What's your thoughts on the new TOU?

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#901 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Yours wasn't bad at all.


TBH I thought for sure you would brush it off and come back.

cybrcatter

It was brushed off, but now you guys are coming over here. Two birds, one stone.

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#902 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Never figured out why you'd join that site....airshocker

To talk s***, basically. It was a good idea, get everyone from OT to come over so we can stop being passive aggressive towards each other.

Yet I still see some users posting passive aggressively after the ToU change...and so far they've all been TDH users.
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#903 horgen  Moderator
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[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]

@Horgen, yes I believe that was how you spell it.

Baconbits2004

Seems like they have changed the effects of banning someone... His blogs doesn't show up on TV.com either.

That's too bad. :[

I think some of his blogs might have been purged, if that has somehting to do with it... he was a little into the furries, and certainly didn't care who knew!

Could always try the other sites too... Or google.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Never figured out why you'd join that site....airshocker

To talk s***, basically. It was a good idea, get everyone from OT to come over so we can stop being passive aggressive towards each other.

You "think" most everyone dislikes you there. ...not the case at all. Most people have expressed either not minding you or apathy. People just called you out on some of the uneducated opinions you have had (and admitted to).
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@missL I think my opinion of him should be obvious to you. You are smart enough to gather that much. This seems like a case of you wanting me to say it just to say it. Fine: TBH I thought him to be just another sad child among the many here on GS = not really fair to mess with Then I found out he was an adult and a military vet = all bets are off (you are an adult and at least have the cognitive functioning to get into the military) I enjoy messing with people...you know this It was quite easy given his black and white stance on the world, his GS obsessions, etc As for the 'why' I found it humorous for a grown ass man and military vet to care so deeply for a GS level...to not be able to handle himself in even the simplest of debates...to have to resort to 'tattling'...to take things to AtM constantly b/c he was unable to cope on his own...that it freaked him out b/c people tracked his private account (it was private before anything TDH related) I enjoy poking people in the ribs and watching someone troll themselves. Tops and Mailer (both grown people) provide the perfect examples of how not to deal with situations like thisrawsavon

My point in all of this is not to understand the situation (though, thank you for the compliment, I am intelligent enough and - more importantly nosy enough - to have tried to garner as much of an understanding as I can although I'll be the first to admit I know very little aside from major points that have happened).

This is not about 'me' but rather me belief that it is important to quite a few people (and one particular person in this instance) that you are honest and face the music like everyone else. Following targeted trolling some users like Topsemag and Mailer, and even LJ to an extent, can hardly be in a particularly fair position to utilise OT's new ability to question your actions if every statement they make will be lost in blanketed derision. Hopefully someone is reading these admissions from you who needs to hear them more than I do.

You and I share a more honest history of sorts so I hoped I could question you fairly without fear of being instantly dismissed. Though I will try to keep my posts short (pfffffft).

In response: What you are basically saying is that - aside from the root of your trolling these people being down to a search for amusement in the course of the daily work grind, a general daily activity that I can hardly condemn though I wouldn't go to such extreme lengths personally, either way it's not the important point here - you chose Topsemag as a target because out of the wide choice of everyday 'well-known' individuals here he in particular caught your attention because of the way he happens to do things in particular.

His stricter outlook, his investing time in leveling up, his inclination to take it to the mods and admins rather than joining in the ToU dance that others (myself included of course) preferred to partake in... They not even annoying personal traits like you find in blantant newbish and bad trollers, they're more tied in to his chosen way of using GS to pass the time. But how is that any different from you doing silly petty things in order to pass time also? His actions might be different from yours but that doesn't mean that you're not both guilty of it.

I'll admit that when it comes to leveling I did wonder why Topsemag was so into it myself at times, though certainly not in the same sort of derisive way, and I'll be the first to admit my conduct concerning him has not always been innocent troll-wise - the truth of which Topse knows in full and also, in a random twist, does cybrcatter of course to some extent. However I had only to share a few PMs with him before I fully understood where he is coming from, why he chooses to do things the way he does, and why he bothers with learning about GS leveling. It wasn't exactly hard and knowing your interest in psychology and anthropology I am sure you would have easily cottoned on to if only you had taken the time to find out.

The way that you fed on his desire to just stay away from you guys really is distasteful in my eyes, the more he relied on his particular way of dealing with things the more you goaded and baited him, and having a force of 30 or more users again just one like Topsemag is obviously unfair even to a brutish sports fan like you, surely.

You are always pulling your ersatz innocence routine and claiming deniability because of this or that technicality, and mostly post-by-post I have been more amused than offended by it I admit, but when you denied blatant actions like ordering TDH to track Topse it really did lower you in my estimation, I am sorry to say.

Did you really think that someone like Topsemag could fairly argue his case when bound by the strict ToU? Do you even have even the smallest understanding of what you are even doing most of the time? There was always going to come a time when you'd have to admit your actions and due to my wordsmithing freedom unleashed by your new ToU (thanks for fighting the good fight, btw) that time is now.

Are you willing to be honest and admit here and now all of the things TDH did to Topsemag? Tracking and that Dave's guy's involvement included, I want to know it all. I would ask you to be completely honest about all of the users you have cruelly focused on but even I would admit that could grow tedious.

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#906 TwoFace-BS
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Never figured out why you'd join that site....LJS9502_basic

To talk s***, basically. It was a good idea, get everyone from OT to come over so we can stop being passive aggressive towards each other.

Yet I still see some users posting passive aggressively after the ToU change...and so far they've all been TDH users.

We need a proper war of words to deal with this now between the two groups
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#907 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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You "think" most everyone dislikes you there. ...not the case at all. Most people have expressed either not minding you or apathy. People just called you out on some of the uneducated opinions you have had (and admitted to).rawsavon

No I don't, not anymore.

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#908 coolbeans90
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I can't tell if that was written the rant generator site or not.

@ librarian

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#909 cybrcatter
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rofl, missL.
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#910 Necrifer
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We need a proper war of words to deal with this now between the two groups

TwoFace-BS

Who's going to start it off?

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#911 Dylan_11
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[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]

Oh, misinterpreted that completely. Apologies. Still love you though.

BranKetra

No problem and thanks.

vfdb

:(

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#912 TwoFace-BS
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[QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"]

We need a proper war of words to deal with this now between the two groups

Necrifer

Who's going to start it off?

TDH if the banned users are allowed to return to GS Im calling it now
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#913 DroidPhysX
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I can't tell if that was written the rant generator site or not.

@ librarian

coolbeans90
I actually thought it was a generated rant when I scrolled down.
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#914 Necrifer
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vfdb

:(

Dylan_11

Yeah, that's just mean.

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#915 TwoFace-BS
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MissLibarian = OTs moral compass
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#916 cybrcatter
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Never figured out why you'd join that site....LJS9502_basic

To talk s***, basically. It was a good idea, get everyone from OT to come over so we can stop being passive aggressive towards each other.

Yet I still see some users posting passive aggressively after the ToU change...and so far they've all been TDH users.

I know.

Those TDHers just don't know how to let things go.

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#917 horgen  Moderator
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[QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"] We need a proper war of words to deal with this now between the two groups

Or keep two sites separated.
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#918 Dylan_11
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[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]

vfdb

:(

Necrifer

Yeah, that's just mean.

Right? Not even a pity kiss on the cheek. I feel used.

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#919 LJS9502_basic
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I can't tell if that was written the rant generator site or not.

@ librarian

coolbeans90
I enjoy her posts...she's intelligent and she doesn't try to curry favor. One of the more honest users I've seen here....
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#920 TwoFace-BS
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[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"] We need a proper war of words to deal with this now between the two groups

Or keep two sites separated.

Nah,GS wants more activity in the forums,why do you think the TOU changed and they are considering bringing banned users back?
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#921 Dylan_11
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I can't tell if that was written the rant generator site or not.

@ librarian

LJS9502_basic
I enjoy her posts...she's intelligent and she doesn't try to curry favor. One of the more honest users I've seen here....

MissL is good people.
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#922 rawsavon
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@missL To be clear... Are you asking me to take responsibility for my own actions or that of an entire site...a site that contains several different groups...a site that contains people (like anywhere) that I don't care for? To the former, yes. I have messed with several people on GS (tops included). I will always do so. Am I sorry for it...nope. Could there be a case where I was...sure. Did I enjoy/laugh at the shenanigans that many did...yes. (though I fail to see any 'blame' there unless you believe it is one's duty to stop an injustice) To later, I don't agree. What people do on the internet is not my concern. I will laugh at what I think it funny I will say what I think is boring I will say what I think it wrong...which I have done (this not being one of those cases) TDH is not some group that follows what I say
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[QUOTE="cybrcatter"]

Yours wasn't bad at all.


TBH I thought for sure you would brush it off and come back.

airshocker

It was brushed off, but now you guys are coming over here. Two birds, one stone.

I wish we could quit you [spoiler] I don't actually wish that [/spoiler]
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#924 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I can't tell if that was written the rant generator site or not.

@ librarian

LJS9502_basic

I enjoy her posts...she's intelligent and she doesn't try to curry favor. One of the more honest users I've seen here....

Don't get me wrong - good user. Just am surprised at the length of her post.

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#925 rawsavon
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No I don't, not anymore.

airshocker

that's good to hear (no sarcasm)

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#926 horgen  Moderator
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[QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"] Nah,GS wants more activity in the forums,why do you think the TOU changed and they are considering bringing banned users back?

Tou changes had to do with the polling that was done earlier this year, wasn't it?
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#927 TwoFace-BS
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[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"] Nah,GS wants more activity in the forums,why do you think the TOU changed and they are considering bringing banned users back?

Tou changes had to do with the polling that was done earlier this year, wasn't it?

What do you think that was for?
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#928 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"] Nah,GS wants more activity in the forums,why do you think the TOU changed and they are considering bringing banned users back?

Tou changes had to do with the polling that was done earlier this year, wasn't it?

stop using logic horgen. it is far easier to blame the boogie man
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I wish we could quit you. I don't actually wish thatxaos

:( I already used my killing myself GIF today. Have to use it sparingly, you understand.

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#930 Optical_Order
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[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"] Nah,GS wants more activity in the forums,why do you think the TOU changed and they are considering bringing banned users back?rawsavon
Tou changes had to do with the polling that was done earlier this year, wasn't it?

stop using logic horgen. it is far easier to blame the boogie man

I think both are correct.

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#931 Just-Breathe
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Always remember, the internet is serious f*cking business

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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="horgen123"] Tou changes had to do with the polling that was done earlier this year, wasn't it? Optical_Order

stop using logic horgen. it is far easier to blame the boogie man

I think both are correct.

they ALWAYS want more traffic (it is a business) ...so that is a given
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#933 horgen  Moderator
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"] stop using logic horgen. it is far easier to blame the boogie man

I leave logic outside if I visit System Wars... OT deserves a little logic, or do you disagree?
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#934 rawsavon
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OT deserves a little logic, or do you disagree? horgen123
both logic and and a lack there of can be humorous... see the contrast b/w missL and BigRed/BRHD
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#935 Baconbits2004
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the boogie manrawsavon

Speaking of... if we all get together and say we don't believe in the Rawvolution, will it go away?

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#936 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]the boogie manBaconbits2004

Speaking of... if we all get together and say we don't believe in the Rawvolution, will it go away?

...it already did :(
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[QUOTE="horgen123"]OT deserves a little logic, or do you disagree? rawsavon
both logic and and a lack there of can be humorous... see the contrast b/w missL and BigRed/BRHD

Logic has got to be one of the most overused words here on OT.
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[QUOTE="horgen123"]OT deserves a little logic, or do you disagree? rawsavon
both logic and and a lack there of can be humorous... see the contrast b/w missL and BigRed/BRHD

They followed a logic, it is just very different for us. :P
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="horgen123"]OT deserves a little logic, or do you disagree? Diophage
both logic and and a lack there of can be humorous... see the contrast b/w missL and BigRed/BRHD

Logic has got to be one of the most overused words here on OT.

right after the front-runners of 'meh', 'subjective', 'generalization', and 'straw-man'
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="horgen123"]OT deserves a little logic, or do you disagree? Diophage
both logic and and a lack there of can be humorous... see the contrast b/w missL and BigRed/BRHD

Logic has got to be one of the most overused words here on OT.

and yet I dont see it enough
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#941 Baconbits2004
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[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]the boogie manrawsavon

Speaking of... if we all get together and say we don't believe in the Rawvolution, will it go away?

...it already did :(

Well, now I feel bad. ;[

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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Diophage"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] both logic and and a lack there of can be humorous... see the contrast b/w missL and BigRed/BRHD

Logic has got to be one of the most overused words here on OT.

right after the front-runners of 'meh',

Annoying thing is I was using meh in posts before everyone else was:x
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#943 Baconbits2004
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Kind of.
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#944 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I can't tell if that was written the rant generator site or not.

@ librarian

coolbeans90

I enjoy her posts...she's intelligent and she doesn't try to curry favor. One of the more honest users I've seen here....

Don't get me wrong - good user. Just am surprised at the length of her post.

She does do that occasionally....:lol:
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I enjoy her posts...she's intelligent and she doesn't try to curry favor. One of the more honest users I've seen here....LJS9502_basic

Don't get me wrong - good user. Just am surprised at the length of her post.

She does do that occasionally....:lol:

Well she is a woman............:P
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@missL To be clear... Are you asking me to take responsibility for my own actions or that of an entire site...a site that contains several different groups...a site that contains people (like anywhere) that I don't care for? To the former, yes. I have messed with several people on GS (tops included). I will always do so. Am I sorry for it...nope. Could there be a case where I was...sure. Did I enjoy/laugh at the shenanigans that many did...yes. (though I fail to see any 'blame' there unless you believe it is one's duty to stop an injustice) To later, I don't agree. What people do on the internet is not my concern. I will laugh at what I think it funny I will say what I think is boring I will say what I think it wrong...which I have done (this not being one of those cases) TDH is not some group that follows what I sayrawsavon

Nope. I don't want any sort of justification from you, especially regarding whether you're sorry or not, all I want from you at this point is to be honest and admit to various actions you are responsible for. If you're not going to give my post any sort of proper consideration and just back into your defensive reasoning corner I can hardly expect you to cooperate however.

What I'm actually asking for is for you to tell me what sort of things TDH did to Topse. I want to hear them from your own mouth - so to speak - right here so Topse can see them too if he's reading. Whether or not you were directly responsible is a moot point. It's just, as an admin of the sight and prominent user there, I am pretty sure you know quite well of the goings on there the past year or so.

And you say TDH is not a group that follows what you say but I know I have seen a indisputable example of such a thing, a TDH commandment shall we say, you wouldn't continue to deny that such threads have existed in the past?

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[QUOTE="xaos"]I wish we could quit you. I don't actually wish thatairshocker

:( I already used my killing myself GIF today. Have to use it sparingly, you understand.

As I said elsewhere, you have so much to live for!
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What did we do to Topsemag again?
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What did we do to Topsemag again?Dylan_11
Trolled him relentlessly.....
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What did we do to Topsemag again?

Dylan_11

He was invaded.