Who's Going to See X-Men: Days of Future Past? | UPDATE

I call BS on that. See, he didn't just wipe away X3, he wiped away everything that happened after 1973 (story wise). This includes X1 and X2.

Don't put all this on Brett Ratner. Sure, X3 sort of sucked, but there's no reason for that to have killed the entire series. Bryan Singer could have easily picked up the pieces and made sense of the unwanted plot points, and picked up from there. Case in point, Professor X. Sure, he had no hand in killing Prof X off, but we see commenters trying to explain his return with shit about him transferring his mind into a twin brother. The problem isn't that shit happens, the problem is that weird shit happens with no explanation, and the freaking director doesn't see fit to include a single line of explanation. First Class was made after X3, and Bryan Singer has a writing credit for the story, so why isn't there a single line of dialogue in First Class establishing that Xavier does have a twin brother? That's all that would be needed to fix this shit, and the director can't manage to think that far ahead.

Hey, it's not Brett Ratner's fault that the new X-Men movie was Days of Future Past. There were endless storylines they could have gone with. It was Bryan Singer directing a movie in which Bolivar Trask is dead in the timeline of the original trilogy, and then expecting audiences to ignore those inconstistencies with X3. Brett Ratner's movie might have been crap, but he had nothing to do with the storyline of the most recent movie.

Furthermore, there's an easy fix that could have negated X3 while allowing X1 and X2 to remain intact. Simply set the "future" farther into the future so that the characters are actually noticeably older, then write the story so that the Sentinel Program starts up at the end of X2 (rather than in 1973). Have Wolverine travel back in time to just after X2, and there you go. X3 has been erased while the other two movies remain intact.

Yes, and I very much enjoyed it. Superior to the Avengers in so many ways.

I've always had a place in my heart for X Men.

@thegerg: So because he loves X men and sci-fi/fantasy, like me, he has trouble distinguishing films from reality? Are you bloody serious?

And you do realise this could be before the film starts, not during?

I'm not throwing maybes (rather offering multiple scenarios), just simply answering possibilities since there is no specific answer and there doesn't need to be about that particular Prof X spine issue since there is huge time gaps that an additional movie could fill in (if it were pertinent). With DOFP we don't even have to worry about it either, since it sounds like it will start in the 1980s. Remember, this is an entirely new timeline (sigma) as timeline prime has been washed away to prevent a terrible future. So, the events past 1973 no longer happened as we saw it, but we needed timeline prime to get DOFP.

Regarding Ratner's X3: Bill Duke played "Trask" (not Bolivar) and as you said what's in the movie counts, not off-screen or commentary. I have them on DVD and Blu-Ray, Duke's credited as simply "Trask". So we can't start assuming Duke was Bolivar, especially trying to cite years later interviews a different director answering speculative questions. You can't go back and forth and decide now offscreen answers count. It's true Duke was a Trask but that's all we know for sure. Because we never knew back in 2006 for sure, I remember talking about which Trask Duke was way back then with fellow X-fans. All we know for sure is that Bill Duke portrays a man named Trask in X-Men 3: The Last Stand. He was intended most likely to be Bolivar, but there are many Trask's in the Trask family line. Here, Bill Duke's "Trask" is simply the head of Department of Homeland Security and not the same man. This Trask has no indicated connection to the Sentinels or creating Sentinels. In addition, this X3 Trask seems to have no real hatred of mutants and is merely doing his job as the head of Homeland (in his brief scene), as opposed to his comic book incarnation/DOFP incarnation, who takes great pleasure in making deadlier weapons to use against mutants and CREATES the Sentinels. Bolivar has a son Larry Trask, maybe Bill Duke was Larry, Bolivar's adopted son/nephew. Bill Duke could have been Donald Trask III or even Simon Trask. Bill Duke could have been an unrelated Trask. Truth be told, since it was never specified in X3 which "Trask" Bill Duke was directly, I wouldn't even have the writers bother with any of that. Bill Duke was a Ratner casting choice so I'm okay with Singer moving on.

It is true that in interviews, Bryan Singer acknowledged that (different director) Ratner's Bill Duke-Trask was most likely initially intended to be the film series' version of Bolivar Trask, but since we never got a first name for which Trask Bill Duke actually was playing, it doesn't even have to be related and/or could be adopted into the Trask family. In the movie, Bill Duke is Trask and since it's 30 years later, it's obviously not Bolivar.

Regarding the continuity, again, X3 was Ratner's doing and Bryan's (X1/X2/XDOFP) merely trying to mop up and clean house after seeing what these directors did to his playhouse while he was away.

X-Men kicked off Marvel SuperHero movies in a big way so I'm pretty pleased how DOFP turned out and while there are a few nitpicky things I wish I could iron out, now that we are in a new timeline (sigma), I hope the Xmen movie creatives will be more careful with character choices and stories in the future.

Yep. X3 is generally considered the bastard child. Had a few good elements though imo in all the bad. Kelsey Grammer as beast was about as perfect a casting as you can get. Kitty pride seemed like a decent character and Magneeto moving the golden gate bridge was pretty cool.

Don't see the problem. Xmen for all intents and purposes is finished. That's the conclusion, a high note.

Apocalypse will and (most likely) any spinoff's with Wolverine will be within First Class's timeline.

Slightly disappointed to see Yukio basically forgotten about. "The Wolverine" had it's problems, mainly a shitty CGI magical castle in which he fights Iron-Man but Rila Fukushima was easily one of the best things in it.

Can you verify this? Because I'd very much like to know where the next few films are going, and I doubt they're just chucking away all the characters like that. I'd expect they'd build up on where they've gone now.

Seen it twice loved it, the story was pretty complex for a superhero movie and made sense(kind of there some plot holes, but I can forgive and overlook a lot)

I like it because I was still thinking about the film and discussing it days later

@thegerg: Then, pray tell, what did you say?

Not the Wolverine spinoff's, originally Hugh Jackman said he was retiring but has since retracted that statement.They have said Apocalypse will not feature the "original" cast. It will however feature younger versions of characters like Jean Gray and take place in the 80's.

X-men: first class was a masterpiece

days of future past isn't, it's a good movie though but nowhere near the caliber of first class

problem with that is, no first class actors. they have stated that this was a soft reboot.

this was a soft reboot. they wouldnt bring back characters from the dead only to not have them appear in apocalyspe. xmen first class 2 is also in the making and is suppose to come out before apocalyspe did you not know that?

First Class was the reboot. This is for all intents and purposes, first class 2 and a wrap up for the original franchise.

Characters (as in the original cast) will most likely have minor (as in seconds) cameo's. Characters such as Cyclops, Jean and Storm are confirmed to be younger incarnation i.e. different actors.

Xmen Apocalypses is schedules for 2016 with the first class cast members. This is fiction my friend.

Disagree. Thought First Class was inferior in many respects. The first 2/3 of Wolverine are awesome. Dono what happened in the final part, went abit mental.

Ah. I see. Thanks for that.