Who here is sick and tired of un-American Americans?

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]You mean people that aren't mindlessly devoted to vapid nationalism and criticize their country's decisions in the hopes of improving it? Those are called good Americans.bman784

Again, if you continued reading the thread, you would know the people he was specifying. He was not targeting liberals like yourself, so no need to get upset :roll:

There is a big difference between criticism aimed at fixing a problem and Anti Americanism.Godly_Cure

Indeed. I hope people can identify the difference.

But yes, I agree a lot of people have superifical political stances.

I dislike narrow minded cynics who, because of their particular perspective, think that every expression of political protest is motivated out of a selfish desire to "look hip" and not a compassionate moral obligation.

Don't weigh everyone on your own scales.

bradleybhoy

I don't believe anyone said every expression of political protest. I think he's talking about a specific group that is anti US for the sake of being anti US. Not for any specific cause.

Yeah, I'm so sick of the idiots who bash America and Bush left and right just because it's trendy. If you don't like the country, then get out. If you can't get out yet, then make plans to. Stop complaining and dragging the rest of us down with you. You don't have to have an American flag in every window of your house or listen to patriotic music or ANYTHING like that at ALL, but damn, have some respect for the country you're living in.

I love America, and I'm far from some all-out patriotic redneck.

Yeah, I'm so sick of the idiots who bash America and Bush left and right just because it's trendy. If you don't like the country, then get out. If you can't get out yet, then make plans to. Stop complaining and dragging the rest of us down with you. You don't have to have an American flag in every window of your house or listen to patriotic music or ANYTHING like that at ALL, but damn, have some respect for the country you're living in.

I love America, and I'm far from some all-out patriotic redneck.

t3hrubikscube

Bush deserves all the criticism he gets. I won't get out. I had respect enough to serve...that DOESN'T mean I have to like Bush.

hey this is offtopic but where do i go to change my avatar? prefs? then what?The_Mac_Daddy

Images dude...

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]

Yeah, I'm so sick of the idiots who bash America and Bush left and right just because it's trendy. If you don't like the country, then get out. If you can't get out yet, then make plans to. Stop complaining and dragging the rest of us down with you. You don't have to have an American flag in every window of your house or listen to patriotic music or ANYTHING like that at ALL, but damn, have some respect for the country you're living in.

I love America, and I'm far from some all-out patriotic redneck.

LJS9502_basic

Bush deserves all the criticism he gets. I won't get out. I had respect enough to serve...that DOESN'T mean I have to like Bush.

Hey, I'm not saying that people can't criticise him. I am not saying that at all. I love to hear other people's opinions, whether I agree with them or not. However, I get so damn sick of the stupid preteens who think they're being so political and badass and all 'down with the system' by just yelling about how dumb Bush is and how much he sucks even though they know next to nothing about him or what he's done or hasn't done.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]its definitely irritating. i blame hippies, and people who even though theyre adults still feel the need to rebel against authority for the SAKE of it.X360PS3AMD05

thats not even close to what im talking about, just keep reading it until it sinks in. it will eventually

Just so everyone knows, whining is not the same as colonist not liking taxation or the british crown.

whining is what children, and social parasites who blame the system for there failures do.

Just so everyone knows, whining is not the same as colonist not liking taxation or the british crown.

whining is what children, and social parasites who blame the system for there failures do.

H8sMikeMoore

Like whining about Michael Moore?

Their mad at America cause they have to live here cause people can't survive in the countries they come from. So for some reason I guess that's our fault.MM87

[QUOTE="MM87"]Their mad at America cause they have to live here cause people can't survive in the countries they come from. So for some reason I guess that's our fault.X360PS3AMD05

Never!

*gives arms to a despotic government*

*hands some POWs over to governments known to torture people*

*hides*

You mean you are sick of people not thinking America is the only country that has everything and all other countries are just third world slums with no electricity, running water or sanitation.

I bet you would think that Americans that have nothing against France is un-American don't you?

Personally, I am just tired of blind ignorance period, whether it be the super patriots or the anti-America propaganda.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

Just so everyone knows, whining is not the same as colonist not liking taxation or the british crown.

whining is what children, and social parasites who blame the system for there failures do.

SpaceMoose

Like whining about Michael Moore?

When did I whine about Michael Moore? I think my user name with the avatar is funny. I never even had a "discussion" about him. In order to be a smart ass, you have to be smart first ;)

The ones who side with other countries for everything. There are so many now. I've never seen it as much as in the past 3 to 5 years..The_Mac_Daddy

No offense but I think that is a very unenlightened thing to say. People have a right to express their opinion when they are no pleased with their country and recently, the US has certainly had problems.

With over 70% of the people thinking that America is headed in the wrong direction, it is time for them to start examining other countries, and adopting their practices.Engrish_Major

We're all doomed...

Why should we be more like other countries? The more we get like them the worse we do. Weve slowly been getting more and more like Europe, and now look at where were at.

We need to be more like the REAL America and have a strong free market again. Thats the only path to prosperity.

It's always white people, they're in love with Europe and want America to become Europe.R0cky_Racc00n

that's a slightly racist comment. My family is Spanish and all my sister talks about is going to europe one day.

on the topic, define "unamerican".

Why should we be more like other countries? The more we get like them the worse we do. Weve slowly been getting more and more like Europe, and now look at where were at.H8sMikeMoore

Evidence please

You mean you are sick of people not thinking America is the only country that has everything and all other countries are just third world slums with no electricity, running water or sanitation.

I bet you would think that Americans that have nothing against France is un-American don't you?

SunofVich

No.. you assume too much. Because believe it or not, I'm one of the few people I know who really doesn't have a problem with France. I have no problems with people supporting their own country, and liking things about other countries. But some people are so disrespectful to America, the country which they were born and raised in.

[QUOTE="SunofVich"]

You mean you are sick of people not thinking America is the only country that has everything and all other countries are just third world slums with no electricity, running water or sanitation.

I bet you would think that Americans that have nothing against France is un-American don't you?

The_Mac_Daddy

No.. you assume too much. Because believe it or not, I'm one of the few people I know who really doesn't have a problem with France. I have no problems with people supporting their own country, and liking things about other countries. But some people are so disrespectful to America, the country which they were born and raised in.

So if your parents raise you like crap, say lock you in a basement (making gay marriage illegal), you have to be respectful to them? Right.

[QUOTE="Godly_Cure"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]You mean people that aren't mindlessly devoted to vapid nationalism and criticize their country's decisions in the hopes of improving it? Those are called good Americans.bradleybhoy

No the good Americans come up with the plans to change things not whine about what they don't like.

If no-one calls for any change, there can be no change. :|

How do you think black Americans gained their legislative civil rights? They sure as hell didn't get it handed on a plate to them by the government who suddenly realised, "hey lets be good Americans and make a plan to change things". Protestors had to fight for every inch of ground. I'm sure there were people back then complaining about whiny uppity negroes that should be grateful for what they've got.

theres a difference in what Martin Luther King Jr. did and what you're doing right now.... a big difference. Watch the episode of the boondocks where Martin luther King comes back to life and sees what he sees. that's what they are.

Could there be a more empty statement than to disagree with someone by simply questioning their patriotism?

Take a look back at history and see what people have done who harp on patriotism as a method of forwarding their goals.

Why should we be more like other countries? The more we get like them the worse we do. Weve slowly been getting more and more like Europe, and now look at where were at.

We need to be more like the REAL America and have a strong free market again. Thats the only path to prosperity.

H8sMikeMoore

The free market is why we are where we are now.

[QUOTE="ElectronicMagic"]I think a lot of people confuse people that "hate" America with people like myself who are simply "embarrassed" by America.The_Mac_Daddy

Why would you be embarassed to be an American? That's the propoganda I'm talking about.. a lot of the news media, the internet, etc makes you feel like you should be embarassed to be American. I am g**damn f****** proud to be lucky enough to be an American.

You just contradicted your whole point. If people are "up" on current events, they have plenty of justification for their opinion about America. I thought you were upset at people who had no reason to diss America other than because other people did it, but now you're assuming that someone has a reason to be embarassed by America and you're still calling them unpatriotic.

Why should we be more like other countries? The more we get like them the worse we do. Weve slowly been getting more and more like Europe, and now look at where were at.

We need to be more like the REAL America and have a strong free market again. Thats the only path to prosperity.

H8sMikeMoore

:lol: you're nothing like Europe. How typical of you to indirectly blame others for your failures...

*chuckles* I find it quite amusing for those who complain about America and the direction its heading, saying we're all screwed due to certain people that are in charge of this country. what's funnier though is when you tell those very people "if you don't like it here, then leave," they'll get a pale look on their face and come up with an excuse as to why they can't. bluffing. thats all they're doing.IntegraBella

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

Why should we be more like other countries? The more we get like them the worse we do. Weve slowly been getting more and more like Europe, and now look at where were at.

We need to be more like the REAL America and have a strong free market again. Thats the only path to prosperity.

jointed

:lol: you're nothing like Europe. How typical of you to indirectly blame others for your failures...

Put the weed down, I never said we were LIKE europe. Keep reading what I say until it sinks in. im not blaming anyone for failures. Im saying we need to be more individualistic rather than collective.

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="SunofVich"]

You mean you are sick of people not thinking America is the only country that has everything and all other countries are just third world slums with no electricity, running water or sanitation.

I bet you would think that Americans that have nothing against France is un-American don't you?

TallicaFan2005

No.. you assume too much. Because believe it or not, I'm one of the few people I know who really doesn't have a problem with France. I have no problems with people supporting their own country, and liking things about other countries. But some people are so disrespectful to America, the country which they were born and raised in.

So if your parents raise you like crap, say lock you in a basement (making gay marriage illegal), you have to be respectful to them? Right.

First of all, America doesn't raise people like crap. Grass is always greener on the other side for some people i guess. Secondly, where your anology fails, is that if you don't like it here, you can get out.

Why should we be more like other countries? The more we get like them the worse we do. Weve slowly been getting more and more like Europe, and now look at where were at.

We need to be more like the REAL America and have a strong free market again. Thats the only path to prosperity.

H8sMikeMoore

..... and inequality.

If you had a completely free market you would have no street lights or roads and the rich would get richer while the poor get poorer. A degree of socialism is required for countries to function properly.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

Why should we be more like other countries? The more we get like them the worse we do. Weve slowly been getting more and more like Europe, and now look at where were at.

We need to be more like the REAL America and have a strong free market again. Thats the only path to prosperity.

Engrish_Major

The free market is why we are where we are now.

haha please explain how (IN DETAIL) how the free market causes housing market crashes(which is a major source of our economic problems, if anything a free market would prevent it because we constantly bail out failing banks). because im sure if you actually knew anything about the free market, you would not be saying that. anyway explain your stance and then ill explain mine.

What's Un-american anyway? Are you saying people actually have "american" and "unamerican" qualities? :? Being critical of your country, if you ask me, is a damn site better than following it blindly.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

Why should we be more like other countries? The more we get like them the worse we do. Weve slowly been getting more and more like Europe, and now look at where were at.

We need to be more like the REAL America and have a strong free market again. Thats the only path to prosperity.

Outbreak191

..... and inequality.

If you had a completely free market you would have no street lights or roads and the rich would get richer while the poor get poorer. A degree of socialism is required for countries to function properly.

Or something to that effect.

Put the weed down, I never said we were LIKE europe. Keep reading what I say until it sinks in. im not blaming anyone for failures. Im saying we need to be more individualistic rather than collective.

H8sMikeMoore

I dont understand how you can even be "like europe" when europe is an entire continant of different countries which all act very differently. :|

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

Why should we be more like other countries? The more we get like them the worse we do. Weve slowly been getting more and more like Europe, and now look at where were at.

We need to be more like the REAL America and have a strong free market again. Thats the only path to prosperity.

H8sMikeMoore

:lol: you're nothing like Europe. How typical of you to indirectly blame others for your failures...

Put the weed down, I never said we were LIKE europe. Keep reading what I say until it sinks in. im not blaming anyone for failures. Im saying we need to be more individualistic rather than collective.

You're the most "individualistic" nation in the west. You certainly don't need anymore of it.

I suggest you stay away from such ridiculous experiments...at least until your economic problems are solved.

Oh and please tell me how you're "getting more and more like Europe" then...

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

Why should we be more like other countries? The more we get like them the worse we do. Weve slowly been getting more and more like Europe, and now look at where were at.

We need to be more like the REAL America and have a strong free market again. Thats the only path to prosperity.

Outbreak191

..... and inequality.

If you had a completely free market you would have no street lights or roads and the rich would get richer while the poor get poorer. A degree of socialism is required for countries to function properly.

are you kidding me?????????????? I dont even know where to begin with this I feel like im going to vomit.

anyway I suppose this is as good as anything:

1. NOBODY IS EQUAL, AND NOBODY WILL EVER BE EQUAL GET OVER IT.

2. We would have no street lights or signs? WHERE THE HELL DID YOU GET THIS FROM? You mean to tell me someone isnt gonna make profit off of street lights and signs? LAUGHABLE AT BEST

3. How does Capitalism = Rich get richer and the poor get poorer? I really dont think you get it. a free market creates wealth for all people. Wealth trickles down as manufacturing becomes cheaper and as the currency of the country creates more value, the poorer become RICHER. The federal reserve system is declining the value of our dollar, and its not exclusively part of capitalism. Capitalism and a federal reserve system dont really work well together.

seriously do a wikipedia search or something (better than here) stop getting you views on this forum.

What's Un-american anyway? Are you saying people actually have "american" and "unamerican" qualities? :? Being critical of your country, if you ask me, is a damn site better than following it blindly.

Ninja-Hippo

Being critical is fine.. and even good. I'm talking about something different. Basically people who live here who think America is some evil superpower. Just people who bash America on everything. Government is evil. 9/11 was the government. Military sucks. blah blah.

I mean America isn't perfect but at least have a sense of pride from where you come from. I mean damn.

I'm just sick and tired of people whining. 'oh no, our leader is evil. our military is getting wiped out in iraq. we're all fat and lazy. etc. boo hoo. I'm sorry world, sorry about this war going on. I didn't want to do it but my evil government made us. i feel so embarassed.'

I've never seen so many p****** in my life.