Why aren't Horror Movies scary anymore...?

[QUOTE="x_Martyr_x"]

correction : horror movies were never scary before, horror movies today are.

super_mario_128

no, they aren't.

i dont need examples, old horror movies speak for themselves, i dont care how strong the writing or plot is, they look terrible. horror is very visual as well, (and im not talking about gore necessarily.)

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="x_Martyr_x"]

correction : horror movies were never scary before, horror movies today are.

x_Martyr_x

no, they aren't.

i dont need examples, old horror movies speak for themselves, i dont care how strong the writing or plot is, they look terrible. horror is very visual as well, (and im not talking about gore necessarily.)

The Orphanage was excellent.

.REC got me a few times, too.

RobbieH1234

I don't know what to say about the horror movies from the 50's to 60's. I never found them scary. I just find the music laughable. They were better in their time. The 70's sprung out a few great horrors which still stand up today, and the 80's... Heh.

Back in the 80's, when I was a little boy I used to watch certificate 18 horrors. Back then it was mega gore and monster films such as Hellraiser, Nightmare of Elm Street and many, many more. The horror style back then was very viseral. Kind of, here is a scary monster made up in a creature shop coming at you, wanting to eat your intestines. It'll show people being skinned and stuff, a lot of make up, raspberry juice and screaming. It scared the hell out of me when I was that age. But now it's just silly fun and I doubt it will have any effect on the average person over the age of 12.

One more point "why" horror movies aren't scary anymore. I think it's because the filmmakers focus more on gore and bloodiness rather than trying to genuinely scare you. They think having more violence is scary. But that's not true. It's gross, but not scary, two different things, just like disturbing is not the same thing as being scary.ASK_Story

That's pretty much how I feel about this subject.

[QUOTE="x_Martyr_x"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"] Examples would be great. The Exorcist, The Shining, Halloween and Psycho are all leagues ahead of Saw, Hostel, Quarantine and The Strangers...sammyjenkis898

no, they aren't.

i dont need examples, old horror movies speak for themselves, i dont care how strong the writing or plot is, they look terrible. horror is very visual as well, (and im not talking about gore necessarily.)

a few films come to mind; wolf creek, the hills have eyes (remake), the strangers, open water, hostel. if were talking about supernatural horror i enjoyed 1408, the mist, ginger snaps.

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"][QUOTE="x_Martyr_x"]

no, they aren't.

i dont need examples, old horror movies speak for themselves, i dont care how strong the writing or plot is, they look terrible. horror is very visual as well, (and im not talking about gore necessarily.)

x_Martyr_x

a few films come to mind; wolf creek, the hills have eyes (remake), the strangers, open water, hostel. if were talking about supernatural horror i enjoyed 1408, the mist, ginger snaps.

no, they aren't.

i dont need examples, old horror movies speak for themselves, i dont care how strong the writing or plot is, they look terrible. horror is very visual as well, (and im not talking about gore necessarily.)

a few films come to mind; wolf creek, the hills have eyes (remake), the strangers, open water, hostel. if were talking about supernatural horror i enjoyed 1408, the mist, ginger snaps.

Most horror movies (if you want to call them that) are mainly torture porn. Most studios see the success from Saw and Hostel and realize that this is what the public wants. It really is sad. sammyjenkis898

the only people who call horror movies "torture porn" are soccer moms and people who like watered down "safe" horror. horror movies aren't supposed to hold your hand while you watch them, they are meant to disgust and to frighten you. as wes craven puts it, "its not art until you have offended someone." i dont want horror movies to distract me from true evil, and thats why monsters are not scary. the real monsters are people. horror movies bring us to our primal instincts, and in a way we get to experience the real human condition, because its in facing death that we truly live.

no, they aren't.

i dont need examples, old horror movies speak for themselves, i dont care how strong the writing or plot is, they look terrible. horror is very visual as well, (and im not talking about gore necessarily.)

a few films come to mind; wolf creek, the hills have eyes (remake), the strangers, open water, hostel. if were talking about supernatural horror i enjoyed 1408, the mist, ginger snaps.

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]Most horror movies (if you want to call them that) are mainly torture porn. Most studios see the success from Saw and Hostel and realize that this is what the public wants. It really is sad. x_Martyr_x

the only people who call horror movies "torture porn" are soccer moms and people who like watered down "safe" horror. horror movies aren't supposed to hold your hand while you watch them, they are meant to disgust and to frighten you. as wes craven puts it, "its not art until you have offended someone." i dont want horror movies to distract me from true evil, and thats why monsters are not scary. the real monsters are people. horror movies bring us to our primal instincts, and in a way we get to experience the real human condition, because its in facing death that we truly live.

Horror films are still good, you just have to look harder for them. Some of the films I am about to list are not really scary, but they are still great horror films that any horror fan should watch.

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The Signal

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Stuck

The Strangers

Let The Right One In

Teeth

The Descent

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Horror films are still good, you just have to look harder for them. Some of the films I am about to list are not really scary, but they are still great horror films that any horror fan should watch.

Session 9

The Devil's Backbone

Eden Lake

High Tension

Inside

Frontiers

Kairo

Shutter

A tale of two sisters

Midnight Meat train

Rogue

The Signal

The Cottage

Stuck

The Strangers

Let The Right One In

Teeth

The Descent

The Others

A stir of echoes

6 films to keep you awake

Identity

Behind the mask: The rise of Leslie Vernon

Bubba Ho Tep

Slither

Feast

Cigarette Burns

Audition

28 days later

Film-Guy

[QUOTE="x_Martyr_x"] the only people who call horror movies "torture porn" are soccer moms and people who like watered down "safe" horror. super_mario_128

Reminds me of that bit in the film Hostel 2. That part made me think to myself, there must be two type of people in this world: Those who look at that as discuisting obscenity, and those who wanted to join in. I know which one I am :twisted:

I think Hostel 1 and 2 are indeed torture porn movies like you said. But what's wrong with a bit of torture porn from time to time? We gotta have some movies like that or we won't have anything to call torture porn! I believe in Russia there's a theatre act which is something like Hostel, it's been running for over a hundred years, don't make me dig it up. But anyway, I don't think every modern horror movie they make these days is torture porn.

Because stephen king doesn't put out many books nowadays

Reminds me of that bit in the film Hostel 2.Evil_Saluki

[QUOTE="x_Martyr_x"]

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]Most horror movies (if you want to call them that) are mainly torture porn. Most studios see the success from Saw and Hostel and realize that this is what the public wants. It really is sad. sammyjenkis898

the only people who call horror movies "torture porn" are soccer moms and people who like watered down "safe" horror. horror movies aren't supposed to hold your hand while you watch them, they are meant to disgust and to frighten you. as wes craven puts it, "its not art until you have offended someone." i dont want horror movies to distract me from true evil, and thats why monsters are not scary. the real monsters are people. horror movies bring us to our primal instincts, and in a way we get to experience the real human condition, because its in facing death that we truly live.

im sorry that you did not understand the film. but since you seem to think that it takes no talent to make it, im eagerly awaiting your own horror movie which will be better.

Horror films are still good, you just have to look harder for them. Some of the films I am about to list are not really scary, but they are still great horror films that any horror fan should watch.

Session 9

The Devil's Backbone

Eden Lake

High Tension

Inside

Frontiers

Kairo

Shutter

A tale of two sisters

Midnight Meat train

Rogue

The Signal

The Cottage

Stuck

The Strangers

Let The Right One In

Teeth

The Descent

The Others

A stir of echoes

6 films to keep you awake

Identity

Behind the mask: The rise of Leslie Vernon

Bubba Ho Tep

Slither

Feast

Cigarette Burns

Audition

28 days later

Film-Guy

Horror films are still good, you just have to look harder for them. Some of the films I am about to list are not really scary, but they are still great horror films that any horror fan should watch.

Session 9

The Devil's Backbone

Eden Lake

High Tension

Inside

Frontiers

Kairo

Shutter

A tale of two sisters

Midnight Meat train

Rogue

The Signal

The Cottage

Stuck

The Strangers

Let The Right One In

Teeth

The Descent

The Others

A stir of echoes

6 films to keep you awake

Identity

Behind the mask: The rise of Leslie Vernon

Bubba Ho Tep

Slither

Feast

Cigarette Burns

Audition

28 days later

High Tension

Film-Guy

Horror films are still good, you just have to look harder for them. Some of the films I am about to list are not really scary, but they are still great horror films that any horror fan should watch.

Session 9

The Devil's Backbone

Eden Lake

High Tension

Inside

Frontiers

Kairo

Shutter

A tale of two sisters

Midnight Meat train

Rogue

The Signal

The Cottage

Stuck

The Strangers

Let The Right One In

Teeth

The Descent

The Others

A stir of echoes

6 films to keep you awake

Identity

Behind the mask: The rise of Leslie Vernon

Bubba Ho Tep

Slither

Feast

Cigarette Burns

Audition

28 days later

Film-Guy

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/12/26/arts/horror.php

Think this will help make horror movies scary again?

Gore movies CAN be "horrifying". Movies that combine good character development with insane gore effects tend to be awesome.jointed

im sorry that you did not understand the film. but since you seem to think that it takes no talent to make it, im eagerly awaiting your own horror movie which will be better.

x_Martyr_x

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"][QUOTE="x_Martyr_x"]

the only people who call horror movies "torture porn" are soccer moms and people who like watered down "safe" horror. horror movies aren't supposed to hold your hand while you watch them, they are meant to disgust and to frighten you. as wes craven puts it, "its not art until you have offended someone." i dont want horror movies to distract me from true evil, and thats why monsters are not scary. the real monsters are people. horror movies bring us to our primal instincts, and in a way we get to experience the real human condition, because its in facing death that we truly live.

x_Martyr_x

im sorry that you did not understand the film. but since you seem to think that it takes no talent to make it, im eagerly awaiting your own horror movie which will be better.

[QUOTE="jointed"]Gore movies CAN be "horrifying". Movies that combine good character development with insane gore effects tend to be awesome.super_mario_128

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="jointed"]Gore movies CAN be "horrifying". Movies that combine good character development with insane gore effects tend to be awesome.jointed

The reasons are simple:

1. You can see the monsters.

Take "The Thing" (the original black-and-white film, not Carpenter's remake): that movie was super-creepy... until the last 5 minutes, when you see what has caused all the damage. "Oh... is that all..."

The remake, however, keeps you guessing. You can't see the monster... it could be anybody. Even when the mutant is "outed," it has a different form every time... but it's still not the "real" monster.

Watch any horror by John Carpenter: he doesn't really show the monster that often, only glimpses (even in "Halloween," you only see the Shape, not what's driving it).

2. Sequelitis.

As soon as I see a "2," "3," etc. on a film title, I know what to expect: the same things as 1, only multiplied. The body count for "Halloween" was 4; the body count was several times that number in "Halloween 2," and the deaths a lot bloodier... but was it really any better?

3. Remake-itis

Other than Rob Zombie's "Halloween" (which I felt was amazing), I have yet to see a remake of an older horror movie that comes close to recapturing the scares of the original. "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" was paranoia-inducing; the remake with Donald Sutherland was just gross... and not at all scary (unless you're 9, when I first saw it).

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"] Seeing those two together in a movie is as rare as finding a bad Kubrick movie. >_>super_mario_128

I think it is because we live in a more cynical age where we can judge films harshly. That and Hollywood just churns out bad film after bad film where most of the actors have a much more appealing body then actual acting abilities.

The 'Slasher' genre pretty much killed any sense of horror from films anyway, the same idea is used over and over with the masked madman going on a killing spree of sexually driven teens is the same horror film I have seen many times before. The short lived love of the Japanese Horror films was good at the time but again has sadly fallen through the cracks of "lets milk this for all its worth" and now we see more films of the pale, scary, wide eyed woman that crawls after you in a strangely freaky way.

Occasionally you find gem of a horror film but that is a in a rare circumstance where the director actually WANTS to make a decent horror flick and not one that is just trashy.

1. more focus on gore porn

2. not enough focus on story and characters

3. moar sex!

4. the unneeded over use of cgi, we need more guys like stan winston, tom savini and rick baker TRUE artist of their craft

but you can still find some goodies, you have to try forigne and independent

[QUOTE="musicaz70"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"] Oh God, what an awesome movie. I was terrified by it, but at times I tried to nullify the horror by screaming at the heroines, "Yeh, you beat that bastard! ... You go girl!" Which made me less scaid. D:super_mario_128

[QUOTE="x_Martyr_x"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"] I have no idea how anyone can consider Hostel a horror movie. It's nothing but gore. There is no substance. It doesn't really take any talent to make a film like that. sammyjenkis898

im sorry that you did not understand the film. but since you seem to think that it takes no talent to make it, im eagerly awaiting your own horror movie which will be better.

if you think that Hostel was "nothing but gore", apparently a whole lot.

[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

Horror films are still good, you just have to look harder for them. Some of the films I am about to list are not really scary, but they are still great horror films that any horror fan should watch.

Session 9

The Devil's Backbone

Eden Lake

High Tension

Inside

Frontiers

Kairo

Shutter

A tale of two sisters

Midnight Meat train

Rogue

The Signal

The Cottage

Stuck

The Strangers

Let The Right One In

Teeth

The Descent

The Others

A stir of echoes

6 films to keep you awake

Identity

Behind the mask: The rise of Leslie Vernon

Bubba Ho Tep

Slither

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28 days later

clembo1990

To be honest I would not really call Let the right one in a horror film, there are some creepy parts and it is about vampires. But it is more of a romance story really, but not in a crappy Twilight way.

[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

Horror films are still good, you just have to look harder for them. Some of the films I am about to list are not really scary, but they are still great horror films that any horror fan should watch.

Session 9

The Devil's Backbone

Eden Lake

High Tension

Inside

Frontiers

Kairo

Shutter

A tale of two sisters

Midnight Meat train

Rogue

The Signal

The Cottage

Stuck

The Strangers

Let The Right One In

Teeth

The Descent

The Others

A stir of echoes

6 films to keep you awake

Identity

Behind the mask: The rise of Leslie Vernon

Bubba Ho Tep

Slither

Feast

Cigarette Burns

Audition

28 days later

Film-Guy

To be honest I would not really call Let the right one in a horror film, there are some creepy parts and it is about vampires. But it is more of a romance story really, but not in a crappy Twilight way.

To be honest I would not really call Let the right one in a horror film, there are some creepy parts and it is about vampires. But it is more of a romance story really, but not in a crappy Twilight way.

I guess you are right, but it doesn't exactly focus on the horror element. Its more about the relationship between the two kids, heck the horror parts are not even that scary. By definition though I think it still counts as horror.

Horror films are still good, you just have to look harder for them. Some of the films I am about to list are not really scary, but they are still great horror films that any horror fan should watch.

Session 9

The Devil's Backbone

Eden Lake

High Tension

Inside

Frontiers

Kairo

Shutter

A tale of two sisters

Midnight Meat train

Rogue

The Signal

The Cottage

Stuck

The Strangers

Let The Right One In

Teeth

The Descent

The Others

A stir of echoes

6 films to keep you awake

Identity

Behind the mask: The rise of Leslie Vernon

Bubba Ho Tep

Slither

Feast

Cigarette Burns

Audition

28 days later

Film-Guy

A lot of those I really want to see. I must say though that High Tension left me saying..."Holy crap...that was the dumbest thing I have ever seen!" and Shutter is complete garbage in my opinon.