why are people in iraq who fight against americans called "terrorist"

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#1 snoopeymaster
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ok so lets say tomorrow Russia attacks the U.S and invades it, there is no army because the us in INVADED.

The Russian soldiers are raping american woman, killing innocent people and basically ruining our country just like americans are in U.S( and dotn tell me they dont rape or kill innocents people because its on the news all the time)

Wouldnt you fight, not for your president or the country, fight to protect your people, to get the invaders out your country, to get the life you had once back. The Russians came and bomboed your city, killed your friends, destroyed your life, you would fight them wouldnt you? All the rage that would be built inside you, what if they killed all your family, wouldnt you fight them, fight for the people of your country?

Now tell me why are these people you kill american soldiers who have invaded their country, ruined their lives, raped their women, killed innocent people and kill their family called terrorist? These people aren't terrorist they are freedom fighters who are fighting the people who have ruined a country they worked so hard to build.

I know if some country invaded the U.S. i would pick up my 22 and M1911 .45 and go to war, i would fight till im dead because either way you lose everything.

All i want to know is that WHY people call these fighters terrorist?

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#2 Omni-Slash
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there is so much fail in this post I don't even know where to begin.....:|
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#3 LJS9502_basic  Online
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Wow...way to stick to the facts.:roll:
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#4 hiphops_savior
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I never call those guys terrorists, I call them millitants, since I don't know who's the bad guy and who's the good guys.
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#5 TrueReligion_
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Epic fail.
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#6 quiglythegreat
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Because they usually don't go for US troops. They usually go for innocent Iraqis with remote detonated bombs. Sounds like terrorism to me.
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there is so much fail in this post I don't even know where to begin.....:|Omni-Slash
I can't even understand what he's talking about...:|
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there is so much fail in this post I don't even know where to begin.....:|Omni-Slash
what?
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Rape, torture, and collateral damage are not institutionalized by the U.S. military in any way. The rules of engagement are quite inhibiting to soldiers in combat situations, actually, and it has gotten more than a few killed. There are knuckleaheads in every organization in every country on earth, but it does not mean they represent the whole. Those who fight the Americans in I Iraq are allclassified as terrorists because their colleagues engage in torture, beheadings, disregard the Geneva Convention, regularly kill civilians deliberately,wish to regress to a society that resembles the Middle Ages, and fight under umbrella organizations such as Al Queda in Iraq that are classified as terrorist organizations by the governments of most industrialized countries.
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#10 SolidSnake35
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No matter what you believe, the Americans aren't trying to ruin Iraq. If they wanted to do that, they'd be doing a much 'better' job.
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#11 death_bagel
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Umm personally I feel offended because I am Russian in all seriousness. :( I know you wanted an example but why Russia and why do you have to get so detailed.
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#12 JLAudio7
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Thats just their name.kind of like how US are Allies, Germany is Axis, and then Iraq is Terrorists.
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Rape, torture, and collateral damage are not institutionalized by the U.S. military in any way. The rules of engagement are quite inhibiting to soldiers in combat situations, actually, and it has gotten more than a few killed. There are knuckleaheads in every organization in every country on earth, but it does not mean they represent the whole. Those who fight the Americans in I Iraq are allclassified as terrorists because their colleagues engage in torture, beheadings, disregard the Geneva Convention, regularly kill civilians deliberately,wish to regress to a society that resembles the Middle Ages, and fight under umbrella organizations such as Al Queda in Iraq that are classified as terrorist organizations by the governments of most industrialized countries.xXBuffJeffXx
ahh good point, but i bet if russia attacked u.s and some millitia group started and saw people supporting the russians i bet these people would blow them up, behead them and torture them for helping the enemy of the U.S.(i forgot the word for it) which is the BIGGEST crime you can commit. I bet these are extremest like that here in the U.S. too
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#14 snoopeymaster
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Umm personally I feel offended because I am Russian in all seriousness. :( I know you wanted an example but why Russia and why do you have to get so detailed.death_bagel
because russia's government threatened to bomb the U.S, if they put missile defence in that one country in europe that i forgot the name for
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#15 UTXII
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Because they terrorize! :)
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#16 Def_Jef88
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you dont seem to know what youre talking about...
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#17 snoopeymaster
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you dont seem to know what youre talking about...Def_Jef88
if you do then please explain since i dont :)
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#18 X360PS3AMD05
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Because not calling them that would make sense and America doesn't have any.
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#19 Guiltfeeder566
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Becuase I wouldn't strap a bomb to myself and run into a crowd with the intention of killing my fellow Americans, like what is happening in Iraq.
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[QUOTE="xXBuffJeffXx"]Rape, torture, and collateral damage are not institutionalized by the U.S. military in any way. The rules of engagement are quite inhibiting to soldiers in combat situations, actually, and it has gotten more than a few killed. There are knuckleaheads in every organization in every country on earth, but it does not mean they represent the whole. Those who fight the Americans in I Iraq are allclassified as terrorists because their colleagues engage in torture, beheadings, disregard the Geneva Convention, regularly kill civilians deliberately,wish to regress to a society that resembles the Middle Ages, and fight under umbrella organizations such as Al Queda in Iraq that are classified as terrorist organizations by the governments of most industrialized countries.snoopeymaster
ahh good point, but i bet if russia attacked u.s and some millitia group started and saw people supporting the russians i bet these people would blow them up, behead them and torture them for helping the enemy of the U.S.(i forgot the word for it) which is the BIGGEST crime you can commit. I bet these are extremest like that here in the U.S. too

That's a WAR crime. Terrorists don't go for soldiers necessarily. They just want to scare people and they don't care what they have to do to do acheive these ends. It may involve, say, killing tens of thousands of your own countrymen on purpose to antagonize them against some emperial Western power occupying your country....
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but i bet if russia attacked u.s and some millitia group started and saw people supporting the russians i bet these people would blow them up, behead them and torture them for helping the enemy of the U.S.(i forgot the word for it) which is the BIGGEST crime you can commit. I bet these are extremest like that here in the U.S. toosnoopeymaster

Uh...this may have escaped your notice...but our military would handle the invading forces.

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#22 Def_Jef88
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[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]you dont seem to know what youre talking about...snoopeymaster
if you do then please explain since i dont :)

The people "defending" Iraq regularly kill innocent civilians. The US Government doesent condone the actions of the very few soldiers and marines whom committed rape, homicide, etc, etc. Also, the fact that you trust the news as an accurate account is another good indication that you don't know ****.

I could sit here and type it all out again, but others in this thread have done a fine job calling you out...

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#23 power_rangerer
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because they're terrorists lol
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Wow that post was really hard to read...It went around the world in half a second -__-
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there is so much fail in this post I don't even know where to begin.....:|Omni-Slash

true dat

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#26 Fire_Ants
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Erm...have you been shut off from the news or something? :?

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#27 ElZilcho90
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there is so much fail in this post I don't even know where to begin.....:|Omni-Slash

...I think reading that post made something in my brain snap.

And to answer the TC's question, the reason they are terrorists is because they routinely use the tactic of killing civilians to forward their goals.

As for this "rape and murder" bollocks, exaggerate much? The US Army is hardly a bunch of Cossacks, raping and pillaging across the jolly green acres of Iraq.

Looks like someone's been watching too much Red Dawn.

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Because they usually don't go for US troops. They usually go for innocent Iraqis with remote detonated bombs. Sounds like terrorism to me.quiglythegreat

Do you ever wonder if they play that joke on each other? "I'm going to blow myself up right here!!!!" *click* Nothing happens. xD

The reason why they are terrorists because they want to convert the entire world to Islam...In order to do that, the radicals are trying to kill everyone who stands in their path.

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[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]Because they usually don't go for US troops. They usually go for innocent Iraqis with remote detonated bombs. Sounds like terrorism to me.ChicaQueenWarGa

Do you ever wonder if they play that joke on each other? "I'm going to blow myself up right here!!!!" *click* Nothing happens. xD

The reason why they are terrorists because they want to convert the entire world to Islam...In order to do that, the radicals are trying to kill everyone who stands in their path.

They aren't doing a very good job convincing me.

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#30 darkfox101
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ok so lets say tomorrow Russia attacks the U.S and invades it, there is no army because the us in INVADED.

The Russian soldiers are raping american woman, killing innocent people and basically ruining our country just like americans are in U.S( and dotn tell me they dont rape or kill innocents people because its on the news all the time)

Wouldnt you fight, not for your president or the country, fight to protect your people, to get the invaders out your country, to get the life you had once back. The Russians came and bomboed your city, killed your friends, destroyed your life, you would fight them wouldnt you? All the rage that would be built inside you, what if they killed all your family, wouldnt you fight them, fight for the people of your country?

Now tell me why are these people you kill american soldiers who have invaded their country, ruined their lives, raped their women, killed innocent people and kill their family called terrorist? These people aren't terrorist they are freedom fighters who are fighting the people who have ruined a country they worked so hard to build.

I know if some country invaded the U.S. i would pick up my 22 and M1911 .45 and go to war, i would fight till im dead because either way you lose everything.

All i want to know is that WHY people call these fighters terrorist?

snoopeymaster
Because they are brainwashed by people who used religion to do it.... plus were liberating not invading
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Only in Ot.
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#33 Brmarlin
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Umm personally I feel offended because I am Russian in all seriousness. :( I know you wanted an example but why Russia and why do you have to get so detailed.death_bagel

Because someone's been reading a bit much Tom Clancy.

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#34 trix5817
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There's too many things wrong with that post.
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#35 elblanquito_81
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One thing that you seriously overlooked, TC, is that these people you claim are "freedom fighters" are not even native born Iraqis. They are extremists brought into the countryby Al Qaeda in Iraq from various countries throughout the Middle East.

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#36 123625
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Why would russia invade?
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#37 ElZilcho90
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Why would russia invade?123625

Because Patrick Swayze said so!

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#38 Funkyhamster
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They're not terrorists... they're insurgents.
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#39 Ze_ALEX
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FAIL FAIL FAIL
i stopped reading after you said something on how we rape women

just fail
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#40 UrbanSpartan125
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Geographically the United States is nearly impossible to invade, so your paragraph is nullified from your first sentence. If they did happen to get past our Navy in the Atlantic or Pacific, they would be destroyed before coming close to the US. The Cold War is over the US won, Russia isnt nearly as strong as you think it is.

They are called terrorists becuase, they kill without reason and target troops and innocent civilians. Sounds like terrorism.

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drink up tc

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wow, and i was looking for an intelligent OP, silly me
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Hey, America wants oil, Iraq has oil, America invades Iraq. Then they call Iraqi patriots who defend their country with their soul and blood"terrorists".

Who is the invader, and who is the defender? answer me americans? who had Iraq first and who came and raped BUT GOT RAPED~!

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#45 ItalStallion777
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Hey, America wants oil, Iraq has oil, America invades Iraq. Then they call Iraqi patriots who defend their country with their soul and blood"terrorists".

Who is the invader, and who is the defender? answer me americans? who had Iraq first and who came and raped BUT GOT RAPED~!

LOLuMADzz

so much intelligence in this thread.:|
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#46 AlternatingCaps
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The difference here is the the US is attacking the armed militants (the terrorists) and only them. Sure, there are soldiers that screw off and disobey, but overall they only use violence against the enemy.

However, those enemies are terrorists because they have the intention of killing innocent people and the opposing side as well as causing terror (hence the name) by whatever cruel means they can (televised executions, putting babies in microwaves, suicide bombs, etc) for the cause of spreading Islam to everyone in the world, eliminating those who stand in their way, cleansing the nonbelievers.

ALSO, the United States uses a lot of precision weapons, accurate M16s (with 3-round burst fire to avoid spray and conserve ammo), laser-guided bombs, such. We have yet to deploy a single MOAB, BLU-82 (Daisy Cutter), carpet bombing, or gravity bomb (dumb fire) of any sort in Iraq (except maybe against the Taliban in the immediate aftermath of 9/11).

Speaking of 9/11, anyone who calls that anything but terrorism needs to be punched. Flying a plane full of innocent people into a major civilian structure can't possibly be called anything else.

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#47 Norg
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acctually most of them came form another countries around the middle east to fight and kill americans and kill iraqis that support america

and they also killed suni and shiates in the effort to start a civil war

so there not really freedom fighter they could care less about iraq there main goal is to kill White people LOL

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#48 SOTE
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because of people like you who voted for george w bush? but they call them terrorist cause what kind of moron television news station would call the people who can confiscate their life in a second women raping invaders who are terrible. support the troops comes up a lot cause they are just doing their jobs just some get crazy along the way blame the people at the top not the little guy
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Phail of Incomprehendible magnitudeTrueReligion_
Fixed :wink:
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It's easier to say than edg4u5am