Who does computer programming?

[QUOTE="Sky-"]

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]I took a java class (even though im a math major, i was required to do so) and i had the longest headaches figuring out where i made the error. It was still a fun class though. spazzx625

If you use the Eclipse editor, it finds the errors as you go along...it saves the headaches later on.

As much as i am of a nerd, im too old to get in programming. I have nothing against net beans by the way :lol: Dante2710

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]I had to take a programming class to determine that I really don't want to be a programmer. But, it's different for everyone.RockysCatnipCo

My absolute favorite thing about introductory cse courses at the university was watching all of the "I love video games...so I R GONNA B CODARRRR" people. The first couple classes dropped to about 40% of the original enrollment after the first assignment was graded ;).

:cry: All of you lucky ****s and your NetBeans!!! In college, our programming instructor (who taught all of the programming courses) made us use TextPad because a proper IDE would have been a "crutch." :cry:

...of course, once we got to our capstone project, we jumped on NetBeans to create all of our GUIs... ;)

I'm kind of surprised that they're starting you off with Java. They started us off with Visual Basic (I hate VB... it's irrational, but it's there), then moved us on to C++ and Java.

OrkHammer007

Lucky you. They started us off with COBOL. This was back in the 90's, though.

Programming is 50% knowing the code and 50% knowing how to organize and prioritize. It's difficult to learn and more difficult to learn well, but if you do, all kinds of things become possible.

If you don't want to be stuck with the thankless grunt work, pair up your Computer Science with something else, like a business degree, geology (work in the oil industry), astronomy, physics, etc. With JUST a programing degree, you'll be the 'fast-food employee' of the IT world. Make sure you have something else you can use IN ADDITION TO your computer science and all kinds of doors will open.

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

I'm kind of surprised that they're starting you off with Java. They started us off with Visual Basic (I hate VB... it's irrational, but it's there), then moved us on to C++ and Java.

br0kenrabbit

Lucky you. They started us off with COBOL. This was back in the 90's, though.

Programming is 50% knowing the code and 50% knowing how to organize and prioritize. It's difficult to learn and more difficult to learn well, but if you do, all kinds of things become possible.

If you don't want to be stuck with the thankless grunt work, pair up your Computer Science with something else, like a business degree, geology (work in the oil industry), astronomy, physics, etc. With JUST a programing degree, you'll be the 'fast-food employee' of the IT world. Make sure you have something else you can use IN ADDITION TO your computer science and all kinds of doors will open.

I'm another big fan of netbeans :)

[QUOTE="Sky-"] You can download the JDK with Net Beans in one complete package from Sun, that's probably whyspazzx625

btw,exceptions are used to protect your code from errors,I don't know how C# handles them,that's what I'm about to learn these days,I'm trying to learn C# now

:cry: All of you lucky ****s and your NetBeans!!! In college, our programming instructor (who taught all of the programming courses) made us use TextPad because a proper IDE would have been a "crutch." :cry:

...of course, once we got to our capstone project, we jumped on NetBeans to create all of our GUIs... ;)

OrkHammer007

*Raises hand* One thing, IDEs are your friend. Some people think they're cool because they program without IDEs, they're not. They just like to seem cool as they work slower and often make more errors. The cool thing about something like Eclipse is that you can think of a function name that you think should do what you're trying to accomplish so you start typing a related word and you see exactly what you want in a list. Bam, hours saved from writing your own (and likely less efficient) code or minutes from looking it up in some index.

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

:cry: All of you lucky ****s and your NetBeans!!! In college, our programming instructor (who taught all of the programming courses) made us use TextPad because a proper IDE would have been a "crutch." :cry:

...of course, once we got to our capstone project, we jumped on NetBeans to create all of our GUIs... ;)

mhh91

[QUOTE="mhh91"][QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

:cry: All of you lucky ****s and your NetBeans!!! In college, our programming instructor (who taught all of the programming courses) made us use TextPad because a proper IDE would have been a "crutch." :cry:

...of course, once we got to our capstone project, we jumped on NetBeans to create all of our GUIs... ;)

OrkHammer007

I think the best programming language is Python.

I think the best programming language is Python.

Khoaki

You Eclipse users, I am a netbeans guy. My friend always is like WHY DO YOU USE NETBEANS, I am like cuz it's better noob. In which we get into heated arguments on how eclipse makes casting easier and nonsense. I don't know how to do the C++ plugin in Eclipse though, only know in netbeans with cygwin. I hate visual studio btw, for c++ at least.

Oh and if any of you people know Assembly, you are amazing. Or LISP... they are not for me... I hate working with drivers and all those interrupts and D:

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

I'm kind of surprised that they're starting you off with Java. They started us off with Visual Basic (I hate VB... it's irrational, but it's there), then moved us on to C++ and Java.

br0kenrabbit

Lucky you. They started us off with COBOL. This was back in the 90's, though.

Programming is 50% knowing the code and 50% knowing how to organize and prioritize. It's difficult to learn and more difficult to learn well, but if you do, all kinds of things become possible.

If you don't want to be stuck with the thankless grunt work, pair up your Computer Science with something else, like a business degree, geology (work in the oil industry), astronomy, physics, etc. With JUST a programing degree, you'll be the 'fast-food employee' of the IT world. Make sure you have something else you can use IN ADDITION TO your computer science and all kinds of doors will open.

Prior to doing my computer science degree I also did a course in networking, and I will be doing a double major at university as well, so I could go down the networking path if I want to.

All I know is C#, some Python and not enough C++ to make anything worthwile. Of course Java is like C# so i could probably make as much in Java as in C#. Of course C# is a .NET language so ASP.NET basically isnt that much of a problem. SQL or Oracle or any type or database is a must with programming imo, especially with webpages.

But I do have to learn more PHP and Javascript, direct x and 3D in the years to come.

I wouldnt worry about it cause if you like it, its fun and not really hard. I'd worry about math :D

In uni they thaught us Python for half a year, don't know what was in the second semester cause I dropped out cause of math :/ Its a shame really.

So what's the job market like for programmers? I heard that it's not what it used to be and that the pay rate keeps on getting smaller, since there's a lot of programmers but no demand by companies for them.

I am interested in programming and might go to uni this year, but haven't yet decided. I am interested in programming and I have done some VB stuff in college but I am still a newb, I know stuff like loops, if statements etc. The only thing I am worried about is maths since I heard that you need to be really good at, which I am not.