Me! Basically programming in a nutshell is giving a list of orders which the computer executes in the order they are listed. You can limit under which circumstances these orders are executed.
I know how to do HTML and I have been learning Java on my own...I wouldn't consider myself enough of an expert to be able to give you advice though. :(
(Why the hell does gamespot block the word clas(s) does it really think I'm trying to spell arse??!?!?) JigglyWiggly_
It blocks clas$ because there's an exploit that becomes available because they don't validate their inputs properly >_>
On topic (I guess because that was to do with code it was kinda on topic, but anyway...) : I know HTML, CSS, VB.NET and Actionscript (flash's scripting language) fairly fluently.
I entered uni into a computer science program back in September....dropped out yesterday because i really lost interest. Learning the basics is pretty simple, just logical stuff, but it definitely gets alot more complex as you progress. I was doing programming in Python and in high school i learned some C++, Java and Visual Basic.
I'm kind of surprised that they're starting you off with Java. They started us off with Visual Basic (I hate VB... it's irrational, but it's there), then moved us on to C++ and Java.
Personally, I love it. It's like assembling a puzzle from pieces you create yourself. There's no better feeling in the world than getting a program you wrote to run as it's intended to run (well, except for... you know :P...).
spazzx625
VB isn't a true OOP language, that's likely the reason. Also, I don't know any companies that use VB exclusively like that do with C++ or C#/Java VB is NOT a programming language,it's simply a program that creates another programs as for me,I'm actually planning on taking the SCJP exam SCJP stands for Sun Certified Java Programmer I really like Java and I think everybody who wants to become a programmer should begin with Java or Python
[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="mhh91"] VB is NOT a programming language,it's simply a program that creates another programs No, it's a programming language... how is it a programming language when you can only use it inside the IDE ?
[QUOTE="GazaAli"]Dont get near Java, its outdated. Go with C#, very strong and easy to learn, with great support from MS.mhh91
Can you back this up with something less subjective ?
Anything .NET is current technology. But, as I said, C# is just the "in" language, I think vb.net does more and is easier to develop in. But to each his/her own.
[QUOTE="mhh91"][QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="mhh91"] VB is NOT a programming language,it's simply a program that creates another programs No, it's a programming language... how is it a programming language when you can only use it inside the IDE ?The language being in an IDE doesn't negate that it's a language. I don't understand your logic at all.
[QUOTE="mhh91"][QUOTE="GazaAli"]Dont get near Java, its outdated. Go with C#, very strong and easy to learn, with great support from MS.UltimoIce
Can you back this up with something less subjective ?
Anything .NET is current technology. But, as I said, C# is just the "in" language, I think vb.net does more and is easier to develop in. But to each his/her own.
he says Java is outdated,I want to know why he said that
[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="mhh91"][QUOTE="spazzx625"] No, it's a programming language... how is it a programming language when you can only use it inside the IDE ?The language being in an IDE doesn't negate that it's a language. I don't understand your logic at all. VB does not have a compiler,not even an interpreter,so I don't consider it a language really it's closer to a scripting language,it's like using python with a GUI Toolkit
[QUOTE="mhh91"] VB does not have a compiler,not even an interpreter,so I don't consider it a language really it's closer to a scripting language,it's like using python with a GUI Toolkit It's based off a scripting language and there are scripting offshoots (VBA) but I see what you're getting at.
[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="mhh91"] VB does not have a compiler,not even an interpreter,so I don't consider it a language really it's closer to a scripting language,it's like using python with a GUI Toolkit It's based off a scripting language and there are scripting offshoots (VBA) but I see what you're getting at. to further clarify what I mean,somebody here said that a lot of people don't take VB seriously,let's just say that I'm one of those people :D most things in VB have to be done with components(.ocx files),which are written in another language,which means that VB is useful only for handling windows forms,which is all languages in Visual Studio even netbeans has a Visual GUI Editor now :D
[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="mhh91"][QUOTE="spazzx625"] No, it's a programming language... how is it a programming language when you can only use it inside the IDE ?The language being in an IDE doesn't negate that it's a language. I don't understand your logic at all. It's not logic, he's just wrong. He's debating fact; VB is a programming language.
[QUOTE="mhh91"] Can you back this up with something less subjective ?mhh91
Anything .NET is current technology. But, as I said, C# is just the "in" language, I think vb.net does more and is easier to develop in. But to each his/her own.
he says Java is outdated,I want to know why he said that
Java loves to outdate itself. The Sun people really don't like other people messing with their language and improving it, which is why C# came around to begin with. So, though it is not outdated per se, it is definitely losing its support more and more as time goes on.
took c/c++ in college. was never a big fan of programming. i do computer hardware design now and oddly enough most of what i do is programming.. except the code has to be turned into real hardware.
[QUOTE="GazaAli"]Dont get near Java, its outdated. Go with C#, very strong and easy to learn, with great support from MS.mhh91
Can you back this up with something less subjective ? Beside the platform independence advantage, i cant see any other advantage in Java. Its slow, and i mean really slow. The support isnt that great. C# and the .NET has a major corporation called MS that supports it, so i hope you see the point.
Anything .NET is current technology. But, as I said, C# is just the "in" language, I think vb.net does more and is easier to develop in. But to each his/her own.
kamikaze_pigmy
he says Java is outdated,I want to know why he said that
Java loves to outdate itself. The Sun people really don't like other people messing with their language and improving it, which is why C# came around to begin with. So, though it is not outdated per se, it is definitely losing its support more and more as time goes on.
Java is the No.1 programming language according to usage around the world,C++ is second
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C# is more closed source than java,for your information Microsoft takes 0% input from the language users,Java however creates the specification through a process called Java community process,which is based on the community,of course
[QUOTE="mhh91"][QUOTE="GazaAli"]Dont get near Java, its outdated. Go with C#, very strong and easy to learn, with great support from MS.GazaAli
Can you back this up with something less subjective ? Beside the platform independence advantage, i cant see any other advantage in Java. Its slow, and i mean really slow. The support isnt that great. C# and the .NET has a major corporation called MS that supports it, so i hope you see the point. What version of Java have you tried working with? my PC runs Java programs just as fast as C# programs as for support,what do you mean by support exactly ?
[QUOTE="mhh91"][QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="mhh91"] Can you back this up with something less subjective ? Beside the platform independence advantage, i cant see any other advantage in Java. Its slow, and i mean really slow. The support isnt that great. C# and the .NET has a major corporation called MS that supports it, so i hope you see the point. What version of Java have you tried working with? my PC runs Java programs just as fast as C# programs as for support,what do you mean by support exactly ? I update my JDK frequently, so im up to date. im using NetBeans as the IDE. I tried C#, and liked it alot. its like Java, but super fast on my computer. as for the support issue, i feel that Java dont get improved enough, dont include things to make programming easier. last semester i worked with Java to connect to an SQL 2008 server, and it was a nightmare.
I will be doing some programming subjects in my upcoming semester at university (I think I'm learning Java). I haven't done much programming before so I'm wondering what's it like to be a computer programmer? and what experiences have you had when you first learned programming.
Also any advice would be great too.
Thanks
Rising_Star89
My cousin is/was taking an online C++ course and taught me some over summer 2008, but I only got as far as looping. I'm taking HTML right now, it seems easier than cpp, plus you don't need a compiler (or a compilah as my cousin and I call it), all you need is notepad or wordpad. But cpp is more versatile than html, all html does is program websites.
Yeah, I took a Java class last semester and I'm taking another one this semester. I'm a second-semester freshman in college, and my major is Computer Science, so this is what I expect to do for a living. It's challenging but logical, so once you learn it and have a good handle on it, it makes sense. It's interesting if you like to solve problems, deal with logic, create things, etc. If you're concerned, maybe you should read through your book before the class, or look online for tips on Java. There are lots of Java sites around. I like programming overall. It's interesting, and you actually feel like you're doing something with it. It's tricky for sure, but like I said, it's also very logical.
I've been purely a Java developer for the past 10 years. Prior to that, I worked in Pascal, C, C++ and assembly. I start my first .NET project next week. I must admit I was a little surprised to hear I'll be working in VB. I know it's just my inexperience with the language and Microsoft-centric tools in general, but I never realized that VB was so popular.
[QUOTE="mhh91"] Can you back this up with something less subjective ?mhh91
Anything .NET is current technology. But, as I said, C# is just the "in" language, I think vb.net does more and is easier to develop in. But to each his/her own.
he says Java is outdated,I want to know why he said that It's not... java keeps getting faster, c# might be faster but not insanely faster. Though it is very similar to java. But don't worry, java isn't going anywhere.
Anything .NET is current technology. But, as I said, C# is just the "in" language, I think vb.net does more and is easier to develop in. But to each his/her own.
JigglyWiggly_
he says Java is outdated,I want to know why he said that It's not... java keeps getting faster, c# might be faster but not insanely faster. Though it is very similar to java. But don't worry, java isn't going anywhere. Which is a shame; Java is so overflowing with frameworks and infrastructures that I tend to spend more time getting whatever latest greatest environment set up and screwing around with build paths, etc than doing actual productive work.
If you want to survive your CS Bachelors, learn to google. Your professors will go over a lot of theory and what not, but rarely do they actually go over actual code implementations. If you have a good TA, he/she'll actually go over how to write code. Otherwise, Google is your best friend for everything else.
If you want to survive your CS Bachelors, learn to google. Your professors will go over a lot of theory and what not, but rarely do they actually go over actual code implementations. If you have a good TA, he/she'll actually go over how to write code. Otherwise, Google is your best friend for everything else.
xionvalkyrie
Oh man, I wish I had had Google (or, you know, the web) for the few CS classes I took back in the day :cry:
I took a java class (even though im a math major, i was required to do so) and i had the longest headaches figuring out where i made the error. It was still a fun class though.
I took a java class (even though im a math major, i was required to do so) and i had the longest headaches figuring out where i made the error. It was still a fun class though. Dante2710
If you use the Eclipse editor, it finds the errors as you go along...it saves the headaches later on.
[QUOTE="Dante2710"]I took a java class (even though im a math major, i was required to do so) and i had the longest headaches figuring out where i made the error. It was still a fun class though. Sky-
If you use the Eclipse editor, it finds the errors as you go along...it saves the headaches later on.
Everyone at my work uses Eclipse...I'm a big fan of Net Beans, though.
[QUOTE="Dante2710"]I took a java class (even though im a math major, i was required to do so) and i had the longest headaches figuring out where i made the error. It was still a fun class though. Sky-
If you use the Eclipse editor, it finds the errors as you go along...it saves the headaches later on.
Professor never mentioned that.......i think we use something called netbeans :lol:
[QUOTE="Dante2710"]I took a java class (even though im a math major, i was required to do so) and i had the longest headaches figuring out where i made the error. It was still a fun class though. Sky-
If you use the Eclipse editor, it finds the errors as you go along...it saves the headaches later on.
i dont think he means syntax error, i think they are semantic errors. Or else, he had been coding with Notepad :lol:
[QUOTE="Dante2710"]I took a java class (even though im a math major, i was required to do so) and i had the longest headaches figuring out where i made the error. It was still a fun class though. spazzx625
If you use the Eclipse editor, it finds the errors as you go along...it saves the headaches later on.
Everyone at my work uses Eclipse...I'm a big fan of Net Beans, though.I too like Net Beans. :D
If you want to survive your CS Bachelors, learn to google. Your professors will go over a lot of theory and what not, but rarely do they actually go over actual code implementations. If you have a good TA, he/she'll actually go over how to write code. Otherwise, Google is your best friend for everything else.
xaos
Oh man, I wish I had had Google (or, you know, the web) for the few CS classes I took back in the day :cry: what killed me was that a lot of my programming classes were done in unix and the profs. just assumed we were all unix experts coming in... so that made things VERY difficult. they're should have been like a tutorial class in basic unix skill at least before dumping assignments on us with no idea how to even use the debugger properly.. :(
[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="Dante2710"]Professor never mentioned that.......i think we use something called netbeans :lol: Dante2710
Net Beans does it too :x pffft, does not. Scary part was trying to compile what you just wrote and it would fail. You would fail! :x :cry: I love you, Net Beans!
what killed me was that a lot of my programming classes were done in unix and the profs. just assumed we were all unix experts coming in... so that made things VERY difficult. they're should have been like a tutorial class in basic unix skill at least before dumping assignments on us with no idea how to even use the debugger properly.. :( comp_atkins
That's how one of my first classes was too..."Introduction to Unix", but we were expected to already know VI and Perl. :|
[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="spazzx625"] Net Beans does it too :x pffft, does not. Scary part was trying to compile what you just wrote and it would fail. You would fail! :x :cry: I love you, Net Beans! I think Professors have some kind of a contract with Net Beans.
[QUOTE="GazaAli"] I think Professors have some kind of a contract with Net Beans. You can download the JDK with Net Beans in one complete package from Sun, that's probably why
[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] I think Professors have some kind of a contract with Net Beans. You can download the JDK with Net Beans in one complete package from Sun, that's probably why yea a cool package indeed.
[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]what killed me was that a lot of my programming classes were done in unix and the profs. just assumed we were all unix experts coming in... so that made things VERY difficult. they're should have been like a tutorial class in basic unix skill at least before dumping assignments on us with no idea how to even use the debugger properly.. :( spazzx625
That's how one of my first classes was too..."Introduction to Unix", but we were expected to already know VI and Perl. :| No one should be expected to use vi, let alone already know it :( It exists only to stroke the nerd egos of those who enjoy memorizing command key sequences !wq
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