Who do you believe is the world's greatest leader?

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#1 hgasf006
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In my opinion I believe that Alexander the Great of Greece was the best leader because of his tactics and influences on his empire. So OT, what is your leader of choice?
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Obama just cuz he killed Osama

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Obama just cuz he killed Osama

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Then George Washington is less of a leader than Obama?
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Kim Jong-un.

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Balla extraordinaire.

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#5 hgasf006
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Kim Jong-un.

Balla extraordinaire.

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I agree, one of the best...
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Alexander, Cyrus, George Washington, and Stalin are some of the greatest to me.

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#7 hadoken
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only weak humans need a leader
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Kim Jong-un.

Balla extraordinaire.

Dylan_11

Dude needs to try Wii Fit or Slimfast.

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#10 RisethNameless
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Hitler

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#11 AussieePet
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[QUOTE="AussieePet"]

Obama just cuz he killed Osama

hgasf006

Then George Washington is less of a leader than Obama?

I don't know much about his leadership D:

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#12 hgasf006
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only weak humans need a leaderhadoken
Well congratulations! You and 5 billion other people are weak.
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#13 hgasf006
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[QUOTE="hgasf006"][QUOTE="AussieePet"]

Obama just cuz he killed Osama

AussieePet

Then George Washington is less of a leader than Obama?

I don't know much about his leadership D:

Fair enough.
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Hitler

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Arguably he was one of the most increadible leaders of all time. Just a shame he was off his rocker.
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#15 Dylan_11
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[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]

Kim Jong-un.

Balla extraordinaire.

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Dude needs to try Wii Fit or Slimfast.

He weighs two hundred and fifty pounds. All muscle.
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#16 hgasf006
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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]

Kim Jong-un.

Balla extraordinaire.

Dylan_11

Dude needs to try Wii Fit or Slimfast.

He weighs two hundred and fifty pounds. All muscle.

He looks good.
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#18 hadoken
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[QUOTE="hadoken"]only weak humans need a leaderhgasf006
Well congratulations! You and 5 billion other people are weak.

i break laws and i dont care about government or politics, therefore not being led, kid
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#19 JML897
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[QUOTE="RisethNameless"]

Hitler

Overlord93

Arguably he was one of the most increadible leaders of all time. Just a shame he was off his rocker.

In some areas he was good but the whole "killing tons of your own people" thing makes it impossible for me to call him "incredible".

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[QUOTE="RisethNameless"]

Hitler

Overlord93

Arguably he was one of the most increadible leaders of all time. Just a shame he was off his rocker.

His mistakes cost the Germans World War II.

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#21 RisethNameless
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[QUOTE="RisethNameless"]

Hitler

Overlord93
Arguably he was one of the most increadible leaders of all time. Just a shame he was off his rocker.

True that, I wonder what the world would be like if he got his way...
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Alexander the Great was actually from Macedonia. Greek was just a collection of city-states, but he did not conquer them all. Sparta, for example.

Since you're asking about the greatest of all time...

I think a great leader should be judged by more than what he does while living. For example, Ghengis Khan could have conquered the world, but after he died, his empire was a shadow of it's former self. Julius Caesar managed to unify Rome and it did fairly when until Commodus became ruler.

I would say Jesus. He sparked the change of the entire western world and the effects of his actions are still felt today. Regardless of whether or not you believe he was the son of God, his actions have affected billions of people. Though, not all actions inhis or God's nameare what I would call great.

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Genghis Khan.
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#24 CajunMadePunk
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There is no world's greatest leader because every leader has his flaws.
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#25 ThumpyBowser
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President Obama A lot of people just don't seem to understand the fact that we are so lucky to have a man who has extremely rare attributes. He is both black and white. He is intelligent,compassionate and courageous. His integrity is second to none. You may choose to argue about his priorities. Should he have done jobs before healthcare? Should he have fought for more stimulus? but you can't argue with his intentions. Take a look at what he has accomplished in his first 2 years...

  • Changed failing war strategy in Afghanistan
  • Increased funding for national parks and forests in 2010, and plans to do it again for FY 2011
  • Created and sustained 2.1 million jobs and stimulated the economy 3.5% [as of December 31, 2009] through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act
  • Enhanced earth mapping
  • Empowered states that legalized medical marijuana to regulate themselves. Fourteen states have allowed some use of marijuana for medical purposes
  • Strengthened theEndangered Species Act
  • Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs the largest spending increase in 30 years to improve medical facilities and national cemeteries, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities
  • Announced theMaking Home Affordablehome refinancing plan
  • Ended DADT

Many more has been accomplished... Hope is not instant and neither is change you need to believe and put forth your own effort.

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#26 Steameffekt
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Clinton.

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#27 branketra
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President Obama A lot of people just don't seem to understand the fact that we are so lucky to have a man who has extremely rare attributes. He is both black and white. He is intelligent,compassionate and courageous. His integrity is second to none. You may choose to argue about his priorities. Should he have done jobs before healthcare? Should he have fought for more stimulus? but you can't argue with his intentions. Take a look at what he has accomplished in his first 2 years...

  • Changed failing war strategy in Afghanistan
  • Increased funding for national parks and forests in 2010, and plans to do it again for FY 2011
  • Created and sustained 2.1 million jobs and stimulated the economy 3.5% [as of December 31, 2009] through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act
  • Enhanced earth mapping
  • Empowered states that legalized medical marijuana to regulate themselves. Fourteen states have allowed some use of marijuana for medical purposes
  • Strengthened theEndangered Species Act
  • Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs the largest spending increase in 30 years to improve medical facilities and national cemeteries, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities
  • Announced theMaking Home Affordablehome refinancing plan
  • Ended DADT

Many more has been accomplished... Hope is not instant and neither is change you need to believe and put forth your own effort.

ThumpyBowser

I think the cons of a leader should be given, as well, when talking about them, to prevent giving an inaccurate image. Just my two cents.

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#28 taterfrickintot
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Either Winston Churchill or Theodore Roosevelt.

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My leader is someone who will be able to stop the hate between people,and instead of looking at color/religion/gender etc.....,someone who will unite humans under humanity and call them only humans.
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#30 groovdafied
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[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]

Kim Jong-un.

Balla extraordinaire.

sherman-tank1

Dude needs to try Wii Fit or Slimfast.

How about sex? He looks so lost, confused and unhappy.
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President Obama A lot of people just don't seem to understand the fact that we are so lucky to have a man who has extremely rare attributes. He is both black and white. He is intelligent,compassionate and courageous. His integrity is second to none. You may choose to argue about his priorities. Should he have done jobs before healthcare? Should he have fought for more stimulus? but you can't argue with his intentions. Take a look at what he has accomplished in his first 2 years...

  • Changed failing war strategy in Afghanistan
  • Increased funding for national parks and forests in 2010, and plans to do it again for FY 2011
  • Created and sustained 2.1 million jobs and stimulated the economy 3.5% [as of December 31, 2009] through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act
  • Enhanced earth mapping
  • Empowered states that legalized medical marijuana to regulate themselves. Fourteen states have allowed some use of marijuana for medical purposes
  • Strengthened theEndangered Species Act
  • Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs the largest spending increase in 30 years to improve medical facilities and national cemeteries, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities
  • Announced theMaking Home Affordablehome refinancing plan
  • Ended DADT

Many more has been accomplished... Hope is not instant and neither is change you need to believe and put forth your own effort.

ThumpyBowser
Not only that, but he was handed over a country while it's starting to roll over in ****, you try fixing a nation after it's been screwed...
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#32 superfluidity
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Thomas Jefferson:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

Also, Louisiana Purchase.

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[QUOTE="Dylan_11"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Dude needs to try Wii Fit or Slimfast.

hgasf006

He weighs two hundred and fifty pounds. All muscle.

He looks good.

I would tap that.

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Me

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None in recent history.

>Barack Obama

LULZ

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Me

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Can I be your right hand?
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Hmm.. Well I would have to research to come up with a conclusion but it is probably going to be a leader that no one has ever heard of because only the war-mongers are remembered through history.
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George Washington
Theodore Roosevelt

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Recent history?

Lula da Silva

Angela Merkel

Anders Fogh Rasmussen

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[QUOTE="Overlord93"][QUOTE="RisethNameless"]

Hitler

RisethNameless
Arguably he was one of the most increadible leaders of all time. Just a shame he was off his rocker.

True that, I wonder what the world would be like if he got his way...

Honestly? We'd probably be more technically advanced.
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#42 Rikusaki
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Hitler was pretty incredible.

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Obama just cuz he killed Osama

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I am gonna pop through your computer screen and poo on you. Obama is soo overrated..

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#44 hgasf006
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Genghis Khan. Bloodseeker23
That I can understand, ruling most of Asia and some of Europe
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Bob Newhart. He ran that hotel like a god.
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ITT people who are normally very liberal but they support the greatest mass-murderers of all time. Mind=blown.
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Genghis Khan.
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Prophet Joseph [p.b.u.h]; his story is found in both the Qur'an and Hebrew Bible, but I trust the Qur'an's version more. He was abandoned by his brothers, sold into slavery, was unjustly put into prison and eventually became a ruler in Egypt. Years went by and his brothers apologized for all the hell they put him through, and not only did he forgive them, but he let them live with him (I imagine Joseph's palace was far better than the old shack they were used to).

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#49 GD-1369211121
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Nobody, every leader has their flaws.

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Dio Brando