What Religion You Want it to Disappear

[QUOTE="MyNameisaMeme"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Only the ones that are not true...clembo1990

A cult is not judged by its followers, otherwise Mormonism is a cult. A cult is considered unorthodox, but that is not why it's considered a cult. You can find those three things in some religions--but then they're cults, not religions.

A cult is judged by how its members are recruited and treated, not by how many people follow it.

Theokhoth

[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="MyNameisaMeme"]So, are you saying all of the ones except yours?

mindstorm

[QUOTE="joesh89"]

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Look at his sig. Take a wild guess.

Theokhoth

i browse in firefox, and for some reason i cannot see sigs. not even my own.

I also browse in FireFox, and I can see every sig. It may be your GS settings.

oh man, anyone know how i fix it ? please :oops:

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="clembo1990"] How many were killed in the Taiping massacre? We can play hard ball.clembo1990

Leninism, Marxism and douchebaggery are secular. Christians, when they kill, typically do so in the name of God; you see, they don't like the idea that they're doing something God doesn't like, so they pretend that it's what God wants.

[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="MyNameisaMeme"]So, are you saying all of the ones except yours?mindstorm

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="joesh89"]

i browse in firefox, and for some reason i cannot see sigs. not even my own.

joesh89

I also browse in FireFox, and I can see every sig. It may be your GS settings.

oh man, anyone know how i fix it ? please :oops:

Go to preferences and look under site settings and forums and all that mess. One of them has an option that lets you see sigs.

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="Habatada"]

Christianism.

Islam.

Both of them killed billions. Christianism kill less today but is still a problem.. Islam is a huge problem.

clembo1990

All institutionalized religious hierarchies. Religion on the whole is fine... but once it starts becoming a business or public legal administration (in the sense of the Catholic church during the Middle Ages), then something has gone wrong.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

A cult is not judged by its followers, otherwise Mormonism is a cult. A cult is considered unorthodox, but that is not why it's considered a cult. You can find those three things in some religions--but then they're cults, not religions.

A cult is judged by how its members are recruited and treated, not by how many people follow it.

MyNameisaMeme

Then we agree: a cult is not judged based on the amount of members it has.

And Mormonism is only considered a cult by fundamentalist Christians; it isn't a real cult. There are plenty of Mormon cults, however.

Only the ones that are not true...mindstorm

And you think Christianity is the only true religion, thus you want every other religion to disappear. If this is true, you are very jaded

[QUOTE="joesh89"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I also browse in FireFox, and I can see every sig. It may be your GS settings.

Theokhoth

oh man, anyone know how i fix it ? please :oops:

Go to preferences and look under site settings and forums and all that mess. One of them has an option that lets you see sigs.

your a diamond. and now i can see it, may i complement your sig, its very nice. :)

As for the topic, none. It is not up to me, what people choose to believe.

But if Scientology counts, I'd go for that, because they are robbing ppl.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Only the ones that are not true...Dark-Sithious

And you think Christianity is the only true religion, thus you want every other religion to disappear. If this is true, you are very jaded

Islam first followed by Christianity. Christianity is not as dangerous nowadays, they reigned through terror in the middle ages, nowadays the most dangerous of the major religions is Islam.

Of course, if both of those would simply disappear I would be even happier.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Only the ones that are not true...Dark-Sithious

And you think Christianity is the only true religion, thus you want every other religion to disappear. If this is true, you are very jaded

He actually clarified his meaning in the last page, but good job presenting your totally not jaded opinions.

Why shouldn't a Christian think his religion is the true one? Why should an Islamic person think Islam is the only true one? It's kinda stupid to follow a belief and thinking it isn't true at the same time.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="joesh89"]

oh man, anyone know how i fix it ? please :oops:

joesh89

Go to preferences and look under site settings and forums and all that mess. One of them has an option that lets you see sigs.

your a diamond. and now i can see it, may i complement your sig, its very nice. :)

Thanks!:D

[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="MyNameisaMeme"]So, are you saying all of the ones except yours?

mindstorm

That makes you perhaps the most consistent Christian I've come across. I hope you don't mind me asking this, but how can you fully commit yourself to your faith with belief rather than certainty? I mean, if you have an ethical choice - not on the scale of Abraham over Isaac, but of a similar style - how do you weigh up the potential cons of if you are wrong in your belief against what you believe is God's will?

[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Far less than were killed by Hitler Stalin and the Khmar Rouge.

Theokhoth

Leninism, Marxism and douchebaggery are secular. Christians, when they kill, typically do so in the name of God; you see, they don't like the idea that they're doing something God doesn't like, so they pretend that it's what God wants.

[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Only the ones that are not true...Theokhoth

And you think Christianity is the only true religion, thus you want every other religion to disappear. If this is true, you are very jaded

He actually clarified his meaning in the last page, but good job presenting your totally not jaded opinions.

Why shouldn't a Christian think his religion is the true one? Why should an Islamic person think Islam is the only true one? It's kinda stupid to follow a belief and thinking it isn't true at the same time.

I didn't read that post.

I also wrote if this is true, I guess you missed that. But sure he could think his religion is the true one, but he can't know that for sure, and wanting the others to disappear because he thinks (which was presented as a semi question) it is the only true one, is unjust.

[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Only the ones that are not true...mindstorm

And you think Christianity is the only true religion, thus you want every other religion to disappear. If this is true, you are very jaded

Well, in that case, goody.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]

And you think Christianity is the only true religion, thus you want every other religion to disappear. If this is true, you are very jaded

Dark-Sithious

He actually clarified his meaning in the last page, but good job presenting your totally not jaded opinions.

Why shouldn't a Christian think his religion is the true one? Why should an Islamic person think Islam is the only true one? It's kinda stupid to follow a belief and thinking it isn't true at the same time.

I didn't read that post.

I also wrote if this is true, I guess you missed that. But sure he could think his religion is the true one, but he can't know that for sure, and wanting the others to disappear because he thinks (which was presented as a semi question) it is the only true one, is unjust.

His was an absolute statement, not an opinionated one; every religion that isn't true should disappear. He's a Christian because he thinks Christianity is true; logically he'd expect Christianity to be the religion left standing, but his statement leaves open the possibility that he is wrong as well.

Regardless of whether or not he can "know" that it is true, I still contend that it is not "jaded" to think that what you believe is true and is in fact very stupid to believe (and expect others to believe) that what you believe isn't true.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="clembo1990"] Depends what numbers you look at. Its futile anyway. Hitler Stalin and Potty had their own motives for killing people. Stalin was a totalitarian using leninism as a justification for his bullying. Polly was a marxist nut who identified everyone with glasses or who read books as bourgeois and had them killed. Hitler was a douche who thought the jews and marxists were out the destroy his German reich. But it's pretty damn clear that the deformed Christianity used in that particular rebellion were killing in the name of God (well him and the self proclaimed leader God - it's like Mormons but actually scary)clembo1990

Leninism, Marxism and douchebaggery are secular. Christians, when they kill, typically do so in the name of God; you see, they don't like the idea that they're doing something God doesn't like, so they pretend that it's what God wants.

Definitely.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] Actually I'm not joking. I'm including Christianity as well even though I believe it to be true. If it's not true then I do not want to follow it. Truth should be sought, not falsehood.jimmyjammer69

That makes you perhaps the most consistent Christian I've come across. I hope you don't mind me asking this, but how can you fully commit yourself to your faith with belief rather than certainty? I mean, if you have an ethical choice - not on the scale of Abraham over Isaac, but of a similar style - how do you weigh up the potential cons of if you are wrong in your belief against what you believe is God's will?

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Only the ones that are not true...Rocky32189

Mormonism because before my friend became Mormon he wasnt judgemental of everything people do and he didnt have a two year mission trip planned. Thats right Mormonism took my friend away.

Also Scientology because well there is just no way that one is right. Sure that isnt a real argument but I still stand by it.

I don't really want any religion banned. I just wish people kept their beliefs to themselves and that they didn't judge others by their spiritual status but by their characters and their actions. In other words I wish the role of religion diminished in comparison to today, when people will go crazy over some peoples beliefs (or lack of belief).

Islam, assuming the European Union multicultural police won't lock me up for saying that. That is the sort of influence political Islamic has over here, freedom of speech doesn't mean jack when you have theocracies in the United Nations demanding that their particular brand of religion be put above criticism.

I personally think humanity has a lot to gain from doing away with all dogmatic belief systems and just having secularism, but most of the religions aren't that dangerous. They aren't moving to countries they hate to protest in the streets about how evil they are and will be conquered by Islam.

Islam, because it already wants every other dogma off the face of the earth. It's a religion of peace in the same way that lions are harmless towards deer.

dracula_16

I don't really want any religion banned. I just wish people kept their beliefs to themselves and that they didn't judge others by their spiritual status but by their characters and their actions. In other words I wish the role of religion diminished in comparison to today, when people will go crazy over some peoples beliefs (or lack of belief).

Teenaged

All of them. Without religion the world would be so awesome. Actually, wait, if people thought logically then it would be awesome.zombiefruit

Actually I'm not joking. I'm including Christianity as well even though I believe it to be true. If it's not true then I do not want to follow it. Truth should be sought, not falsehood.mindstorm

That makes you perhaps the most consistent Christian I've come across. I hope you don't mind me asking this, but how can you fully commit yourself to your faith with belief rather than certainty? I mean, if you have an ethical choice - not on the scale of Abraham over Isaac, but of a similar style - how do you weigh up the potential cons of if you are wrong in your belief against what you believe is God's will?

Islam

Sure, christians may be less tolerant, but at least they dont kill in their religion's name (any more).

Thus far a whole lot of horrible stuff has been done in the 21st century alone in the name of Islam than anything else.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

That makes you perhaps the most consistent Christian I've come across. I hope you don't mind me asking this, but how can you fully commit yourself to your faith with belief rather than certainty? I mean, if you have an ethical choice - not on the scale of Abraham over Isaac, but of a similar style - how do you weigh up the potential cons of if you are wrong in your belief against what you believe is God's will?

jimmyjammer69

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]Christianity. It's definately annoying the internet a lot.clembo1990

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

I don't really want any religion banned. I just wish people kept their beliefs to themselves and that they didn't judge others by their spiritual status but by their characters and their actions. In other words I wish the role of religion diminished in comparison to today, when people will go crazy over some peoples beliefs (or lack of belief).

Omni-Wrath

The world would generally be better without any sort of religion so i'd vote all. For those who wan't to argue about the lives its saving and hope its bringing people look at the conflict it causes and the wars it has started.

I think people should be able to believe what they want but i don't think they should force it on other people and tell them if they don't believe what they believe they will go to hell or even take it to a higher extent and threaten to kill them and believe me it does happen in some countries. This world would just be way better off without religion, i mean we even use the bible in the court system.

I just find it extremely primitive and dumb that we have to promise on a book (Which i believe to be a fairytale sorry for you Christians yeah yeah i know where you think im going)

The world would generally be better without any sort of religion so i'd vote all. For those who wan't to argue about the lives its saving and hope its bringing people look at the conflict it causes and the wars it has started.

I think people should be able to believe what they want but i don't think they should force it on other people and tell them if they don't believe what they believe they will go to hell or even take it to a higher extent and threaten to kill them and believe me it does happen in some countries. This world would just be way better off without religion, i mean we even use the bible in the court system.XileLord

Religions themselves aren't bad but when people take the meaning and distort it to fit their needs, then it needs to go. What I mean is I want racist christians, jihad-loving muslims, etc to die out. but not the normal versions of the religion (I am christian myself)

[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Only the ones that are not true...mindstorm

And you think Christianity is the only true religion, thus you want every other religion to disappear. If this is true, you are very jaded

I don't want to get rid of all religion, as I think people should be able to believe what they wish. I don't even have a problem with them organizing their religion and building churches. My problem is when they try to bring their religion into the public and force it upon others through legislation, tax exemptions, and violence (to list a few). All government should be 100% secular, churches should have to pay taxes like any other business, and religious folks should stop killing those who do not agree with their beliefs.

That's my answer, and I firmly believe it is the right one. Religious people don't like their child being taught evolution? While I would advise against it, take your child out of the public school system and put them in a private religious school or teach them yourself if it bothers you so much. Seriously, religious people need to stop trying to push their beliefs on the rest of the world...that is what needs to disappear.

Religions themselves aren't bad but when people take the meaning and distort it to fit their needs, then it needs to go. What I mean is I want racist christians, jihad-loving muslims, etc to die out. but not the normal versions of the religion (I am christian myself)

darkIink

Define normal? Both the moderates and the fanatics read from the same book, who is to say which group has interpreted the religion wrong? The ones that are violent or intolerant? Who is the say they are not the true form of the religion?

People believe what they want to believe, if their religion advocates violence and hate they simply choose to ignore those parts. That of course becomes a problem when you push this book as being the true word of God; to be followed under pain of eternal punishment.

The moderates enable the extremists, measures in place to protect the moderates inevitable also protect the extremists. It is why we need to get past this mentality of someones beliefs automatically being entitled to respect if we would have any chance of tackling the extremists.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

I don't really want any religion banned. I just wish people kept their beliefs to themselves and that they didn't judge others by their spiritual status but by their characters and their actions. In other words I wish the role of religion diminished in comparison to today, when people will go crazy over some peoples beliefs (or lack of belief).

Omni-Wrath