What was Before the Big Bang? Will we ever know?

[QUOTE="Bill900"]Before the Big Bang there was Omni Slash!-insertion-

fuk yeah :)

He probably created god AND Chuck Norris

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[QUOTE="Bill900"]Before the Big Bang there was Omni Slash!Bill900

fuk yeah :)

He probably created god AND Chuck Norris

i doubt he created Chuck Norris. come on now. he's always been.

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[QUOTE="Bill900"]Before the Big Bang there was Omni Slash!-insertion-

fuk yeah :)

He probably created god AND Chuck Norris

i doubt he created Chuck Norris. come on now. he's always been.

hmmm... good point, maybe he created raptor jesus instead.

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[QUOTE="Bill900"]Before the Big Bang there was Omni Slash!Bill900

fuk yeah :)

He probably created god AND Chuck Norris

i doubt he created Chuck Norris. come on now. he's always been.

hmmm... good point, maybe he created raptor jesus instead.

that's fact.

If we could time travel, people from the future would have come back already... Which is why I don't believe in fate.

MountainDew77

Not necessarily. Certain theories of time travel don't allow for travel further back than the moment the time machine was turned on. Which means the first time travellers won't turn up until the first time machine is turned on.

And if this isnt the case, we still couldnt travel back further than the big bang to watch it because time (and all other dimensions) break down at that point

Time is inherently related to space. This can be physically observed and measured. It is the fourth easily discernable dimension. Thus there was nothing before the big bang because time was conceived with the big bang. It makes no sense to ask 'what came before' when there never was time before that specific moment to begin with. There was no before.

It makes more sense to ask 'what caused the big bang'. Asking 'what came before' is like asking what came before act 1 in a 5 act movie.

Time is inherently related to space. This can be physically observed and measured. It is the fourth easily discernable dimension. Thus there was nothing before the big bang because time was conceived with the big bang. It makes no sense to ask 'what came before' when there never was time before that specific moment to begin with. There was no before.

It makes more sense to ask 'what caused the big bang'. Asking 'what came before' is like asking what came before act 1 in a 5 act movie.

Gangans

Well big bang was caused by a reaction of something, where did that something come from? Iono...I guess since time didn't exist before big bang it's so confusing lol. But of course it couldn't have came from nothing. Maybe Universe is infinite? Who knows.

I've thought of that too, one theory is that the big bang's just another universe born but nontheless no one will ever know the truth. :D sZZZlepy_101

But there's got to be a start. If there isn't, it must be Infinite and a Big Bang, Universe ending, and then Big Bang from the left material, an repeat cycle.

i dont believe in the big bang, IMO, its silly. a 4th grader could have come up with that theory. 'one time, everything was a ball, and then it sploded:?' and what was before the big bang? idk, i dont really care, its not like me knowing would change anything.

maybe the universe was just always there. a lot of peoplethink everything has to have a beginning and end.

i dont believe in the big bang, IMO, its silly. a 4th grader could have come up with that theory. 'one time, everything was a ball, and then it sploded:?' and what was before the big bang? idk, i dont really care, its not like me knowing would change anything.

maybe the universe was just always there. a lot of peoplethink everything has to have a beginning and end.

strat505

Yes if you put it that way ofcourse it sounds silly.

But the big bang is supposed to explain how everything came to existence. Of course, it couldn't have happened from nothing, according to modern scientific standards. So you would have to constantly come up with something before each theory. So, for good measure, if a monkey caused the big bang somehow, you would also need to explain what made the monkey. And so on.

There was no Big Bang the book of Genesis explains everythingPhenomenon11

yah they created the earth and then the sun..

before the big bang, therewas god. that's my opinion.

see, this is my outlook. God is so smart, so ****ing brilliant, he was able to create a universe that did not need any of his divine intervention to exist

There was no Big Bang the book of Genesis explains everythingPhenomenon11

before the big bang, therewas god. that's my opinion.

see, this is my outlook. God is so smart, so ****ing brilliant, he was able to create a universe that did not need any of his divine intervention to exist

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that's what I tihnk too, that God made the Universe and is outside of it, HOWEVER, after that,he did not intervene and everything happened by itself. That's einstein's guess and it's called deism or something

We don't know as of now, but we'll figure it out eventually, or at least get a general idea.

Based on Bg Bang cosmology, there was no before; the Big Bang was the initiaition of both space and time (or rather, of spacetime). The question is like asking what is 0/0.xaos

But the Big Bang started from what, a reaction? Where did the things for the reaction come up? It's like saying a whole universe popped out of nothing, and the whole Universe is a master-piece, a work of a Genius. Religion disgraces this Genius (most religions, especially christianity no offense) giving him human-qualities, saying he sacrificied his Son, come on.

I don't know though.

[QUOTE="xaos"]Based on Bg Bang cosmology, there was no before; the Big Bang was the initiaition of both space and time (or rather, of spacetime). The question is like asking what is 0/0.andyb1205

But the Big Bang started from what, a reaction? Where did the things for the reaction come up? It's like saying a whole universe popped out of nothing, and the whole Universe is a master-piece, a work of a Genius. Religion disgraces this Genius (most religions, especially christianity no offense) giving him human-qualities, saying he sacrificied his Son, come on.

I don't know though.

There is an observed phenomenon called vacuum fluctuations where particle-antiparticle pairs appear out of nowhere, then disappear. The same thing is theoretically allowed for spacetime. Alan Guth proposed inflationary theory as an adjunct to Big Bang cosmology which accounts for a number of points not handled previously, mainly the horizon problem and the flatness problem. I can't explain it very clearly, because I only have a broad grasp of the proposed mechanisms. In any event, this theory presents that the reation of spacetime was an arbitrary and random occurrence, but that within the 11-space manifold, its hardly surprising that it has occurred at least once.xaos

i never head of vacuum fluctuations before. the link to wikipedia was hard for me to understand with all the lingo. so i found another site which made it a little easierto read. i don't understand it all as of right now, but i still think it is intense!

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Maybe when someone hits the nail on the head, earth will explode and create another universe and/or galaxy.

Keep the guesses coming :)

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[QUOTE="xaos"]Based on Bg Bang cosmology, there was no before; the Big Bang was the initiaition of both space and time (or rather, of spacetime). The question is like asking what is 0/0.xaos

But the Big Bang started from what, a reaction? Where did the things for the reaction come up? It's like saying a whole universe popped out of nothing, and the whole Universe is a master-piece, a work of a Genius. Religion disgraces this Genius (most religions, especially christianity no offense) giving him human-qualities, saying he sacrificied his Son, come on.

I don't know though.

trying to explain something coming from absolutely nothing...very interesting

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[QUOTE="xaos"]Based on Bg Bang cosmology, there was no before; the Big Bang was the initiaition of both space and time (or rather, of spacetime). The question is like asking what is 0/0.andyb1205

But the Big Bang started from what, a reaction? Where did the things for the reaction come up? It's like saying a whole universe popped out of nothing, and the whole Universe is a master-piece, a work of a Genius. Religion disgraces this Genius (most religions, especially christianity no offense) giving him human-qualities, saying he sacrificied his Son, come on.

I don't know though.

trying to explain something coming from absolutely nothing...very interesting

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[QUOTE="xaos"]Based on Bg Bang cosmology, there was no before; the Big Bang was the initiaition of both space and time (or rather, of spacetime). The question is like asking what is 0/0.xaos

But the Big Bang started from what, a reaction? Where did the things for the reaction come up? It's like saying a whole universe popped out of nothing, and the whole Universe is a master-piece, a work of a Genius. Religion disgraces this Genius (most religions, especially christianity no offense) giving him human-qualities, saying he sacrificied his Son, come on.

I don't know though.

trying to explain something coming from absolutely nothing...very interesting

You should make a new thread on that, that's pretty damn interesting. Something from nothing...:)

i would just like to say that i believe God existed before the big bang and always existed. i know u guys may say how did God exist right? but then, ifu count down from 10 to 0, what comes before it? nothing. the number 0 was there and will always be there, nothing comes before it. that show i compare iwth God existing. nothing was there before Him. He always existed.

i would just like to say that i believe God existed before the big bang and always existed. i know u guys may say how did God exist right? but then, ifu count down from 10 to 0, what comes before it?

GFahim

i would just like to say that i believe God existed before the big bang and always existed. i know u guys may say how did God exist right? but then, ifu count down from 10 to 0, what comes before it? nothing. the number 0 was there and will always be there, nothing comes before it. that show i compare iwth God existing. nothing was there before Him. He always existed.

GFahim

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i would just like to say that i believe God existed before the big bang and always existed. i know u guys may say how did God exist right? but then, ifu count down from 10 to 0, what comes before it?

xaos

look man, if i take 10 coins out of the bag, one by one until it goes down to 0, then obviously i can't take out a -1 coin out can i?

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i would just like to say that i believe God existed before the big bang and always existed. i know u guys may say how did God exist right? but then, ifu count down from 10 to 0, what comes before it?

GFahim

look man, if i take 10 coins out of the bag, one by one until it goes down to 0, then obviously i can't take out a -1 coin out can i?

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="GFahim"]

i would just like to say that i believe God existed before the big bang and always existed. i know u guys may say how did God exist right? but then, ifu count down from 10 to 0, what comes before it?

GFahim

look man, if i take 10 coins out of the bag, one by one until it goes down to 0, then obviously i can't take out a -1 coin out can i?

[QUOTE="GFahim"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="GFahim"]

i would just like to say that i believe God existed before the big bang and always existed. i know u guys may say how did God exist right? but then, ifu count down from 10 to 0, what comes before it?

quiglythegreat

look man, if i take 10 coins out of the bag, one by one until it goes down to 0, then obviously i can't take out a -1 coin out can i?

Yes, it does exist. It's a real value.

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i would just like to say that i believe God existed before the big bang and always existed. i know u guys may say how did God exist right? but then, ifu count down from 10 to 0, what comes before it?

xaos

LOL i was thinking that.

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i would just like to say that i believe God existed before the big bang and always existed. i know u guys may say how did God exist right? but then, ifu count down from 10 to 0, what comes before it?

Gamer556

look man, if i take 10 coins out of the bag, one by one until it goes down to 0, then obviously i can't take out a -1 coin out can i?

Yes, it does exist. It's a real value.

But you cant touch it can you? Its not an object. Just something made up by someone like all the other words/numbers.

ok then basically its the same thing if i say that nothing comes before 1. it always existed. is that better for you now? u get the point?GFahim

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i would just like to say that i believe God existed before the big bang and always existed. i know u guys may say how did God exist right? but then, ifu count down from 10 to 0, what comes before it?

ok_go_

look man, if i take 10 coins out of the bag, one by one until it goes down to 0, then obviously i can't take out a -1 coin out can i?

Yes, it does exist. It's a real value.

But you cant touch it can you? Its not an object. Just something made up by someone like all the other words/numbers.

In mathematics, if you subtract 5 from 5, you don't get "nothing", you get 0. It is just as much a number as 1,2,3, etc.

And no, words and numbers are not made up. Their names may be, but meanings and values are all constants.

If God exists, Christianity is still a joke. Because supposably out of the WHOLE UNIVERSE on a little place called Earth, His Son came to wash away sin. LOL

Why is God given Human-Like qualities? God has changed? God is uncomprehendable, if He exists He most likely is outside of the Universe, therefore the Laws of Physics,etc don't apply to Him.

He created the Universe, and He sent Messengers to all parts of the Universe, in every corner of the world, and there has not been a nation that has not been sent a Messenger or Prophet (according to Islam as there have been 300 000 prophets aside from the ones mentioned).

However, for most of them Man twisted the words of the Prophets. The Prophets did what they had to do, deliver the Message of God, but Man changed and twisted it. Islam says they're Book has not been altered. We know the Bible has been altered and it's a joke pretty much.

But saying that out of the WHOLE UNIVERSE, which probably has many intelligent life who all have been sent Messengers, and all have tried to discover the mystery of "God", out of ALL OF THEM, Jesus Christ, Here on Earth, is the Son of God and through him we will be forgiven?

What the **** is that?

how can 0 be an imaginery number? its a number which means 'nothing'. thats why 0 is placed before number 1 because 'nothing' comes before 1. hence, 'nothing' existed before God

If God exists, Christianity is still a joke. Because supposably out of the WHOLE UNIVERSE on a little place called Earth, His Son came to wash away sin. LOL

Why is God given Human-Like qualities? God has changed? God is uncomprehendable, if He exists He most likely is outside of the Universe, therefore the Laws of Physics,etc don't apply to Him.

He created the Universe, and He sent Messengers to all parts of the Universe, in every corner of the world, and there has not been a nation that has not been sent a Messenger or Prophet (according to Islam as there have been 300 000 prophets aside from the ones mentioned).

However, for most of them Man twisted the words of the Prophets. The Prophets did what they had to do, deliver the Message of God, but Man changed and twisted it. Islam says they're Book has not been altered. We know the Bible has been altered and it's a joke pretty much.

But saying that out of the WHOLE UNIVERSE, which probably has many intelligent life who all have been sent Messengers, and all have tried to discover the mystery of "God", out of ALL OF THEM, Jesus Christ, Here on Earth, is the Son of God and through him we will be forgiven?

What the **** is that?

yes, man twisted the words of the prophets (eg. bible). thats why the Quran was sent down as the FINAL revelation in which God will protect it until the Day of Judgement. that's why there were no further revelations. people have tried to change it but failed. the words in the Quran which was revealed 1400 years ago eve stand up to today's standard. not a single word has been changed. http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_index.html

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