[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="l4dak47"]Bad as in He mistreats His "beloved" creations. l4dak47
By what objective, moral standard do you determine that He is mistreating them (doing them wrong)?
God bless,
Crushmaster. Nice edit. Also, there's no such thing as objective morals. What there are, however, are morals that just about most people can agree on. They include no slavery, not killing millions of people, not sending people to a place to suffer forever, and many immoral things, all of which your "god" has either done or approved of at some point or another. As I said, "good and bad" in the secular worldview is meaningless. Whatever benefits you, you will consider good.
To a lion, if you stood still that would be good, cuz he's hungry.
"Lions all agree, it's good for the prey not to run."
Are you gonna do what's good for Mr Lion or what's good for you?
Therein you have conflict of interest which creates unstable geopolitcal situations, genocide, etc.
Hitler was an atheist, to him killing off the enemies of Germany was morally "good."
It comes down to law of the jungle, whoever is strongest wins and gets to define good and bad.
On the other hand, when an omnipotent universal force defines "good" you can take that to the bank. You may say "bu bu lots of people die." So what, lots of people die no matter what.
Where atheism fails is it looks for control where it has none. It wants to define good and evil as some new age bullschit with nothing to back it up except "most people want it" where "most people" have about the same worth as a housepet whose morality is based on eating, schitting, sleeping and f*cking.
If that's the truth you follow in life then good luck.
I prefer a higher truth.
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