Why are there people against the death penalty?

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Well, you'd think it would be, but murder rates are higher in the states where it carries the death penalty than those where it doesn't. Go figure.Jandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Well, you'd think it would be, but murder rates are higher in the states where it carries the death penalty than those where it doesn't. Go figure.Teenaged

[QUOTE="Locke562"]Here's one about Rageaholics Specifically: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/16161/anger_management_the_rageaholics_mind.html?cat=5Jandurin

Because we can all say "I don't buy this, I don't buy that" etc etc and then judge by that...

The fact that you and other epople don't buy it shouldn't have a reprecussion on some people's lives.Teenaged

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] Maybe the murder rates were always higher, so that's why they brought about the death penalty?Jandurin

Because we can all say "I don't buy this, I don't buy that" etc etc and then judge by that...

Teenaged

States with budget crisis' looking to cut their costs long term and short term could do away with the death penalty to lower their budget in the long term as it costs more to sentence a convicted felon to death due to the lengthy appeals process.Locke562

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Because we can all say "I don't buy this, I don't buy that" etc etc and then judge by that...

Jandurin

What are opinions? Are they onions with pins in them?

[QUOTE="Locke562"]States with budget crisis' looking to cut their costs long term and short term could do away with the death penalty to lower their budget in the long term as it costs more to sentence a convicted felon to death due to the lengthy appeals process.Jandurin

What are opinions? Are they onions with pins in them?

Mike-uk

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] Maybe the murder rates were always higher, so that's why they brought about the death penalty?Jandurin

Sure things have progressed, but people will still be angry if a criminal does something to them or their family and they will want revenge. Who will rationalize them? No one because everyone would want revenge in a case like that and fully support it. So the question is: do you think most people who support death penalty want to make society better or want to relieve their pain by having revenge?

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What are opinions? Are they onions with pins in them?

Jandurin

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Because we can all say "I don't buy this, I don't buy that" etc etc and then judge by that...

Jandurin

So the question is: do you think most people who support death penalty want to make society better or want to relieve their pain by having revenge?Teenaged

[QUOTE="fastesttruck"] Then let a killer that is about to be killed kill the killer and then have some other killer kill the killer that just killed the killer >_>Jandurin

[QUOTE="sAndroid17"][QUOTE="PlaWeird"]Man. They're freakin' human. I don't think you'd appreciate a bullet in the head just 'cause you did something wrong, no matter how bad and wrong you did. We're not the ones to judge from other people's lives.Funky_Llama

Because its horribly hypocritical... and it cost more money than just throwing them in prison... DJ_Novakain

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]Because its horribly hypocritical... and it cost more money than just throwing them in prison... jimmyjammer69

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]So the question is: do you think most people who support death penalty want to make society better or want to relieve their pain by having revenge?Jandurin

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="sAndroid17"] yet people who murder people can?sAndroid17

We should just have prisoners fight each other Gladiator style!Jandurin

Scary fact: the average time served in US prison because of murder is 7.5 years, I kid you not SAGE_OF_FIRE

well I dont like it, but really why should we have to pay sooo much money to keep them in prison and it is ALOT of money!SAGE_OF_FIRE

[QUOTE="sAndroid17"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]:roll: He didn't even suggest that that was the case.Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]We should just have prisoners fight each other Gladiator style!horgen123

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]Scary fact: the average time served in US prison because of murder is 7.5 years, I kid you not Jandurin

[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]We should just have prisoners fight each other Gladiator style!Jandurin

Because whoever kills the killer then becomes the killer and must be killed :oJandurin

[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] Damn straight. The Romans knew what was up. They took their societal outliers and pitted them against each other, and made money off of 'em.Locke562

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]Because its horribly hypocritical... and it cost more money than just throwing them in prison... DJ_Novakain

Anyway, this is the nearest I could get to any proof. There are no graphs, and some of the sources are newspaper articles, but a number of case studies are mentioned, all of which conclude that the death penalty is more expensive than life imprisonment, by up to as much as three times.

The main reason seems to be that only around 12% of people sentenced to death are actually executed, with most of them spending a life in prison instead.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]Scary fact: the average time served in US prison because of murder is 7.5 years, I kid you not DJ_Novakain

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] I wonder if that statistic includes manslaughter?jimmyjammer69

BS. I don't believe some people get more powerful harder to resist anger. That's taking responsibility away from them. That's just BS.Jandurin

Hahahaha. I realise your role here is more to inflame than anything but this truly made me laugh. Next youll be telling me that people are all born with the same hair colour, eye colour and same adult height ... and then we just WILL ourselves to become what we want! Damn ... if only someone told me that earlier!

Genia

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] I wonder if that statistic includes manslaughter?jimmyjammer69

Why shouldn't a killer be killed?BananaNuts

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="sAndroid17"]did you see a question mark at the end of my post?:| i was asking a question, not making a statement:roll:sAndroid17

[QUOTE="BananaNuts"]Why shouldn't a killer be killed?TormentedHero

And life in prison is a worse punishment. The amount of people who have tried (or succeeded) to commit suicide in prison shows that.Bourbons3