When America Eventually Falls..

America is too big to fall.

America falls China falls, and if China falls the entire western world falls.

America would bomb anyone who threatens its current position. Not into conspiracy theories, but ever notice anyone who tries to get rid of the petrodollar their country gets bombed and they get murdered?

hopefully the US attains technocracy and doesn't fall.

if anything we are going to have another civil type war withing our borders. could be as soon as Obamacare kicks in..ALONG with the government trying to take our gun rights..I wont support the government..I'll fight them even if it means i die.

if anything we are going to have another civil type war withing our borders. could be as soon as Obamacare kicks in..ALONG with the government trying to take our gun rights..I wont support the government..I'll fight them even if it means i die.

VanDammFan

no we wont

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if anything we are going to have another civil type war withing our borders. could be as soon as Obamacare kicks in..ALONG with the government trying to take our gun rights..I wont support the government..I'll fight them even if it means i die.

lostrib

no we wont

yes we will

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

if anything we are going to have another civil type war withing our borders. could be as soon as Obamacare kicks in..ALONG with the government trying to take our gun rights..I wont support the government..I'll fight them even if it means i die.

lostrib

no we wont

you kidding me, once all these low per capita income southern states start getting cheaper or even free healthcare... what choice do they have but to rise up? Its our right as americans to goto the ER and file for bankruptcy after being treated, and thats a right worth dying for.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

The US was born in blood.  It will go out the same way.  

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

The US was born in blood.  It will go out the same way.  

josephl64

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Doubt that will happen...it's not like back in the day when countries expanded way too much and caused problems at home.black_chamber99

what? have you ever heard of the military-industrial complex? how america spends an exorbitant amount of money establishing miliarty bases all over the world?

America isn't an Empire.

[QUOTE="black_chamber99"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Doubt that will happen...it's not like back in the day when countries expanded way too much and caused problems at home.Toxic-Seahorse

what? have you ever heard of the military-industrial complex? how america spends an exorbitant amount of money establishing miliarty bases all over the world?

That's true. We do have some island territories such as Puerto Rico, Guam, and American Samoa. But, their populations seem content to stay under US rule rather than become independent countries. 

[QUOTE="black_chamber99"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Doubt that will happen...it's not like back in the day when countries expanded way too much and caused problems at home.Toxic-Seahorse

what? have you ever heard of the military-industrial complex? how america spends an exorbitant amount of money establishing miliarty bases all over the world?

I know its not the same but think about this. there are approximately 192 countries. there are 737 US military bases around the world (this is just how many they admit to and doesn't take into account the many black sites they have scattered around). from an active-duty force of 1.4 million soldiers, the US has deployed some 350,000 to at least 130 foriegn countries. no country in the history of the world has ever had a global presence like this. and that stretch of land where bases are set up is american land. america basically strong-armed japan after the war to give them a big chunk of okinawa, and now they want more to build new developments (hence all the controversies currently going on down there). having a military presence like this in every country is a middle finger and shows you who's boss. they may not be completely taking over and governing the people, but its a subtle form of expansion.

america is ready to go to war anytime, anywhere, with anyone.

Slow economic collapse while another power rises, resulting in many years of bleak civillian prospects, under the shadow of a different dominent world power.

Slow economic collapse while another power rises, resulting in many years of bleak civillian prospects, under the shadow of a different dominent world power.

MissLibrarian

I dont know, but you better hope it doesnt happen, cuz you can bet the next "Empire" is going to be much, much, much worse than the US.

china will buyout america's resources and intergrity n make em into a puppet state, mwahahaha!! you reap what you sow, america!

I can see america going out with a war

black_chamber99

china will buyout america's resources and intergrity n make em into a puppet state, mwahahaha!! you reap what you sow, america!

rocinante_

what country are you from?

I think USA's influence will wither in the future,and china will be the dominant nation.

[QUOTE="rocinante_"]

china will buyout america's resources and intergrity n make em into a puppet state, mwahahaha!! you reap what you sow, america!

black_chamber99

what country are you from?

not the us, but like the us and completely different

[QUOTE="black_chamber99"]

[QUOTE="rocinante_"]

china will buyout america's resources and intergrity n make em into a puppet state, mwahahaha!! you reap what you sow, america!

rocinante_

what country are you from?

not the us, but like the us and completely different

so you're from canada huh?

so are canadians in general already groveling at the feet of their new chinese overlords or is it just you?

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="AbstractRadical"]We will never fall.lostrib

hitler also started a two front war and attacked russia during the winter

[QUOTE="rocinante_"]

[QUOTE="black_chamber99"]

 

what country are you from?

black_chamber99

not the us, but like the us and completely different

so you're from canada huh?

so are canadians in general already groveling at the feet of their new chinese overlords or is it just you?

nah, we don't like em. we even took em off our money

I want the US to decline and lose its influence so China can become the next superpower. Thought we were bad? You're all in for a treat.

so are canadians in general already groveling at the feet of their new chinese overlords or is it just you?black_chamber99

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="black_chamber99"]

 

what? have you ever heard of the military-industrial complex? how america spends an exorbitant amount of money establishing miliarty bases all over the world?

 

black_chamber99

I know its not the same but think about this. there are approximately 192 countries. there are 737 US military bases around the world (this is just how many they admit to and doesn't take into account the many black sites they have scattered around). from an active-duty force of 1.4 million soldiers, the US has deployed some 350,000 to at least 130 foriegn countries. no country in the history of the world has ever had a global presence like this. and that stretch of land where bases are set up is american land. america basically strong-armed japan after the war to give them a big chunk of okinawa, and now they want more to build new developments (hence all the controversies currently going on down there). having a military presence like this in every country is a middle finger and shows you who's boss. they may not be completely taking over and governing the people, but its a subtle form of expansion.

america is ready to go to war anytime, anywhere, with anyone.

You just really want to say the US is gonna go to war.  Times have changed.  Powers don't expand or collapse like they used to and no one is ready to go to war anytime, anywhere, with anyone.  The US's role will diminish slightly, but there probably won't be a full collapse and they'll probably stay influential.  The way you're looking at things doesn't make sense in modern times.

The most powerful ppl in America are the most stupid and dumb.

If it gets twice as worse, I'd be so ashamed that I'd just move to Aussie or Canada.

The most powerful ppl in America are the most stupid and dumb.

If it gets twice as worse, I'd be so ashamed that I'd just move to Aussie or Canada.

Hakumen21

[QUOTE="Hakumen21"]

The most powerful ppl in America are the most stupid and dumb.

If it gets twice as worse, I'd be so ashamed that I'd just move to Aussie or Canada.

LJS9502_basic

I doubt most countries in 100-200 years will exist in the same form they do now. All countries change shape (physically)one way or another. [QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="sune_Gem"]

Not every empire is Rome.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Hakumen21"]

The most powerful ppl in America are the most stupid and dumb.

If it gets twice as worse, I'd be so ashamed that I'd just move to Aussie or Canada.

Hakumen21

[QUOTE="rocinante_"]

[QUOTE="black_chamber99"]

 

what country are you from?

black_chamber99

not the us, but like the us and completely different

so you're from canada huh?

so are canadians in general already groveling at the feet of their new chinese overlords or is it just you?

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="black_chamber99"]

 

what? have you ever heard of the military-industrial complex? how america spends an exorbitant amount of money establishing miliarty bases all over the world?

 

black_chamber99

I know its not the same but think about this. there are approximately 192 countries. there are 737 US military bases around the world (this is just how many they admit to and doesn't take into account the many black sites they have scattered around). from an active-duty force of 1.4 million soldiers, the US has deployed some 350,000 to at least 130 foriegn countries. no country in the history of the world has ever had a global presence like this. and that stretch of land where bases are set up is american land. america basically strong-armed japan after the war to give them a big chunk of okinawa, and now they want more to build new developments (hence all the controversies currently going on down there). having a military presence like this in every country is a middle finger and shows you who's boss. they may not be completely taking over and governing the people, but its a subtle form of expansion.

america is ready to go to war anytime, anywhere, with anyone.

[QUOTE="black_chamber99"]

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"] Having a military base isn't the same as governing a distant foreign people.Hexagon_777

I know its not the same but think about this. there are approximately 192 countries. there are 737 US military bases around the world (this is just how many they admit to and doesn't take into account the many black sites they have scattered around). from an active-duty force of 1.4 million soldiers, the US has deployed some 350,000 to at least 130 foriegn countries. no country in the history of the world has ever had a global presence like this. and that stretch of land where bases are set up is american land. america basically strong-armed japan after the war to give them a big chunk of okinawa, and now they want more to build new developments (hence all the controversies currently going on down there). having a military presence like this in every country is a middle finger and shows you who's boss. they may not be completely taking over and governing the people, but its a subtle form of expansion.

america is ready to go to war anytime, anywhere, with anyone.

they wanted to build a new airstrip in okinawa but there's been a LOT of pushback by the locals. i'm not sure if its still going down as planned. in 2010 there was a rally with over 90,000 protestors objecting to this

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2011/06/201162116298199142.html

http://resources.primarysource.org/content.php?pid=151426&sid=1285290

they wanted to build a new airstrip in okinawa but there's been a LOT of pushback by the locals. i'm not sure if its still going down as planned. in 2010 there was a rally with over 90,000 protestors objecting to this

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2011/06/201162116298199142.html

 

http://resources.primarysource.org/content.php?pid=151426&sid=1285290

black_chamber99

It seems to me the purpose of the new airstrip is to provide some elbow room between nearby towns and the base. The GIs leave the old base and move to the new one. The Japanese are strict when it comes to noise pollution, especially at night. I imagine US aircraft have problems trying to fly at night because of noise pollution laws. Having the base at the newer isolated site would allow night operations.

These protests come and go. When there's nothing going on, the Japanese stage their usual protests. Yet, the moment there's tensions with North Korea or China, the protests disappear.

I'm sure many of those who protested back in 2010 are Japanese who are genuinely disgusted with the US presence. But, I'd bet they also included a bunch of treehuggers and even locals employed in the base. Moving the base meant the employees losing their jobs or having a long-ass drive to work.

it won't fall. my lapdog pm would just allow canada to be annexed into 'murica.

edit: the fuk is wrong with embedding videos these days?

all great empires have to fall eventually

black_chamber99

it won't fall. my lapdog pm would just allow canada to be annexed into 'murica.

edit: the fuk is wrong with embedding videos these days?

Jimn_tonic

[QUOTE="black_chamber99"]
all great empires have to fall eventually

BuryMe

god, shut up

In an age of democracy and capitalism I doubt the states will fall. They no empire though

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Doubt that will happen...it's not like back in the day when countries expanded way too much and caused problems at home.black_chamber99

what? have you ever heard of the military-industrial complex? how america spends an exorbitant amount of money establishing miliarty bases all over the world?