But Osama Bin Ladin is hiding in Arabia and if we find him there will be no more terrorisms except maybe from Japans.
nick3333
Ah, of course. Kill one man (who is probably already dead), and end all ideological conflicts, forever. Brilliant!
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But Osama Bin Ladin is hiding in Arabia and if we find him there will be no more terrorisms except maybe from Japans.
nick3333
Ah, of course. Kill one man (who is probably already dead), and end all ideological conflicts, forever. Brilliant!
I am sick of the Terrorists because they keep killing innocent lives everyday in Iraq . They attacked Iraq's parlament and killed 8 people. There has been 3,252 USA tropps dead so far that more than my thread called Do you believe in God or Do you believe in Sciecne? So when will all this end. :( Q. Do you know how many innocent iraq's have died so far in iraq? A. Almost a Million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!mohan88
 When crime ends. NEVER! A **** governing is part of the problem. If you can't govern the people they will do whatever the hell they want and nobody is gonna do anything about it.
No not almost a million. A million martyr has never happend only in Alegeria.
Until other near countries stop interfering the killing of innocent people will stop.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070418/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq WHEN WILL IT END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!mohan88
Hmm, people are probably paying too much attention to the VTech murders to care about Iraq. :|Â
Never?
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Strong incentives influence strong behaviour. The fear of random violence you can instill on a population is a powerful incentive to get your voice/cause/etc. heard and creates powerful incentives for those who are affected by it.
Terrorism is the most effective means of delivering this incentive, so it won't end anytime soon.
It will never end. As long as the following things exist, so will terrorism: Religion WeaponsO_Rly_FTW
Your new names should be Common_sense_FTWÂ
Never .Terrorism is as old as civilization so while there is a civilization there will be terrorismdelolJust like war. I think he means when will it slow down, which is, IMO, when George Bush stops invading and killing everyone he sees, and starts to reason.
I am sick of the Terrorists because they keep killing innocent lives everyday in Iraq . They attacked Iraq's parlament and killed 8 people. There has been 3,252 USA tropps dead so far that more than my thread called Do you believe in God or Do you believe in Sciecne? So when will all this end. :( Q. Do you know how many innocent iraq's have died so far in iraq? A. Almost a Million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!mohan88It won't ever end.
[QUOTE="mohan88"]I am sick of the Terrorists because they keep killing innocent lives everyday in Iraq . They attacked Iraq's parlament and killed 8 people. There has been 3,252 USA tropps dead so far that more than my thread called Do you believe in God or Do you believe in Sciecne? So when will all this end. :( Q. Do you know how many innocent iraq's have died so far in iraq? A. Almost a Million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!zeus_gbIt won't ever end.
  Lets not forget that the USA has killed a estimated 60,000+ civilians possibly on the invasion of Iraq.. With numbers such as these there will never be a end of terrorism.. As long as there is tyranny, collateral damage, and fringe religious sects, there will always be terrorism on every side..
[QUOTE="Snake-Drinker"]Who is to say who the real terrorists are?SIapshot
I would say that a terrorist is a person who *targets* innocent civilians to promote a political agenda, and a government that supports such behavior is a terrorist state.
Then Israel is a Terrorist State.
Arafat (who died), Iran's Government,etc don't hate Jews, they've gotten together with Jews and discussed the matters. What they hate is the zionists, and they want to wipe the Israeli government off the map. Israel is saying bull**** to get the United States,etc to help them and fight the Middle-East, labelled as the so called "war of terror".
Do you know who said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? It was Israel, they lied just to get us stuck there.
Hezbollah is just fighting against the terrorists Israel, and both sides of the conflict have their wrongs. Hezbollah only caputred 2 Israelis, and in return what happened..? 1000 lebanese died...just for the 2 soldiers
Hezbollah does target civilians, and Israeli's have no choice but to fire at Lebanese civilians because the rockest come from civilian places. However...
Hezbollah fired 4000 rockets and killed only 39 people (around there). Israel however has way better technology and has put Lebanon into ruins. And STILL the U.S. supports Israel!
This gives a chance for all of the Muslim extremist groups to gather even more people, as their main purpose is to get rid of Israel (the State of Israel). You're pretty much promoting Terrorism, as the extremists just tell their people that "we need to defend ourselves, and be martyrs, suicide bombers! jihad jihad jihad!" ...and they don't even know what jihad means.Â
It won't ever end.[QUOTE="zeus_gb"][QUOTE="mohan88"]I am sick of the Terrorists because they keep killing innocent lives everyday in Iraq . They attacked Iraq's parlament and killed 8 people. There has been 3,252 USA tropps dead so far that more than my thread called Do you believe in God or Do you believe in Sciecne? So when will all this end. :( Q. Do you know how many innocent iraq's have died so far in iraq? A. Almost a Million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!sSubZerOo
  Lets not forget that the USA has killed a estimated 60,000+ civilians possibly on the invasion of Iraq.. With numbers such as these there will never be a end of terrorism.. As long as there is tyranny, collateral damage, and fringe religious sects, there will always be terrorism on every side..
As long as there is any conflict in the world, there will always be violence and resulting terrorism. It's not a new concept. It's been going on as long as mankind has existed. Certain countries and groups claim to be above that, but in the end, there's just a thin line between humanity and savagery.
BTW, the estimated 60,000 civilian deaths were caused by the US invasion but not by the US - most of those people have been targets of sectarian and insurgent violence. but then again, none of that violence would have taken place under Saddam, he simply would have nerve gassed the troublemakers.
ONE MANS TERRORIST IS ANOTHER MANS FREEDOM FIGHTER
just thought i might share that...prob already said but hey, who cares.Â
who are the real terrorist's? the american's are killing other human's too which make's them terrorist's as wellPierSkillz
Your naive if you just think it's the americans that are killing other people. I'm sure your country of origin has dirty hands as well.Â
Terrorism is never gonna end everybody is becoming one
terrorism is everywhere.it is in movies ,games,music...etc
everbody dreams of having a gun and burn the world
its going to end the reign of human kind but we'll enjoy being rich at the end of human kind
(earth wealth will be divided on less humans and everything will be done by robots and there will be no needfor genetic engineering ,there will be less global warming as there will be few humans!)
HUMANS ARE THE DESTROYERS OF THE WORLD:twisted:
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]It won't ever end.[QUOTE="zeus_gb"][QUOTE="mohan88"]I am sick of the Terrorists because they keep killing innocent lives everyday in Iraq . They attacked Iraq's parlament and killed 8 people. There has been 3,252 USA tropps dead so far that more than my thread called Do you believe in God or Do you believe in Sciecne? So when will all this end. :( Q. Do you know how many innocent iraq's have died so far in iraq? A. Almost a Million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!sonicare
  Lets not forget that the USA has killed a estimated 60,000+ civilians possibly on the invasion of Iraq.. With numbers such as these there will never be a end of terrorism.. As long as there is tyranny, collateral damage, and fringe religious sects, there will always be terrorism on every side..
As long as there is any conflict in the world, there will always be violence and resulting terrorism. It's not a new concept. It's been going on as long as mankind has existed. Certain countries and groups claim to be above that, but in the end, there's just a thin line between humanity and savagery.
BTW, the estimated 60,000 civilian deaths were caused by the US invasion but not by the US - most of those people have been targets of sectarian and insurgent violence. but then again, none of that violence would have taken place under Saddam, he simply would have nerve gassed the troublemakers.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/10/11/iraq.deaths/index.html
 Thats not true a recent study was released showing that about 60,000 peopel directly were killed directly from the war from either collateral damage or worsened health conditions caused by the war. It is also surmised that far far FAR more people died then if there were no conflict to begin with.. And Insurgent attacks recently have been direclty due to the occupation of United States troops.. Now I am not blaiming the troops to these insurgents will never stop, not to mention Iraq already has a army of 200k+ men one of the larger in the world..
[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="Snake-Drinker"]Who is to say who the real terrorists are?thotoz
I would say that a terrorist is a person who *targets* innocent civilians to promote a political agenda, and a government that supports such behavior is a terrorist state.
Then Israel is a Terrorist State.
Arafat (who died), Iran's Government,etc don't hate Jews, they've gotten together with Jews and discussed the matters. What they hate is the zionists, and they want to wipe the Israeli government off the map. Israel is saying bull**** to get the United States,etc to help them and fight the Middle-East, labelled as the so called "war of terror".
Do you know who said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? It was Israel, they lied just to get us stuck there.
Hezbollah is just fighting against the terrorists Israel, and both sides of the conflict have their wrongs. Hezbollah only caputred 2 Israelis, and in return what happened..? 1000 lebanese died...just for the 2 soldiers
Hezbollah does target civilians, and Israeli's have no choice but to fire at Lebanese civilians because the rockest come from civilian places. However...
Hezbollah fired 4000 rockets and killed only 39 people (around there). Israel however has way better technology and has put Lebanon into ruins. And STILL the U.S. supports Israel!
This gives a chance for all of the Muslim extremist groups to gather even more people, as their main purpose is to get rid of Israel (the State of Israel). You're pretty much promoting Terrorism, as the extremists just tell their people that "we need to defend ourselves, and be martyrs, suicide bombers! jihad jihad jihad!" ...and they don't even know what jihad means.Â
Do you even realize how factually incorrect your post is?
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"Arafat (who died), Iran's Government,etc don't hate Jews, they've gotten together with Jews and discussed the matters. What they hate is the zionists, and they want to wipe the Israeli government off the map. Israel is saying bull**** to get the United States,etc to help them and fight the Middle-East, labelled as the so called "war of terror"."
You know Iran's leader just had a summit discusing the validity of the holcaust? And himself has called it a "myth"... These people are not interested in peace...Israel doesn't need to make stuff up...it is quite the opposite.
"Do you know who said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? It was Israel, they lied just to get us stuck there."
Eh...no. the info came from many sources...British, Ex Russian spies, and a few other sources.Â
"Hezbollah is just fighting against the terrorists Israel, and both sides of the conflict have their wrongs. Hezbollah only caputred 2 Israelis, and in return what happened..? 1000 lebanese died...just for the 2 soldiers"
This point is a little harder to disagree with. I do agree with you that both sides are doing evil against eachother. But to say "just for the 2 soldiers" is pretty dumb. When you ATTACK another nations soldiers, you are commiting an act of war! They should not have provoked this action. I don't have any sympathy for them...the fact Israel is stronger and can do more damage in return doesn't matter. Don't attack a nation if you do not wish to endure their retaliation.
"Hezbollah does target civilians, and Israeli's have no choice but to fire at Lebanese civilians because the rockest come from civilian places. However..."
There is no "however". Israel does not intentionally attack civilians.Â
"Hezbollah fired 4000 rockets and killed only 39 people (around there). Israel however has way better technology and has put Lebanon into ruins. And STILL the U.S. supports Israel!"
Again, just becuase Israel is more effective at counter attacking means nothing. The fact is 4000 rockets were being launched into civilian areas. Israel HAD to respond. No other country in the world would have allowed even 1 rocket shot in before action...Israel allowed over 4000 before responding. And of course the US supports israel. They are a democratic and peacfull country. In every war Israel has been in, they were always the defenders. The reason why they have the gaza strip in the first place was becuase they were ATTACKED by 3 nations at once, and kicked their arse.
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[QUOTE="thotoz"][QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="Snake-Drinker"]Who is to say who the real terrorists are?dnuggs40
I would say that a terrorist is a person who *targets* innocent civilians to promote a political agenda, and a government that supports such behavior is a terrorist state.
Then Israel is a Terrorist State.
Arafat (who died), Iran's Government,etc don't hate Jews, they've gotten together with Jews and discussed the matters. What they hate is the zionists, and they want to wipe the Israeli government off the map. Israel is saying bull**** to get the United States,etc to help them and fight the Middle-East, labelled as the so called "war of terror".
Do you know who said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? It was Israel, they lied just to get us stuck there.
Hezbollah is just fighting against the terrorists Israel, and both sides of the conflict have their wrongs. Hezbollah only caputred 2 Israelis, and in return what happened..? 1000 lebanese died...just for the 2 soldiers
Hezbollah does target civilians, and Israeli's have no choice but to fire at Lebanese civilians because the rockest come from civilian places. However...
Hezbollah fired 4000 rockets and killed only 39 people (around there). Israel however has way better technology and has put Lebanon into ruins. And STILL the U.S. supports Israel!
This gives a chance for all of the Muslim extremist groups to gather even more people, as their main purpose is to get rid of Israel (the State of Israel). You're pretty much promoting Terrorism, as the extremists just tell their people that "we need to defend ourselves, and be martyrs, suicide bombers! jihad jihad jihad!" ...and they don't even know what jihad means.Â
Do you even realize how factually incorrect your post is?
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"Arafat (who died), Iran's Government,etc don't hate Jews, they've gotten together with Jews and discussed the matters. What they hate is the zionists, and they want to wipe the Israeli government off the map. Israel is saying bull**** to get the United States,etc to help them and fight the Middle-East, labelled as the so called "war of terror"."
You know Iran's leader just had a summit discusing the validity of the holcaust? And himself has called it a "myth"... These people are not interested in peace...Israel doesn't need to make stuff up...it is quite the opposite.
"Do you know who said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? It was Israel, they lied just to get us stuck there."
Eh...no. the info came from many sources...British, Ex Russian spies, and a few other sources.Â
"Hezbollah is just fighting against the terrorists Israel, and both sides of the conflict have their wrongs. Hezbollah only caputred 2 Israelis, and in return what happened..? 1000 lebanese died...just for the 2 soldiers"
This point is a little harder to disagree with. I do agree with you that both sides are doing evil against eachother. But to say "just for the 2 soldiers" is pretty dumb. When you ATTACK another nations soldiers, you are commiting an act of war! They should not have provoked this action. I don't have any sympathy for them...the fact Israel is stronger and can do more damage in return doesn't matter. Don't attack a nation if you do not wish to endure their retaliation.
"Hezbollah does target civilians, and Israeli's have no choice but to fire at Lebanese civilians because the rockest come from civilian places. However..."
There is no "however". Israel does not intentionally attack civilians.Â
"Hezbollah fired 4000 rockets and killed only 39 people (around there). Israel however has way better technology and has put Lebanon into ruins. And STILL the U.S. supports Israel!"
Again, just becuase Israel is more effective at counter attacking means nothing. The fact is 4000 rockets were being launched into civilian areas. Israel HAD to respond. No other country in the world would have allowed even 1 rocket shot in before action...Israel allowed over 4000 before responding. And of course the US supports israel. They are a democratic and peacfull country. In every war Israel has been in, they were always the defenders. The reason why they have the gaza strip in the first place was becuase they were ATTACKED by 3 nations at once, and kicked their arse.
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 My greatest problem is Hezz is considered a terrorist group in most senses and does not represent the majority of Lebenon... So that isn't neccesarly a act of war by a country, meaning civilians are not considered only collateral damage.. And top that who cares if the enemy is using underhanded tactics, imo that does not give Israel the right to launch missles into areas with heavy civilian populations.. IN the end they have only made their matters worst with now the majority of people (all religions from Islam to christanity followers) supporting Hezz in that region.
  Just because the enemy is using underhanded tactics doesn't mean that Israel should completely ignore that... This is like saying police officers are allowed to shoot through hostages to reach the criminal when they are firing at the police officer..Â
   I thought it would have been best for them to move in force with ground troops.. This would significantly lowered the collateral damage, not to mention it would have made Hezzbollah very unpopular.. Remember in the beginning of the war Hezz was very unpopular and people wanted to kick them out.. But with Israel's tactics/strategies the majority of the region now supports Hezz as heros and it has been ingrained even further into the government.. So in the end Israel has really solved nothing, only increasing the support of the enemy.
  That being said I think both sides have done some very rediculous things. Which has caused the countless deaths of innocents on both sides, and the extremists on both sides are not helping matters much either. There is too much violence on both sides showing any sign for peace invisible. Both sides have some pretty legitimate greivances as well.
When people are smart enough to realise it wont work, and alot of adults stop being big children it will stop. That said,it will take a long time before it stops mostly, I believe somewhere in the future we will realise our flaws and talk about them instead of ignoring it, the greathest enemy for men ATM is emotions like pride, anger, nationalisme, aggresion, amusements, maybe more, they cause war. Someday we will realise this. Doomlike_Mitc
We shouldn't be given lessons of humanity by non human people period.
Majority of people supports hezzballah ? I didn't know that ??? No this is wrong because the majority of people in this region aren't shias and hizballah is doing soemthing wrong by dragging Syria to lebanon and probably Iran.gamingqueen
 read the articles on the incident. Hezzballah's actions were origianlly unpopular and very against.. But sense Israel's Tactics allt he people who were original against Hezz sided with them on the issue and they became highly supported.   It has nothing to do with the region not being Shias.. As I said earlier even the majority of the Christians in the region started supporting Hezz just due to the tactics Israel were doing in the combat which cost many lives.
[QUOTE="gamingqueen"]Majority of people supports hezzballah ? I didn't know that ??? No this is wrong because the majority of people in this region aren't shias and hizballah is doing soemthing wrong by dragging Syria to lebanon and probably Iran.sSubZerOo
 read the articles on the incident. Hezzballah's actions were origianlly unpopular and very against.. But sense Israel's Tactics allt he people who were original against Hezz sided with them on the issue and they became highly supported.   It has nothing to do with the region not being Shias.. As I said earlier even the majority of the Christians in the region started supporting Hezz just due to the tactics Israel were doing in the combat which cost many lives.
No no no most people here are aware or hizballah's intentions which are the ones I've mentioned above. People here like me aren't naive. I can only blame your source of news.
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="gamingqueen"]Majority of people supports hezzballah ? I didn't know that ??? No this is wrong because the majority of people in this region aren't shias and hizballah is doing soemthing wrong by dragging Syria to lebanon and probably Iran.gamingqueen
 read the articles on the incident. Hezzballah's actions were origianlly unpopular and very against.. But sense Israel's Tactics allt he people who were original against Hezz sided with them on the issue and they became highly supported.   It has nothing to do with the region not being Shias.. As I said earlier even the majority of the Christians in the region started supporting Hezz just due to the tactics Israel were doing in the combat which cost many lives.
No no no most people here are aware or hizballah's intentions which are the ones I've mentioned above. People here like me aren't naive. I can only blame your source of news.
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_2833.shtml
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/6-8-19/45090.html
 There are for more similar articles on this from numerous credibile news sources.
 AND I AM TALKING ABOUT THE REGION of Lebenon and the surrounding areas. Because i awfully sounds like you think I am talking about the entire world.
 Peopel also fail to realize that Hezzbalah has been recieving even more support from the people of Lebenon and the surrounding areas to the contributions they have been giving to the people. They run multiple hospitals, water irrigation systems etc etc.. Thats why IMO Israel's strategy of attackign Hezzbalah has failed and it has only strengthened support to the political group/militants.sSubZerOo
By bringing a war to their land after kidnapping to israeli soldiers ? No ! They don't want that !
You know the channels Future tv,LBC, NBN, tele liban new tv and all lebanese channels ? Please do get those with subtitles. Things are much more complicated than to think since hizballah are lebanese let's stick to them ! No I wish it was just that over there.
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