Which president is most embarrassing for their country?

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#101 spacesheikh
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Plzhelpmelearn"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] Really? On the foreign relations side I think Obama has been rather successful. At least successful compared to Bush who basically went around making a huge fool of himself and by extension the US. Obama hasn't reached Bush levels of embarrassment yet, and to be honest I really doubt he could.

I disagree. There are plenty of examples like Obama bowing to the Saudis that surpass anything that Bush did. Bush was not much of a public speaker (though i did not mind his tendency to make up words), but I definitely respected his steadfastness over Obama's "say anything to get the world to like us" policies. Bush was not afraid to call people out, Obama just wants to appease everyone regardless of how twisted and corrupt they are.

Bowing is their version of a handshake. :| Let's not be silly. That's nothing even close to a disaster.

Why do we have to do their version? Why can't they do our version?
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#102 spacesheikh
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While Kim Jong II is pretty close, George W.Bush definitly brought the rest of the world plenty of laughs from his speeches and made many think " Seriously, That was the best candidate they had?"Treflis
I wish we elected scientists and engineers instead of career politicians.
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#103 Plzhelpmelearn
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[QUOTE="Plzhelpmelearn"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] Really? On the foreign relations side I think Obama has been rather successful. At least successful compared to Bush who basically went around making a huge fool of himself and by extension the US. Obama hasn't reached Bush levels of embarrassment yet, and to be honest I really doubt he could.Ninja-Hippo
I disagree. There are plenty of examples like Obama bowing to the Saudis that surpass anything that Bush did. Bush was not much of a public speaker (though i did not mind his tendency to make up words), but I definitely respected his steadfastness over Obama's "say anything to get the world to like us" policies. Bush was not afraid to call people out, Obama just wants to appease everyone regardless of how twisted and corrupt they are.

Bowing is their version of a handshake. :| Let's not be silly. That's nothing even close to a disaster.


I don't know. From the looks of the video it doesn't seem like the Saudi is bowing back.... regardless I don't think it was a "disaster", and I am definitely more concerned about his overall foreign policy.

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#104 Deihjan
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Not all countries has Presidents, so change it to National leaders ? I'd say former head of gov. in Denmark, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, is a pretty good candidate to most embarrassing leader. Now he's chief secretary for NATO, I think
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[QUOTE="spacesheikh"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Plzhelpmelearn"] I disagree. There are plenty of examples like Obama bowing to the Saudis that surpass anything that Bush did. Bush was not much of a public speaker (though i did not mind his tendency to make up words), but I definitely respected his steadfastness over Obama's "say anything to get the world to like us" policies. Bush was not afraid to call people out, Obama just wants to appease everyone regardless of how twisted and corrupt they are.

Bowing is their version of a handshake. :| Let's not be silly. That's nothing even close to a disaster.

Why do we have to do their version? Why can't they do our version?

Because it's a western custom to be polite? I can't remember where they were but if it was their country you honour their traditions. If it was in the states your being polite to your guests by making them feel welcome.

"I wish we elected scientists and engineers instead of career politicians." People complain enough already when a career politician doesn't have that much experience. Also a scientist would get no votes from the right, at least going off what the right here on gamespot believe.
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[QUOTE="spacesheikh"] Why do we have to do their version? Why can't they do our version?

Because you're a guest in their country? Isn't that sort of pointless antagonistic nonsense what made that whole region hate the west in the first place? Imagine if a premier from another nation came to the USA or the UK and refused to shake anyone's hand. Wouldn't you think they were kind of a jackass?
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] Eh. I never found him more embarrassing than Obama has been. He rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, much like Obama is doing.fidosim
Really? On the foreign relations side I think Obama has been rather successful. At least successful compared to Bush who basically went around making a huge fool of himself and by extension the US. Obama hasn't reached Bush levels of embarrassment yet, and to be honest I really doubt he could.

The fact that Obama has felt the need to apologize to China for an immigration law that an American state passed easily makes him competitive with other leaders in terms of embarassment.

:lol:

This has been a poor century for presidents.

@ Ace: I was more referring to the American people. Obama is far from abraisive in his foreign policy - in fact he does his utmost to avoid any sort of confrontation at all....

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#108 scoots9
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Does Biden count?

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George Bush. :oops:

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#110 Aspen706
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George W Bush.
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Is it not better to be respected and a partner in the world than ignorant and antagonistic like Bush's administration falsely portrayed America? Ninja-Hippo
Pleasantries aside, I hardly feel like we're more respected. Bush was flawed as a diplomatist, but at least he had a backbone. You knew that he was looking out not for the international "community", but for the interests of the United States. Not so with Obama, who apparently feels that he was elected president of the world. He ought to grow a spine and stick up for his own country.
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Obama, Definitely. :lol:

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He's a bit embarrassing I have to admit. His thoughts on the oil leak: "plug that damn hole". Also he called Kanye a jackass regarding the Taylor Swift incident. I would hope that our president doesn't watch MTV Video Awards.

I fail to see how that would constitute him to be anywhere remotely close to most embarrassing...
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Is it not better to be respected and a partner in the world than ignorant and antagonistic like Bush's administration falsely portrayed America? fidosim
Pleasantries aside, I hardly feel like we're more respected. Bush was flawed as a diplomatist, but at least he had a backbone. You knew that he was looking out not for the international "community", but for the interests of the United States. Not so with Obama, who apparently feels that he was elected president of the world. He ought to grow a spine and stick up for his own country.

It's better to admit your country has done wrong than to blindly stay on message at all times. The speech he gave in Saudia Arabia did more for the USA's reputation in the world than anything Bush did over his whole eight years.
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bush probably, but all presidents face serious ridicule during their term
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Personally I believe Kevin Rudd of Australia was an embarrassment. Everything he touched turned to mud.

During the GFC he made a mess of the economy. Instead of saying "there is nothing fundamentally wrong with the Australian economy", which there was not, he kept talking down the economy and sapped any confidence that there was away. He then wasted billions of dollars on "stimulus" packages. He gave two lots of $900 payments to "stimulate the retail economy". I somehow got $2700 and it went, and still is, in the bank. Then he spent $2bn on a Home Insulation scheme which was so unregulated it led to fraud, nearly 1000 house fires and 4 deaths. He also spent $6bn on Building the Education Revolution which was to build facilities in schools. Thing is, this money didn't fund anything actually inside these buildings, so most of them are just empty shells, and it was so regulated over two-thirds of the cost of a project came from administration costs. He went from a $20bn surplus into a $50bn deficit in the space of a year, and it's still going to be another 3 years until we get into surplus again.

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[QUOTE="spacesheikh"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Obama, Definitely. :lol:

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He's a bit embarrassing I have to admit. His thoughts on the oil leak: "plug that damn hole". Also he called Kanye a jackass regarding the Taylor Swift incident. I would hope that our president doesn't watch MTV Video Awards.

I fail to see how that would constitute him to be anywhere remotely close to most embarrassing...

How about our president looking for some asses to kick?

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Obama and Hugo Chavez, both are losers.

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#119 spacesheikh
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="spacesheikh"] Why do we have to do their version? Why can't they do our version?

Because you're a guest in their country? Isn't that sort of pointless antagonistic nonsense what made that whole region hate the west in the first place? Imagine if a premier from another nation came to the USA or the UK and refused to shake anyone's hand. Wouldn't you think they were kind of a jackass?

Hand shaking is different from bowing. Hand shaking is a sign of trust. Bowing is a sign of submission.
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="spacesheikh"] Well the nukes used against Japan were only a fraction as powerful as the ones available today. However it would have been better if nukes weren't invented at all. Maybe US is to blame for that.Pirate700

The dropping of those bombs on Japan was the biggest terroristic attack I can recall period.

Its time we start maturing as a species.

Terrorist attack? We were already at war with them and stopped the war stone cold.

\

yeah thats right, we killed easily a million people that didn't have anything to do with it.

Secondly I find it ironic that you have this view, yet if muslims attacked anything over here in the united states it would be a terrorist attack, Even though they are already at war with us....

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#121 T_REX305
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Obama, Definitely. :lol:

Snipes_2

i new someone would say that :lol:

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[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"][QUOTE="spacesheikh"] He's a bit embarrassing I have to admit. His thoughts on the oil leak: "plug that damn hole". Also he called Kanye a jackass regarding the Taylor Swift incident. I would hope that our president doesn't watch MTV Video Awards.Plzhelpmelearn

I fail to see how that would constitute him to be anywhere remotely close to most embarrassing...

How about our president looking for some asses to kick?

Super mega embarrassment? :?
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It's better to admit your country has done wrong than to blindly stay on message at all times. The speech he gave in Saudia Arabia did more for the USA's reputation in the world than anything Bush did over his whole eight years.Ninja-Hippo
Obama has gone much farther than simply acknowledging that America has done wrong. He has used American wrongs to justify the atrocities of other nations, thus distorting our nation's message and jeopardizing our moral leadership and purpose. Every president, before this one, has sought to make the world appreciate the character, culture, and free institutions of the United States.

Obama has gone beyond that. He has elevated himself above his country, and taken it upon himself, personally, to provide moral leadership for the world. It was pathetic, for example, that he went to Berlin before he was even nominated for President by his own party, and chastised the world at large for "building walls", figuratively, between peoples and countries, while making no direct reference to the great statesmen like Churchill, Kennedy, Reagan, Thatcher, or Kohl who made the actual German divide disappear.

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Emperor Palpatine he lost to ewoks and rebels while he had a huge army, grand fleets, and a ship that could destroy planets!

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#125 Plzhelpmelearn
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[QUOTE="Plzhelpmelearn"]

[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"] I fail to see how that would constitute him to be anywhere remotely close to most embarrassing...Ninja-Hippo

How about our president looking for some asses to kick?

Super mega embarrassment? :?

I do think it is kinda embarrassing for a president to be using vulgar language on national tv in the midst of an environmental crisis. It was a forced attempt to sound angry to appeal to his base. He should be solving the problem, not worrying about whose 'ass' to kick.
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#126 spacesheikh
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Plzhelpmelearn"]

How about our president looking for some asses to kick?

Plzhelpmelearn

Super mega embarrassment? :?

I do think it is kinda embarrassing for a president to be using vulgar language on national tv in the midst of an environmental crisis. It was a forced attempt to sound angry to appeal to his base. He should be solving the problem, not worrying about whose 'ass' to kick.

How can he solve the problem though? He's just a politician. To him, there is a leaking hole and it needs plugging. All he can do is tell people to plug the hole. He has no solutions.

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Obama, Definitely. :lol:

Snipes_2

Obama above Kim Jon Il? I lol'd :lol:

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Plzhelpmelearn"]

How about our president looking for some asses to kick?

Plzhelpmelearn

Super mega embarrassment? :?

I do think it is kinda embarrassing for a president to be using vulgar language on national tv in the midst of an environmental crisis. It was a forced attempt to sound angry to appeal to his base. He should be solving the problem, not worrying about whose 'ass' to kick.

Ass? Vulgar language? Really? :?

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#130 spacesheikh
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[QUOTE="Plzhelpmelearn"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Super mega embarrassment? :? Ninja-Hippo

I do think it is kinda embarrassing for a president to be using vulgar language on national tv in the midst of an environmental crisis. It was a forced attempt to sound angry to appeal to his base. He should be solving the problem, not worrying about whose 'ass' to kick.

Ass? Vulgar language? Really? :?

You can even say it on gamespot.
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Kim Jong Il is nuttier than squirrel ****, so I'll say him.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] It's better to admit your country has done wrong than to blindly stay on message at all times. The speech he gave in Saudia Arabia did more for the USA's reputation in the world than anything Bush did over his whole eight years.fidosim

Obama has gone much farther than simply acknowledging that America has done wrong. He has used American wrongs to justify the atrocities of other nations, thus distorting our nation's message and jeopardizing our moral leadership and purpose. Every president, before this one, has sought to make the world appreciate the character, culture, and free institutions of the United States.

Obama has gone beyond that. He has elevated himself above his country, and taken it upon himself, personally, to provide moral leadership for the world. It was pathetic, for example, that he went to Berlin before he was even nominated for President by his own party, and chastised the world at large for "building walls", figuratively, between peoples and countries, while making no direct reference to the great statesmen like Churchill, Kennedy, Reagan, Thatcher, or Kohl who made the actual German divide disappear.

When has he done this?

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#133 positivebalance
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putin is/was a bad ass.

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[QUOTE="superdum2"][QUOTE="spacesheikh"] Well for one, The US is still around...testfactor888

yeah what happened there how did the US win o wait derp because we pwn

I cant wait for the day the USA loses and loses big just so all the people who say things like you just did can eat their own words. I live in the USA btw I just think the arrogant people need to step back and realize the USA needs to be taken down a peg or 2

Vietnam and the civil war the one where we lost the most Americans because we where kill each other and 911 really opened our eyes
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

And what country was he serving "honorably"? The Soviet Union. Lach0121

I don't see what the problem with that is. What made the US any better than the Soviet Union?

Exactly all these lines in the sand are from an immature time in humanities history.

People are starting to look past these invisible barriers, and are starting to connect with one another.

haha yeah right. FIFA should be a testament to how nationalistic people can get for god's sakes, which is to say nothing of how pissed people get when you say bad things about their country, America or otherwise.

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Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus, or just simply Nero. Emperor of Rome from 54 to 68 CE.

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#137 Blacklight2
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Obama is a piece of ****

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#139 ragek1ll589
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Obama is a piece of ****

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Care to elaborate?

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#140 ff7cloudking
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

I don't see what the problem with that is. What made the US any better than the Soviet Union?

TheAbbeFaria

Exactly all these lines in the sand are from an immature time in humanities history.

People are starting to look past these invisible barriers, and are starting to connect with one another.

haha yeah right. FIFA should be a testament to how nationalistic people can get for god's sakes, which is to say nothing of how pissed people get when you say bad things about their country, America or otherwise.

Is there something wrong with getting angry when someone insults your country? I agree that fighting over soccer/football is a little of the top, but whats wrong with being proud of your country?

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#141 GD-1369211121
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Well, since America is the only country that really matters... I'd go with Obama...

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[QUOTE="spacesheikh"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Obama, Definitely. :lol:

He's a bit embarrassing I have to admit. His thoughts on the oil leak: "plug that damn hole". Also he called Kanye a jackass regarding the Taylor Swift incident. I would hope that our president doesn't watch MTV Video Awards.

I would hope that nobody watches that.
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Obama.

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Kim Jong Il - how can there be any question? Have you seen pictures of the man?
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Kim Jong Il - how can there be any question? Have you seen pictures of the man?MCGSMB
If you're going by looks, FDR had polio.
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#146 UGAfootballfan
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Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus, or just simply Nero. Emperor of Rome from 54 to 68 CE.

ragek1ll589

I don't know if you could really call him embarassing; he was more evil than embarassing.

To be honest, I would be more frightened than humored by a guy dipping people in candle wax and setting them on fire just to light his room.

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Woodrow Wilson - Federal Reserve Act

Bush Jr - being himself(dumb)

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[QUOTE="MCGSMB"]Kim Jong Il - how can there be any question? Have you seen pictures of the man?spacesheikh
If you're going by looks, FDR had polio.

Come on:

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#149 Virtual_Price
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Bush... *shudders*

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[QUOTE="MCGSMB"]

Come on:

I see your Kim Jong Ill and raise you: