Who has had the largest infulence on history?

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I was thinking Jesus, even from hisotrical standpoint. He started the world largest religon with 2.1 billion followers.  Christianity has formed countries, destoried countries, started wars and ended wars. The Pope was and arguabliby still is the most powerful man on the planet with some infulence over 1.1 billion people, and more if including world leaders.

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Xbox360gamer1

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Romulus, easily. If it weren't for Rome Jesus wouldn't have been born.that1guy435

Incorrect....

[QUOTE="that1guy435"]Romulus, easily. If it weren't for Rome Jesus wouldn't have been born.LJS9502_basic

Incorrect....

About which statement?  I can agree if it's the latter but I'm not too sure on the name. 

Justin Timberlake_-B_Smooth-_

More like Michael Jackson. Or James Brown, who was Michael's biggest influence. 

Justin Timberlake_-B_Smooth-_

I second this. 

I hbave to do a report of that topic.

 

I was thinking Jesus, even from hisotrical standpoint. He started the world largest religon with 2.1 billion followers. Christianity has formed countries, destoried countries, started wars and ended wars. The Pope was and arguabliby still is the most powerful man on the planet with some infulence over 1.1 billion people, and more if including world leaders.

Xbox360gamer1

[QUOTE="that1guy435"]Romulus, easily. If it weren't for Rome Jesus wouldn't have been born.LJS9502_basic

Incorrect....

 It was the Roman Empire that executed him, the reason there were any Jews in Nazareth was because Rome had forced them there, it was because of a Roman census that he was born in Bethlahem. Rome was pretty much responsible for everything in Jesus's life, let alone the huge impact it had on all other forms of society.

Romulus, easily. If it weren't for Rome Jesus wouldn't have been born.that1guy435

[QUOTE="that1guy435"]Romulus, easily. If it weren't for Rome Jesus wouldn't have been born.UrbanSpartan125

He wouldnt have existed in the first place......something that doesnt exist can't die, that's very true

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[QUOTE="that1guy435"]Romulus, easily.If it weren't for Rome Jesus wouldn't have been born.that1guy435

Incorrect....

 It was the Roman Empire that executed him, the reason there were any Jews in Nazareth was because Rome had forced them there, it was because of a Roman census that he was born in Bethlahem. Rome was pretty much responsible for everything in Jesus's life, let alone the huge impact it had on all other forms of society.

Execution and birth....two totally different things.;)  FYI....it wasn't important in what city he was born....or exactly who executed him.  Only that he was born and died.

Let me give you a little hint on how grading works...

 Pick something interesting that no one else would think of and your paper will stand out among the others. How many of your classmates will be doing it on Jesus? 30-40%? Perhaps more. Pick something that is strange and as long as you have your reasons to back up your statement then you will get graded well.

 This is how you learn to BS your war through essays, and if you are good at it then it doesn't matter if what you wrote is completely wrong! I wrote a essay on classical mythology and completely did the opposite of what we had to pick out from the quotes. I wrote it well enough though and support my opinions that I still got an A on the paper while other people who actually wrote it on the right thing were getting C's.

Execution and birth....two totally different things.;) FYI....it wasn't important in what city he was born....or exactly who executed him. Only that he was born and died.

LJS9502_basic

Execution and birth....two totally different things.;) FYI....it wasn't important in what city he was born....or exactly who executed him. Only that he was born and died.

LJS9502_basic

OK, let's get technical. Now, we agree that most of the Jews in Nazareth wouldn't have been there if they hadn't had their asses kicked by the Roman legion. Let's go back to Mary's parents. They wouldn't have met if they weren't living in the same area. No Mary, no Jesus. And don't give me some bull**** about how "God would have chose some one else" or something. History is atheistic, get over it.

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Execution and birth....two totally different things.;) FYI....it wasn't important in what city he was born....or exactly who executed him. Only that he was born and died.

quiglythegreat

You do understand that it was the Jewish leaders, however, that wanted to be rid of him.  If they weren't under the Roman Empire they would have found another way.

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Execution and birth....two totally different things.;) FYI....it wasn't important in what city he was born....or exactly who executed him. Only that he was born and died.

that1guy435

OK, let's get technical. Now, we agree that most of the Jews in Nazareth wouldn't have been there if they hadn't had their asses kicked by the Roman legion. Let's go back to Mary's parents. They wouldn't have met if they weren't living in the same area. No Mary, no Jesus. And don't give me some bull**** about how "God would have chose some one else" or something. History is atheistic, get over it.

Hulk Hogan. Forget Jesus and his followers, what about the Hulkamaniacs?

Technically, t he Jewish people lived near other Jewish people. Period. Their world was much smaller than it is today. So nothing you posted is relavant.LJS9502_basic

 Have you ever taken a Church History class? Ever? Transportation was not easy. The journey from Nazareth to Jerusalem was a good 3+ months. They lived close together by today's standards, but not then. You have no idea what you are talking about.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Technically, t he Jewish people lived near other Jewish people. Period. Their world was much smaller than it is today. So nothing you posted is relavant.that1guy435

 Have you ever taken a Church History class? Ever? Transportation was not easy. The journey from Nazareth to Jerusalem was a good 3+ months. They lived close together by today's standards, but not then. You have no idea what you are talking about.

No, actually you don't have any idea.  You're trying to change history to suit your erroneous assumption that because Rome had a large civilization an individual wouldn't have been born without it.  Not an accurate statement to make at all....and yet, you persist.

[QUOTE="_-B_Smooth-_"]Justin Timberlakesecretsaiyan007

I second this.

i second you seconding that 

No, actually you don't have any idea. You're trying to change history to suit your erroneous assumption that because Rome had a large civilization an individual wouldn't have been born without it. Not an accurate statement to make at all....and yet, you persist.

LJS9502_basic

What are you talking about? Assuming you were born in the US, you wouldn't have been born if it weren't for the States' creation. Do you have any idea what influence even the smallest of events has? If your parents had decided to go for ice cream the night you were concieved and put off having a child until a day later, you wouldn't have been born. That's going out for ice cream, we're talking about the creation of the society that allowed two people to be living in the same general area in the first place.

Bob Dole, with his mechanical stabbing pen arm he conquered the world and brought great joy with him where ever he went.KiIIyou

Didn't he also make viagara popular?

If you're going to go for a religious figure, I'd go for Moses, because the 10 commandments which he documented are the basic rules and building blocks for society, and to me that is a bigger influence than jesus even.mattyftm

Only problem is it was Jesus who gave Moses the 10 commandments...so it just goes back to Jesus once again.  :-)

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Execution and birth....two totally different things.;) FYI....it wasn't important in what city he was born....or exactly who executed him. Only that he was born and died.

LJS9502_basic

You do understand that it was the Jewish leaders, however, that wanted to be rid of him. If they weren't under the Roman Empire they would have found another way.

No, actually you don't have any idea. You're trying to change history to suit your erroneous assumption that because Rome had a large civilization an individual wouldn't have been born without it. Not an accurate statement to make at all....and yet, you persist.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="KiIIyou"]Bob Dole, with his mechanical stabbing pen arm he conquered the world and brought great joy with him where ever he went.LJS9502_basic

Didn't he also make viagara popular?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

No, actually you don't have any idea. You're trying to change history to suit your erroneous assumption that because Rome had a large civilization an individual wouldn't have been born without it. Not an accurate statement to make at all....and yet, you persist.

that1guy435

What are you talking about? Assuming you were born in the US, you wouldn't have been born if it weren't for the States' creation. Do you have any idea what influence even the smallest of events has? If your parents had decided to go for ice cream the night you were concieved and put off having a child until a day later, you wouldn't have been born. That's going out for ice cream, we're talking about the creation of the society that allowed two people to be living in the same general area in the first place.

Wow.....stop trying to change history.  It is what it is.  Again, the Jewish community lived a small area of the world.  The Romans didn't tell them where to live....as a point of fact, do you even know where Mary's family lived....no.  It's never mentioned.  So stop with this incorrect assumption on which you base an erroneous opinion.

Only problem is it was Jesus who gave Moses the 10 commandments...so it just goes back to Jesus once again. :-)

mattyftm

What? Tell that one to a rabbi... 

[QUOTE="mattyftm"]If you're going to go for a religious figure, I'd go for Moses, because the 10 commandments which he documented are the basic rules and building blocks for society, and to me that is a bigger influence than jesus even.Joeker501

Only problem is it was Jesus who gave Moses the 10 commandments...so it just goes back to Jesus once again.  :-)

Yes but jesus wasnt in human form at the time, therefore he is not a person so cannot be counted in the most influential person in history for this act.

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No, actually you don't have any idea. You're trying to change history to suit your erroneous assumption that because Rome had a large civilization an individual wouldn't have been born without it. Not an accurate statement to make at all....and yet, you persist.

quiglythegreat

No he's not.  History is what it is....not what it could be.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Execution and birth....two totally different things.;) FYI....it wasn't important in what city he was born....or exactly who executed him. Only that he was born and died.

quiglythegreat

You do understand that it was the Jewish leaders, however, that wanted to be rid of him. If they weren't under the Roman Empire they would have found another way.

Actually they were screaming for his blood" Let his blood be on our hands, and our children's hands" is the line they used.

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Execution and birth....two totally different things.;) FYI....it wasn't important in what city he was born....or exactly who executed him. Only that he was born and died.

quiglythegreat

You do understand that it was the Jewish leaders, however, that wanted to be rid of him. If they weren't under the Roman Empire they would have found another way.

In this case, only the Bible tells that particular story.  It doesn't back up what you said.

In this case, only the Bible tells that particular story. It doesn't back up what you said.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

No, actually you don't have any idea. You're trying to change history to suit your erroneous assumption that because Rome had a large civilization an individual wouldn't have been born without it. Not an accurate statement to make at all....and yet, you persist.

LJS9502_basic

No he's not.  History is what it is....not what it could be.

History is what it is , but that's irrelevant to the discussion.....You two are discussing if jesus would have been born if the Roman empire never existed.....so your statement sounds more like a bad excuse too me