Whats some good metal?

[QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]If you want some more technical stuff I recommend Dream theater- progressive Sonata Arctica - Power Nightwish- symphonic Opeth- progressive deathYoshiYogurt

And if you want some stuff that kicks ass, stay away from all those bands.

Ya, Sonata Arctica Kicks @$$ faster than a speeding shell from an atomic robot!

[QUOTE="Nude_Dude"]

Durrrr I have to hate metalcore durrr I'm a true metal fan durrrr.

Also, At The Gates greatly influenced the modern metalcore scene vocals-wise, so nice of you to mention them.

Some good metal

Animatronic64

You get defensive too easily.

I forgot a couple and it is a LAME LIST?!

1. I thought SHGM just had some of the people from RX not all of 'em.

2. I chose songs that were the easiest to get into, so obviously they are going to be predictable. I wanted to choose "Mirror of Souls" or "I Am" for Theocracy but doubt people would want to sit through a 10 minute, let alone 22 minute song no matter how good they are.

3. I have no clue what "(sucks)" referes to and sweet how Pathfinder comin' out with a new album. Sonata Arctica is coming out with one too!

Hey, at least I didn't post any DrgaonForce, so lay off me man!

Hatiko

And the sucks part was referring to PS 3.

Didn't you hear? After DragonForce's newest album, they're not the worst power band anymore! Now they're considered class. Or something like that.

That said, I agree with some of the angst raised about Dream Theater and Nightwish, not so much Sonata Arctica and other power metal bands. Dream Theater is hackneyed; they've been living off of their riffs from Scenes From a Memory by recycling the content into their new releases. And it's obvious! They don't even change the tempo. At least bands like ZZ Top try to do something different with their recycled riffs; what Dream Theater has done is lazy and inexcusable.

Nightwish is not metal anymore. Anyone who I have demoed their post-Tarja stuff too says it sounds like Abba or Ace of Base. And my friends aren't metal-heads. Apathetic_Prick

Notice how I didn't say anything bad or good about Dream Theater. I said they did not kick ass. Music can be good and not kick ass. I love Queen, and they rarely kicked ass. Pink Floyd are a gret band who didn't really kick ass.

Motorhead and Venom, like them or not, kick ass. That doesn't make them better or worse than Rush, for example, they just kick more ass, they rock harder, they are heavier, faster and more aggressive. That is not a prerequiste for being good, but it does help quite a lot if you want to play metal.

And don't disrespect the genuine power metal bands; they keep the classical side alive. The cornerstone of what metal has become today is not so much the blues that Sabbath started off with, but the classical that Judas Priest introduced - or the punk that Anthrax pushed - so to say that that doesn't kick ass is pure fallacy. But yes, post-Scenes From A Memory Dream Theater sucks and Nightwish is now just a pop-rock band. A symphonic one, but they don't qualify as metal. Sadly, while Tarja is still doing metal, it's this pretensious douchey baroque-classical-style sh*t. That doesn't fly; metal is a lot of the things, pretensious isn't one of them.Apathetic_Prick

When did I say that? Both Black Sabbath and Judas Priest are two of the very few true pillars of heavy metal. They are all kinds of awesome, they kick ass (they just happen to kick a little bit less ass than Motorhead) and I worship them. Now, you can't really compare Judas Priest to crap like Sonata Arctica and get away with it just like that. Helloween, Gamma Ray, Running Wild, all that good stuff, sure... But Sonata Arctica or Rhapsody? Yeah... No. Not a chance. Feel free to like them as much as you want, but going from Judast Priest to that stuff is quite a bith of a stretch, regardless of how much they claim Judas Priest influenced them

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"]

[QUOTE="Nude_Dude"] Get over yourself. I don't hate Metalcore, nor do I think that it isn't Metal. I'm okay with bands like Darkest Hour and Shadows Fall... he just mostly listed crappy bands that are quite frankly for little girls. Such as yourself, I presume.

Nude_Dude

You get defensive too easily.

I forgot a couple and it is a LAME LIST?!

1. I thought SHGM just had some of the people from RX not all of 'em.

2. I chose songs that were the easiest to get into, so obviously they are going to be predictable. I wanted to choose "Mirror of Souls" or "I Am" for Theocracy but doubt people would want to sit through a 10 minute, let alone 22 minute song no matter how good they are.

3. I have no clue what "(sucks)" referes to and sweet how Pathfinder comin' out with a new album. Sonata Arctica is coming out with one too!

Hey, at least I didn't post any DrgaonForce, so lay off me man!

Hatiko

And the sucks part was referring to PS 3.

Didn't you hear? After DragonForce's newest album, they're not the worst power band anymore! Now they're considered class. Or something like that.

And the fact that I have yet to see Testament in anyone's list is kind of sad. Testament is what Metallica forgot to aspire to.

Apathetic_Prick

Hey, I was going to add Testament :P But I spent long enough on the list as it was.

[QUOTE="Apathetic_Prick"]

And the fact that I have yet to see Testament in anyone's list is kind of sad. Testament is what Metallica forgot to aspire to.

Celldrax

Hey, I was going to add Testament :P But I spent long enough on the list as it was.

• Slayer
• Metallica (1983-91)
• Megadeth
• Opeth
• Burzum
• Celtic Frost
• Sepultura
• Judas Priest
• Death
• Diamond Head
• Pantera

Testament is what Metallica forgot to aspire to.Apathetic_Prick

Oh some stuff that hasn't been mentioned (I think)

October Tide

While Heaven Wept

Tiamat

Solitude Aeturnus

Rigor Mortis

Novembers Doom

Necrophagist

My Dying Bride

Meshuggah

Malevolent Creation

King Diamond

Katatonia

Hypocrisy

Gorguts

Fen

Fates Warning

Entombed

Diabolical Masquerade

Dark f*cking Angel

Cynic

Candlemass

Bathory

Athiest

I haven't listen to metal in ages AussieePet

Problem solved.

[QUOTE="AussieePet"]I haven't listen to metal in ages LordQuorthon

Problem solved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM__lPTWThU

:3

Oh some stuff that hasn't been mentioned (I think)

October Tide

While Heaven Wept

Tiamat

Solitude Aeturnus

Rigor Mortis

Novembers Doom

Necrophagist

My Dying Bride

Meshuggah

Malevolent Creation

King Diamond

Katatonia

Hypocrisy

Gorguts

Fen

Fates Warning

Entombed

Diabolical Masquerade

Dark f*cking Angel

Cynic

Candlemass

Bathory

Athiest

SteverXIII

Nice list:D

Cynic's new album sucks pretty bad though :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM__lPTWThU

:3

Postmortem123

I'm more of a 70s Priest enthusiast, but sure, I don't see why not. :P

[QUOTE="AussieePet"]I haven't listen to metal in ages LordQuorthon

Problem solved.

That's not defense. It's called offense.Animatronic64

Pretty awesome is that your fav metal song? AussieePet

One of my personal top five easily.

Can we stop the arguing and just enjoy the music? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfgqWkgImq8

Can we stop the arguing and just enjoy the music? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfgqWkgImq8

SteverXIII

I really like Martin van Drunen era Pestilence. They went really damn quickly down the crapper once Mameli decided that they were going to show the world that they could play "Like, really complex stuff, bro... Whoah! Did you hear that time signature?"

[QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]

[QUOTE="AussieePet"]I haven't listen to metal in ages Postmortem123

Problem solved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM__lPTWThU

:3

Oh yeah!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=206m_H8GzmY

"Like, really complex stuff, bro... Whoah! Did you hear that time signature?"LordQuorthon

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"]That's not defense. It's called offense.Nude_Dude

I love old school, more straightforward Death metal, but tech death really is awesome.SteverXIII

For my ears, some bands can really pull it off, like Demilich and Gorguts. All this Necrophagist stuff I just don't enjoy. Even then, I can somewhat understand their appeal, but Patrick Mameli is just a wanker.

check out ensiferum. Ooooh that is some good stuff. dkdk999

I'll stick to what hasn't been mentioned in a haphazard order. Generally fast thrash/deathy stuff.

Pestilence

Strapping Young Lad

Morbid Angel

Anaal Nathrakh

Vital Remains

Vektor

Sodom

Destruction

Pig Destroyer

Napalm Death

Evile

Antichrist

The Berzerker

Cryptopsy

Cannabis Corpse

Artillery

Asphyx

Demolition Hammer

Warbringer

Nekromantheon

Death Angel

Exmortus

Havok

Emepror

Enslaved

Dismember

Skeletonwitch

Morbid Saint

Nocturnus

Aborted

Hexen

Overkill

Obscura

Mayhem

Krisiun

Immolation

Heathen

Evile

God Dethroned

Exhumed

Exodus

Celtic Frost

Bonded By Blood

Edit- Dying Fetus, Origin, Decrepit Birth and (almost certainly spelled incorrectly), Blasphemophagher

Well, usually, the little kid is really annoyed. I, on the other hand, feel pretty damn calm. But I can see through your words. You are tense. And I don't recall trying to defend my musical tastes, nor am I hating on any genre (besides Dubstep, of course - but that's another thread). And If you think my musical taste sucks, you're probably somewhat right. Never claimed to listen to quality music. My opinion on the bands that guy listed still stands. Miss May I... that's something 15 year old high school girl listens to. I hope my opinion doesn't get your panties into a bunch. Or perhaps... too late? :)Animatronic64

Can we stop the arguing and just enjoy the music? :)

SteverXIII

relax, I have no pants

[QUOTE="SteverXIII"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]I'll stick to what hasn't been mentioned in a haphazard order. Generally fast thrash/deathy stuff. Animatronic64

[QUOTE="dkdk999"]check out ensiferum. Ooooh that is some good stuff. Animatronic64

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="dkdk999"]check out ensiferum. Ooooh that is some good stuff. dkdk999

[QUOTE="Apathetic_Prick"]

That said, I agree with some of the angst raised about Dream Theater and Nightwish, not so much Sonata Arctica and other power metal bands. Dream Theater is hackneyed; they've been living off of their riffs from Scenes From a Memory by recycling the content into their new releases. And it's obvious! They don't even change the tempo. At least bands like ZZ Top try to do something different with their recycled riffs; what Dream Theater has done is lazy and inexcusable.

Nightwish is not metal anymore. Anyone who I have demoed their post-Tarja stuff too says it sounds like Abba or Ace of Base. And my friends aren't metal-heads. LordQuorthon

Notice how I didn't say anything bad or good about Dream Theater. I said they did not kick ass. Music can be good and not kick ass. I love Queen, and they rarely kicked ass. Pink Floyd are a gret band who didn't really kick ass.

Motorhead and Venom, like them or not, kick ass. That doesn't make them better or worse than Rush, for example, they just kick more ass, they rock harder, they are heavier, faster and more aggressive. That is not a prerequiste for being good, but it does help quite a lot if you want to play metal.

And don't disrespect the genuine power metal bands; they keep the classical side alive. The cornerstone of what metal has become today is not so much the blues that Sabbath started off with, but the classical that Judas Priest introduced - or the punk that Anthrax pushed - so to say that that doesn't kick ass is pure fallacy. But yes, post-Scenes From A Memory Dream Theater sucks and Nightwish is now just a pop-rock band. A symphonic one, but they don't qualify as metal. Sadly, while Tarja is still doing metal, it's this pretensious douchey baroque-classical-style sh*t. That doesn't fly; metal is a lot of the things, pretensious isn't one of them.Apathetic_Prick

When did I say that? Both Black Sabbath and Judas Priest are two of the very few true pillars of heavy metal. They are all kinds of awesome, they kick ass (they just happen to kick a little bit less ass than Motorhead) and I worship them. Now, you can't really compare Judas Priest to crap like Sonata Arctica and get away with it just like that. Helloween, Gamma Ray, Running Wild, all that good stuff, sure... But Sonata Arctica or Rhapsody? Yeah... No. Not a chance. Feel free to like them as much as you want, but going from Judast Priest to that stuff is quite a bith of a stretch, regardless of how much they claim Judas Priest influenced them

Then next time, say what you mean to say. No harm, no foul.

It's time to bring some good heavy music to this thread...

It's time to bring some good heavy music to this thread...

KHAndAnime

Good stuff.

Well damn your tastes in music have change a lot. o_Ochessmaster1989

I'm going to suggest some Chthonic and Obscura.

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

I forgot a couple and it is a LAME LIST?!

1. I thought SHGM just had some of the people from RX not all of 'em.

2. I chose songs that were the easiest to get into, so obviously they are going to be predictable. I wanted to choose "Mirror of Souls" or "I Am" for Theocracy but doubt people would want to sit through a 10 minute, let alone 22 minute song no matter how good they are.

3. I have no clue what "(sucks)" referes to and sweet how Pathfinder comin' out with a new album. Sonata Arctica is coming out with one too!

Hey, at least I didn't post any DrgaonForce, so lay off me man!

Nude_Dude

And the sucks part was referring to PS 3.

Didn't you hear? After DragonForce's newest album, they're not the worst power band anymore! Now they're considered class. Or something like that.

I can never tell when someone is joking but I had a hunch when you weny ALL CAPS.

DF has a new album that is considered good?

I still dont get what context you used "sucks" in. You just said "PS 3. (sucks) PATHFINDER NEW ALBUM!"

What about that is sucks? Or am I missing what "PS 3" means here.

It's time to bring some good heavy music to this thread...

KHAndAnime

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="dkdk999"]check out ensiferum. Ooooh that is some good stuff. dkdk999

[QUOTE="dkdk999"][QUOTE="Animatronic64"]Yes, especially the first two albums with Jari. rockguy92

[QUOTE="rockguy92"][QUOTE="dkdk999"] Eh I like all their albums. Man i'm excited for the next one. Animatronic64

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="rockguy92"] Wintersun's second album on the other hand... :Pdkdk999

Aluminum is harmless to the body.Fightingfan

[QUOTE="dkdk999"][QUOTE="Animatronic64"] Excited would be an understatement, and it's coming out this summer! The album is actually in two parts. Animatronic64

I'll stick to what hasn't been mentioned in a haphazard order. Generally fast thrash/deathy stuff.

Pestilence

Strapping Young Lad

Morbid Angel

Anaal Nathrakh

Vital Remains

Vektor

Sodom

Destruction

Pig Destroyer

Napalm Death

Evile

Antichrist

The Berzerker

Cryptopsy

Cannabis Corpse

Artillery

Asphyx

Demolition Hammer

Warbringer

Nekromantheon

Death Angel

Exmortus

Havok

Emepror

Enslaved

Dismember

Skeletonwitch

Morbid Saint

Nocturnus

Aborted

Hexen

Overkill

Obscura

Mayhem

Krisiun

Immolation

Heathen

Evile

God Dethroned

Exhumed

Exodus

Celtic Frost

Bonded By Blood

Edit- Dying Fetus, Origin, Decrepit Birth and (almost certainly spelled incorrectly), Blasphemophagher

Floppy_Jim

Needs more Incantation. o_O

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Well damn your tastes in music have change a lot. o_OZeviander

Heh fair point. But since I see it's missing from your list, you should check out Incantation. So good. Also some of my favorite vocals.

Also I'm a broken record in this thread with all my posts being about Incantation. o_O

Speaking of new albums, Testament's got one coming up in July of this year.