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[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]i blame high fructose corn syrup... NO where else in world besides u.s.wii60_3Yes,, its in like EVERYTHING all the food we consume is garbage thats engineered not to be healthy but for profit and to make americans dumb american's don't need food for that
not a fan of the uniform calorie theory, our bodies do not treat all things equalThey put more in than what comes out.
Tikeio
Lack of exercise, stress, and laziness. American don't cook for themselves nearly as much as people from other countries, and there is no encouragement to leave work for meals, and much less vacation.
So much technology is only making the situation work.
the same reasons why alot of other people in the developed world are overweight.
relatively cheap food (especially junk food) along with a lack of physical activity, and this includes in the workplace.
though its also important to note that age factors into this, the developed world ,with a few exceptions , is getting older, and age does have an effect on a person's weight (unless he/she has regular physical activity, and watches what he eats, which most people don't)
[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]The accessibility, and cheap cost of fast food. WiiMan21This^ And the lack of time to make a proper meal. I can't remember the last time I had a nice home cooked meal. I'm not fat though. Lack of time? wtf are you talking about, everyone has 24h in a day. Don't make excuses for not spending the time to cook dinner. Everyone has the time each day to cook food, people simply choose to do something else with that time.
But there are lots of fat people in Samoa and Philliphines as well. Like I said it all about gluttony and fat people are food sluts.Portion size, the US portion size is crazy large, that can't be helping.
tenaka2
[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]How so I clearly burned more calories than I ateAnd then you said eating "crap" late at night was a no-no. So these rules apply until late at night?The rules are in place for joe average the lazy man.[QUOTE="The_Zoid"]You literally just contradicted yourself.
The_Zoid
[QUOTE="tenaka2"]But there are lots of fat people in Samoa and Philliphines as well. Like I said it all about gluttony and fat people are food sluts.Portion size, the US portion size is crazy large, that can't be helping.
EasyStreet
Samoa is different, it is a cultural situation, large women are deemed attractive and skinny girls ugly, its not gluttony.
Having just returned from a 2 week trip to Florida I will say that it is down to the prevalence of high calorie, low nutritional value foods. The diet in America (and TBH in the UK as well) seems to be centred around high-glycemic index (processed) carbohydrates and saturated fats, very little (if any) fruit and veg, and low levels of low fat protein - HUGE steaks do not count!! The body can only process so much sugar, anything that isn't used is stored immediately as fat. Sugar is the quickest way that the body can obtain energy, but consuming more than your body needs is counter-productive.
Portion size is a major factor, American standard portions are WAAAAAAAY too big. And, a big thing that struck me is the availablity and prevalence of fizzy drinks. Good lord! It is cheap, there are endless free refills, I was shocked that a glass of coke was cheaper than water - that is just screwed up and is a HUGE factor to the obesity problem.
I would also hazard that lack of education about food is a huge factor as well - it just has to be, otherwise people would be able to make more sensible choices about what they eat.
No time to prepare a healthy meal is just a lazy man's excuse for not taking care of themselves - sorry if that is harsh, bit it is true.
I would also suggest that lack of exercise is a major factor - Americans seem to drive EVERYWHERE! I never once saw a person walking along the street, NOT ONCE.
The body needs a balanced diet, that includes, fats, complex carbohydrates, protein, vitmains & minerals & water. It isn't difficult.
[QUOTE="WiiMan21"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]The accessibility, and cheap cost of fast food. STAR_AdmiralThis^ And the lack of time to make a proper meal. I can't remember the last time I had a nice home cooked meal. I'm not fat though. Lack of time? wtf are you talking about, everyone has 24h in a day. Don't make excuses for not spending the time to cook dinner. Everyone has the time each day to cook food, people simply choose to do something else with that time.
Spend 10+ hours a day away at work (commute, lunch time, actual work time), then throw in responsibilities you have to do to keep on living (shopping, keeping the house clean, chores), and then if you're trying to be healthy, throw in the 2 hours it takes for a proper work out and shower after. You're not left with a lot of time.
I'm living alone right now. I spend 10 hours a day away from home and when I finally get there I spend most of the time doing things around the house.
You have the most free time of your life when you're a kid or in college. That's it. After that, it's mostly work and responsiblitiy. Cooking a good meal is more than just spending the 20 minutes to cook, it's spending the 10 minutes to clean up, making sure you have all of the supplies, making sure that you can store the food somewhere so it preserves. In the end you end up wasting yet another hour on making food.
That 24 hours is a lot less time when the responsibilities pile up. Working it the whole time and not taking any time for entertainment or distraction will drive you mad.
Having just returned from a 2 week trip to Florida I will say that it is down to the prevalence of high calorie, low nutritional value foods. The diet in America (and TBH in the UK as well) seems to be centred around high-glycemic index (processed) carbohydrates and saturated fats, very little (if any) fruit and veg, and low levels of low fat protein - HUGE steaks do not count!! The body can only process so much sugar, anything that isn't used is stored immediately as fat. Sugar is the quickest way that the body can obtain energy, but consuming more than your body needs is counter-productive.
Portion size is a major factor, American standard portions are WAAAAAAAY too big. And, a big thing that struck me is the availablity and prevalence of fizzy drinks. Good lord! It is cheap, there are endless free refills, I was shocked that a glass of coke was cheaper than water - that is just screwed up and is a HUGE factor to the obesity problem.
I would also hazard that lack of education about food is a huge factor as well - it just has to be, otherwise people would be able to make more sensible choices about what they eat.
No time to prepare a healthy meal is just a lazy man's excuse for not taking care of themselves - sorry if that is harsh, bit it is true.
I would also suggest that lack of exercise is a major factor - Americans seem to drive EVERYWHERE! I never once saw a person walking along the street, NOT ONCE.
The body needs a balanced diet, that includes, fats, complex carbohydrates, protein, vitmains & minerals & water. It isn't difficult.
wavey_gravey
look at what the government tells people is healthy to eat, if you are living the first world cedentary life style, there is no fudging way you should be eating 6-11 servings of grain.
[QUOTE="-Toshy-"]Thyroid problems. [spoiler] Not serious. [/spoiler] The_ZoidArg. For sure you were gonna pull trollface. I love it when people say 'it's in my genetics, my dad had it too', how many people in Africa have thyroid problems?
[QUOTE="wavey_gravey"]
Having just returned from a 2 week trip to Florida I will say that it is down to the prevalence of high calorie, low nutritional value foods. The diet in America (and TBH in the UK as well) seems to be centred around high-glycemic index (processed) carbohydrates and saturated fats, very little (if any) fruit and veg, and low levels of low fat protein - HUGE steaks do not count!! The body can only process so much sugar, anything that isn't used is stored immediately as fat. Sugar is the quickest way that the body can obtain energy, but consuming more than your body needs is counter-productive.
Portion size is a major factor, American standard portions are WAAAAAAAY too big. And, a big thing that struck me is the availablity and prevalence of fizzy drinks. Good lord! It is cheap, there are endless free refills, I was shocked that a glass of coke was cheaper than water - that is just screwed up and is a HUGE factor to the obesity problem.
I would also hazard that lack of education about food is a huge factor as well - it just has to be, otherwise people would be able to make more sensible choices about what they eat.
No time to prepare a healthy meal is just a lazy man's excuse for not taking care of themselves - sorry if that is harsh, bit it is true.
I would also suggest that lack of exercise is a major factor - Americans seem to drive EVERYWHERE! I never once saw a person walking along the street, NOT ONCE.
The body needs a balanced diet, that includes, fats, complex carbohydrates, protein, vitmains & minerals & water. It isn't difficult.
surrealnumber5
look at what the government tells people is healthy to eat, if you are living the first world cedentary life style, there is no fudging way you should be eating 6-11 servings of grain.
Hence, my lack of education suggestion.
That pyramid is SO out of date and really needs to be revised.
[QUOTE="wavey_gravey"]
Having just returned from a 2 week trip to Florida I will say that it is down to the prevalence of high calorie, low nutritional value foods. The diet in America (and TBH in the UK as well) seems to be centred around high-glycemic index (processed) carbohydrates and saturated fats, very little (if any) fruit and veg, and low levels of low fat protein - HUGE steaks do not count!! The body can only process so much sugar, anything that isn't used is stored immediately as fat. Sugar is the quickest way that the body can obtain energy, but consuming more than your body needs is counter-productive.
Portion size is a major factor, American standard portions are WAAAAAAAY too big. And, a big thing that struck me is the availablity and prevalence of fizzy drinks. Good lord! It is cheap, there are endless free refills, I was shocked that a glass of coke was cheaper than water - that is just screwed up and is a HUGE factor to the obesity problem.
I would also hazard that lack of education about food is a huge factor as well - it just has to be, otherwise people would be able to make more sensible choices about what they eat.
No time to prepare a healthy meal is just a lazy man's excuse for not taking care of themselves - sorry if that is harsh, bit it is true.
I would also suggest that lack of exercise is a major factor - Americans seem to drive EVERYWHERE! I never once saw a person walking along the street, NOT ONCE.
The body needs a balanced diet, that includes, fats, complex carbohydrates, protein, vitmains & minerals & water. It isn't difficult.
surrealnumber5
look at what the government tells people is healthy to eat, if you are living the first world cedentary life style, there is no fudging way you should be eating 6-11 servings of grain.
It depends on the servings size. I consider one cup of rice to be a 4 servings. 1 single bread to a 1 serving.[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="wavey_gravey"]
Having just returned from a 2 week trip to Florida I will say that it is down to the prevalence of high calorie, low nutritional value foods. The diet in America (and TBH in the UK as well) seems to be centred around high-glycemic index (processed) carbohydrates and saturated fats, very little (if any) fruit and veg, and low levels of low fat protein - HUGE steaks do not count!! The body can only process so much sugar, anything that isn't used is stored immediately as fat. Sugar is the quickest way that the body can obtain energy, but consuming more than your body needs is counter-productive.
Portion size is a major factor, American standard portions are WAAAAAAAY too big. And, a big thing that struck me is the availablity and prevalence of fizzy drinks. Good lord! It is cheap, there are endless free refills, I was shocked that a glass of coke was cheaper than water - that is just screwed up and is a HUGE factor to the obesity problem.
I would also hazard that lack of education about food is a huge factor as well - it just has to be, otherwise people would be able to make more sensible choices about what they eat.
No time to prepare a healthy meal is just a lazy man's excuse for not taking care of themselves - sorry if that is harsh, bit it is true.
I would also suggest that lack of exercise is a major factor - Americans seem to drive EVERYWHERE! I never once saw a person walking along the street, NOT ONCE.
The body needs a balanced diet, that includes, fats, complex carbohydrates, protein, vitmains & minerals & water. It isn't difficult.
EasyStreet
look at what the government tells people is healthy to eat, if you are living the first world cedentary life style, there is no fudging way you should be eating 6-11 servings of grain.
It depends on the servings size. I consider one cup of rice to be a 4 servings. 1 single bread to a 1 serving. there are 17 slices of bread in a standard loaf the sugested intake is 65% of a loaf of bread a day or other grain equivalence, i used bread because it is easy to imagine. that is a lot of grain. 1/2 cup of cooked white rice is considered one serving, so that would be three to five and a half cups of cooked rice every day.[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]The accessibility, and cheap cost of fast food. kraychikIt's also the lack of movement in much of America. It's not just an overconsumption of food, but a deficit in physical activity. I'd have to agree, but in results to weight maintenance, the majority is your diet, not the actually 'working out/moving'.
[QUOTE="kraychik"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]The accessibility, and cheap cost of fast food. FightingfanIt's also the lack of movement in much of America. It's not just an overconsumption of food, but a deficit in physical activity. I'd have to agree, but in results to weight maintenance, the majority is your diet, not the actually 'working out/moving'. i disagree completely, the two requirements for a "fit" body are food and activity, cutting out food wont bring activity to the inactive, it will only shut down their motabilism and put them into starvation mode, they will not get healthy by eating less.
[QUOTE="kraychik"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]The accessibility, and cheap cost of fast food. FightingfanIt's also the lack of movement in much of America. It's not just an overconsumption of food, but a deficit in physical activity. I'd have to agree, but in results to weight maintenance, the majority is your diet, not the actually 'working out/moving'. They're both essential parts of the equation of energy balance (or imbalance), though. Whether or not you gain or lose weight depends on whether you create a caloric deficit or surplus (or balance) over time. So the amount of calories a person burns is just as important as the amount of calories a person consumes. If you eat six thousand calories a day but exercise quite a bit, you may still maintain a good physique. See what I mean?
Fastfood itself is too cheap and the price gap of larger sized items is so small(30Cents some times) that people always get more then they can eat and just stuff it in. Also health food is to expensive and its getting harder for people to afford, so they go for cheaper options. Plus lack of excersise isn't helping us.
At least most American girls who are 20 years of age don't look like 13 year olds like my friends from Hong Kong do. I mean, damn, would not fap or tap.Seriously.. I came back to U.S for a few weeks from Hong Kong.. and I was like holy **** people are really fat.
OG_LIP
[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]The accessibility, and cheap cost of fast food. kraychikIt's also the lack of movement in much of America. It's not just an overconsumption of food, but a deficit in physical activity.Look you want to lose the pounds then you need a activity that burns calories. I am going to remove extra factors but in general if you eat 2000 and use 3000 then you will lose pounds fast. The problem comes in when losing pounds and you need to burn 500 calories more than you ate. Well most people get on the treadmill for example and at a moderate pace with a say 1 percent incline and it takes 1 hour to burn that. Joe average can't even jog around the block so that is a major problem.
That big mac meal you ate with the coke has 1/2 for fat intake for the day. It also has almost a full days salt intake and more if you use the ketchup. You just ate almost 1200 calories in one meal. Well joe average sitting at a desk should eat 2200 calories just to maintain his current size. He just ate 1/2 his calories in one meal and has 2 more to go. So you can see how joe average could turn into a tub if this is a daily thing. I see it all the time at work they eat some junk for breakfast, then more junk for lunch. They go home and are too tired to cook and eat more junk. How much exercise did they do. They walked to the car and in and out the store then walked into the house slowly. They get home do basic cleaning and sit down to watch hours of tv or surf the web ect. The whole day they maybe had a few snacks as well then go to sleep.
They wake up and repeat. Get the picture no wonder joe average looks like crap.
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]
[QUOTE="wavey_gravey"]
Having just returned from a 2 week trip to Florida I will say that it is down to the prevalence of high calorie, low nutritional value foods. The diet in America (and TBH in the UK as well) seems to be centred around high-glycemic index (processed) carbohydrates and saturated fats, very little (if any) fruit and veg, and low levels of low fat protein - HUGE steaks do not count!! The body can only process so much sugar, anything that isn't used is stored immediately as fat. Sugar is the quickest way that the body can obtain energy, but consuming more than your body needs is counter-productive.
Portion size is a major factor, American standard portions are WAAAAAAAY too big. And, a big thing that struck me is the availablity and prevalence of fizzy drinks. Good lord! It is cheap, there are endless free refills, I was shocked that a glass of coke was cheaper than water - that is just screwed up and is a HUGE factor to the obesity problem.
I would also hazard that lack of education about food is a huge factor as well - it just has to be, otherwise people would be able to make more sensible choices about what they eat.
No time to prepare a healthy meal is just a lazy man's excuse for not taking care of themselves - sorry if that is harsh, bit it is true.
I would also suggest that lack of exercise is a major factor - Americans seem to drive EVERYWHERE! I never once saw a person walking along the street, NOT ONCE.
The body needs a balanced diet, that includes, fats, complex carbohydrates, protein, vitmains & minerals & water. It isn't difficult.
wavey_gravey
look at what the government tells people is healthy to eat, if you are living the first world cedentary life style, there is no fudging way you should be eating 6-11 servings of grain.
Hence, my lack of education suggestion.
That pyramid is SO out of date and really needs to be revised.
It has been revised. The government doesn't use the food pyramid anymore.At least most American girls who are 20 years of age don't look like 13 year olds like my friends from Hong Kong do. I mean, damn, would not fap or tap. I understand.[QUOTE="OG_LIP"]
Seriously.. I came back to U.S for a few weeks from Hong Kong.. and I was like holy **** people are really fat.
Hexagon_777
[QUOTE="wavey_gravey"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]
look at what the government tells people is healthy to eat, if you are living the first world cedentary life style, there is no fudging way you should be eating 6-11 servings of grain.
-Sun_Tzu-
Hence, my lack of education suggestion.
That pyramid is SO out of date and really needs to be revised.
It has been revised. The government doesn't use the food pyramid anymore. do you have the new one? because i got mine from the usda website[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="wavey_gravey"]It has been revised. The government doesn't use the food pyramid anymore. do you have the new one? http://www.choosemyplate.gov/myplate/index.aspxHence, my lack of education suggestion.
That pyramid is SO out of date and really needs to be revised.
surrealnumber5
do you have the new one? because i got mine from the usda websitesurrealnumber5
They use the MyPlate thing now.
Aside from what's been said about diet, understand also that the U.S. is very spread out. Outside the major metropolitan areas, you're going to need a car to get anywhere. There simply isn't a pedestrian infastructure in many small to mid-sized cities. It's often impossible to easily walk from one store to the store right next to it, because there's two parking lots the size of fvck and a busy road between them. Seriously, our parking lots are huge.
You simply can't get anywhere without a car in most places in the U.S., and the lack of sidewalks (pavement for you John Bulls) in most places makes walking somewhat hazardous besides.
Walking in my town is an excersize in frustration. Sidewalks start and end abruptly for no reason.
Okay, so there's this bridge right in the middle of town, right? I mean, at the intersection leading up to it, there's electric pedestrian signs and everything.
I hate this damn intersection. Fvcking hate it.
So the sidewalks obviously lead up to and across the bridge on both sides, so okay...
I like to spit over the side to see if I can hit the ducks below.
So you're obviously encouraged to walk over the bridge, but once you get across...
What the fvck is this sh1t?
Seriously, look at that sh1t. Look how far away the nearest parking lot is. The other half of the town is just around the curve. Seriously, why the hell do the sidewalks just end right here?
Fvck. Dammit.
It'd be nice to be able to walk behind those guardrails, so I'm not about getting side-swipped walking down through here, but the guardrails are there because there's a steep fvcking drop on the other side.
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