Why are there people against the death penalty?

Why shouldn't a killer be killed?BananaNuts

Because killing that person is the easy way out for them.

I hate to sound like this, but that person should have to be in prison and live with the guilt for the rest of his/her life and suffer.

Killing the killer is revenge and has nothing to do with actual justice.

The purpose of any system of imprisonment is the succesful rehabilitation of citizens back to society, not their elimination.

Besides, I find it utterly wrong to fix a problem by cutting it's reprecussions. The right method is to find the root of the evil and fix that. In this case it's the educational system, the family laws that will provide every child with a stable family environment and secure condition for the citizens of each country that will keep them away from poverty.

But again killing is such an easy sollution. Why not get rid of some heads in stead of fixing the major problems of every society :roll:

Why should a killer be killed, if he/she is rendered unable to continue the killing?BiancaDK

Because what if you convict someone innocent? You can't undo capital punishment.starmetroid

[QUOTE="starmetroid"]Because what if you convict someone innocent? You can't undo capital punishment.Teenaged

How do you render that sort of outcome? Hands and feet in a blender? Blender rendered appendages!Jandurin

Because killing that person is the easy way out for them.

I hate to sound like this, but that person should have to be in prison and live with the guilt for the rest of his/her life and suffer.

Zeromus1337

ohh yeah...live in prison where they have the RIGHT to watch tv and work out, and go outside, and play cards and such, and are given 3 square meals a day and a bed to sleep in every night......PRISON IS A JOKE in most places... Bleeding Hearts and Mothers of America are turning this Country to Crap.... SUFFER???? HA keep dreaming buddy

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="starmetroid"]Because what if you convict someone innocent? You can't undo capital punishment.Jandurin

What if you're guilty and in prison you find Jesus? Locke562

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Because killing that person is the easy way out for them.

I hate to sound like this, but that person should have to be in prison and live with the guilt for the rest of his/her life and suffer.

devildogcollier

ohh yeah...live in prison where they have the RIGHT to watch tv and work out, and go outside, and play cards and such, and are given 3 square meals a day and a bed to sleep in every night......PRISON IS A JOKE in most places... Bleeding Hearts and Mothers of America are turning this Country to Crap.... SUFFER???? HA keep dreaming buddy

[QUOTE="Locke562"]What if you're guilty and in prison you find Jesus? Jandurin

It's easy. Just kill the person in the exact same fashion that they killed the victim. Why do I always have to come up with all the solutions?FragStains

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Locke562"]What if you're guilty and in prison you find Jesus? Locke562

i dont mean to sound like a total jerk....devildogcollier

[QUOTE="FragStains"]It's easy. Just kill the person in the exact same fashion that they killed the victim. Why do I always have to come up with all the solutions?Jandurin

Because then you might end up in jail with a sore bum. ;)Locke562

Its the easy way out.... Why not make killer suffer?horgen123

Because killing that person is the easy way out for them.

I hate to sound like this, but that person should have to be in prison and live with the guilt for the rest of his/her life and suffer.

Zeromus1337

If making the guilty suffer is the goal, why not regularly subject them to torture?

[QUOTE="devildogcollier"]i dont mean to sound like a total jerk....Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="starmetroid"]Because what if you convict someone innocent? You can't undo capital punishment.Jandurin

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="devildogcollier"]i dont mean to sound like a total jerk....FragStains

Those condition don't excuse them, don't get me wrong, but they should be taken into consideration.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]That too offcourse is good enough reason why it shouldn't be used.esbastica

People think they deserve a second chance.aaronmullan

[QUOTE="Locke562"]Because then you might end up in jail with a sore bum. ;)Jandurin

Besides, There are way more fun sins out there that wont land you in jail :PLocke562

[QUOTE="Locke562"]Besides, There are way more fun sins out there that wont land you in jail :PJandurin

EDIT: We're talking about sins here and not illegal activites :P

[QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]You just sounded angry at them I too am, but think that no one is born a killer. Those people most likely became because they weren't as lucky as you and I, didn't have as good parents as you and me, had no proper education etc.Teenaged

Those condition don't excuse them, don't get me wrong, but they should be taken into consideration.

I will not tell you about my sex life. :PLocke562

because i dont want to die:twisted: :P

[QUOTE="Locke562"]I will not tell you about my sex life. :PBiancaDK

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[QUOTE="FragStains"]Why would those conditions make you feel the need to kill someone else. If they are that unhappy, and they think their life sucks that much, just kill themselves and stop bringing the rest of us down with them.FragStains

Those condition don't excuse them, don't get me wrong, but they should be taken into consideration.

An eye for an eye..Can make the world go blind.b3yondstupidity

An eye for an eye..Can make the world go blind.b3yondstupidity

And a tooth for a tooth makes the world... smack its gums like Grandma does when she takes her dentures out?

Because whoever kills the killer then becomes the killer and must be killed :oJandurin

This, it should be a standard practice of humanity that nobody should be allowed to kill anybody unless its self defence.

[QUOTE="b3yondstupidity"]An eye for an eye..Can make the world go blind.Jandurin

But again killing is such an easy sollution. Why not get rid of some heads in stead of fixing the major problems of every society :roll:

Teenaged

Not even "every society". The rate of violent crime in the USA is quite high. But here people have been duped into thinking that the solution is to execute a few guys per year. We then go along thinking that everything is okay when absolutely nothing got fixed and the rate of violent crime remains high. Rather than actually solving problems, we're more interested in symbols. Make a few heads roll (metaphorically...we don't do decapitations) as a SYMBOL of the justice system working, and that's as far as most people are willing to care about solutions.

[QUOTE="devildogcollier"]i dont mean to sound like a total jerk....Teenaged

Jesus Wept I cant believe how long it took for someone to point this out.

People kill for a reason. Theres no such thing as EVIL! Humans are born with major flaws from day one were ruled by our genetics and by our upbringing. Who ever came up with the idea that humans have free will was giving us FAR too much credit. Our ability to control ourselves and make informed decisions is limited, at best, to a very narrow range of situations. Most of us live in a world with few extremes. Due to our genes we dont suffer from extreme emotions. Due to our upbringings we are taught how to behave to keep the society functioning, and most of us are capable of understanding these concepts easily enough. Other people however arent so lucky!!!!

When someone goes to commit an attrocity do you really think they know what they are doing? Do you think their thought processes in any way resemble what you or I (average "sane" people, I assume)think in those times?Its easy to say that you wouldnt do that if you were in their shoes .... but the truth is that you would! If you had their exact genetic and chemical disposition, combined with their exact upbringing and were faced with exactly the same situation as them you would do exactly what they did. Because you would be them, and thats the only time you can ever fairly compare.

Murders and such are commited primarily because of anger (or a similarly strong emotion), a physical condition (which some people are far more succeptible to than others due to genetics and upbringing)caused by chemicals in the body which make a person less consciously in control of their actions. Alternatively there are psychopaths, whose brains from birth simply do not work like ours. Can we really blame people for acting the way they were (to put it in technical terms) built and then programmed to act?

Personally I blame society, and I blame God (except since I dont believe in him I blame evolution for being, understandably, a flawed process). I do not blame the individuals and therefore cannot condone killing them. Im not saying they should be removed from society to a place where they cant hurt again, but killing them? No thanks.

Genia

How dare you question Gandhi :PLocke562