What's your thoughts on the new TOU?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Pretty sure you do if you're willing to swear at me about it.

Not really making it a goal to flatter myself.

I just made a funny remark and you got all bent out of shape over it.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Pretty sure you do if you're willing to swear at me about it.

THE_DRUGGIE

Not really making it a goal to flatter myself.

I just made a funny remark and you got all bent out of shape over it.

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I do swear....don't flatter yourself.:lol:Frame_Dragger

Not really making it a goal to flatter myself.

I just made a funny remark and you got all bent out of shape over it.

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I do swear....don't flatter yourself.:lol:LJS9502_basic

Not really making it a goal to flatter myself.

I just made a funny remark and you got all bent out of shape over it.

edit: Yeah, it's just a further sign of my unhealthy obsession, but since you're having so much fun I figured I couldn't abandon you! :)

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Not really making it a goal to flatter myself.

I just made a funny remark and you got all bent out of shape over it.

Frame_Dragger

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I do swear....don't flatter yourself.:lol:LJS9502_basic

Not really making it a goal to flatter myself.

I just made a funny remark and you got all bent out of shape over it.

Swearing is indicative of that.

Not to mention the manner it was said was rude.

So yes, I'm certain you're a tad frustrated right now.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="solidruss"]

But rules have been relaxed, so it's not the same at all

cybrcatter

The rules have been relaxed, but people who didn't break the rules previously are, more or less, posting the same level of stuff, albeit being slightly less subtle. Same content, slightly altered presentation by some users. Basically, people don't change.

Seconded on the need for an ignore feature.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Not really making it a goal to flatter myself.

I just made a funny remark and you got all bent out of shape over it.

THE_DRUGGIE

Swearing is indicative of that.

Not to mention the manner it was said was rude.

So yes, I'm certain you're a tad frustrated right now.

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I wasn't bent out of shape....just made a general observation. Am I supposed to get upset what someone on a forum says?LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="cybrcatter"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

The rules have been relaxed, but people who didn't break the rules previously are, more or less, posting the same level of stuff, albeit being slightly less subtle. Same content, slightly altered presentation by some users. Basically, people don't change.

nocoolnamejim

Seconded on the need for an ignore feature.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] Definitely not, but despite your claims to the contrary, it seems to be what you do. :(Frame_Dragger

[QUOTE="cybrcatter"]

Perhaps we should also make an effort to bring the lurkers out of their shells.

wizzardjeff

[QUOTE="cybrcatter"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

The rules have been relaxed, but people who didn't break the rules previously are, more or less, posting the same level of stuff, albeit being slightly less subtle. Same content, slightly altered presentation by some users. Basically, people don't change.

nocoolnamejim

Seconded on the need for an ignore feature.

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Then you are terrible at reading people.;)

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]

[QUOTE="cybrcatter"]So you're saying we need new blood and an ignore feature.

Definitely an ignore feature.

Perhaps we should also make an effort to bring the lurkers out of their shells.

LJS9502_basic

Seconded on the need for an ignore feature.

Not really sure, but it's a good question. A mod's role will definitely need to change going forward and what determines a "good" mod and an "active" mod will need to change with it.

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I wasn't bent out of shape....just made a general observation. Am I supposed to get upset what someone on a forum says?LJS9502_basic

Swearing is indicative of that.

Not to mention the manner it was said was rude.

So yes, I'm certain you're a tad frustrated right now.

I think you just need to take a little time off from here if you're that quick to snap on people, even when you're in a good mood.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]

Seconded on the need for an ignore feature.

Not really sure, but it's a good question. A mod's role will definitely need to change going forward and what determines a "good" mod and an "active" mod will need to change with it.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] So how many mods are going to be let go since they don't need many now?

Not really sure, but it's a good question. A mod's role will definitely need to change going forward and what determines a "good" mod and an "active" mod will need to change with it.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] So how many mods are going to be let go since they don't need many now?

Not really sure, but it's a good question. A mod's role will definitely need to change going forward and what determines a "good" mod and an "active" mod will need to change with it.

Too bad Topse had to leave a day early.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Swearing is indicative of that.

Not to mention the manner it was said was rude.

So yes, I'm certain you're a tad frustrated right now.

THE_DRUGGIE

I think you just need to take a little time off from here if you're that quick to snap on people, even when you're in a good mood.

Too bad Topse had to leave a day early.

DroidPhysX

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Too bad Topse had to leave a day early.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="the_plan_man"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]

Not really sure, but it's a good question. A mod's role will definitely need to change going forward and what determines a "good" mod and an "active" mod will need to change with it.

chaoscougar1

truthfully, i think that they were a big step in the wrong direction for gamespot, i definately believe the people who said "we need lighter rules" were the ones who got moderated constantly, which i do think wasnt that many people really, i dont know the numberrs behind it and never will but im just gonna say that the new TOU were for the worst, they allow people to get away with trolling and flaming now and i think thats not right

[QUOTE="the_plan_man"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]

Not really sure, but it's a good question. A mod's role will definitely need to change going forward and what determines a "good" mod and an "active" mod will need to change with it.

chaoscougar1

I'm going to see how things get going. It'll most likely be like watching Two and a Half Men with Ashton Kutcher instead of Charlie Sheen... it just won't be the same.

Giant bomb. Explination?I know about the site and stuff , I am just wondering about the forums. Are they bad?Charazani

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] So how many mods are going to be let go since they don't need many now?

the_plan_man

Not really sure, but it's a good question. A mod's role will definitely need to change going forward and what determines a "good" mod and an "active" mod will need to change with it.

Give it time to settle a bit and you might be surprised. For me personally, I'm seeing the role of a mod going forward to be less "forum nanny" and more "forum guide". As in, it's no longer our role to be an invisible "big brother" type policeman peeking over everyone's shoulders and intervening in every little fight like the one going on in this thread, but the role of trying to emphasize and encourage positive traits/contributions is probably going to get extra nudging. Less punishing bad behavior, more highlighting and rewarding the good.

Right now everyone, mods included, are figuring things out and, to be honest, stretching our wings a little bit and enjoying the new freedom. Doesn't mean that things won't settle down a little bit after people get a little more accustomed and comfortable with things.

An example is swearing. Someone who deploys a swear word here and there for emphasis tends to get attention and make people sit up and listen when they do because they value the rarity. Someone who does it constantly like a 13 year old on Xbox Live playing Halo just gets people rolling their eyes and socially ostracized.

The same will happen with other things like flaming and trolling. Someone who is well-behaved and civil most of the time who occassionally just sets that aside and says, "Look, you're an idiot and the point you're making is a facile one. Kindly STFU and go educate yourself because I'm not here to write a effing book report for you." is going to be more impactful than someone who is just plain mean and nasty all the time and never makes any effort to debate something reasonably and uses bluntness and flaming as a first instead of a last resort.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Too bad Topse had to leave a day early.

chaoscougar1

truthfully, i think that they were a big step in the wrong direction for gamespot, i definately believe the people who said "we need lighter rules" were the ones who got moderated constantly, which i do think wasnt that many people really, i dont know the numberrs behind it and never will but im just gonna say that the new TOU were for the worst, they allow people to get away with trolling and flaming now and i think thats not right

linkin_guy109

Giant bomb. Explination?I know about the site and stuff , I am just wondering about the forums. Are they bad?Charazani

So far I havent noticed that much of a change in OT, but I'm often on the sidelines so maybe my perspective is different.

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Well I'm not....not in the least. Done work...having a beer and relaxing. I'm off tomorrow. Actually I'm quite happy. It was just a general comment....didn't mean to hurt your feelings. LJS9502_basic

I think you just need to take a little time off from here if you're that quick to snap on people, even when you're in a good mood.

We've been talking for the last page or so.

[QUOTE="Charazani"]Giant bomb. Explination?I know about the site and stuff , I am just wondering about the forums. Are they bad?LJS9502_basic

As in, it's no longer our role to be an invisible "big brother" type policeman peeking over everyone's shoulders and intervening in every little fight like the one going on in this thread,

nocoolnamejim

truthfully, i think that they were a big step in the wrong direction for gamespot, i definately believe the people who said "we need lighter rules" were the ones who got moderated constantly, which i do think wasnt that many people really, i dont know the numberrs behind it and never will but im just gonna say that the new TOU were for the worst, they allow people to get away with trolling and flaming now and i think thats not right

So far I havent noticed that much of a change in OT, but I'm often on the sidelines so maybe my perspective is different.

sonicare

I've said essentially the same thing earlier ITT.

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="the_plan_man"] While your at it, you guys might as well change the name of this website to "Giant Bomb 2." Because, it's looking a lot more like that than the Gamespot I knew and loved. :(LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

I think you just need to take a little time off from here if you're that quick to snap on people, even when you're in a good mood.

THE_DRUGGIE

We've been talking for the last page or so.

Well, GS was extremely dull beforehand so this new ToU will bring a bit more life to this place, whether it be in good ways or not so good ways.

Perhaps we should also make an effort to bring the lurkers out of their shells.

cybrcatter

I'd say the new ToU is by and large a good thing. If SW is any indication it'll probably be a rough couple of weeks for OT (especially if people latch onto "dumbass" as their insult of choice like the tw*ts in SW), but at the end of the day having the freedom to have fun and/or call people out on their bullsh*t without risk of moderation is going to be a big improvement. At the end of the day if you really needed the protection of the old ToU to be able to post here, you might want to have a good, long think about why you were posting here in the first place.

over/under how many weeks it takes for OT to make admins to revert to old ToU.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]

As in, it's no longer our role to be an invisible "big brother" type policeman peeking over everyone's shoulders and intervening in every little fight like the one going on in this thread,

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You snapped. Maybe you should take the time off. I wasn't even conversing with you.LJS9502_basic

We've been talking for the last page or so.

Hey, I'm just wondering why you're acting this way toward me, don't be so condescending about it.

[QUOTE="cybrcatter"]

Perhaps we should also make an effort to bring the lurkers out of their shells.

Slow_Show

I'd say the new ToU is by and large a good thing. If SW is any indication it'll probably be a rough couple of weeks for OT (especially if people latch onto "dumbass" as their insult of choice like the tw*ts in SW), but at the end of the day having the freedom to have fun and/or call people out on their bullsh*t without risk of moderation is going to be a big improvement. At the end of the day if you really needed the protection of the old ToU to be able to post here, you might want to have a good, long think about why you were posting here in the first place.

Pretty much how I feel.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]

As in, it's no longer our role to be an invisible "big brother" type policeman peeking over everyone's shoulders and intervening in every little fight like the one going on in this thread,

LJS9502_basic

Feel free to swap in a different word choice if you feel the word "fight" is a little imprecise or inaccurate. The point is that whatever you call it, for the most part it isn't really a moderator's problem any longer. People are to learn to either:

A. Get along

B. Leave each other alone or

C. Take care of themselves

Personally my preference is some combination of trying to find common ground where possible and avoiding (or ignoring) when you must, but either way is preferable to before where most of what you see happening around the forum lately was always there just not as out in the open. Coolbeans does have a point in that a lot of what is CURRENTLY happening isn't exactly new, it's just no longer quite as subtle or disguised and the mods are out of being in the middle of it and hated by everyone.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

We've been talking for the last page or so.

THE_DRUGGIE

Hey, I'm just wondering why you're acting this way toward me, don't be so condescending about it.

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] What? I told you it was a common sentence. I do use specific words sometimes for emphasis...yes. And the F word is my favorite. Didn't know someone of your personality would get so offended by it. But I'll notate that next to your name for future reference. Happy?LJS9502_basic

Hey, I'm just wondering why you're acting this way toward me, don't be so condescending about it.

Saying you'll notate that next to a list of users you keep and then asking if I'm happy about that says otherwise.