Why Are Jews Hated So Much Throughout History?

Plenty of Jews follow tenents in which they attempt to hoard power and assets amongst themselves. Are you honestly going to deny this? As for conversions, this depends entirely on *your* ideological beliefs and isn't shared by all the Jews. * Just look at the conversion bill that is highly debated in Israel right now. One that is so controversial that the heads of your state claim it will can split the nation to the extent that groups will even stop marrying amongst each other. Why is this controversial, because based on Orthodox Rabbinical Law, many of the "Jewish Converts", from Russia for example, would not be categorized as Jews because of their highly mixed non-Jewish lineage. * You just jailed a man for two years for rape. When all he did was say he had a Jewish name. LOL... WTF? * The MASSIVE protests in Israel by Orthodox Ashkenazi Jews who don't want their kids going to school with Sephardic Jews. Why? Because they aren't "Jewish enough" Bro, you're trying to propagate things to someone who actually follows ME news to know I'm being baited into half-truths. Moving right along...SquatsAreAwesom

To be fair Israeli's persecute russians jews not because of their lack of jewish lineage, more so because they are russians. Russians persecute jews and they persecute russians. I remember watching an entire news special on that where a boy is always in trouble because in russia he was persecuted for being a jew and when they moved to Israel he was persecuted for being a russian. Lose/Lose situation with those two places.

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Plenty of Jews follow tenents in which they attempt to hoard power and assets amongst themselves. Are you honestly going to deny this? As for conversions, this depends entirely on *your* ideological beliefs and isn't shared by all the Jews. * Just look at the conversion bill that is highly debated in Israel right now. One that is so controversial that the heads of your state claim it will can split the nation to the extent that groups will even stop marrying amongst each other. Why is this controversial, because based on Orthodox Rabbinical Law, many of the "Jewish Converts", from Russia for example, would not be categorized as Jews because of their highly mixed non-Jewish lineage. * You just jailed a man for two years for rape. When all he did was say he had a Jewish name. LOL... WTF? * The MASSIVE protests in Israel by Orthodox Ashkenazi Jews who don't want their kids going to school with Sephardic Jews. Why? Because they aren't "Jewish enough" Bro, you're trying to propagate things to someone who actually follows ME news to know I'm being baited into half-truths. Moving right along...Espada12

To be fair Israeli's persecute russians jews not because of their lack of jewish lineage, more so because they are russians. Russians persecute jews and they persecute russians. I remember watching an entire news special on that where a boy is always in trouble because in russia he was persecuted for being a jew and when they moved to Israel he was persecuted for being a russian. Lose/Lose situation with those two places.

Consider that there were actually Russian Jews in Israel who started going skin-head / Neo-Nazis because their persecution was so bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezXm9jkukBo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myttW1lfEJs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpdKRqUdbpA

Yes, but because they are Russian they know immediately they aren't "full blooded Jews" which gives them leeway to even do so.

Consider that there were actually Russian Jews in Israel who started going skin-head / Neo-Nazis because their persecution was so bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezXm9jkukBo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpdKRqUdbpA

SquatsAreAwesom

lol that's the exact special I was talking about haha

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[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"]

Plenty of Jews follow tenents in which they attempt to hoard power and assets amongst themselves. Are you honestly going to deny this? As for conversions, this depends entirely on *your* ideological beliefs and isn't shared by all the Jews. * Just look at the conversion bill that is highly debated in Israel right now. One that is so controversial that the heads of your state claim it will can split the nation to the extent that groups will even stop marrying amongst each other. Why is this controversial, because based on Orthodox Rabbinical Law, many of the "Jewish Converts", from Russia for example, would not be categorized as Jews because of their highly mixed non-Jewish lineage. * You just jailed a man for two years for rape. When all he did was say he had a Jewish name. LOL... WTF? * The MASSIVE protests in Israel by Orthodox Ashkenazi Jews who don't want their kids going to school with Sephardic Jews. Why? Because they aren't "Jewish enough" Bro, you're trying to propagate things to someone who actually follows ME news to know I'm being baited into half-truths. Moving right along...SquatsAreAwesom

To be fair Israeli's persecute russians jews not because of their lack of jewish lineage, more so because they are russians. Russians persecute jews and they persecute russians. I remember watching an entire news special on that where a boy is always in trouble because in russia he was persecuted for being a jew and when they moved to Israel he was persecuted for being a russian. Lose/Lose situation with those two places.

Consider that there were actually Russian Jews in Israel who started going skin-head / Neo-Nazis because their persecution was so bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezXm9jkukBo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myttW1lfEJs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpdKRqUdbpA

People are jelous of their sexy foriegn accent?

and once again,You have no Idea what you are talking about.But i'll explain briefly.

Plenty of Jews follow tenents in which they attempt to hoard power and assets amongst themselves. Are you honestly going to deny this?

Yes.

As for conversions, this depends entirely on your ideological beliefs and isn't shared by all the Jews. Not every practicing Jew and Rabbi believes in the same ideologies you do.

American Jews != Zionist Jews != Azkanazi Jews != Sephardic Jews != Orthodox Jews != Ethnic Jews

There are so many flavors of Judism that pretending that they all follow your perspective is laughable.

Again-You don't know what you are talking about.

1)there is no such thing as zionist judaism. Zionism has nothing to do with religion-it's a national movement.I'm a zionist and i'm an atheist.

2)There is no such thing as an ethnic jew.

3)Judaism is thus divided.

A) Orthodox-The main large ****cal judaism-the sole sect of Judaism until the 19th century.Inside the Orthodox belief there are differences in some traditions that grew out of geograpgical location-Ashkenazi,Mizrahi and spharadi. they are almost completely identicalidentical with minor changes in prayer sequences,for example.

B)Reform,conservative etc. etc.-only prominent in The US,came to be in the 19th century as an attmept to "modernize" Judaism.It's none-existent Outside the US-Those sects are unrecognized by the Orthodox majority...[see below]

* Just look at the conversion bill that is highly debated in Israel right now. One that is so controversial that the heads of your state claim it will can split the nation to the extent that groups will stop marrying amongst each other. Why is this controversial? because based on Orthodox Rabbinical Law, many of the "Jewish Converts" that exist today aren't even technically Jewish. Many of the Russian migrants for example would not be categorized as Jews because of their highly mixed non-Jewish lineage.

The proposed law is by the Haredy Orthodox parties in the knesset(who are also anti-zionists Btw)-It's about decalring the Orthodox school the only one with power in Israel in regards to recognized conversion. It's not about the russian jews at all it's about alienating the jews of america (for the reasons above).

The only way it affects any one inside Israel is making It harder to convert.I don't even know what you're on about....

* You just jailed a man for two years for rape. When all he did was say he had a Jewish name, but it turns out hes Arab. LOL... WTF?

Me? That wasn't about religion,either. It was about what is considered rape. People were arrested before with rape by deception-this went on the news because of the manner of the deception which brought up the jewish-arab issue...

This is another topic however.

* The MASSIVE protests in Israel by Orthodox Ashkenazi Jews who don't want their kids going to school with Sephardic Jews. Why? Because the Arab-looking / Middle Easter / Sephardic Jews aren't "Jewish enough".

Haredy jews. They are racists-deal with it. They are anti-zionists,free loading bunch that lives off the state of Israel because of voting power.
Said vote was brought by represantation of this public.I'm not generalizing the entire public-but most of them are a secluded bunch that refuse to be educated in anything other than talmud and gmara-and Adhere to their rabbis for political opinion. Ther are not to be taken seriously(most of them..)

Bro, you're trying to propagate absolutele half-truth and fundementally incorrect things to someone who actually follows ME events.

Me? anything and everything in this post is a giant half-truth....Post ONE thing that Isaid which was wrong-ONE.

SquatsAreAwesom

Im not sure Jews really keep any assets in closed groups, but during the middle ages (and even in the 19th and early 20th C in some places), the Jews were actually some of the poorer members of society, due to excessive taxation (there were taxes against the Jews), so it would be natural for people to stick with each other, maybe thats what youre thinking about. what I still dont understand is if the Jews are really more successful in commerce , the media and politics, what is the issue, are you saying Jews are too smart? I mean what kind of an accusation is that? and im really not sure every Jew is a huge fan of Israel , but thats besides the point.Darkman2007

As for your question, I don't believe that being successful in commerce, media and politics is a bad thing. However I do believe that the level of collectivism I am referring to is seen by many as being nothing short of racist. Especially when it is used in turn to actively promote your own closed group, while systematically preventing others to enter into the arena.

To be clear, this isn't something that is unique to the Jewish race. However throughout history they have been recognized, rightfully or not, to have followed such practices. Though I think man may argue that this is only historically significant up to the late 1800s. While others will point at the history in Cordoba, Spain. In short, it depends who you talk to really.

As an alternative example, consider how some of the Republicans, espcially the most hawkish tend to be skeptical against pretty much every black politician and spokesperson today. We can frame a whole lot of BS reasons around why this is happening, however the catalyst is that many Republicans feel threatened that these people are looking to promote "their group" in a systematic fashion. The thing is, they aren't doing any different then what the Jews have done in this country 100x more successfully, however, without getting flack for it!

and once again,You have no Idea what you are talking about.But i'll explain briefly.

grape_of_wrath

To be fair Israeli's persecute russians jews not because of their lack of jewish lineage, more so because they are russians. Russians persecute jews and they persecute russians. I remember watching an entire news special on that where a boy is always in trouble because in russia he was persecuted for being a jew and when they moved to Israel he was persecuted for being a russian. Lose/Lose situation with those two places.

Espada12

and once again,You have no Idea what you are talking about.But i'll explain briefly.


[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"]

Plenty of Jews follow tenents in which they attempt to hoard power and assets amongst themselves. Are you honestly going to deny this?

Yes.

As for conversions, this depends entirely on your ideological beliefs and isn't shared by all the Jews. Not every practicing Jew and Rabbi believes in the same ideologies you do.

American Jews != Zionist Jews != Azkanazi Jews != Sephardic Jews != Orthodox Jews != Ethnic Jews

There are so many flavors of Judism that pretending that they all follow your perspective is laughable.

Again-You don't know what you are talking about.

1)there is no such thing as zionist judaism. Zionism has nothing to do with religion-it's a national movement.I'm a zionist and i'm an atheist.

2)There is no such thing as an ethnic jew.

3)Judaism is thus divided.

A) Orthodox-The main large ****cal judaism-the sole sect of Judaism until the 19th century.Inside the Orthodox belief there are differences in some traditions that grew out of geograpgical location-Ashkenazi,Mizrahi and spharadi. they are almost completely identicalidentical with minor changes in prayer sequences,for example.

B)Reform,conservative etc. etc.-only prominent in The US,came to be in the 19th century as an attmept to "modernize" Judaism.It's none-existent Outside the US-Those sects are unrecognized by the Orthodox majority...[see below]

* Just look at the conversion bill that is highly debated in Israel right now. One that is so controversial that the heads of your state claim it will can split the nation to the extent that groups will stop marrying amongst each other. Why is this controversial? because based on Orthodox Rabbinical Law, many of the "Jewish Converts" that exist today aren't even technically Jewish. Many of the Russian migrants for example would not be categorized as Jews because of their highly mixed non-Jewish lineage.

The proposed law is by the Haredy Orthodox parties in the knesset(who are also anti-zionists Btw)-It's about decalring the Orthodox school the only one with power in Israel in regards to recognized conversion. It's not about the russian jews at all it's about alienating the jews of america (for the reasons above).

The only way it affects any one inside Israel is making It harder to convert.I don't even know what you're on about....

* You just jailed a man for two years for rape. When all he did was say he had a Jewish name, but it turns out hes Arab. LOL... WTF?

Me? That wasn't about religion,either. It was about what is considered rape. People were arrested before with rape by deception-this went on the news because of the manner of the deception which brought up the jewish-arab issue...

This is another topic however.

* The MASSIVE protests in Israel by Orthodox Ashkenazi Jews who don't want their kids going to school with Sephardic Jews. Why? Because the Arab-looking / Middle Easter / Sephardic Jews aren't "Jewish enough".

Haredy jews. They are racists-deal with it. They are anti-zionists,free loading bunch that lives off the state of Israel because of voting power.
Said vote was brought by represantation of this public.I'm not generalizing the entire public-but most of them are a secluded bunch that refuse to be educated in anything other than talmud and gmara-and Adhere to their rabbis for political opinion. Ther are not to be taken seriously(most of them..)

Bro, you're trying to propagate absolutele half-truth and fundementally incorrect things to someone who actually follows ME events.

Me? anything and everything in this post is a giant half-truth....Post ONE thing that Isaid which was wrong-ONE.

grape_of_wrath

That isn't exactly true.. Zionism though started as a labor movment does have some religious undertone for some of the followers.. Now this isn't suggesting the entire movement is that.. Just saying.

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]

and once again,You have no Idea what you are talking about.But i'll explain briefly.

SquatsAreAwesom

and once again,You have no Idea what you are talking about.But i'll explain briefly.

2 main reasons, neither of which are fair 1. They are disproportionately wealthy compared to other religious groups (mainly because they tend to be harder workers and better educated) 2. They killed Jesus (also unfair, as his death is the entire basis of Christianity)UT_Wrestler

Basically this. For instance, during the Industrial Revolution, even though they were essentially already starving and working at least 12 hours a day, Jewish families would make extra efforts to send their children to school, while most other poor social groups didn't bother. What I'm getting at is that education is a huge part of Jewish culture, and typically, you're eventually going to be wealthier if you're better schooled.

Something I've learned from working with laborers is that no one likes to feel inferior. If someone knows how to use proper grammar, didn't smoke weed all through high school, and eventually got a well-paying job in an office, they are called "elitist" and queer by people that don't make as much (fittingly enough, the same people that did do drugs through school).

(I'm not judging people from the blue-collar work force, and the majority do not behave this way, but I've observed a lot of this type of behavior where I work).

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]

and once again,You have no Idea what you are talking about.But i'll explain briefly.


[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"]

Plenty of Jews follow tenents in which they attempt to hoard power and assets amongst themselves. Are you honestly going to deny this?

Yes.

As for conversions, this depends entirely on your ideological beliefs and isn't shared by all the Jews. Not every practicing Jew and Rabbi believes in the same ideologies you do.

American Jews != Zionist Jews != Azkanazi Jews != Sephardic Jews != Orthodox Jews != Ethnic Jews

There are so many flavors of Judism that pretending that they all follow your perspective is laughable.

Again-You don't know what you are talking about.

1)there is no such thing as zionist judaism. Zionism has nothing to do with religion-it's a national movement.I'm a zionist and i'm an atheist.

2)There is no such thing as an ethnic jew.

3)Judaism is thus divided.

A) Orthodox-The main large ****cal judaism-the sole sect of Judaism until the 19th century.Inside the Orthodox belief there are differences in some traditions that grew out of geograpgical location-Ashkenazi,Mizrahi and spharadi. they are almost completely identicalidentical with minor changes in prayer sequences,for example.

B)Reform,conservative etc. etc.-only prominent in The US,came to be in the 19th century as an attmept to "modernize" Judaism.It's none-existent Outside the US-Those sects are unrecognized by the Orthodox majority...[see below]

* Just look at the conversion bill that is highly debated in Israel right now. One that is so controversial that the heads of your state claim it will can split the nation to the extent that groups will stop marrying amongst each other. Why is this controversial? because based on Orthodox Rabbinical Law, many of the "Jewish Converts" that exist today aren't even technically Jewish. Many of the Russian migrants for example would not be categorized as Jews because of their highly mixed non-Jewish lineage.

The proposed law is by the Haredy Orthodox parties in the knesset(who are also anti-zionists Btw)-It's about decalring the Orthodox school the only one with power in Israel in regards to recognized conversion. It's not about the russian jews at all it's about alienating the jews of america (for the reasons above).

The only way it affects any one inside Israel is making It harder to convert.I don't even know what you're on about....

* You just jailed a man for two years for rape. When all he did was say he had a Jewish name, but it turns out hes Arab. LOL... WTF?

Me? That wasn't about religion,either. It was about what is considered rape. People were arrested before with rape by deception-this went on the news because of the manner of the deception which brought up the jewish-arab issue...

This is another topic however.

* The MASSIVE protests in Israel by Orthodox Ashkenazi Jews who don't want their kids going to school with Sephardic Jews. Why? Because the Arab-looking / Middle Easter / Sephardic Jews aren't "Jewish enough".

Haredy jews. They are racists-deal with it. They are anti-zionists,free loading bunch that lives off the state of Israel because of voting power.
Said vote was brought by represantation of this public.I'm not generalizing the entire public-but most of them are a secluded bunch that refuse to be educated in anything other than talmud and gmara-and Adhere to their rabbis for political opinion. Ther are not to be taken seriously(most of them..)

Bro, you're trying to propagate absolutele half-truth and fundementally incorrect things to someone who actually follows ME events.

Me? anything and everything in this post is a giant half-truth....Post ONE thing that Isaid which was wrong-ONE.

sSubZerOo

That isn't exactly true.. Zionism though started as a labor movment does have some religious undertone for some of the followers.. Now this isn't suggesting the entire movement is that.. Just saying.

what you might be thinking about , are the national religious movements, they are not the majority, Zionism was founded by people who had little interest in religion and were more interested in ethnicity and culture (as was the case with many in the 19th C, religion played second fiddle to ethnicity and nationality , as well as political affiliation) as you said.

That isn't exactly true.. Zionism though started as a labor movment does have some religious undertone for some of the followers.. Now this isn't suggesting the entire movement is that.. Just saying.sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]2 main reasons, neither of which are fair 1. They are disproportionately wealthy compared to other religious groups (mainly because they tend to be harder workers and better educated) 2. They killed Jesus (also unfair, as his death is the entire basis of Christianity)IzzieWaru

Basically this. For instance, during the Industrial Revolution, even though they were essentially already starving and working at least 12 hours a day, Jewish families would make extra efforts to send their children to school, while most other poor social groups didn't bother. What I'm getting at is that education is a huge part of Jewish culture, and typically, you're eventually going to be wealthier if you're better schooled.

Something I've learned from working with laborers is that no one likes to feel inferior. If someone knows how to use proper grammar, didn't smoke weed all through high school, and eventually got a well-paying job in an office, they are called "elitist" and queer by people that don't make as much (fittingly enough, the same people that did do drugs through school).

(I'm not judging people from the blue-collar work force, and the majority do not behave this way, but I've observed a lot of this type of behavior where I work).

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]That isn't exactly true.. Zionism though started as a labor movment does have some religious undertone for some of the followers.. Now this isn't suggesting the entire movement is that.. Just saying.grape_of_wrath

Very few but very powerful seeing as the settlers on the West Bank are mainly that, and even though they are a a small % of the population of Israel they hold a ton of political clout.

I mean, if the actions of the minority do go against the majority , then yes there is an issue, but I doubt Jews are against what is beneficial to the country they live in.

Very few but very powerful seeing as the settlers on the West Bank are mainly that, and even though they are a a small % of the population of Israel they hold a ton of political clout.sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

Try studying some history then form an opinion. Other than that I don't think anyone hates Jews. The German people bought Adolf's Bull**** because they were desperate and willing to believe anything would fix the collapse. Other than that I never really bothered looking into any other history regarding Jew hate, it never seemed important.

-Sun_Tzu-

on south park cartman said to kyle that it was the jews who killed jesus. maybe that is why

on south park cartman said to kyle that it was the jews who killed jesus. maybe that is why

GrabTheYayo

on south park cartman said to kyle that it was the jews who killed jesus. maybe that is why

GrabTheYayo

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]

on south park cartman said to kyle that it was the jews who killed jesus. maybe that is why

xaos

It's a conspiracy from the pork industryxaos

That explains the fact why the people I hang out with never get enough of jokes regarding to Jews. :lol:

Jews have just been the scapegoats down through the ages. Poeple always need someone to blame. The Jews got unlucky.

According to my beliefs which you certainly can disagree with. Jews were (and still) responsible for a lot of conspiracies throughout history. Also, they were once the chosen people of God, but they betrayed this trust over and over. Also, they are known for monopoly and taking advantage of others. THIS IS ENTIRELY BASED ON MY BELIEFS, which I'm free to say and you are not obligated to listen. But they were and still Jews who do not fall into this category, and they themselves say the same about certain groups of Jews.GazaAli

i'd say perhaps because their stupid attitude that they are the 'chosen race' of the earth whilst everyone else beneath them. they cry for the world's attention & sympathy only to commit atrocities that would give us more than enough reason to toss them back or to have had left them in the gas chambers

_R34LiTY_

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To be fair Israeli's persecute russians jews not because of their lack of jewish lineage, more so because they are russians. Russians persecute jews and they persecute russians. I remember watching an entire news special on that where a boy is always in trouble because in russia he was persecuted for being a jew and when they moved to Israel he was persecuted for being a russian. Lose/Lose situation with those two places.

grape_of_wrath

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezXm9jkukBo

I was going by that, I assumed it was true since, it was ABC.

It's not neccesarily that they are hated so much more than other groups throughout history, it's just that they have publicized the incidents against them moreso than other groups.

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

i'd say perhaps because their stupid attitude that they are the 'chosen race' of the earth whilst everyone else beneath them. they cry for the world's attention & sympathy only to commit atrocities that would give us more than enough reason to toss them back or to have had left them in the gas chambers

Darkman2007

well that's what i mean. That they behave like they are the chosen HOUSE of god and act ignorant & aggressive(towards what's left of Palestine mainly)on that because they're fufilling 'the prophecy' of Abraham or whoever to regain Zion

Of course i say the chamber thingsomewhat sarcastically because as i said, they ask for help and then act no better than those who tossed them in back in the dayto get cooked/fumogated/skinned.

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

i'd say perhaps because their stupid attitude that they are the 'chosen race' of the earth whilst everyone else beneath them. they cry for the world's attention & sympathy only to commit atrocities that would give us more than enough reason to toss them back or to have had left them in the gas chambers

_R34LiTY_

well that's what i mean. That they behave like they are the chosen HOUSE of god and act ignorant & aggressive(towards what's left of Palestine mainly)on that because they're fufilling 'the prophecy' of Abraham or whoever to regain Zion

Of course i say the chamber thingsomewhat sarcastically because as i said, they ask for help and then act no better than those who tossed them in back in the dayto get cooked/fumogated/skinned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezXm9jkukBo

I was going by that, I assumed it was true since, it was ABC.

Espada12

Because people are retards.

Probably because they massacred the spokesman of the most popular religion.

CosmicZombie