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[QUOTE="AussieePet"]Then George Washington is less of a leader than Obama?Obama just cuz he killed Osama
hgasf006
I don't know much about his leadership D:
Arguably he was one of the most increadible leaders of all time. Just a shame he was off his rocker.Hitler
RisethNameless
[QUOTE="RisethNameless"]Arguably he was one of the most increadible leaders of all time. Just a shame he was off his rocker.Hitler
Overlord93
In some areas he was good but the whole "killing tons of your own people" thing makes it impossible for me to call him "incredible".
[QUOTE="RisethNameless"]Arguably he was one of the most increadible leaders of all time. Just a shame he was off his rocker.His mistakes cost the Germans World War II.Hitler
Overlord93
[QUOTE="RisethNameless"]Arguably he was one of the most increadible leaders of all time. Just a shame he was off his rocker.True that, I wonder what the world would be like if he got his way...Hitler
Overlord93
Alexander the Great was actually from Macedonia. Greek was just a collection of city-states, but he did not conquer them all. Sparta, for example.
Since you're asking about the greatest of all time...
I think a great leader should be judged by more than what he does while living. For example, Ghengis Khan could have conquered the world, but after he died, his empire was a shadow of it's former self. Julius Caesar managed to unify Rome and it did fairly when until Commodus became ruler.
I would say Jesus. He sparked the change of the entire western world and the effects of his actions are still felt today. Regardless of whether or not you believe he was the son of God, his actions have affected billions of people. Though, not all actions inhis or God's nameare what I would call great.
President Obama A lot of people just don't seem to understand the fact that we are so lucky to have a man who has extremely rare attributes. He is both black and white. He is intelligent,compassionate and courageous. His integrity is second to none. You may choose to argue about his priorities. Should he have done jobs before healthcare? Should he have fought for more stimulus? but you can't argue with his intentions. Take a look at what he has accomplished in his first 2 years...
Many more has been accomplished... Hope is not instant and neither is change you need to believe and put forth your own effort.
I think the cons of a leader should be given, as well, when talking about them, to prevent giving an inaccurate image. Just my two cents.President Obama A lot of people just don't seem to understand the fact that we are so lucky to have a man who has extremely rare attributes. He is both black and white. He is intelligent,compassionate and courageous. His integrity is second to none. You may choose to argue about his priorities. Should he have done jobs before healthcare? Should he have fought for more stimulus? but you can't argue with his intentions. Take a look at what he has accomplished in his first 2 years...
- Changed failing war strategy in Afghanistan
- Increased funding for national parks and forests in 2010, and plans to do it again for FY 2011
- Created and sustained 2.1 million jobs and stimulated the economy 3.5% [as of December 31, 2009] through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act
- Enhanced earth mapping
- Empowered states that legalized medical marijuana to regulate themselves. Fourteen states have allowed some use of marijuana for medical purposes
- Strengthened theEndangered Species Act
- Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs the largest spending increase in 30 years to improve medical facilities and national cemeteries, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities
- Announced theMaking Home Affordablehome refinancing plan
- Ended DADT
Many more has been accomplished... Hope is not instant and neither is change you need to believe and put forth your own effort.
ThumpyBowser
Dude needs to try Wii Fit or Slimfast. How about sex? He looks so lost, confused and unhappy.[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]
Kim Jong-un.
Balla extraordinaire.
sherman-tank1
Not only that, but he was handed over a country while it's starting to roll over in ****, you try fixing a nation after it's been screwed...President Obama A lot of people just don't seem to understand the fact that we are so lucky to have a man who has extremely rare attributes. He is both black and white. He is intelligent,compassionate and courageous. His integrity is second to none. You may choose to argue about his priorities. Should he have done jobs before healthcare? Should he have fought for more stimulus? but you can't argue with his intentions. Take a look at what he has accomplished in his first 2 years...
- Changed failing war strategy in Afghanistan
- Increased funding for national parks and forests in 2010, and plans to do it again for FY 2011
- Created and sustained 2.1 million jobs and stimulated the economy 3.5% [as of December 31, 2009] through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act
- Enhanced earth mapping
- Empowered states that legalized medical marijuana to regulate themselves. Fourteen states have allowed some use of marijuana for medical purposes
- Strengthened theEndangered Species Act
- Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs the largest spending increase in 30 years to improve medical facilities and national cemeteries, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities
- Announced theMaking Home Affordablehome refinancing plan
- Ended DADT
Many more has been accomplished... Hope is not instant and neither is change you need to believe and put forth your own effort.
ThumpyBowser
Thomas Jefferson:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"
Also, Louisiana Purchase.
[QUOTE="Dylan_11"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Dude needs to try Wii Fit or Slimfast.He weighs two hundred and fifty pounds. All muscle. He looks good.hgasf006
I would tap that.
[QUOTE="Overlord93"][QUOTE="RisethNameless"]Arguably he was one of the most increadible leaders of all time. Just a shame he was off his rocker.True that, I wonder what the world would be like if he got his way... Honestly? We'd probably be more technically advanced.Hitler
RisethNameless
I am gonna pop through your computer screen and poo on you. Obama is soo overrated..Obama just cuz he killed Osama
AussieePet
Prophet Joseph [p.b.u.h]; his story is found in both the Qur'an and Hebrew Bible, but I trust the Qur'an's version more. He was abandoned by his brothers, sold into slavery, was unjustly put into prison and eventually became a ruler in Egypt. Years went by and his brothers apologized for all the hell they put him through, and not only did he forgive them, but he let them live with him (I imagine Joseph's palace was far better than the old shack they were used to).
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