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#51 TaoJeetKuneDo
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Execute everyone serving a life sentence.....AdamPA1006
there are always innocent people somewhere , you can't do that
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#52 -RocBoys9489-
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#53 KittenNipples
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You cant take a piece of crap and mold it into awesomness, it just comes out a slightly better piece of crap. Which is why I dont see the point in our prison system, its obviously not their to help, just to imprison, like the name implies, and its not like when a prisoner is released hes suddenly has the attitude of Barack Obama, no, their still the same person as when they went in, just slightly less aggro, but still inside a terrible person. We should just go back to the old way of punishing people and cut off a finger or an ear of sort.
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#54 Nick3306
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[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]Execute everyone serving a life sentence.....TaoJeetKuneDo
there are always innocent people somewhere , you can't do that

There would be regulations to pass. Like if you were caught on video committing the crime or have 2 or more witnesses you die. Seems fair to me.
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#55 cyborg9
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Just let like all the people who did murder back on the streets then like let new people in then execute those, then the people that you let out bring those back in then you'll have room then let the people who are just back in again come back out

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#56 worlock77
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Just let like all the people who did murder back on the streets then like let new people in then execute those, then the people that you let out bring those back in then you'll have room then let the people who are just back in again come back out

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Is it just me or did anyone else have trouble making sense of this?

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#57 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Is it just me or did anyone else have trouble making sense of this?

worlock77

Nope, you aren't alone in that.

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#58 Palantas
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Is it just me or did anyone else have trouble making sense of this?

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Nope, you aren't alone in that.

I think he's saying that we should release the people in prison, and then when the new people, no...wait, we're supposed to kill the people in prison, and then let the new people...I, umm...

I don't know either. :?

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#59 LegitGamer3212
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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]Damn OP you seriously hate black people don't you? I'm starting to notice that whenever there's a thinly veiled thread dealing with how much of a burden blacks are on US society, you're the OP. Just come out and say it; I HATE *******! It will feel better I promise!SapSacPrime
All he did was quote facts and your post attacks him because those facts speak badly for two races, why should we live in a world were we can't point out facts like this in the name of political correctness? and you probably shouldn't bait a modable response...

like he said i'm just stating facts. i never said i hated anyone. why do you make ignorant assumptions F1?

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#60 starfox15
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The US has "privatized" prison systems.

The second anything becomes big business, it also becomes more popular.

It's not going anywhere. The only feasible method of dealing with it is to vote for bills that lessen sentences or get rid of unnecessary ones. Get out there and vote people.

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#61 z4twenny
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[QUOTE="SkyWard20"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

I'd say it speaks more about the unevenness of the US legal system than it does about race. Blacks busted for drugs get prison. Whites busted for drugs get rehab.

worlock77

Sorry, but I doubt those people go to prison just because 'laws are racist' and white people just get a free pass.

Then why does crack cocaine (more likely to be used by blacks) carry harsher penalties than power cocaine (more likely to be used by whites)?

because its cheaper to make and is actually shown to be more addictive.

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#62 Xbot_720
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This is an easy question to answer. Start executing the most heinous murderers, rapists, and child molesters.

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#63 WILL_423
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[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

blacks and hispanics account for 75% of the prison population. Silverbond

Point?

Yeah seriously... what the hell is the point of that statistic!?!? Is that even true!?!?

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#64 majoras_wrath
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I believe that we should build Superjail! All our problems will be solved. (sorry, I just finished watching Adult Swim)
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I think any crime warranting more than 10 years should just be elevated to the death penalty and their remains should be used as cattle feed or soild enrichment for government sponsored farms. Keeping people in prison for more than 10 years is a waste of tax payer dollars. The longer a person is in prison, the less probable it is that they'll be able to live a normal and productive life when they get out. They should just be put down to save money and to spare them the torment of such a long sentence. Alternatively, any crime warranting more than 10 years in prison should just be punished by being deported to some island called "No Man's Land". The prisoner would be exiled there for life.

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#66 LikeHaterade
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1. decriminalize and legalize certain drugs (another debate for another topic) 2. put non-violent offenders to work for society in half-way houses 3. get rid of the 3-strike rule for 'victimless crimes'rawsavon

This

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#67 Adrianstalker
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I think any crime warranting more than 10 years should just be elevated to the death penalty. Keeping people in prison for more than 10 years is a waste of tax payer dollars. The longer a person is in prison, the less probable it is that they'll be able to live a normal and productive life when they get out. They should just be put down to save money and to spare them the torment of such a long sentence. Alternatively, any crime warranting more than 10 years in prison should just be punished by being deported to some island called "No Man's Land". The prisoner would be exiled there for life.

BluRayHiDef

That is an insane solution. Lots of financial crimes can get +10 years of sentence, and although financial crimes is pretty douchbaggery certainly doesn't deserve death or life isolation

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#68 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

I think any crime warranting more than 10 years should just be elevated to the death penalty. Keeping people in prison for more than 10 years is a waste of tax payer dollars. The longer a person is in prison, the less probable it is that they'll be able to live a normal and productive life when they get out. They should just be put down to save money and to spare them the torment of such a long sentence. Alternatively, any crime warranting more than 10 years in prison should just be punished by being deported to some island called "No Man's Land". The prisoner would be exiled there for life.

Adrianstalker

That is an insane solution. Lots of financial crimes can get +10 years of sentence, and although financial crimes is pretty douchbaggery certainly doesn't deserve death or life isolation

The bodies of those sentenced to death should be used for soil enrichment or as cattle feed on government sponsored farms.

[spoiler] Just joking. [/spoiler]

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[QUOTE="Adrianstalker"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

I think any crime warranting more than 10 years should just be elevated to the death penalty. Keeping people in prison for more than 10 years is a waste of tax payer dollars. The longer a person is in prison, the less probable it is that they'll be able to live a normal and productive life when they get out. They should just be put down to save money and to spare them the torment of such a long sentence. Alternatively, any crime warranting more than 10 years in prison should just be punished by being deported to some island called "No Man's Land". The prisoner would be exiled there for life.

BluRayHiDef

That is an insane solution. Lots of financial crimes can get +10 years of sentence, and although financial crimes is pretty douchbaggery certainly doesn't deserve death or life isolation

The bodies of those sentenced to death should be used for soil enrichment or as cattle feed on government sponsored farms.

Gladly no one actually listen to you

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#70 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Adrianstalker"]

That is an insane solution. Lots of financial crimes can get +10 years of sentence, and although financial crimes is pretty douchbaggery certainly doesn't deserve death or life isolation

Adrianstalker

The bodies of those sentenced to death should be used for soil enrichment or as cattle feed on government sponsored farms.

Gladly no one actually listen to you

I was just joking.

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#71 Pixel-Pirate
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Stop putting people in prison for absurdly long lengths just to make an example of them. Stop putting people in prison for victimless crimes Stop putting non-violent criminals in prison
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#73 With-Hatred
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For starters I would legalize soft drugs and release soft users.

Hard Users should be put in rehab, not prison.

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#74 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Adrianstalker"]

Gladly no one actually listen to you

Adrianstalker

I was just joking.

All of it? Or just the soil enrichmment and cattle feeding part?

Just the soil enrichment and cattle feed. You didn't find it to be funny? Don't you think it'd be hilarious if their bodies were actually ground-up and fed to cows or used as a soild additive. Oh, God. :lol:

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#75 ad1x2
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]There would be regulations to pass. Like if you were caught on video committing the crime or have 2 or more witnesses you die. Seems fair to me.Nick3306

The problem with that is if somebody really hates you they can always pay off two people to say they saw you commit said crime so you can die. It would almost be legalized murder as long as the people who lied on you aren't caught.

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#76 EntropyWins
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

I think any crime warranting more than 10 years should just be elevated to the death penalty. Keeping people in prison for more than 10 years is a waste of tax payer dollars. The longer a person is in prison, the less probable it is that they'll be able to live a normal and productive life when they get out. They should just be put down to save money and to spare them the torment of such a long sentence. Alternatively, any crime warranting more than 10 years in prison should just be punished by being deported to some island called "No Man's Land". The prisoner would be exiled there for life.

Adrianstalker

That is an insane solution. Lots of financial crimes can get +10 years of sentence, and although financial crimes is pretty douchbaggery certainly doesn't deserve death or life isolation

I think that is a great idea actually. i don't know why we are so against killing people. Life is not that sacred

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#77 ad1x2
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Legalizing marijuana won't have a huge dent because for the most part possession of marijuana will only get you a fine and a misdemeanor conviction on your record. It's the ones who were caught selling, manufacturing, distributing, or trafficking that really get hosed. A lot of other minor crimes end up resulting in little more than probation. You're more likely to spend time behind bars for a DUI than for most other non-violent crimes. The easiest way to deal with the overcrowded prisons outside of just not sending people to jail anymore is to simply build more. But that costs money in construction and employment. Killing anybody on a life sentence would probably be challenged since that person was given one sentence and they want to make it harsher just for the sake of clearing space. People on OT aren't really going to be able to come up with the best solution, so all we can do is guess and speculate.

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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]1. decriminalize and legalize certain drugs (another debate for another topic) 2. put non-violent offenders to work for society in half-way houses 3. get rid of the 3-strike rule for 'victimless crimes'

Pretty much, actually try "rehabilitating" instead of just using the word when they don't really do anything.
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#79 Conservative-g
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Just kill them all, they had their chance at life and they failed.
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#80 BluRayHiDef
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Just kill them all, they had their chance at life and they failed.Conservative-g

I love the simplicity and frankness of this post. We need more people like you.

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#81 LOXO7
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More taxes to build more jails. Don't reduce funding on military.
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#82 bigdcstile
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

blacks and hispanics account for 75% of the prison population. WILL_423

Point?

Yeah seriously... what the hell is the point of that statistic!?!? Is that even true!?!?

Close but no cigar. It's actually kind of funny the way people break it down in an 'us versus them' kind of mindset considering whites make up around 57% of the prison population, not a meager 25% that he'd suggest. And statistics like this say absolutely nothing about causality considering you'd have to factor in the poverty rates and the breakdown of offenses. It's like me making a thread about the hardships of owning a dog and then pointing out that pitbulls make up an majority of maulings. It adds absolutely nothing and just seems like awkward fluff.
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[QUOTE="WILL_423"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Point?

bigdcstile

Yeah seriously... what the hell is the point of that statistic!?!? Is that even true!?!?

Close but no cigar. It's actually kind of funny the way people break it down in an 'us versus them' kind of mindset considering whites make up around 57% of the prison population, not a meager 25% that he'd suggest. And statistics like this say absolutely nothing about causality considering you'd have to factor in the poverty rates and the breakdown of offenses. It's like me making a thread about the hardships of owning a dog and then pointing out that pitbulls make up an majority of maulings. It adds absolutely nothing and just seems like awkward fluff.

Considering 64.7% of people in the U.S. are white, 16% are Hispanic, 12.9% are black, and 4.6% are Asian. Anything above the U.S. population percentages in prison is a terrible stat.

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#84 bigdcstile
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[QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="WILL_423"]

Yeah seriously... what the hell is the point of that statistic!?!? Is that even true!?!?

LOXO7

Close but no cigar. It's actually kind of funny the way people break it down in an 'us versus them' kind of mindset considering whites make up around 57% of the prison population, not a meager 25% that he'd suggest. And statistics like this say absolutely nothing about causality considering you'd have to factor in the poverty rates and the breakdown of offenses. It's like me making a thread about the hardships of owning a dog and then pointing out that pitbulls make up an majority of maulings. It adds absolutely nothing and just seems like awkward fluff.

Considering 64.7% of people in the U.S. are white, 16% are Hispanic, 12.9% are black, and 4.6% are Asian. Anything above the U.S. population percentages in prison is a terrible stat.

Not saying otherwise but, again, to eyeball these stats and then not take into account anything else pertaining to living situation and crimes committed is also 'terrible'.
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#85 LOXO7
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I don't see how poverty has anything to do with the people in prison. ?
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#86 bigdcstile
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I don't see how poverty has anything to do with the people in prison. ?LOXO7
I don't see how it doesn't considering the overwhelming majority of people that encounter the criminal justice system are indeed poor.
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#87 dracos9000
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Execute all prisoners serving a life sentence or just eliminate the life sentence all together.

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#88 JuggaloRandall
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Instead of putting the child molesters in a cell, put them out on the yard with a big red X on their backs and have the guards look away for a while.
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Death Race!
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#91 bloodcord
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Maybe they have to many law's? any one ever think about that?

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#92 fueled-system
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We actually use some of our prison money for rehabilitation so those who leave it do not go back into it again.

Barley any money goes into rehab for prisoners which is pathetic...

Oh and umm make pot legal that will cut out a good portion

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We remove the source of the overfilled prisons and end the problem.

That source? government and its tyrannical laws.

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Maybe they have to many law's? any one ever think about that?

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nah we just need to make braking the law illegal, then people will stop doing it.
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#95 surrealnumber5
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more victimless laws with extended sentencing and cruel treatment of prisoners. at some point people will stop doing what i do not like and behavioral conditioning will have worked, we just need to push harder, we cannot give up the good fight now.
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#96 k2theswiss
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kill every person that is in jail for more then 10 years...

if your not ready to enter public after 10 years of jail then u pretty much never be ready...

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#97 branketra
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The problem isn't so much the people being incarcerated as it is the people setting the laws against them. Check who sets these laws up, give an ultimatum to "fix this problem or lose their jobs." If they fail, give someone else the job . Wash, rinse, repeat, until it gets done.
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#98 Easports48
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Do this. If you are in Prison you are going to Iraq,etc,etc,etc. The women also. That will take care of overcrowded prisons.
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Prison should be reserved exclusively for violent crimes against other people and for those who are habitual offenders. Sending some dude to jail for 20 years because he cheated on his taxes by defrauding the government is patently stupid.

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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="bigdcstile"] Close but no cigar. It's actually kind of funny the way people break it down in an 'us versus them' kind of mindset considering whites make up around 57% of the prison population, not a meager 25% that he'd suggest. And statistics like this say absolutely nothing about causality considering you'd have to factor in the poverty rates and the breakdown of offenses. It's like me making a thread about the hardships of owning a dog and then pointing out that pitbulls make up an majority of maulings. It adds absolutely nothing and just seems like awkward fluff.bigdcstile

Considering 64.7% of people in the U.S. are white, 16% are Hispanic, 12.9% are black, and 4.6% are Asian. Anything above the U.S. population percentages in prison is a terrible stat.

Not saying otherwise but, again, to eyeball these stats and then not take into account anything else pertaining to living situation and crimes committed is also 'terrible'.

I think people are missing the fact of how many blacks and hispanics are below the poverty line, where the majority of crime is committed at..