[QUOTE="Miroku32"][QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]Bro, DBZ is the only anime where the vioces in JP were awful and the english (funimation) were great. Most times people love the original JP voice acting and prefer it in animes, but DBZ was ultra bad. The funimation dub as excellent.Nengo_Flow
Well, to be honest, the only thing that ruined DB Kai for me was Goku and Gohan seiyuu. But there were good seiyuus like Vegeta, Piccolo,Android 16 and Cell (almighty Norio Wakamoto, all Hail Emperor Wakamoto of Britannia). DBZ-Kai? why are you wasting your time with that crap? It got canceled cuz no body liked it, it was way too censored
Kai was cancelled because the soundtrack composer for DBZKai was guilty for copyright infringement on the offical soundtrack of DBZKai. The reason Toei went back to the original soundtrack in the last few episodes of Kai. And Kai ended in Japan months before the english version ended so it wasn't canceled because no one liked it. If you want blood on DBZKai watch english uncut Kai or Japanese DBZKai.
Everything! Vegeta using the gravity chamber to help train. Every time they turn super saiyan. Taking 5 episodes to finish a fight, plus an entire episode during the fight just talking and doing nothing else. That last one was sarcasm.
[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]I don't know. I thought it was okay but sometimes I felt like it took 6 EPISODES to fight the SAME PERSON. There's no need for that.cheese_game619
Takes far longer than that.
Sure does. Guys with the power to blow up planets should have some decent stamina.
The artistic pleasing way they were drawn. The animation was pretty damn good in the 80's/90's. Mind blowing 20 fing episodes to cover 5 minutes of fantasy time passing. Fighting wasn't repeated copy and paste sequences. Comedy and any sexual fanservice was through comedy. I don't even remember sexual fanservice. In other words it is about what every modern mainstream anime is not. Cept FMA.
The freeza saga was almost unwatchable because of all the filler at times. Goku's fight with freeza was the most drawn out thing I've ever seen.
VendettaRed07
I still believe Namek saga took almost a year to finish, thanks to those annoying fillers. How many episodes spanned the battle between Freeza and Goku?
The freeza saga was almost unwatchable because of all the filler at times. Goku's fight with freeza was the most drawn out thing I've ever seen.
I still believe Namek saga took almost a year to finish, thanks to those annoying fillers. How many episodes spanned the battle between Freeza and Goku? Like 16-22 for the start of the fighting to the planet exploding. Most during that 5-10 minutes till the planet explodes so hurry Goku! thing.
Like 16-22 for the start of the fighting to the planet exploding. Most during that 5-10 minutes till the planet explodes so hurry Goku! thingCreasianDevaili
I pity the poor japanese that had to watch that endless battle each week.
[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]Like 16-22 for the start of the fighting to the planet exploding. Most during that 5-10 minutes till the planet explodes so hurry Goku! thingMiroku32
I pity the poor japanese that had to watch that endless battle each week. To be honest it didn't drag on too badly till the last few. I watched the original imports on VHS long ago but still remember most of it. Well.. cept when they cued in the bulma moments. I dunno why but I hated bulma. I mean the only thing that kept it from being torture was that how they sequenced the fighting. It flowed well and there was variety in all of the attacks. It was pretty darn good and they were kinda stalling due to the manga not being that far ahead. Least to god it wasn't "even lifting my middle finger has been named something and I will say it 9000 times this episode!".
The freeza saga was almost unwatchable because of all the filler at times. Goku's fight with freeza was the most drawn out thing I've ever seen.
Miroku32
I still believe Namek saga took almost a year to finish, thanks to those annoying fillers. The ones were they were gathering the dragon balls were the worst. God I hated Gohan >_>
The freeza saga was almost unwatchable because of all the filler at times. Goku's fight with freeza was the most drawn out thing I've ever seen.
I still believe Namek saga took almost a year to finish, thanks to those annoying fillers. The ones were they were gathering the dragon balls were the worst. God I hated Gohan >_> ...what?
It was just fighting. The love stories and even the Dragon Balls themselves mostly took a backseat. It was just bad ass fighting all the time and the angrier they got the stronger they got, like ADHD kids.cheese_game619
you obviously didn't watch the show right if you thought it was "Just fighting" The first episode of Dragonball Z made everyone crap themselves as they finally found out why the hell Goku was born with a tail and why he was as super human as he was. Obvisouly your opinion based on DBZ is worthless. /don't comment unless you know what you are talking about k thanks. Go watch your crappy anime that's not as popular nor will ever be as DBZ. :twisted:
I have the entire Dragon Ball franchise on DVD (the Dragon Ball season box sets, the DBZ Funimation Uncut Dragon Box sets, and the GT season sets as well as every currently available movie/OVA/special) and I actually like Dragon Ball the most by far. I think the Frieza Saga is where the franchise as a whole peaked. Everything leading up to that was a lot better in terms of character development and story pacing. After Frieza all of Goku's friends are more or less irrelevant and the story is basically disregarded for a miss-mash of ridiculously overpowered and under-developed enemies (especially Buu), terrible transformations, and fusions. The Super Saiyan transformation is the best example of this. Before Goku went Super Saiyan for the first time, he was supposedly the first to do it in thousands of years. But afterwards we find out that pretty much every surviving Saiyan can do it (except Pan). Goten and Trunks were barely above toddlers when they first figured out how to do it whereas Goku had been doing intense training for roughly a quarter century. Goku required intense emotional incentive, while for the other characters it was more or less a plot necessity. So not only do we find out that everyone can do it (thus cheapening the effect of Goku's first epic transformation), but we also find out that there is a Super Saiyan 2. But we only find out about that after we find out about Ascended Super Saiyans and Ultra Super Saiyans. Then we find out about Super Saiyan 3? And (in GT only) 4? Come on. And then we have the Fusion thing. You take two warriors and combine them, and somehow the result is many magnitudes stronger than their two individual powers combined? By this point there is no context for the differing power levels. There is no suspense anymore because the audience knows that no matter how strong an enemy appears, there will be some new ridiculous transformation that the characters just NOW found out about. And any damage done to characters or the Earth can easily be rectified with the Dragon Balls. Losses aren't permanent, so who cares? Earlier in the series it was established that someone could only be wished back to life once, which is a defined limit. When you watch Chiaotzu and Krillin fight Nappa in the Saiyan saga, you actually CARE what happens to them because you know they'd be dead for good if they died again. Then the Namekian Dragon Balls are introduced. You get three times as many wishes and they can revive people multiple times, so the limit is gone. But they balance it by giving the Namek balls a different handicap: they can only restore a single person at a time. So while we know that our favorite characters can always be restored, we figure that something like the extinction of a planet is more or less permanent. But then they're all, NOPE, the Earth Dragon Balls now grant two wishes and all previous limitations to the Namek balls have been removed. The story should have ended with Goku killing Frieza in my book. After that it's just so hard to care about with all the time traveling, the crapping on previously defined characters and universe limitations, the fusions, the multiple Super Saiyan transformations... eh.
i really didnt see the appeal when i was young,buff dudes screaming for 16 episodes just to power up??? soooo epic bro:roll: then after like 20 episodes of fighting some big bad he the famous line is"ive been fighting at 20% power" honestly?:roll: and that majin boo saga lasted at least 4 seasons worth of episodes.good thing there was better animes back then
I have the entire Dragon Ball franchise on DVD (the Dragon Ball season box sets, the DBZ Funimation Uncut Dragon Box sets, and the GT season sets as well as every currently available movie/OVA/special) and I actually like Dragon Ball the most by far. I think the Frieza Saga is where the franchise as a whole peaked. Everything leading up to that was a lot better in terms of character development and story pacing. After Frieza all of Goku's friends are more or less irrelevant and the story is basically disregarded for a miss-mash of ridiculously overpowered and under-developed enemies (especially Buu), terrible transformations, and fusions. The Super Saiyan transformation is the best example of this. Before Goku went Super Saiyan for the first time, he was supposedly the first to do it in thousands of years. But afterwards we find out that pretty much every surviving Saiyan can do it (except Pan). Goten and Trunks were barely above toddlers when they first figured out how to do it whereas Goku had been doing intense training for roughly a quarter century. Goku required intense emotional incentive, while for the other characters it was more or less a plot necessity. So not only do we find out that everyone can do it (thus cheapening the effect of Goku's first epic transformation), but we also find out that there is a Super Saiyan 2. But we only find out about that after we find out about Ascended Super Saiyans and Ultra Super Saiyans. Then we find out about Super Saiyan 3? And (in GT only) 4? Come on. And then we have the Fusion thing. You take two warriors and combine them, and somehow the result is many magnitudes stronger than their two individual powers combined? By this point there is no context for the differing power levels. There is no suspense anymore because the audience knows that no matter how strong an enemy appears, there will be some new ridiculous transformation that the characters just NOW found out about. And any damage done to characters or the Earth can easily be rectified with the Dragon Balls. Losses aren't permanent, so who cares? Earlier in the series it was established that someone could only be wished back to life once, which is a defined limit. When you watch Chiaotzu and Krillin fight Nappa in the Saiyan saga, you actually CARE what happens to them because you know they'd be dead for good if they died again. Then the Namekian Dragon Balls are introduced. You get three times as many wishes and they can revive people multiple times, so the limit is gone. But they balance it by giving the Namek balls a different handicap: they can only restore a single person at a time. So while we know that our favorite characters can always be restored, we figure that something like the extinction of a planet is more or less permanent. But then they're all, NOPE, the Earth Dragon Balls now grant two wishes and all previous limitations to the Namek balls have been removed. The story should have ended with Goku killing Frieza in my book. After that it's just so hard to care about with all the time traveling, the crapping on previously defined characters and universe limitations, the fusions, the multiple Super Saiyan transformations... eh.savebattery
I personally think it peaked once cell was done. It would have been dumb to hype up gohans power from the very start and go nowhere in the end. I can buy gohan,vegita and futuer trunks cause they went through hell to reach that power and even trunks went through an event just like goku did. So those characters turning SS doesint cheapen it. KId trunks and Goten does since they just say said "hey look *poof* im a SS" with no effort at all which was just lazy. SO yea gohan reaching his true strenth after all the hype killing cell and being left to take his fathers place as the protector of earth. THats how it should have eneded.
I personally think it peaked once cell was done. It would have been dumb to hype up gohans power from the very start and go nowhere in the end. I can buy gohan,vegita and futuer trunks cause they went through hell to reach that power and even trunks went through an event just like goku did. So those characters turning SS doesint cheapen it. KId trunks and Goten does since they just say said "hey look *poof* im a SS" with no effort at all which was just lazy. SO yea gohan reaching his true strenth after all the hype killing cell and being left to take his fathers place as the protector of earth. THats how it should have eneded.
I'm going to have to say the Cell saga was the peak as well, all of DBZ they forshadowed Gohan's "hidden power" Dragonball Z was suppose to end after the cell saga, and it would of been perfect if it left that way. Goku dead, Gohan now the strongest being in existience at the time has just turned Super Saiyan II(which could of been the legendary super saiyan that was brought up during the freiza saga.)
I personally think it peaked once cell was done. It would have been dumb to hype up gohans power from the very start and go nowhere in the end. I can buy gohan,vegita and futuer trunks cause they went through hell to reach that power and even trunks went through an event just like goku did. So those characters turning SS doesint cheapen it. KId trunks and Goten does since they just say said "hey look *poof* im a SS" with no effort at all which was just lazy. SO yea gohan reaching his true strenth after all the hype killing cell and being left to take his fathers place as the protector of earth. THats how it should have eneded.
finalfantasy94
I thought it peaked at the Frieza saga and the Cell saga was the furthest it could have gone without seeming overdone.
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]I personally think it peaked once cell was done. It would have been dumb to hype up gohans power from the very start and go nowhere in the end. I can buy gohan,vegita and futuer trunks cause they went through hell to reach that power and even trunks went through an event just like goku did. So those characters turning SS doesint cheapen it. KId trunks and Goten does since they just say said "hey look *poof* im a SS" with no effort at all which was just lazy. SO yea gohan reaching his true strenth after all the hype killing cell and being left to take his fathers place as the protector of earth. THats how it should have eneded.
BranKetra
I thought it peaked at the Frieza saga and the Cell saga was the furthest it could have gone without seeming overdone. What was wrong with the Android/Cell sagas? You didn't like the Trunk's saga? I'm assuming you didn't watch the show week by week when it was first airing on Cartoon network.
yeah DBZ started heading downhill after the frieza, but it was still good.hadoken
Mind explaing how so? I can totally understand how it started to suck after the Cell saga, but the Freiza saga? Sure Goku turning Super Saiyan was awesome, but Trunks coming back to the past was more awesome imo. Not to mention the Androids being coming back. (brings me back to Dragonball...Assuming most of you watched DBZ first)
I was a massive fanboy of the show, but as I grew older, I started to see it for it's simplicity. The characters were one dimensional, the plot was thin, and the show moved at a snail pace.
By today's standards, its a terrible show, but for the 80's it offered a unique formula that simply wasn't present in American TV. No other cartoon/anime at the time delivered such a unique art styIe, fast paced action and over-arching storylines. I would never watch the show now, but I would welcome a reboot with open arms.
Blue-Sky
I agree. Now there are cartoons like Young Justice, that show how much plot means.
[QUOTE="hadoken"]yeah DBZ started heading downhill after the frieza, but it was still good.Jamiemydearx3
Mind explaing how so? I can totally understand how it started to suck after the Cell saga, but the Freiza saga? Sure Goku turning Super Saiyan was awesome, but Trunks coming back to the past was more awesome imo. Not to mention the Androids being coming back. (brings me back to Dragonball...Assuming most of you watched DBZ first) yeah the android saga was cool, but it went downhill when cell turned into his perfect form because then it was all about him "finding a worthy opponent" which was dumb. he was meant to destroy the universe and all he wanted to do was make gohan angry, are you kidding me?
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]I personally think it peaked once cell was done. It would have been dumb to hype up gohans power from the very start and go nowhere in the end. I can buy gohan,vegita and futuer trunks cause they went through hell to reach that power and even trunks went through an event just like goku did. So those characters turning SS doesint cheapen it. KId trunks and Goten does since they just say said "hey look *poof* im a SS" with no effort at all which was just lazy. SO yea gohan reaching his true strenth after all the hype killing cell and being left to take his fathers place as the protector of earth. THats how it should have eneded.
Jamiemydearx3
I thought it peaked at the Frieza saga and the Cell saga was the furthest it could have gone without seeming overdone. What was wrong with the Android/Cell sagas? You didn't like the Trunk's saga? I'm assuming you didn't watch the show week by week when it was first airing on Cartoon network. It felt forced. Basically, Goku dies in the Frieza saga, but Toriyama retconned it in the Trunks saga so his memory of it was different. He said himself that he wanted it to end then, so I think making such an obvious story was his way of showing that. DBZ only continued because fans asked for it and again after the Cell saga, and again after Buu saga...which led to GT gracing the world without him. At that point, he said he had enough.
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]I personally think it peaked once cell was done. It would have been dumb to hype up gohans power from the very start and go nowhere in the end. I can buy gohan,vegita and futuer trunks cause they went through hell to reach that power and even trunks went through an event just like goku did. So those characters turning SS doesint cheapen it. KId trunks and Goten does since they just say said "hey look *poof* im a SS" with no effort at all which was just lazy. SO yea gohan reaching his true strenth after all the hype killing cell and being left to take his fathers place as the protector of earth. THats how it should have eneded.
Jamiemydearx3
I thought it peaked at the Frieza saga and the Cell saga was the furthest it could have gone without seeming overdone. What was wrong with the Android/Cell sagas? You didn't like the Trunk's saga? I'm assuming you didn't watch the show week by week when it was first airing on Cartoon network. What's wrong with Android and Cell? How about: -Dr Gero was never even mentioned when Goku was fighting the Red Ribbon Army. The old RR Army existed because Commander Red wanted to use the Dragon Balls to become taller. It's a gigantic plot hole. -Immediately after they spent 30 or 40 episodes of the Frieza/Namek arc building up how amazingly awesome and rare the Super Saiyan transformation was, they take a giant crap on it by showing us that pretty much every surviving Saiyan can do it. -Piccolo, Tien, Krillin, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu were all major characters in Dragon Ball. They were all powerful enough to be relevant in Goku's shenanigans rather than just a bunch of worthless cheerleaders. They spent literally hundreds of episodes building them up as characters only to completely disregard them later. -The Hyperbolic Time Chamber is another one of those convenient plot devices that somehow allows our heroes to quadruple their strength whenever they feel like it. Goku and Vegeta trained for three years in anticipation of the arrival of the Androids. It is implied that both are weaker than Android 18 (who kicks the crap out of Super Saiyan Vegeta). So then Goku gets one year of training in the Chamber and is now suddenly able to fight evenly with Perfect Cell (who was many magnitudes stronger than either 17 or 18)? It insults the intelligence of the viewer/reader. It takes Goku 24 years to advance his power level from 2 (at birth) to roughly 440 (vs Raditz) but he can now make multi-billion unit power level jumps inside of a year? -Cell as a character is hollow. Compare him to previous villains from Dragon Ball and Z-- Tien Shinhan, Piccolo, Frieza, Vegeta. All of them are extremely complex characters with varying motivations and evolving viewpoints. Cell is just a toy created by a plothole character for generic "revenge".
[QUOTE="cheese_game619"]It was just fighting. The love stories and even the Dragon Balls themselves mostly took a backseat. It was just bad ass fighting all the time and the angrier they got the stronger they got, like ADHD kids.Jamiemydearx3
you obviously didn't watch the show right if you thought it was "Just fighting" The first episode of Dragonball Z made everyone crap themselves as they finally found out why the hell Goku was born with a tail and why he was as super human as he was. Obvisouly your opinion based on DBZ is worthless. /don't comment unless you know what you are talking about k thanks. Go watch your crappy anime that's not as popular nor will ever be as DBZ. :twisted:
Hey, idiot. I like DBZ. It is just mostly fighting. That's why I like it. It's the only anime I like.
[QUOTE="BranKetra"] I thought it peaked at the Frieza saga and the Cell saga was the furthest it could have gone without seeming overdone.
BranKetra
What was wrong with the Android/Cell sagas? You didn't like the Trunk's saga? I'm assuming you didn't watch the show week by week when it was first airing on Cartoon network. It felt forced. Basically, Goku dies in the Frieza saga, but Toriyama retconned it in the Trunks saga so his memory of it was different. He said himself that he wanted it to end then, so I think making such an obvious story was his way of showing that. DBZ only continued because fans asked for it and again after the Cell saga, and again after Buu saga...which ledto GT gracing the world without him. At that point, he said he had enough.
before trunks even appeared there was nothing said of goku being dead by any of the characters. ONly said was goku was still alive just didint want to come back yet.
before trunks even appeared there was nothing said of goku being dead by any of the characters. ONly said was goku was still alive just didint want to come back yet.
finalfantasy94
Yeah, but I'm going by the actual scene with him, rather than what other people said. Frieza's ship and that Ginyu space pod fell into lava. That was it. Later, he remembered that he actually happened to jump into it and fly off.
Paired with the fact that Toriyama actually wrote out his intentions for the series, I think that's what would have happened if he had his way.
[QUOTE="BranKetra"] I thought it peaked at the Frieza saga and the Cell saga was the furthest it could have gone without seeming overdone.
savebattery
What was wrong with the Android/Cell sagas? You didn't like the Trunk's saga? I'm assuming you didn't watch the show week by week when it was first airing on Cartoon network. What's wrong with Android and Cell? How about: -Dr Gero was never even mentioned when Goku was fighting the Red Ribbon Army. The old RR Army existed because Commander Red wanted to use the Dragon Balls to become taller. It's a gigantic plot hole. -Immediately after they spent 30 or 40 episodes of the Frieza/Namek arc building up how amazingly awesome and rare the Super Saiyan transformation was, they take a giant crap on it by showing us that pretty much every surviving Saiyan can do it. -Piccolo, Tien, Krillin, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu were all major characters in Dragon Ball. They were all powerful enough to be relevant in Goku's shenanigans rather than just a bunch of worthless cheerleaders. They spent literally hundreds of episodes building them up as characters only to completely disregard them later. -The Hyperbolic Time Chamber is another one of those convenient plot devices that somehow allows our heroes to quadruple their strength whenever they feel like it. Goku and Vegeta trained for three years in anticipation of the arrival of the Androids. It is implied that both are weaker than Android 18 (who kicks the crap out of Super Saiyan Vegeta). So then Goku gets one year of training in the Chamber and is now suddenly able to fight evenly with Perfect Cell (who was many magnitudes stronger than either 17 or 18)? It insults the intelligence of the viewer/reader. It takes Goku 24 years to advance his power level from 2 (at birth) to roughly 440 (vs Raditz) but he can now make multi-billion unit power level jumps inside of a year? -Cell as a character is hollow. Compare him to previous villains from Dragon Ball and Z-- Tien Shinhan, Piccolo, Frieza, Vegeta. All of them are extremely complex characters with varying motivations and evolving viewpoints. Cell is just a toy created by a plothole character for generic "revenge".
Again the only 2 characters that poop on the ss thing are kid trunks and goten. They put zero effort in thier transformation it was just *poof*. ss vegita was shown getting to the breaking point untill finally doing it. Futuer trunks suffered the same way goku did on namek and gohan was trained by goku and pushed to his limits and goku had some knowledge of becoming a ss. Also lets not lie here everyone but piccolo was pushed to the side once z started. The sayin sage destroyed everyone els in a blink of an eye you knew thier fate from then on in the show. Piccolo was the only character to somewhat survive the extremes of this fate. As examples of holding his own against second form friza,android 17 and first form cell.
yeah the android saga was cool, but it went downhill when cell turned into his perfect form because then it was all about him "finding a worthy opponent" which was dumb. he was meant to destroy the universe and all he wanted to do was make gohan angry, are you kidding me?hadoken
That was explained in Cell's first couple of episodes. Piccolo asks him why he is here and he says he doesn't care about destroying the Earth or anything, he just wants to be the best he can be and then fight the best (admitting it's possibly due to his Saiyan cells). Hence the Cell Games and his provocation of Gohan. Now on some of the other points made, I disagree Frieza should have been the end. There were heaps of cool elements to the Android and Cell fights and how they overlapped. Some of the best scenes in the series were in the fights against Cell. That is where it should have ended though. Superhero Gohan was stupid. Videl sucks and so does Hercule. Children being SSJ's was stupid. SSJ3 was stupid. The only thing that whole saga produced was a fight between Goku and Vegeta, and it barely did that. Then GT and beyond is all ridiculous.
[QUOTE="hadoken"]yeah the android saga was cool, but it went downhill when cell turned into his perfect form because then it was all about him "finding a worthy opponent" which was dumb. he was meant to destroy the universe and all he wanted to do was make gohan angry, are you kidding me?cheese_game619
That was explained in Cell's first couple of episodes. Piccolo asks him why he is here and he says he doesn't care about destroying the Earth or anything, he just wants to be the best he can be and then fight the best (admitting it's possibly due to his Saiyan cells). Hence the Cell Games and his provocation of Gohan. Now on some of the other points made, I disagree Frieza should have been the end. There were heaps of cool elements to the Android and Cell fights and how they overlapped. Some of the best scenes in the series were in the fights against Cell. That is where it should have ended though. Superhero Gohan was stupid. Videl sucks and so does Hercule. Children being SSJ's was stupid. SSJ3 was stupid. The only thing that whole saga produced was a fight between Goku and Vegeta, and it barely did that. Then GT and beyond is all ridiculous.
For someone who seemingly hates weeaboos, you know an awful lot about DBZ.
[QUOTE="hadoken"]yeah the android saga was cool, but it went downhill when cell turned into his perfect form because then it was all about him "finding a worthy opponent" which was dumb. he was meant to destroy the universe and all he wanted to do was make gohan angry, are you kidding me?cheese_game619
That was explained in Cell's first couple of episodes. Piccolo asks him why he is here and he says he doesn't care about destroying the Earth or anything, he just wants to be the best he can be and then fight the best (admitting it's possibly due to his Saiyan cells). Hence the Cell Games and his provocation of Gohan. Now on some of the other points made, I disagree Frieza should have been the end. There were heaps of cool elements to the Android and Cell fights and how they overlapped. Some of the best scenes in the series were in the fights against Cell. That is where it should have ended though. Superhero Gohan was stupid. Videl sucks and so does Hercule. Children being SSJ's was stupid. SSJ3 was stupid. The only thing that whole saga produced was a fight between Goku and Vegeta, and it barely did that. Then GT and beyond is all ridiculous.
To be honest the only postive things that came out of everything after cell was the fact the characters are fun to use in video games. Besides that I would have been fine it all ended in cell.
For someone who seemingly hates weeaboos, you know an awful lot about DBZ.Ilovegames1992
This show is the closest I got to weeaboo as a kid.
[QUOTE="cheese_game619"]MAHSPEECHfinalfantasy94
To be honest the only postive things that came out of everything after cell was the fact the characters are fun to use in video games. Besides that I would have been fine it all ended in cell.
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