comment. Because you would find out that the PIRA had given warnings about the bombs.Well thats alright then they were decent after all
[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"] I never said that the PIRA or any IRA for that matter thought they would win a war against the British.. but they did Stalemate them. Also you keep making reference to jets, warships etc. what use would they be to the British? the PIRA used Guerilla warfare.. so to use that kind of military hardware would simply kill civillians, which in turn would strengthen support for the PIRA and innevitably lead to British defeat.RiseAgainst12Sorry but rally you can believe that stalemate occured if thats what u choose,for me im disgusted that our government puts more effort into conflicts on the other side of the world than it ever done against the IRA. Fact is the IRA should have been hunted down like the scum they were and are. Did you even read my post? or did you just qoute it for effect? i outlined why they didnt use jets, warships etc. They done all they could for the situation. Also read about the History of Ireland and you will see that the State of Northern Ireland was set up undemocratically. So they are hardly scum for standing up for the rights of the Irish people. YES standing up for the rights of the irish people would that be the same irish people who dont want the north .Maybe your the one who needs to do some reading
[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"][QUOTE="EmpCom"] Bloody Friday is remembered both for the scale of the casualties inflicted by the IRA bombs and the televised scenes of horror, which included the sight of rescue workers collecting pieces of human flesh in plastic bags. Nine people were killed when the IRA detonated 20 devices in just over an hour in different parts of Belfast, generating panic throughout the city. Now say that againHow about you read up on the events of Bloody Friday then comment. Because you would find out that the PIRA had given warnings about the bombs.Well thats alright then they were decent after all oh wait, you have nothing else to say so you resort to acting like a child? Atleast have a bit of background knowledge before you comment.EmpCom
[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"][QUOTE="EmpCom"] Sorry but rally you can believe that stalemate occured if thats what u choose,for me im disgusted that our government puts more effort into conflicts on the other side of the world than it ever done against the IRA. Fact is the IRA should have been hunted down like the scum they were and are.EmpComDid you even read my post? or did you just qoute it for effect? i outlined why they didnt use jets, warships etc. They done all they could for the situation. Also read about the History of Ireland and you will see that the State of Northern Ireland was set up undemocratically. So they are hardly scum for standing up for the rights of the Irish people. YES standing up for the rights of the irish people would that be the same irish people who dont want the north .Maybe your the one who needs to do some reading Care to explain your point abit more?
:| You'd think you could stop taking drugs long enough to qualify, if you really wanted to be in the military.Making it to MEPS (Military Entrance Processing Station), going there twice, and found out I have to come back 6 months later to take my pee test over again.
gago-gago
Well thats alright then they were decent after all oh wait, you have nothing else to say so you resort to acting like a child? Atleast have a bit of background knowledge before you comment. You dare to call me childish when you when you are the one who tries to justify the planting of bombs and deaths of civilians as acceptable because they gave warnings.[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"] How about you read up on the events of Bloody Friday then comment. Because you would find out that the PIRA had given warnings about the bombs.RiseAgainst12
[QUOTE="gago-gago"]:| You'd think you could stop taking drugs long enough to qualify, if you really wanted to be in the military.Making it to MEPS (Military Entrance Processing Station), going there twice, and found out I have to come back 6 months later to take my pee test over again.
bt_the_great_78
I believe I wasn't drinking enough water and was probably eating too much sodium. They found high protein in my urine which indicate a possible problem with my kidneys, but it's pretty common for protein to be found in your urine, especially when you aren't drinking enough water and/or exercising prior to the test.
Drugs found in your urine is an instant permanent disqualification and you won't be able to enlist under fraudulent enlistment. My temporary disqualification is due a health problem, but I won't know if it's really a health problem or not until I take another pee test. No drugs here.
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