Why aren't Horror Movies scary anymore...?

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#1 clembo1990
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That's the subject of today's talking points memo-

Take a comparatively low budget film like "Alien". $10 mil and Ridley Scott managed to scare the parts off of people using a beachball and tubes from vaccum cleaners. Or Alfred Hitchcock, a couple of bags of birdseed and an actress who's good at screaming and you have the paranoia inducing film about flesh-eating birds.

"Ahhhhh!"

"**** off! Shoo! Shoo! "

In theory, a hollywood director with millions of dollars to work with and decades to make a remake of an oldie could do a better job. Alas, nay. I fail to be moved into a corner by any of these modern horrors from Hollywood. I fail to see how the "Saw" series is deemed as horror. It's more a collection of undesirable scenarios. "Sure I don't want to saw off my own leg, but you know i'd do it if I would die otherwise. Surely you're just watching me saw my own leg you sick freak. And that jigsaw guy isn't even scary, MJ looks scarier than him."

"Oh, Hai!"

The last thing to scare me was the Spannish El Orphanato or The Orphanage, and I pretty much laid a brick when

[spolier]they were playing the knock knock game - *shudder* [/spolier]

"Burn it! Burn it with fire!"

Is hollywood loosing it's touch all-together? Has there been a good horror film from Tinsel-town recently?

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#3 RobbieH1234
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The Orphanage was excellent.

[spoiler] You're right about the knock knock scene. Best scene in the film. [/spoiler]

[REC] got me a few times, too.

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I haven't watched too many scary movies, but one scary movie that really horrifies me till this day is the Excorsist. I think it's because it's so realistic and stuff like that does happen in real life. So I can never watch this movie, not even with family and friends. It's the ONLY scary movie that I can't watch because it scared the living daylights out of me. I didn't even go to the re-release in the theathers when my family went to watch it. That's how much I avoided it.

But all the other scary movies are too ridiculous to be scary and I don't even budge with them.

But The Grudge did make me jump out of my seat a few times. But it's not as frightening like Excorsist where I avoid the movie at all cost. I can watch the Grudge again and it wouldn't scare me anymore.

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#5 ASK_Story
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One more point "why" horror movies aren't scary anymore. I think it's because the filmmakers focus more on gore and bloodiness rather than trying to genuinely scare you. They think having more violence is scary. But that's not true. It's gross, but not scary, two different things, just like disturbing is not the same thing as being scary.
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#6 irelevent
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I'm sure it's because they look too sharp. for me at least, i can only get scared from movies where the main image is fuzzy, like anything before the 90's. but i have no idea why that is.
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Horror films these days have lost their horror element. Most of them these days are all about unnecessary gore and tasteless nudity. If their is one genre of movies that needs an overhaul it's the horror genre, they have lost their way.
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#8 glenn2709
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Try watching Asian horror movies those are the real scary ones, Hollywood horror films makes me sleep though.
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#9 Silent-Hal
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Horror movies weren't scary back in the day either. I can list the films that have genuinely scared me on one hand.
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#10 MikeLirette
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I think it's just like as if people don't really like being scared anymore... and people complain.
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Focus on gore and not suspense and atmosphere...
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#13 Scianix-Black
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Japanese people know how to get in your head.. which is probably why they're so smart... which might explain their high expectations for their kids... as well as the high suicide rate...
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#14 mlbslugger86
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maybe because they focus more on having young hot babes get down rather than invest in making a scary backround and atmosphere?

house of wax is case in point, and not even the exorcist scared me

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u're getting bigger ,that's why ,u used to get scared by oldschools because u've been scared as a kid and keep enjoying them because of the good memory they resurrect in u while watching.
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#16 mlbslugger86
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its mostly the reason action movies have become toned down...pg-13...
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Because nobody has made a movie about super aids
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#18 caddy
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I think one of the factors is because we have seen it all before, and more. If a film has gore in it now it doesn't mean anything since so many films have had gore in them in the past few years. We have seen the best horror films years ago, and as usual, filmmakers today can never re-create the classics.
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#19 JustPlainLucas
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I'd say the alarming rise of torture porn is what contributes to modern horror films just not delivering anymore. When film studios realized that movies with shock gore can bring in just as many people as really scary movies, it became more of a production thing than an artistic directorial thing. Either that, or we're just so disensetized to these movies now, we wouldn't know a good horror movie if it chopped our head off. BTW, have you seen Frailty clembo?
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Its the casting of pretty young people, pandering to the teen-age audience, and lack of writting skills that have killed modern horror movies.
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#21 euphzilla03
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Gore and Sex..also lack of creative storylines...I mean look at how many times they bled Jason. Michael,Freddy, and Pinhead's escapades to death..
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But The Grudge did make me jump out of my seat a few times. But it's not as frightening like Excorsist where I avoid the movie at all cost. I can watch the Grudge again and it wouldn't scare me anymore.

ASK_Story

I simply can't watch the original, it's too scary. I literally freeze in my chair like this:

*shudder*

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#23 Silent-Hal
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Uh don't get me started on Ju-On. That was an awful film and I don't know why it gets the recognition it does. There wasn't anything scary about it.
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#24 Evil_Saluki
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CGI lacks substance, and it's used too much in supernatural horror films. I think the last Horror to give me that lovley creeped out feeling was Sam Ramey's version of The Grudge. I know it used some CGI, and I was put off by the first appearance of the ghost when it was flying in the air. But afterwards, that pale face, unearthly stare combined with the croaked, gargling sound was pretty effective.

CGI is ok for doing tricks, but we keep having movies create whole creatures, people or rooms which just don't look right.

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[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]

But The Grudge did make me jump out of my seat a few times. But it's not as frightening like Excorsist where I avoid the movie at all cost. I can watch the Grudge again and it wouldn't scare me anymore.clembo1990

I simply can't watch the original, it's too scary. I literally freeze in my chair like this:img src="http://sea.blox.pl/resource/juon.jpg" border="0" width="500" height="314" /*shudder*

Please, J-Horror movies and J-Horror remakes are so trite and stale it could not scare a 3 year old.

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Here what i think, i know you guys are say that there not enough gore, or directors not doing as a good job anyone, and other rants.

Don't forget people that we are still creatures, highly evolve beings from the animal world. even though we don't have to really think that life is that hard anymore, we are always be tune to our surrounding.

Movies that are scary are the ones you will not be-expecting an scare over and over, mainly because people now smart enough to inorge certain moment's in the movies. If you did get scare from a movie, you take that learning moment into your next movie, and if something that going to happen that your now capable of-knowing so, it won't be as scary.

You also have to count the movie it self, yea sure you went to see it in theatres, but the movie is only projected on that screen of white frabit. your not really the people in the movie, just viewers, so you know you will be all-ways safe and not fear for your own life.

I can get scare a couple of-time, there was that great moment near the end of Qurtaitain that made me jump a little. But like a lot of other people, we just watch the movie for the sure fun of watching people getting killed of rater by getting scared of it, that because we are-not that really afraid anymore. we know so many tricks now that it getting very hard for movie makers to make-any real good scary movies anymore.

Horror movies, unless some one(Probably someone Japanese dude like that one post said LOL) fine-some ways to fool anyone with an new type of scare, those movies will only be view as bloody and violent, not scary.

Remember people, were animals, we can learn from our experience.

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#27 clembo1990
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Here what i think, i know you guys are say that there not enough gore, or directors not doing as a good job anyone, and other rants.

Don't forget people that we are still creatures, highly evolve beings from the animal world. even though we don't have to really think that life is that hard anymore, we are always be tune to our surrounding.

Movies that are scary are the ones you will not be-expecting an scare over and over, mainly because people now smart enough to inorge certain moment's in the movies. If you did get scare from a movie, you take that learning moment into your next movie, and if something that going to happen that your now capable of-knowing so, it won't be as scary.

You also have to count the movie it self, yea sure you went to see it in theatres, but the movie is only projected on that screen of white frabit. your not really the people in the movie, just viewers, so you know you will be all-ways safe and not fear for your own life.

I can get scare a couple of-time, there was that great moment near the end of Qurtaitain that made me jump a little. But like a lot of other people, we just watch the movie for the sure fun of watching people getting killed of rater by getting scared of it, that because we are-not that really afraid anymore. we know so many tricks now that it getting very hard for movie makers to make-any real good scary movies anymore.

Horror movies, unless some one(Probably someone Japanese dude like that one post said LOL) fine-some ways to fool anyone with an new type of scare, those movies will only be view as bloody and violent, not scary.

Remember people, were animals, we can learn from our experience.

shemrom
Sometimes, expectation is wrong. What I expected from watching some very cumby horrors was only slightly off and it made me jump. Instead of making something new, how about directors employing more devices like red-herrings. Not lulling us into a false sense of security, that's been done too often, more like making the film out to be something generic and change it drastically like the coen brothers do. Or even like From Dusk Till Dawn, but, y'know actually scary and stuff. [spoiler] Come on! Who here actually expected vampires if they saw it on TV one night? I sure as hell didn't [/spoiler]
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Here what i think, i know you guys are say that there not enough gore, or directors not doing as a good job anyone, and other rants.

Don't forget people that we are still creatures, highly evolve beings from the animal world. even though we don't have to really think that life is that hard anymore, we are always be tune to our surrounding.

Movies that are scary are the ones you will not be-expecting an scare over and over, mainly because people now smart enough to inorge certain moment's in the movies. If you did get scare from a movie, you take that learning moment into your next movie, and if something that going to happen that your now capable of-knowing so, it won't be as scary.

You also have to count the movie it self, yea sure you went to see it in theatres, but the movie is only projected on that screen of white frabit. your not really the people in the movie, just viewers, so you know you will be all-ways safe and not fear for your own life.

I can get scare a couple of-time, there was that great moment near the end of Qurtaitain that made me jump a little. But like a lot of other people, we just watch the movie for the sure fun of watching people getting killed of rater by getting scared of it, that because we are-not that really afraid anymore. we know so many tricks now that it getting very hard for movie makers to make-any real good scary movies anymore.

Horror movies, unless some one(Probably someone Japanese dude like that one post said LOL) fine-some ways to fool anyone with an new type of scare, those movies will only be view as bloody and violent, not scary.

Remember people, were animals, we can learn from our experience.

shemrom
No, people are saying there's too much gore, not not enough....
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Maybe you just get desensitized to horror after watching a lot of them... I love Japanese horror movies, personally.
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Like others have said, mainly its because of the recent focus on blood and gore rather than true suspense. Look at the movie Untraceable, for example...was that supposed to be scary? All it was was people occasionally being tortured in what otherwise a Lifetime crime movie.

The only movies that have scared me in a while were The Orphanage (same scene as you...watched that with friends and we all went nuts), [REC] (the last five minutes scared the life out of me...I heard the remake Quarantine was actually decent so I'll have to check it out), and The Descent.

I use The Descent with friends when they want a "scary" movie. None of them were expecting me to bring a movie that scary...I think I slightly traumatized them.
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I use The Descent with friends when they want a "scary" movie. None of them were expecting me to bring a movie that scary...I think I slightly traumatized them.Rockclmbr6
Oh God, what an awesome movie. I was terrified by it, but at times I tried to nullify the horror by screaming at the heroines, "Yeh, you beat that bastard! ... You go girl!" Which made me less scaid. D:
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Well when I were young, the Blair Witch Project scared the hell outta me. There aint any other films really, House On Haunted Hill I guess.
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Horror movies have always been stupid. Some are scary, but regardless, they're always sooooooo dumb. don't deny it, you all agree with me.
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I haven't watched too many scary movies, but one scary movie that really horrifies me till this day is the Excorsist. I think it's because it's so realistic and stuff like that does happen in real life.

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same here i still havnt seen it all though
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One more point "why" horror movies aren't scary anymore. I think it's because the filmmakers focus more on gore and bloodiness rather than trying to genuinely scare you. They think having more violence is scary. But that's not true. It's gross, but not scary, two different things, just like disturbing is not the same thing as being scary.ASK_Story
My thoughts exactly.
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Horror movies have always been stupid. Some are scary, but regardless, they're always sooooooo dumb. don't deny it, you all agree with me.BiafraBeliever
Ack, nay. Alas, they are not my favorite genre but there have been some very immensive horrors that serve their purpose of making me soil myself.
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#37 x_Martyr_x
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correction : horror movies were never scary before, horror movies today are.

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#38 kingdre
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I think Hollywood horror movies are getting more and more lame. Asian horror, on the other hand, still manages to scare the **** out of me.
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BC they ran out of good ideas for a new movie.
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The newest horror film I've watched was [REC] which the forbidden site told me was bri/x/ worthy. Although it was pretty good, I didn't get too scared until the end where I kind of jumped. Other than that just me and one specific friend have a few times watched a bunch of good old horror movies.
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correction : horror movies were never scary before, horror movies today are.

x_Martyr_x
Examples would be great. The Exorcist, The Shining, Halloween and Psycho are all leagues ahead of Saw, Hostel, Quarantine and The Strangers...
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[QUOTE="Rockclmbr6"]I use The Descent with friends when they want a "scary" movie. None of them were expecting me to bring a movie that scary...I think I slightly traumatized them.super_mario_128
Oh God, what an awesome movie. I was terrified by it, but at times I tried to nullify the horror by screaming at the heroines, "Yeh, you beat that bastard! ... You go girl!" Which made me less scaid. D:

Is that movie like super good? I constantly hear that it is really scary, but I don't know anyone in real life who has seen it...
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maybe back in the days of alfred hitchcock, but ever since the 80s Horror movies were sadistic pornography rather than horror.

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#44 super_mario_128
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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Rockclmbr6"]I use The Descent with friends when they want a "scary" movie. None of them were expecting me to bring a movie that scary...I think I slightly traumatized them.musicaz70
Oh God, what an awesome movie. I was terrified by it, but at times I tried to nullify the horror by screaming at the heroines, "Yeh, you beat that bastard! ... You go girl!" Which made me less scaid. D:

Is that movie like super good? I constantly hear that it is really scary, but I don't know anyone in real life who has seen it...

It's one of the best horror movies of this decade, and it can certainly rival the likes of the classics from the 70's and 80's. It takes place in a cave, and the camera-work makes it all the more creepy. The 'things' are kind of lame though imo.
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#45 ragek1ll589
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[QUOTE="x_Martyr_x"]

correction : horror movies were never scary before, horror movies today are.

super_mario_128

Examples would be great. The Exorcist, The Shining, Halloween and Psycho are all leagues ahead of Saw, Hostel, Quarantine and The Strangers...

A few good horror movies make it out these days, but usually get overlooked because they lack the softcore porn element.

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Horror films these days have lost their horror element. Most of them these days are all about unnecessary gore and tasteless nudity. If their is one genre of movies that needs an overhaul it's the horror genre, they have lost their way.ragek1ll589
Boobs and Brains is the only way to make horror! /sarcasm.
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Most horror movies (if you want to call them that) are mainly torture porn. Most studios see the success from Saw and Hostel and realize that this is what the public wants. It really is sad.
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#48 fatjack04
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Old 'horror' movies aren't scary at all. The birds, psycho, the shining (
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#49 fatjack04
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Idk what went wrong with that post I tried.

But i said that The Birds, Psycho, and The Shining aren't scary at all. The Shining is so horrible to me and I don't understand why its reviewed so well.

The only movie that made me completely frightened throughout was Quarantine. I was really surprised how scared I was.

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Member since 2008 • 839 Posts

I think Hollywood horror movies are getting more and more lame. Asian horror, on the other hand, still manages to scare the **** out of me.kingdre

asian horror films are awful.