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Just came back from the movie and MY GOD! it was REALLY good! i mean seriously very good! my god at the amount of good movies this year i saw myself crying, laughing and all sorts of other emotions while watching this movie just simply loved it!
would totally watch again and i just found out that there was a post credits scene which i missed ( just watched it off YouTube ) and i can say truly glad to know there will be more X-Men.
this movie is worth watching
I'm in my seat, in the theater waiting to see it right now.
So you're one of those annoying people who light up the theater with app nonsense?
So rude.
I was using my phone before the trailers began rolling, so I wasn't disturbing anyone. When the trailers began, I put my phone away.
Anyhow, I'm home now. The movie was amazing, second only to X2: X-Men United or perhaps on par with it (I'm conflicted). Quick Silver stole the entire movie; his sequence was the best by far. Very cool character; I hope he returns in Age of Apocalypse.
did you guys watch in imax 3D
did you guys watch in imax 3D
No. IMAX is overwhelming for me; it takes me out of the movie, because it's just too damn loud and too big. I prefer a screen of ordinary size. I thought about seeing Godzilla again, in IMAX, but I don't think I will.
I found it pretty enjoyable. I'm not going to post any spoilers but I will tell you to stay until after the credits finish rolling. There is no mid-credits scene like in all of the MCU movies but there is a post-credit scene that links this to the next movie.
Saw it last night, it was really great. Loved it, sure it's very different from the comic in a lot of ways but it's still awesome.
Here are my thoughts.
I'm in my seat, in the theater waiting to see it right now.
So you're one of those annoying people who light up the theater with app nonsense?
So rude.
Only this thing was good in the entire movie. Not even in comparison to First Class or X 2 / United. Hell The Wolverine was more entertaining lol.
I'm in my seat, in the theater waiting to see it right now.
So you're one of those annoying people who light up the theater with app nonsense?
So rude.
Only this thing was good in the entire movie. Not even in comparison to First Class or X 2 / United. Hell The Wolverine was more entertaining lol.
First Class is so overrated. It strikes my nerves when people give it critical acclaim. I'm going to make a video this weekend in which I explain why it's not a very good movie. First Class doesn't hold a candle to Days of Future Past.
I'm in my seat, in the theater waiting to see it right now.
So you're one of those annoying people who light up the theater with app nonsense?
So rude.
Only this thing was good in the entire movie. Not even in comparison to First Class or X 2 / United. Hell The Wolverine was more entertaining lol.
First Class is so overrated. It strikes my nerves when people give it critical acclaim. I'm going to make a video this weekend in which I explain why it's not a very good movie. First Class doesn't hold a candle to Days of Future Past.
NO. First class is the best movie amongst the franchise , breathed fresh life into the stale franchise of oldies mutants ( same old same old ). Hell, magneto ( Michael Fassbenders acting ) and his theme is unmatched, one of the best antagonists yet over Ian's char anyday lo.
First Class is so overrated. It strikes my nerves when people give it critical acclaim. I'm going to make a video this weekend in which I explain why it's not a very good movie. First Class doesn't hold a candle to Days of Future Past.
NO. First class is the best movie amongst the franchise , breathed fresh life into the stale franchise of oldies mutants ( same old same old ). Hell, magneto ( Michael Fassbenders acting ) and his theme is unmatched, one of the best antagonists yet over Ian's char anyday lo.
First Class has good elements, such as the one you mentioned (i.e. Magneto's portrayal), but it's a bad film as a whole.
Just saw it today. Fantastic. It has a lot of characters and quite a lot of stuff to juggle and the pacing felt really good. Way better than (for example) Nolans movies, The Dark Knight and TDKR has terrible pacing all over the place.
I feared as well because Wolverine was in it, it would essentially become "Wolverine, and friends" While he is a big plot point, it seemed to be mainly Charles Xaviers.
Credit as well, it's not really a big aspect but the movie gave viewers respect not to say "oh Peter Dinklage, he's small, he understands what it's like to be different" with some pandary shit like that. In the movie, he just happens to be a small person and that's it, nothing else about it.
Mcavoy was top notch.
Saw it this afternoon. Pretty good. The 70's stuff still had the same pacing issues that hampered my enjoyment of "First Class". The 'future' stuff was really cool though. Blink kicked ass. Also a fitting end to the characters from the original films. Felt like Singer's way of finishing what he started in a way that wasn't total SHIT like Ratner's film. Interested in where it goes from here, especially with Wolverine, considering how this ended.
Just saw it today. Fantastic. It has a lot of characters and quite a lot of stuff to juggle and the pacing felt really good. Way better than (for example) Nolans movies, The Dark Knight and TDKR has terrible pacing all over the place.
I feared as well because Wolverine was in it, it would essentially become "Wolverine, and friends" While he is a big plot point, it seemed to be mainly Charles Xaviers.
Credit as well, it's not really a big aspect but the movie gave viewers respect not to say "oh Peter Dinklage, he's small, he understands what it's like to be different" with some pandary shit like that. In the movie, he just happens to be a small person and that's it, nothing else about it.
Mcavoy was top notch.
Did you watch my review?
Saw the movie today and it was absolutely FANTASTIC! Can't quite figure out if I like this or First Class more but that doesn't really matter. I love both movies and am very happy to see the franchise be brought back to life.
Quicksilver definitely stole the movie when he was on. Was not expecting to like that character so much. He was absolutely awesome and I hope we see more of him.
Of course once again both Mcavoy and Fassbender gave top-notch performances. I really think those two are directly responsible for why I love First Class and Days of Futures Past so much. They absolutely bring their characters to life.
Gotta write me a full review still. Important thing is I loved the movie and it might end up being my fav Superhero movie of the year (yes I liked this better than Winter Soldier). Of course Guardians of the Galaxy is looking absolutely amazing and I can totally see that movie blowing me away.
Still not sure if this one is my fav movie so far this year as it has been such an abnormally good year for movies already. Really can't decide between this and The Raid 2....
Just saw it today. Fantastic. It has a lot of characters and quite a lot of stuff to juggle and the pacing felt really good. Way better than (for example) Nolans movies, The Dark Knight and TDKR has terrible pacing all over the place.
I feared as well because Wolverine was in it, it would essentially become "Wolverine, and friends" While he is a big plot point, it seemed to be mainly Charles Xaviers.
Credit as well, it's not really a big aspect but the movie gave viewers respect not to say "oh Peter Dinklage, he's small, he understands what it's like to be different" with some pandary shit like that. In the movie, he just happens to be a small person and that's it, nothing else about it.
Mcavoy was top notch.
Did you watch my review?
Na I didn't even read the thread tbh. I'll watch it now if you want.
Not really much to disagree on, pretty much agree with everything said. Abit vague in some respects in review, didn't bring up the themes for example. Xavier regaining faith kinda seemed to be the meat of the movie.
Yea, while it's easy to say "ah it's just bullshit to get Wolverine in it" (and it probably is) the character does seem to have matured from the first Xmen movies. He was basically an antisocial dick reluctantly sticking around. So when he basically sits with Xavier and tries to help him as he did with himself, that's the kinda shit that makes the movie and links it to the other movies much better.
I saw X-Men: Days of Future Past this past Friday. It was great. That Quicksilver scene is one of the best in the franchise like the Nightcrawler scene at the beginning of X2. Anyone who has seen that film most likely knows which one I am referring to. Like I said elsewhere on the internet, those sentinels were powerful and I wonder if the Avengers could beat them (they must have lost since the entire earth is dominated by them in the future). Hopefully, Bryan Singer is not really a child molester because that would make watching or owning his films a conflict of interest because I do not have any intention of supporting such a nefarious individual as one who could do those things to a child.
IMAX is overwhelming for me; it takes me out of the movie, because it's just too damn loud and too big. I prefer a screen of ordinary size. I thought about seeing Godzilla again, in IMAX, but I don't think I will.
Just got back from watching Godzilla today in IMAX, and I can't imagine watching it any other way. Still need to get around to watching First Class before I see this one.
@hallenbeck77: Did you enjoy Godzilla ?
Don't wanna sidetrack this thread, so I'll just quickly say I wound up enjoying it alot.
My party started watching it in a standard movie theater, but we decided to upgrade to IMAX 3D. That was the shortest time I had watched something in High Definition and then in 3D. The difference between the two formats is substantial and I am glad we did. 2014 has been a good year for films.
I saw X-Men: Days of Future Past this past Friday. It was great. That Quicksilver scene is one of the best in the franchise like the Nightcrawler scene at the beginning of X2. Anyone who has seen that film most likely knows which one I am referring to. Like I said elsewhere on the internet, those sentinels were powerful and I wonder if the Avengers could beat them (they must have lost since the entire earth is dominated by them in the future). Hopefully, Bryan Singer is not really a child molester because that would make watching or owning his films a conflict of interest because I do not have any intention of supporting such a nefarious individual as one who could do those things to a child.
The X-Men and the Avengers universe don't tie-in. Probably never will. Reason is that 20th Century Fox owns the license for the X-men adaptions of films and of course Disney owns the Avengers movie rights. And for money and legal reason, no tie-in.
But is kinda of fun imagining in your head about how the Avengers would get F*cked up by those Sentinels.
Just came back from the movie and MY GOD! it was REALLY good! i mean seriously very good! my god at the amount of good movies this year i saw myself crying, laughing and all sorts of other emotions while watching this movie just simply loved it!
would totally watch again and i just found out that there was a post credits scene which i missed ( just watched it off YouTube ) and i can say truly glad to know there will be more X-Men.
this movie is worth watching
I too, really enjoyed the movie. The post credit scene was pretty damn epic for a post credit scene. After the scene was over, a lot of people were saying "WTF" and scratching their heads of what just happen. Now, I am no hardcore comicbook reader, as I only read a couple here and there. But I even sorta understood what was going on with the lady creating the pyramid, Egyptians worshiping her, and the Four Horsemen admiring her in the distance. With vaguely knowing the historical backgrounds of all those three things, I know some bad things are going to happen soon (as they always do). I bet an avid comic reader could easily fit the pieces of the puzzle and could tell us.
Anyway, great movie. Really enjoyed it. (Still debating with self if this is the best X-men movie yet)
I saw X-Men: Days of Future Past this past Friday. It was great. That Quicksilver scene is one of the best in the franchise like the Nightcrawler scene at the beginning of X2. Anyone who has seen that film most likely knows which one I am referring to. Like I said elsewhere on the internet, those sentinels were powerful and I wonder if the Avengers could beat them (they must have lost since the entire earth is dominated by them in the future). Hopefully, Bryan Singer is not really a child molester because that would make watching or owning his films a conflict of interest because I do not have any intention of supporting such a nefarious individual as one who could do those things to a child.
The X-Men and the Avengers universe don't tie-in. Probably never will. Reason is that 20th Century Fox owns the license for the X-men adaptions of films and of course Disney owns the Avengers movie rights. And for money and legal reason, no tie-in.
But is kinda of fun imagining in your head about how the Avengers would get F*cked up by those Sentinels.
Even though the current Avengers and X-Men live action film rosters will remain separate so long as different companies own the rights to produce media about them, respectively, the Marvel multiverse is ultimately explicitly stated company's which I why I decided to imagine an apocalyptic battle between those "super Sentinels" and another superhero team whose main base of operations is the earth. In the past, I have also said that limiting well-connected superheroes to isolated movieverses is a shame and especially so now since the potential for their success is so high considering past and current prosperity of superhero films throughout this decade and the previous one. For example, Spiderman should be in the battle for New York in The Avengers. Hulk and Wolverine should have at least one encounter. Beast getting trained by Captain America would show an appreciation for source material and the films could feature better stories; and so on and so forth.
This is a tangent, so I will stop here and maybe make a thread about it in the future.
Saw it yesterday. It was pretty amazing, could even be best X-Men movie though it's been a while since I last watched the first ones so that's debatable. I liked how they fit in Logan's role so that it wouldn't be another Wolverine movie, with Xavier and Magneto playing their huge parts as well. Quicksilver's scenes were also fantastic.
Only thing I could maybe complain is that Raven/Mystique turned out to be unsurprisingly(to me at least) important to the plot. I felt like it was a little forced because it's Jennifer Lawrence, who's the next big thing.
I also heard that in the next movie, which will be centered around what/who we saw at the post credits scene, the First Class X-Men will be back, officially taking over from the original X-Men(their future selves), maybe featuring younger Storm, Cyclops etc. I think the original cast still has a quality movie or two to contribute. Logan, Storm, Scott and Jean who are back, maybe Gambit and I hope they would bring back Nightcrawler who mysteriously disappeared from X-Men movies. Back I guess they already made a fresh start with a steady transition from old X-Men to young ones so that's out of the question.
I also heard that in the next movie, which will be centered around what/who we saw at the post credits scene, the First Class X-Men will be back, officially taking over from the original X-Men(their future selves), maybe featuring younger Storm, Cyclops etc. I think the original cast still has a quality movie or two to contribute. Logan, Storm, Scott and Jean who are back, maybe Gambit and I hope they would bring back Nightcrawler who mysteriously disappeared from X-Men movies. Back I guess they already made a fresh start with a steady transition from old X-Men to young ones so that's out of the question.
Gambit is already confirmed to be in the next movie (Which is X-men Apocalypse) and Channing Tatum is confirmed to play him. For a time, there was talk of a Gambit movie, but I doubt there is happening because filming for Apocalypse is made to come out during May of 2016. (So filming starts next year some time)
I saw X-Men: Days of Future Past this past Friday. It was great. That Quicksilver scene is one of the best in the franchise like the Nightcrawler scene at the beginning of X2. Anyone who has seen that film most likely knows which one I am referring to. Like I said elsewhere on the internet, those sentinels were powerful and I wonder if the Avengers could beat them (they must have lost since the entire earth is dominated by them in the future). Hopefully, Bryan Singer is not really a child molester because that would make watching or owning his films a conflict of interest because I do not have any intention of supporting such a nefarious individual as one who could do those things to a child.
The X-Men and the Avengers universe don't tie-in. Probably never will. Reason is that 20th Century Fox owns the license for the X-men adaptions of films and of course Disney owns the Avengers movie rights. And for money and legal reason, no tie-in.
But is kinda of fun imagining in your head about how the Avengers would get F*cked up by those Sentinels.
Even though the current Avengers and X-Men live action film rosters will remain separate so long as different companies own the rights to produce media about them, respectively, the Marvel multiverse is ultimately explicitly stated company's which I why I decided to imagine an apocalyptic battle between those "super Sentinels" and another superhero team whose main base of operations is the earth. In the past, I have also said that limiting well-connected superheroes to isolated movieverses is a shame and especially so now since the potential for their success is so high considering past and current prosperity of superhero films throughout this decade and the previous one. For example, Spiderman should be in the battle for New York in The Avengers. Hulk and Wolverine should have at least one encounter. Beast getting trained by Captain America would show an appreciation for source material and the films could feature better stories; and so on and so forth.
This is a tangent, so I will stop here and maybe make a thread about it in the future.
Wish movie studios were more chill when it came to do crossing movies licenses like DC and Marvel comics are when it comes to comicbooks. I believe there is one whole superhero whose purpose is to shift and teleport the characters from both universes. But of course, legal reasons and monayzzz will prevent that happening for movies.
@BluRayHiDef: Great review! I loved your structure and all of the pictures and clips.
I'm currently doing a written blog and just published my review......I gave it a 9/10
http://multiplatformer.blogspot.com/2014/05/x-men-days-of-future-past-premium-review.html
Watched it yesterday. Found it quite entertaining, although I always feel a bit disappointed when they start with a semi large cast of mutants and end up only working with 3, as per their usual...dragged a bit halfway through, but ended up changing a few things in the end, so looking forward to the next one.
Also, as a heads-up, there's a 15 minutes scene at the end of the credits but it's so minor that you're probably better off "youtubing" it rather than waiting almost 10 minutes for it =p
While this movie was very enjoyable, am I the only one who found its sense of continuity to be absolutely messed up?
I mean...the "future" in this movie is clearly really the present, so how exactly does this movie have ANYTHING to do with the previous X-Men films (not counting First Class)?
Just saw it today. Quicksilver made it for me.
While this movie was very enjoyable, am I the only one who found its sense of continuity to be absolutely messed up?
I mean...the "future" in this movie is clearly really the present, so how exactly does this movie have ANYTHING to do with the previous X-Men films (not counting First Class)?
I don't understand what you mean.
At the end of "The Wolverine" both Magneeto and Xavior warn of a danger coming. The future in Xmen DOFP takes place some years later, after the events of "The Wolverine". All the stuff that happens in the previous Xmen movies (e.g. Scott and Jean Gray dying) has happened.
The moment Wolverine is sent back, history is being altered, so all the things that happened from that moment forward, technically can be changed.
The movie ends on an optimistic note, with all the bad events that have happened... changed. Because it's a crowd pleaser and basically the final note of the original movies prior of Xmen: First Class.... which is fine. X3 would have been a shitty end.
It also works directly into the theme of the movie. Raven/Mystique giving into her hate for shit Peter Dinklage done would have caused these events. Xavier regains his faith, reasons with her telling her she can be "bigger" than this choosing not to kill him on live tv and just walk away, having saved Richard Nixon.
Saw it a couple days ago, outside of Fassbender, McAvoy, Lawrence and Jackman the movie was pretty bad. Yes it was better than X1, X2 and X3 but that's really not hard to accomplish considering how bad they were. Fassbender as a young magneto is just pure flawless, he's probably my favorite actor in the Marvel films atm.
The story was just....so freaking horrible
MAJOR SPOILERS fyi
Giving Kitty super phasing time travel powers was stupid, I'm sorry but what the hell. Killing off White Queen and Banshee was another stupid moment, ok yea I can deal w/o Banshee but killing him you also kill his daughter off, then White Queen....another w t f moment. The major thing that pissed me off was how they made Raven the end of all mutants and humans which they made her powers somehow hold the secret to having/evolving every power out there, that's not her fraking power you twerps, she can only change her image not powers (that's Rogue). So after all that Raven BS they make the future Sentinels just god mode killers....they never were that freaking powerful, yes they were destructive but not immune to pretty much everything.
The Quicksilver moments were probably the best moments in the movie besides Fassbender, McAvoy, Lawrence and Jackmans moments. I really wished they would've added Master Mold or Bastion in the movie, then drop both of those ridiculous designs the Sentinels had
Saw it a couple days ago, outside of Fassbender, McAvoy, Lawrence and Jackman the movie was pretty bad. Yes it was better than X1, X2 and X3 but that's really not hard to accomplish considering how bad they were. Fassbender as a young magneto is just pure flawless, he's probably my favorite actor in the Marvel films atm.
The story was just....so freaking horrible
MAJOR SPOILERS fyi
Giving Kitty super phasing time travel powers was stupid, I'm sorry but what the hell. Killing off White Queen and Banshee was another stupid moment, ok yea I can deal w/o Banshee but killing him you also kill his daughter off, then White Queen....another w t f moment. The major thing that pissed me off was how they made Raven the end of all mutants and humans which they made her powers somehow hold the secret to having/evolving every power out there, that's not her fraking power you twerps, she can only change her image not powers (that's Rogue). So after all that Raven BS they make the future Sentinels just god mode killers....they never were that freaking powerful, yes they were destructive but not immune to pretty much everything.
The Quicksilver moments were probably the best moments in the movie besides Fassbender, McAvoy, Lawrence and Jackmans moments. I really wished they would've added Master Mold or Bastion in the movie, then drop both of those ridiculous designs the Sentinels had
What was bad about the story? I read your thoughts, but none of these are objectively bad. The main complaints seem to be that it's an adaption, changing things from the comic. That doesn't make a story bad. You might not like it and subjectively, it might be bad to you but from a story standpoint within the context of the movie, that doesn't make it objectively bad by default and doesn't relate directly to the movies story being bad.
About the closing thing approaching bad (as in a plot-hole) is Ravens power. Even at that, it many years in the future with scientists augmenting her DNA. It may not specifically be her DNA either. It's deliberately left vague.
The main problem I have with the story, which isn't a deal breaker by any means
Only Xavour remembers. When Hank was their.
But again, dramatic story purpose and you can easily nippick any time travel story to high heaven, who gives a shit?
I saw it last week on Thursday and I can't wait to see it again.
I'm trying to gather friends that haven't seen it yet...what a fun movie and as a longtime X-Men fan I'm pleased to see this movie stand up to the recent greatness Marvel has put out. X-Men deserve it and thank you Bryan Singer.
I don't understand what you mean.
At the end of "The Wolverine" both Magneeto and Xavior warn of a danger coming. The future in Xmen DOFP takes place some years later, after the events of "The Wolverine". All the stuff that happens in the previous Xmen movies (e.g. Scott and Jean Gray dying) has happened.
The moment Wolverine is sent back, history is being altered, so all the things that happened from that moment forward, technically can be changed.
The movie ends on an optimistic note, with all the bad events that have happened... changed. Because it's a crowd pleaser and basically the final note of the original movies prior of Xmen: First Class.... which is fine. X3 would have been a shitty end.
It also works directly into the theme of the movie. Raven/Mystique giving into her hate for shit Peter Dinklage done would have caused these events. Xavier regains his faith, reasons with her telling her she can be "bigger" than this choosing not to kill him on live tv and just walk away, having saved Richard Nixon.
Except that there's no reason why Xavier is even freaking alive, since he got freaking disintegrated in X3. No explanation given, it's just "hey, Professor X is alive now, don't ask questions." BTW, I don't consider that a spoiler since the trailers and promotional posters already show that Xavier is alive.
Also, that kind of nightmarish Terminator style apocalypse is totally inconsistent with the X-Men trilogy (the following does contain spoilers). According to DOFP, it takes place in the future. But going by the ages of everyone, it's clearly BARELY in the future. For all intents and purposes, it's pretty much the present. Which means that the world went from X3 (an approximation of present day) to a hellish robot-ruled future nightmare within the span of just a few freaking years. Considering that DOFP places the critical event way back in freaking 1973 (more than 40 years ago), why hasn't a single person in the X-Men trilogy mentioned a damn word about the Sentinel Program?
The bottom line is that there's no way that the "future" shown in DOFP could have possibly sprung from the universe established in X1-X3. It's just too radically freaking different. Now, I can go along with time travel wiping out previously established canon. The problem is, DOFP already erases X1-X3 before Wolverine ever travels back in time. The movie essentially STARTS in some kind of alternate universe and then makes efforts to connect itself to both First Class and the original trilogy despite the fact that it can only possibly be consistent with First Class (seeing as how First Class happened before 1973 and the others didn't). I know that time travel is often used as a convenient excuse to rewrite things, but rewriting things has to happen for a reason and time travel IS the reason. You can't just start with a future that's so wildly inconsistent with established canon BEFORE anyone goes back in time to change shit. That's some Alien 3 shit right there. "How did the eggs get onto the Sulaco?" "Just because. Shut up, you're not supposed to think of that." And yes, I realize that these kinds of inconsistencies are a part of superhero comics, but this isn't a superhero comic. This is like a $200 million movie, you'd think they could afford to hire someone to make sure that this shit actually makes sense.
But hey...it was entertaining. I still liked the movie.
Except that there's no reason why Xavier is even freaking alive, since he got freaking disintegrated in X3. No explanation given, it's just "hey, Professor X is alive now, don't ask questions." BTW, I don't consider that a spoiler since the trailers and promotional posters already show that Xavier is alive.
The post credits of Xmen 3 show his mind has been transferred. Granted, it's vague as **** but they did show he wasn't dead well before DOFP.
The bottom line is that there's no way that the "future" shown in DOFP could have possibly sprung from the universe established in X1-X3. It's just too radically freaking different
It is in the not too distant future. It's foreshadowed in the end credits for "The Wolverine".
It seems clear as well (for dramatic purposes) they obviously want the particular it to look as apocalyptic as possible to 1. Show how high the stakes are and 2. make the optimistic ending more impactful
The post credits of Xmen 3 show his mind has been transferred. Granted, it's vague as **** but they did show he wasn't dead well before DOFP.
It is in the not too distant future. It's foreshadowed in the end credits for "The Wolverine".
It seems clear as well (for dramatic purposes) they obviously want the particular it to look as apocalyptic as possible to 1. Show how high the stakes are and 2. make the optimistic ending more impaction
1) Mind transferred, yes. This does not explain how he's in the same BODY after his body had been freaking vaporized by Phoenix.
2) So, by the Wolverine post credits scene, that seems like it would place the critical turning point in the present day, NOT IN FREAKING 1973. If Wolverine had to go all the way back to 1973 to prevent the robot apocalypse, then what the hell are Professor X and Magneto recruiting him to do? Because it seems like that whole thing goes nowhere. Furthermore, how the hell would Professor X even know about the robot apocalypse unless future Professor X was sending his mind into the past? Remember that this would require Professor X's mind to be sent back YEARS, when Kitty Pryde already stated that she could send people back a couple of months but she never tried anything beyond that? And if Professor X can survive his mind being sent back years into the past, then why the hell are they sending Wolverine back? Why are they sending Wolverine all the way back to 1973 when everything in the X-Men trilogy points to the sentinel program being inactive in the late 1990s and 2000s? Why the hell is the assassination of Bolivar Trask in 1973 the sole thing that needs to be changed in order to prevent the robot apocalypse, and how the hell would Professor X (or anyone else from the the future) be able to identify that as the one concrete turning point that needs to change?
In one of the various X-Men movie commentaries and it was said the body transferred was P. Xavier. Xavier's identical twin. That decision and execution is on Ratner and Singer had a heck of a job trying to fix the problems whilst delivering a good movie.
In one of the various X-Men movie commentaries and it was said the body transferred was P. Xavier. Xavier's identical twin. That decision and execution is on Ratner and Singer had a heck of a job trying to fix the problems whilst delivering a good movie.
Shit not in the movie doesn't count. That's like saying that Deckard is a replicant, and he's not a replicant, or maybe he's a replicant. Anyone can say whatever they want in commentaries, but it doesn't count unless it's actually in the movie in some form.
Also, we're supposed to believe that Xavier's identical twin also conveniently (or inconveniently) happened to be crippled in the exact same way? Maybe I could buy that if Xavier's lack of mobility was caused by genetic reasons, but First Class clearly establishes that he's crippled because he got shot in the spine.
1) Mind transferred, yes. This does not explain how he's in the same BODY after his body had been freaking vaporized by Phoenix.
twin brother is a vegetable
Yes, it's goofy, but it's in the comics and they did indicate it in the movie.
2) So, by the Wolverine post credits scene, that seems like it would place the critical turning point in the present day, NOT IN FREAKING 1973. If Wolverine had to go all the way back to 1973 to prevent the robot apocalypse, then what the hell are Professor X and Magneto recruiting him to do? Because it seems like that whole thing goes nowhere.
The senitles in the future are enhanced ones from Mystique. They can adopt and evolve and basically own the mutants.
In the 1970's Brolivar Trask is trying push, and fail to get the sentitles accepted by congress. Mystiques assassination attempt is the event that allows him to create them by giving him justification.
They do not manage to prevent the attack and this allows him to push it forward as well as get a blood sample thanks to Magneeto being a dumbass.
History is changed when, rather than killing Brovilar Trask, she saves the president and walks away. A brief scene in the papers show Brovilar Trask is arrested. History is changed, everyone saved. Magical happy land.
It's also pretty much an excuse to keep Hugh Jackman in it.
The senitles in the future are enhanced ones from Mystique. They can adopt and evolve and basically own the mutants.
In the 1970's Brolivar Trask is trying push, and fail to get the sentitles accepted by congress. Mystiques assassination attempt is the event that allows him to create them by giving him justification.
They do not manage to prevent the attack and this allows him to push it forward as well as get a blood sample thanks to Magneeto being a dumbass.
History is changed when, rather than killing Brovilar Trask, she saves the president and walks away. A brief scene in the papers show Brovilar Trask is arrested. History is changed, everyone saved. Magical happy land.
Let's talk about Mystique...In DOFP, it's stated that she assassinated Trask, and was then captured, tortured, and dissected. I don't remember it outright being said that she was killed, but let's assume she did survive the procedure and then escaped. Don't you think it a little bit odd that she didn't say a goddam thing about it in X1, X2, or X3?
EDIT:And "twin brother was a vegetable doesn't count. I don't care if it was in the comics, the movies are separate from the comics and IT WASN'T IN THE MOVIE.
I want to watch this movie. But due to workload in office, I can't go on weekdays. Hope will watch it on weekend.
In one of the various X-Men movie commentaries and it was said the body transferred was P. Xavier. Xavier's identical twin. That decision and execution is on Ratner and Singer had a heck of a job trying to fix the problems whilst delivering a good movie.
Shit not in the movie doesn't count. That's like saying that Deckard is a replicant, and he's not a replicant, or maybe he's a replicant. Anyone can say whatever they want in commentaries, but it doesn't count unless it's actually in the movie in some form.
Also, we're supposed to believe that Xavier's identical twin also conveniently (or inconveniently) happened to be crippled in the exact same way? Maybe I could buy that if Xavier's lack of mobility was caused by genetic reasons, but First Class clearly establishes that he's crippled because he got shot in the spine.
Correct, but being crippled in the new body could be another event we haven't seen since we are missing decades. He might have been able to walk and then something else happened later, by coincidence removing his mobility. It's also possible that the Prof has a psychological disorder that simply prevents his walking in that new body, but the body is physically able. This new body possesses functional legs, though the pain Xavier experienced after living so long as a paraplegic keeps him paralyzed (That happened in the comics as he was given a new body by cloning a new body and I believe Alien Shiar Technology). I'm not defending or suggesting there aren't mistakes (different directors and all), just that I enjoy a good commentary and the X-Men universe in general so I figured you wanted an answer on who's body that was. The Prof had a twin in the comics, but the twin was a female in that 616 Marvel main universe.
It's a world of mutants, maybe there was a healer that took care of his spinal injury he got in 1st class, or maybe Beast perfected the formula and he was injured later. It's really open to be tackled if a writer felt that was needed for a movie's plot.
I wonder if I pause the Blu-Ray if I'll be able to see "P.Xavier" somewhere in the scene, so maybe it is actually in a frame of the movie. I know Avi Arad or someone said something and put the beard on the man to make it less obvious what they were doing. They were essentially setting an X-Men 4 up for the next guy. They delivered a way for Prof X to come back and gave a sneak peak at Magneto moving a chess piece despite the cure. We just never got that movie and 1st Class came along instead.
In any event, we are in a new timeline (sigma) since timeline prime (X1-X3, part of X-Men Origins) has been changed to prevent the horrible Sentinel future when Mystique showed mercy to the President and the world, stopping one of her own (Magneto) on live TV.
Ratner threw everything and the kitchen sink at the audience. With regards to Ratner's X-Men 3, it's clear Singer wanted to correct the problems with the franchise after his departure. He did what he could to rectify some of the poor decisions that were made by other creators for the film franchise in his absence.
The senitles in the future are enhanced ones from Mystique. They can adopt and evolve and basically own the mutants.
In the 1970's Brolivar Trask is trying push, and fail to get the sentitles accepted by congress. Mystiques assassination attempt is the event that allows him to create them by giving him justification.
They do not manage to prevent the attack and this allows him to push it forward as well as get a blood sample thanks to Magneeto being a dumbass.
History is changed when, rather than killing Brovilar Trask, she saves the president and walks away. A brief scene in the papers show Brovilar Trask is arrested. History is changed, everyone saved. Magical happy land.
Let's talk about Mystique...In DOFP, it's stated that she assassinated Trask, and was then captured, tortured, and dissected. I don't remember it outright being said that she was killed, but let's assume she did survive the procedure and then escaped. Don't you think it a little bit odd that she didn't say a goddam thing about it in X1, X2, or X3?
She never says a god dam thing in Xmen 1,2 or 3, in general. Rebecca Romijn older character is far more pragmatic. About the only time she does bring up her past is when she mentions her parents tried to kill her. It isn't until Xmen: First Class she really gets any focus.
From a logical standpoint, Stinger attempts to remedy the very different character in First Class by making it part of the plot line.
He's gave up on her. Shes been influenced by Magneeto. She attempts to get Havok out of Veitnam but later we see Trask has killed him.
Correct, but being crippled in the new body could be another event we haven't seen since we are missing decades. He might have been able to walk and then something else happened later, by coincidence removing his mobility. It's also possible that the Prof has a psychological disorder that simply prevents his walking in that new body, but the body is physically able. This new body possesses functional legs, though the pain Xavier experienced after living so long as a paraplegic keeps him paralyzed (That happened in the comics as he was given a new body by cloning a new body and I believe Alien Shiar Technology). I'm not defending or suggesting there aren't mistakes (different directors and all), just that I enjoy a good commentary and the X-Men universe in general so I figured you wanted an answer on who's body that was. The Prof had a twin in the comics, but the twin was a female in that 616 Marvel main universe.
It's a world of mutants, maybe there was a healer that took care of his spinal injury he got in 1st class, or maybe Beast perfected the formula and he was injured later. It's really open to be tackled if a writer felt that was needed for a movie's plot.
I wonder if I pause the Blu-Ray if I'll be able to see "P.Xavier" somewhere in the scene, so maybe it is actually in a frame of the movie. I know Avi Arad or someone said something and put the beard on the man to make it less obvious what they were doing. They were essentially setting an X-Men 4 up for the next guy. They delivered a way for Prof X to come back and gave a sneak peak at Magneto moving a chess piece despite the cure. We just never got that movie and 1st Class came along instead.
In any event, we are in a new timeline (sigma) since timeline prime (X1-X3, part of X-Men Origins) has been changed to prevent the horrible Sentinel future when Mystique showed mercy to the President and the world, stopping one of her own (Magneto) on live TV.
Ratner threw everything and the kitchen sink at the audience. With regards to Ratner's X-Men 3, it's clear Singer wanted to correct the problems with the franchise after his departure. He did what he could to rectify some of the poor decisions that were made by other creators for the film franchise in his absence.
See, when you have to throw that many "maybes" out just in order for things to make sense, things don't make sense.
Another thing...X3 had Trask in it, played by Bill Duke. It has been confirmed in interviews that this is indeed the X-Men trilogy's version of Bolivar Trask. So...How is Trask alive in X3 when DOFP states that he was assassinated in 1973?
Again, I'm not saying that I don't like these movies, but continuity is just as fucked up as it ever was.
Correct, but being crippled in the new body could be another event we haven't seen since we are missing decades. He might have been able to walk and then something else happened later, by coincidence removing his mobility. It's also possible that the Prof has a psychological disorder that simply prevents his walking in that new body, but the body is physically able. This new body possesses functional legs, though the pain Xavier experienced after living so long as a paraplegic keeps him paralyzed (That happened in the comics as he was given a new body by cloning a new body and I believe Alien Shiar Technology). I'm not defending or suggesting there aren't mistakes (different directors and all), just that I enjoy a good commentary and the X-Men universe in general so I figured you wanted an answer on who's body that was. The Prof had a twin in the comics, but the twin was a female in that 616 Marvel main universe.
It's a world of mutants, maybe there was a healer that took care of his spinal injury he got in 1st class, or maybe Beast perfected the formula and he was injured later. It's really open to be tackled if a writer felt that was needed for a movie's plot.
I wonder if I pause the Blu-Ray if I'll be able to see "P.Xavier" somewhere in the scene, so maybe it is actually in a frame of the movie. I know Avi Arad or someone said something and put the beard on the man to make it less obvious what they were doing. They were essentially setting an X-Men 4 up for the next guy. They delivered a way for Prof X to come back and gave a sneak peak at Magneto moving a chess piece despite the cure. We just never got that movie and 1st Class came along instead.
In any event, we are in a new timeline (sigma) since timeline prime (X1-X3, part of X-Men Origins) has been changed to prevent the horrible Sentinel future when Mystique showed mercy to the President and the world, stopping one of her own (Magneto) on live TV.
Ratner threw everything and the kitchen sink at the audience. With regards to Ratner's X-Men 3, it's clear Singer wanted to correct the problems with the franchise after his departure. He did what he could to rectify some of the poor decisions that were made by other creators for the film franchise in his absence.
See, when you have to throw that many "maybes" out just in order for things to make sense, things don't make sense.
Another thing...X3 had Trask in it, played by Bill Duke. It has been confirmed in interviews that this is indeed the X-Men trilogy's version of Bolivar Trask. So...How is Trask alive in X3 when DOFP states that he was assassinated in 1973?
Again, I'm not saying that I don't like these movies, but continuity is just as fucked up as it ever was.
This is what happens when you have a new director come into a series and ruin the storyline beyond repair.
Singer did his best to try and wipe away those mistakes...
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