Whites (Caucasians) Becoming a Minority in America in 2042

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AMERICA! But I'm sure England is a fantastic country as well ;). We have our shortcomings and a horrible president right now, but still the best.

swizz-the-gamer

Awesome, would you please tell me what makes your country better than the UK so I can move there?

It's obviously somewhat of a bias since I have pride and love my country, sheesh. No country is the best right? What one country offers, another offers more. It's an up and down pattern.

"Best" is a relative term. Best at what? Best in what?

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

AMERICA! But I'm sure England is a fantastic country as well ;). We have our shortcomings and a horrible president right now, but still the best.

swizz-the-gamer

Awesome, would you please tell me what makes your country better than the UK so I can move there?

It's obviously somewhat of a bias since I have pride and love my country, sheesh. No country is the best right? What one country offers, another offers more. It's an up and down pattern.

OMG. Are you serious? Having pride and love for your country is bad now? You really took what I said seriously about America being the best country in the world? It's an American thing in ways I guess. Some people are far too judgemental. ANd of course no country can be the best in/at everything (Economy, living conditions/costs, military, healthcare, civil rights).

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

AMERICA! But I'm sure England is a fantastic country as well ;). We have our shortcomings and a horrible president right now, but still the best.

harden007

Awesome, would you please tell me what makes your country better than the UK so I can move there?

It's obviously somewhat of a bias since I have pride and love my country, sheesh. No country is the best right? What one country offers, another offers more. It's an up and down pattern.

"Best" is a relative term. Best at what? Best in what?

I've read this in my local newspaper and its also over the internet?! Has Imigration taken over the United States?!

What Do you Think about this ?!

Here is some source - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,403441,00.html

Akm4everz

To be fair, it was an immigrant nation in the first place. White people dont have any claim to the US at all.

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

AMERICA! But I'm sure England is a fantastic country as well ;). We have our shortcomings and a horrible president right now, but still the best.

TREAL_Since

Awesome, would you please tell me what makes your country better than the UK so I can move there?

It's obviously somewhat of a bias since I have pride and love my country, sheesh. No country is the best right? What one country offers, another offers more. It's an up and down pattern.

OMG. Are you serious? Having pride and love for your country is bad now? You really took what I said seriously about America being the best country in the world? It's an American thing in ways I guess. Some people are far too judgemental. ANd of course no country can be the best in/at everything (Economy, living conditions/costs, military, healthcare, civil rights).

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]I honestly think there should be put a cap on how many children each person can have. It's ridiculous some people have so many. I can't tell you how many hispanic mothers I've known on welfare whom have sooo many children she can't even care for. Absurd. (No, that does not apply to hispanics only, it's for all people who have tons of children they can't care for)GettingTired

if the government has the right to tell you how many kids that you can have what else CANT they tell you?

heres the thing, if the government put that law into effect I would break it. So, maybe you should focus on living your own life the way you see fit instead of trying to push your half witted garbage onto other people

In my opinion having pride and love for your country is indeed bad.swizz-the-gamer

I'm just about speechless... Why? Your country is a big part of what makes YOU who YOU are, whether it's the culture or upbringing. Where are you from?

in the case of america, loving your country has to do with loving the idea behind it. also, it has to do with showing responsibility towards it.

so no, its not bad. and not arguably bad either.

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]In my opinion having pride and love for your country is indeed bad.TREAL_Since

I'm just about speechless... Why? Your country is a big part of what makes YOU who YOU are, whether it's the culture or upbringing. Where are you from?

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]In my opinion having pride and love for your country is indeed bad.TREAL_Since

I'm just about speechless... Why? Your country is a big part of what makes YOU who YOU are, whether it's the culture or upbringing. Where are you from?

People get really worked up when you show pride towards being an American. They want you to be self loathing.

So you would make life for the large poor families even harder?

swizz-the-gamer

Well I'm sorry if they are poor in the first place, what the hell are they doing have 7 kids? :roll:

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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]In my opinion having pride and love for your country is indeed bad.swizz-the-gamer

I'm just about speechless... Why? Your country is a big part of what makes YOU who YOU are, whether it's the culture or upbringing. Where are you from?

Well you can look at it this way. You would have never ever gotten those achievements without your country allowing you to do so. Thats why people have love for their country because unfortunately there are a lot other unfortunate people who don't have that option because their country is corrupted.

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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]In my opinion having pride and love for your country is indeed bad.xscrapzx

I'm just about speechless... Why? Your country is a big part of what makes YOU who YOU are, whether it's the culture or upbringing. Where are you from?

Well you can look at it this way. You would have never ever gotten those achievements without your country allowing you to do so. Thats why people have love for there country because unfortunately there are a lot other unfortunate people who don't have that option because their country is corrupted.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]In my opinion having pride and love for your country is indeed bad.swizz-the-gamer

I'm just about speechless... Why? Your country is a big part of what makes YOU who YOU are, whether it's the culture or upbringing. Where are you from?

Well you can look at it this way. You would have never ever gotten those achievements without your country allowing you to do so. Thats why people have love for there country because unfortunately there are a lot other unfortunate people who don't have that option because their country is corrupted.

I'm talking in the sense of a free market which allows you to have the life you have. Of course there is always going to be some corruption, but as far as the U.S. and England it is so little that it has no bearing on your lively hood.

EDIT: You don't have your country holding a gun to your head, you not thrown into slaverly, you can come and go as you please. You start your own business and thrive. Not all countries are like that in this world, be thankful you were born in a good country.

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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]In my opinion having pride and love for your country is indeed bad.swizz-the-gamer

I'm just about speechless... Why? Your country is a big part of what makes YOU who YOU are, whether it's the culture or upbringing. Where are you from?

That's honestly a first. Are you not proud of your country men when he/she gets a gold medal? Are you not poud of your government for issuing something as simple and important as universal heathcare?

It's not just about where you were born, but where you were raised. You are who you are because of Englad. Those who came before you have and have given you the opportunity you to be who you are today? That is definitely something to love and be proud about. Shoot love it because it's a beautiful country :)!

For example: I love and am proud of those who came before me during the civil rights era to give me equal rights as a black man. If I were like you and said that I am only proud of my personal achievements and not that of others I would be ridiculously selfish.

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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]In my opinion having pride and love for your country is indeed bad.xscrapzx

I'm just about speechless... Why? Your country is a big part of what makes YOU who YOU are, whether it's the culture or upbringing. Where are you from?

Well you can look at it this way. You would have never ever gotten those achievements without your country allowing you to do so. Thats why people have love for there country because unfortunately there are a lot other unfortunate people who don't have that option because their country is corrupted.

I'm talking in the sense of a free market which allows you to have the life you have. Of course there is always going to be some corruption, but as far as the U.S. and England it is so little that it has no bearing on your lively hood.

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]In my opinion having pride and love for your country is indeed bad.TREAL_Since

I'm just about speechless... Why? Your country is a big part of what makes YOU who YOU are, whether it's the culture or upbringing. Where are you from?

That's honestly a first. Are you not proud of your country men when he/she gets a gold medal? Are you not poud of your government for issuing something as simple and important as universal heathcare?

It's not just about where you were born, but where you were raised. You are who you are because of Englad. Those who came before you have and have given you the opportunity you to be who you are today? That is definitely something to love and be proud about. Shoot love it because it's a beautiful country :)!

For example: I love and am proud of those who came before me during the civil rights era to give me equal rights as a black man. If I were like you and said that I am only proud of my personal achievements and not that of others I would be ridiculously selfish.

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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]In my opinion having pride and love for your country is indeed bad.cametall

I'm just about speechless... Why? Your country is a big part of what makes YOU who YOU are, whether it's the culture or upbringing. Where are you from?

People get really worked up when you show pride towards being an American. They want you to be self loathing.

Actually, I think it may also have something to do American resentment across the world. And in ways rightfully so for various reasons. But the whole notion of America macho-ism is just not true with everyone.

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]In my opinion having pride and love for your country is indeed bad.swizz-the-gamer

I'm just about speechless... Why? Your country is a big part of what makes YOU who YOU are, whether it's the culture or upbringing. Where are you from?

That's honestly a first. Are you not proud of your country men when he/she gets a gold medal? Are you not poud of your government for issuing something as simple and important as universal heathcare?

It's not just about where you were born, but where you were raised. You are who you are because of Englad. Those who came before you have and have given you the opportunity you to be who you are today? That is definitely something to love and be proud about. Shoot love it because it's a beautiful country :)!

For example: I love and am proud of those who came before me during the civil rights era to give me equal rights as a black man. If I were like you and said that I am only proud of my personal achievements and not that of others I would be ridiculously selfish.

No one ever said you had to believe in your country's decisions or actions. Obvioiusly they are beyond your control. You should be proud that there are individuals brave enough to fight for their country.

So I assume I am to be ashamed of atrocities committed by my countries also? Or does it just go one way? Should I be proud of my country sending brave individuals from my country to die in Iraq for no reason? swizz-the-gamer

I would be proud no matter what the shortcomings as well as critical. I mean, I live in America... Do you not think that I think about the Iraq war? MY government is responsible leading us into the unnecessary war in Iraq!

But that does not take away from what my country is and has given to me as an individual.

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[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]In my opinion having pride and love for your country is indeed bad.swizz-the-gamer

I'm just about speechless... Why? Your country is a big part of what makes YOU who YOU are, whether it's the culture or upbringing. Where are you from?

Well you can look at it this way. You would have never ever gotten those achievements without your country allowing you to do so. Thats why people have love for there country because unfortunately there are a lot other unfortunate people who don't have that option because their country is corrupted.

well you gotta love it to fix it right?

im not implying love for the government at all either

True. But it does have a bearing on the lives of people in third world countries. swizz-the-gamer

I don't think the U.S. and England go out of there way to ruin third world countries. A lot of the reason those countries are the way they are is because of the people running the show. Not because of England.

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]So I assume I am to be ashamed of atrocities committed by my countries also? Or does it just go one way? Should I be proud of my country sending brave individuals from my country to die in Iraq for no reason? TREAL_Since

I would be proud no matter what the shortcomings as well as critical. I mean, I live in America... Do you not think that I think about the Iraq war? MY government is responsible leading us into the unnecessary war in Iraq!

But that does not take away from what my country is and has given to be as an individual.

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]True. But it does have a bearing on the lives of people in third world countries. xscrapzx

I don't think the U.S. and England go out of there way to ruin third world countries. A lot of the reason those countries are the way they are is because of the people running the show. Not because of England.

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]True. But it does have a bearing on the lives of people in third world countries. xscrapzx

I don't think the U.S. and England go out of there way to ruin third world countries. A lot of the reason those countries are the way they are is because of the people running the show. Not because of England.

Just investigate for the reasons why third-world countries are what they are.

You will find that England doesn't fit into the equation.

I'm willing to bet that the third world makes itself what it is.

swizz-the-gamer

In my opinion having pride and love for your country is indeed bad.swizz-the-gamer

Thank goodness most people don't hold the same opinion then.

Just imagine how few civil servants we would have to get things done. :|

It is not inevitable that America will become a nation of minorities by 2042. If our politicians get off their asses, grow some balls, and produce some legislation that discourages illegal immigration, this scenario can be averted. They could fine businesses for hiring illegal, which would lead to many self-deportations. They could make the definition of an american as someone who is born of at least one American parent. This would prevent illegals from having so-called 'anchor babies'. Walls can be erected at strategic choke points and more guards can be placed at the border.

Mexican and Hispanic immigrants are somewhat different than the immigrants of the past. They do not assimilate as readily into the American culture. I think this is partly because there are so many coming at the same time that they are able to form there own communities within a community. This allows them to escape integration somewhat. Its kind of like Chinatown except on a much more massive scale.

I have personally witnessed the effects of these 'Mexicotowns' and I can tell you write now it is not very good. I was born and raised in Phoenix Arizona and have watched as my community has slowly but surely eroded into a provincial backwater due in large part to illegal immigrants. Gangs, graffitti, and gunshots in the middle of the night are all too common. The worse part of it is, however, the vast amounts of American money that goes to support these people. The majority have more children than they can reasonably sustain. It constantly vexes me knowing that my tax dollars are going to support their education, healthcare, and the extra law enforcement needed to curb the influx of crime with them around. I could think of a hundred different ways thet money could be put to better use. There are some benefits to having them around, such as cheap labor, but overall I think the negatives heavily outweigh the positives.

Unfortunately, neither Obama or McCain seems to have the courage or the will to deal with this problem. I guess I'll have to wait till 2012 :(. Or move to Canada. I hear Montreal is nice...

This sucks! I always wanted to date a white girl.... or even get to know a white girl, but where I live they are practically nonexistent! efrucht

lol move to orange county or pismo ;D

Thank goodness most people don't hold the same opinion then.

Just imagine how few civil servants we would have to get things done. :|

The_Ish

oh, I'm sure several would still be around.

Ehm, guys...there is no population "crisis" in the US.jointed

If anything, that's my point. Overpopulation isn't even a problem right now. And while there have been some dire predictions about overpopulation made in the past, isn't it the case that worldwide population growth has actually SLOWED DOWN quite a bit over the last decade or so?

So...I think that the worldwide population crisis in general is sort of blown out of proportion by some people.

But most specifically, this is the first that I have EVER heard anyone mentioning a population crisis in the USA. Maybe someone can back up a USA population crisis by posting some new statistics concerning annual population growth vs annual death rates, with immigration and emigration taken into account.

But I have NEVER had the slightest inkling that the USA faces such a population crisis.

So...can someone actually show that there IS such a population crisis in the USA?

IF there is no such crisis, then WHY are people even talking about the government restricting the number of children that people in the USA can have? If there is no crisis, then WHY allow the government to tell you how many freaking children you can have? Why would you people WANT government to exercise that kind of control, PARTICULARLY if the USA does NOT face a population crisis?

The sad thing is, I've heard inklings of this noted upon, even if it was unintentional. Yes, it has been pointed out that people in poverty have higher birth rates than people who are financially sound. Yes, it has been pointed out that minorities in the USA tend to be more poor than white people. Yes, it has been pointed out that rich people don't have many children anyway, so on the whole they would be likely less affected than poor people. And yes, there have been MANY posts in this thread which have been complaining about how it would be inherently a BAD thing for white people to become a minority.

Connect the dots.

Is there REALLY a population crisis? Is the "population crisis" in the USA really so dire that the USA should implement a policy on the maximum number of children that people can have?

Or is that just a (possibly subconscious) desire to selectively impose penalties on the poor, thereby ensuring that the poor REMAIN poor, while simultaneously ensuring that the USA remains predominantly white?

Too many minorities are prospering here. The number of white people is dwindling. Let's fix that by imposing penalties for having kids. Doesn't affect ME in the least, since I am a rich white American. But that DOES hurt the poor black kids living near me by making them less likely to rise above poverty. The result being that Rich White American Me gets to be unaffected by abominable social policies that **** all over the struggling lower class. And hey, as an added benefit, my white gated community gets to remain white! Everyone wins (except for the poor, but **** them). Let's institute such horrible and unethical social policies as a reaction to a "crisis" which actually DOES NOT EXIST. :roll:

Or we could talk about WHY certain nations and certain demographics tend to have such high population growth, and fix the CAUSES of population growth. If countries with HUGE segments of the population in absolute poverty tend to have the HIGHEST population growth rates, and countries full of rich people tend to have the LOWEST rates of population growth, maybe we could solve the "population crisis" by focusing on geting more people out of poverty? Maybe instead of ****ing on the poor and making it even more difficult for the poor to escape poverty, perhaps we could solve the "population crisis" by helping more people to GET OUT OF POVERTY?

I don't know, it's just an idea. Probably a stupiud one at that.

[QUOTE="helium_flash"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Affirmative Action!Theokhoth

So do I. But now WE'LL have it!:twisted:

It's still needed.

I honestly think there should be put a cap on how many children each person can have. It's ridiculous some people have so many. I can't tell you how many hispanic mothers I've known on welfare whom have sooo many children she can't even care for. Absurd. (No, that does not apply to hispanics only, it's for all people who have tons of children they can't care for)_Marisa_

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[QUOTE="helium_flash"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Affirmative Action!btaylor2404

So do I. But now WE'LL have it!:twisted:

It's still needed.

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[QUOTE="helium_flash"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Affirmative Action!helium_flash

So do I. But now WE'LL have it!:twisted:

It's still needed.

Yes, if you don't think we have the upper hand you haven't been in the workforce long enough.

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[QUOTE="helium_flash"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Affirmative Action!btaylor2404

So do I. But now WE'LL have it!:twisted:

It's still needed.

Yes, if you don't think we have the upper hand you haven't been in the workforce long enough.

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]I honestly think there should be put a cap on how many children each person can have. It's ridiculous some people have so many. I can't tell you how many hispanic mothers I've known on welfare whom have sooo many children she can't even care for. Absurd. (No, that does not apply to hispanics only, it's for all people who have tons of children they can't care for)Rhazakna

So the government should decidehow many children people should be allowed to have? And what happens if they get pregnant after they hit the limit? Government enforced abortions? What a world you imagine.

Ask China for the answer to all those questions.

Ok so? By then many of us will be mixed races. I'm mixed and i love it. Racial profiling will become a joke by then since you can categorize a mixed person as a single race.

Might as well start taking photos of everyone once a year.

Does it matter? In a few hundred years, different races will mate and there will probably be only one 'race of humans' on the planet, if you understand what I'm trying to say. It's just a skin colour.

The only people bothered are racists.

Unfortunately, neither Obama or McCain seems to have the courage or the will to deal with this problem. I guess I'll have to wait till 2012 :(. Or move to Canada. I hear Montreal is nice...Slaveways

*prepares to become incredibly lazy and blame the majority race for all my problems*famicommander