its the big bang theory, not big bang law
so you have to put faith into it..Ze_ALEX
here's a fun fact: you know the law of conservation of mass? it turns out that at the subatomic scale there can be matter created, it just has to go away quickly.
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er no
there is, the law of gravity
big bang theory, not big bang law
law of gravity, not theory of gravityZe_ALEX
No, its a theory. Laws extend only to mathematics.
er no
there is, the law of gravity
big bang theory, not big bang law
law of gravity, not theory of gravityZe_ALEX
Gravity is described by both theory and law.
Modern physics describes gravitation using the general theory of relativity, but the much simpler Newton's law of universal gravitation provides an excellent approximation in most cases.
Source.
er noGeneral Relativity
there is, the law of gravity
big bang theory, not big bang law
law of gravity, not theory of gravityZe_ALEX
[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="Englando_IV"]Do you realize how stupid comments like that sound? You can say the same thing about anything.
"Oh!!! Well now I'm convinced!!!!! A magical being who no one has ever seen or been in contact with appeared and made stuff for no reason!!!!!!!! Just makes perfect sense."
MattUD1
read the Bible.
I have an experiment I wanna try out. This is just a spur of the moment thing. Let's just say that you believe in Elves and I don't. Prove to me that Elves exist.Prove they don't. See? The same argument can be used both ways. Except there is one difference.
"Perhaps believing in God makes God exsist"
-The Wise one (Of the Otters).
Prove they don't. See? The same argument can be used both ways. Except there is one difference.
"Perhaps believing in God makes God exsist"
-The Wise one (Of the Otters).
harashawn
but belief requires faith, and evidence denies faith. and since there's been clear evidence of God's existance, therefore he doesn't exist. QED.
[QUOTE="Ze_ALEX"]er no
there is, the law of gravity
big bang theory, not big bang law
law of gravity, not theory of gravityGenetic_Code
Gravity is described by both theory and law.
Modern physics describes gravitation using the general theory of relativity, but the much simpler Newton's law of universal gravitation provides an excellent approximation in most cases.
Source.
[QUOTE="kurtoronie"]Do you know of any car that didn't have a maker?
___ YES___ NO
No, but then again, I have not head of an all powerful car maker that makes a car then forever hides himself self from all of humanity. harashawn
God does not hide from you, you simply refuse to see him.
[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="Englando_IV"]Do you realize how stupid comments like that sound? You can say the same thing about anything.
"Oh!!! Well now I'm convinced!!!!! A magical being who no one has ever seen or been in contact with appeared and made stuff for no reason!!!!!!!! Just makes perfect sense."
harashawn
read the Bible.
I have an experiment I wanna try out. This is just a spur of the moment thing. Let's just say that you believe in Elves and I don't. Prove to me that Elves exist.Prove they don't. See? The same argument can be used both ways. Except there is one difference.
"Perhaps believing in God makes God exsist"
-The Wise one (Of the Otters).
So what you're saying is that God is imaginary? I thought you believed in God. Is there something I'm missing?
[QUOTE="kurtoronie"]Do you know of any car that didn't have a maker?
___ YES___ NO
No, but then again, I have not head of an all powerful car maker that makes a car then forever hides himself self from all of humanity. harashawn
God does not hide from you, you simply refuse to see him.
I don't refuse to see him yet I don't see him still.
[QUOTE="harashawn"]Come on. You people can't honestly look at the complexity of every living thing, and how it fits perfectly within it's environment perforing it's specific tasks and say "no one designed this."Bulldog19892Yes actually, I can. Such a perfect world is too perfect for some 'one' to have made it. And it's certainly not God. God's powers are limited by the imagination of the human mind.
One of the smartest things I have heard in this thread; I tip my cap to yee
[QUOTE="Ze_ALEX"]er noSo because we don't know how or why something happens it's automatically wrong? Do I smell irony?
there is, the law of gravity
big bang theory, not big bang law
law of gravity, not theory of gravityMattUD1
[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="kurtoronie"]Do you know of any car that didn't have a maker?
___ YES___ NO
No, but then again, I have not head of an all powerful car maker that makes a car then forever hides himself self from all of humanity. GodLovesDead
God does not hide from you, you simply refuse to see him.
I don't refuse to see him yet I don't see him still.
God is not a being you can physically see but if you believe, you can "see" him. Know what I mean?
COKE SECTION
it messes up at the coke can as i t is perfectly possible that one could apear as an object after the big bang just by chance but the chance is really low
BANANA SECTION
As you can see some are an everlutionary advantage whilst other's could easily be coinsidence
THE ORANGES
I guess this is supposed to be about atoms and how they arrange themselves, it completely ignores charges which are what make atoms incorrect. A fruit way of saying it would be you have10 apples and 10 oranges, no apple may be next to another apple, how many possible combinations are there?
THE TESTS
TEST ONE
The person who thinks the Coca Cola can had no designer is:
___ A. Intelligent
___ B. A fool
___ C. Has an ulterior motive for denying the obvious
There is a chance it had no designer, a very small one but there is still a chance
TEST TWO
A. Do you know of any building that didn't have a builder?
___ YES___ NO
B. Do you know of any painting that didn't have a painter?
___ YES___ NO
C. Do you know of any car that didn't have a maker?
___ YES___ NO
These by definiton have to be no as a building has to be built, a painting has to be painted and it wouldn't be called a car if it had no maker, all of these would be seen as natural wonders instead and if you think about it the only difference between a basic stone buiilt house and a cave is one has been built the other was formed.
TEST THREE
A. From the atom to the universe, is there order?
___ YES___ NO
B. Did it happen by accident?
___ YES___ NO
C. Or, must there have been an intelligent mind?
___ YES___ NO
D. What are the chances of 50 oranges falling by chance
into ten rows of five oranges?
All of these questions seem to have double meanings, order could mean it happened by coincedence as they had too be like that like saying which way dual polarity magnets will face, no one made them attract that's just what happens, accident still seems to infer that some being did it and ignores the fact that it could be a series of events like the big bangs followed by big crushes this would mean you'ld answer no for both B and C. D ignores atomic nature completely, not all atoms will fit together.
TEST FOUR
It completely ignores the fact that you must prove something is before someone has to proof that it isn't
TEST FIVE
The man who sees a building and doesn't know if there was a builder is:
a building needs a builder by definition otherwise it's just an intresting grographical feature.
SUMMERY
The artical ignores evolution and atomic nature. It also ignores that ifa geographical feature was formed that looked just like your house it would not be a building as it had not been built even though it looked exactly the same it would still just be an intresting geographical feature.
[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="kurtoronie"]Do you know of any car that didn't have a maker?
___ YES___ NO
No, but then again, I have not head of an all powerful car maker that makes a car then forever hides himself self from all of humanity. harashawn
God does not hide from you, you simply refuse to see him.
I don't refuse to see him yet I don't see him still.
God is not a being you can physically see but if you believe, you can "see" him. Know what I mean?
I can see a lot of things by believing. I have been able to do that since I was a baby. Its called an imagination.
[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="kurtoronie"]Do you know of any car that didn't have a maker?
___ YES___ NO
No, but then again, I have not head of an all powerful car maker that makes a car then forever hides himself self from all of humanity. harashawn
God does not hide from you, you simply refuse to see him.
I don't refuse to see him yet I don't see him still.
God is not a being you can physically see but if you believe, you can "see" him. Know what I mean?
so you mean by that "see" that things that around events that happened by chance there was actuallly god medling
You clearly have no idea what a theory is in the scientific sense. You can't just come up with an explanation and call it a theory. You need mountainous piles of evidence.
qetuo6
[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="kurtoronie"]Do you know of any car that didn't have a maker?
___ YES___ NO
No, but then again, I have not head of an all powerful car maker that makes a car then forever hides himself self from all of humanity. harashawn
God does not hide from you, you simply refuse to see him.
I don't refuse to see him yet I don't see him still.
God is not a being you can physically see but if you believe, you can "see" him. Know what I mean?
I don't, maybe you should introduce me to your drug dealer.
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]I can see how this might be a stab at atheists even though it's full of suppositions, but what the heck does this have to do with agnostics? You know we may believe in god right?Hewkii
no, you also don't believe. if you did, you'd be theistic.
They claim no knowledge of a god, do they not?
I'd say its a regular amount of sex that's missing, but Ill keep that in mind as well.I just have a question for all you athiests:
Do you ever feel incomplete, as if something is missing in your life? If so, It just might be the absence of God in your life.
harashawn
I can see how this might be a stab at atheists even though it's full of suppositions, but what the heck does this have to do with agnostics? You know we may believe in god right?Vaasman
agnostics don't believe in god untill suignificant proof is profided
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]I can see how this might be a stab at atheists even though it's full of suppositions, but what the heck does this have to do with agnostics? You know we may believe in god right?Hewkii
no, you also don't believe. if you did, you'd be theistic.
There are what are known as "agnostic theists".
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]I can see how this might be a stab at atheists even though it's full of suppositions, but what the heck does this have to do with agnostics? You know we may believe in god right?markop2003
agnostics don't believe in god untill suignificant proof is profided
Erm, no. If you don't believe in god, you're an atheist. Period. Lacking proof or otherwise. Most atheist don't believe in god simply for that reason, lack of proof. An agnostic is one who says "We can't know if god is real".[QUOTE="Vaasman"]I can see how this might be a stab at atheists even though it's full of suppositions, but what the heck does this have to do with agnostics? You know we may believe in god right?Hewkii
no, you also don't believe. if you did, you'd be theistic.
hmm true. Agnosticism is the belief that the idea of a god is inherently unknowable. Maybe a better way of saying it is we believe there might be a god, but we will never truly know. This article isn't really aimed at agnostics anyway.[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]I can see how this might be a stab at atheists even though it's full of suppositions, but what the heck does this have to do with agnostics? You know we may believe in god right?MrGeezer
no, you also don't believe. if you did, you'd be theistic.
There are what are known as "agnostic theists".
There is everything and anything out there, but please, lets try to focus on common sense and logic...
Finally a well thought out attack on atheism *applauds TC* Here's some other stuff that will have the atheists wetting their pants.
Evolution is so obviously wrong thereby making the only possible alternative, intelligent design, true.
Abiogenesis is also ridiculous.
This will keep the atheists thinking
And for the final blow read this.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]I can see how this might be a stab at atheists even though it's full of suppositions, but what the heck does this have to do with agnostics? You know we may believe in god right?CRM_MOD
no, you also don't believe. if you did, you'd be theistic.
There are what are known as "agnostic theists".
There is everything and anything out there, but please, lets try to focus on common sense and logic...
If you actually knew what agnosticism and theism were, I doubt you'd see any conflict between agnosticism and theism.
Finally a well thought out attack on atheism *applauds TC* Here's some other stuff that will have the atheists wetting their pants.
Evolution is so obviously wrong thereby making the only possible alternative, intelligent design, true.
Abiogenesis is also ridiculous.
This will keep the atheists thinking
And for the final blow read this.
Godly_Warrior
I stopped reading when you said "Finally a well thought out attack on atheism".
Atheism is only wrong if you can prove the existence of God/the gods. Can you/they do so?
No? I thought not. Let atheists be atheists and theists be theists and the world will be peaceful.
Holy crap please don't tell me you actually believe the bs in those much less stomach it. The 3rd one isn't even real it's just a story to build faith.Finally a well thought out attack on atheism *applauds TC* Here's some other stuff that will have the atheists wetting their pants.
Evolution is so obviously wrong thereby making the only possible alternative, intelligent design, true.
Abiogenesis is also ridiculous.
This will keep the atheists thinking
And for the final blow read this.
Godly_Warrior
You do realise that there is a thing called prophecies, were the bible will state something, then later it happens. How is it that someone knew this would happen before it happened? Like the prophecy of constantine, 9/11 was predicted by nostradamus somehow. Which to be honest at the time I really dont like how I feel I have no control what happens, but actually it happens because god already knows it is going to happen.
A lot of athiest think it is just some cult, which makes no since because you do not need money to be a christian. The only thing christianity does is make you strive to be better whenever you can. To be an athiest, you have to either A) hate the concept of god, B) think you know it all, C) in denial. The first step in recovery is admittance. Fast is athiest are super self righteous to the core.
Also athiest think they are so smart because they might admit that they just dont know, dont care, while in the meanwhile believing in theories like evolution to be facts, which cant be proven. Because no one was around 6.stupid billion years ago to say I was here, therefore it is just...... A COMPLETE FANTASY created by limited minds striving to understand everything themselves, which they should realize that the concept of god is simple, and if you read the bible there is so many facts in there. I mean I dont know why poeple thought the world was flat when the bible said it was round....
Ok your sayying that we should just keep the truth to ourselves, and just hate athiest (sometimes I rather do this). But that would be unchristian, and unloving. No one would be chrisitan if those people back in the day didnt die for the truth. The problem is athiest love the darkness, hate the light. Athiest need to realize that satan owns them, they dont believe because the darkness blinds them from the truth.
SegaGenesisfan
for one i hope that was sarcasm....and the same people who followed the bible insisted that the sun revolved around us...and put anyone to death who said otherwise. If you had any idea the definition of theory then you wouldnt bash evolution. it canabe proven. what cant 100% be proven is creation of life through evolution. but the theory most refer to is Darwins theory of evolution through natural selection. which CAN be proven and shown.
[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="Englando_IV"]Do you realize how stupid comments like that sound? You can say the same thing about anything.
"Oh!!! Well now I'm convinced!!!!! A magical being who no one has ever seen or been in contact with appeared and made stuff for no reason!!!!!!!! Just makes perfect sense."
MattUD1
read the Bible.
I have an experiment I wanna try out. This is just a spur of the moment thing. Let's just say that you believe in Elves and I don't. Prove to me that Elves exist.Please Log In to post.
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