Why atheism is wrong.

Well what if we were created by aliens. Should they be classified as a God, sounds more like our creators and nothing more. What I'm getting at is that we shouldn't (generally) consider one side of an argument false as there can always be some form of truth that we can extract out of it. kayn83

There's a good reason to not believe in yer b/s g0d :lol:

P.S. I hope you don't go to Heaven 8)

[QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"]How is god remotely irrational, he is perfect. :roll: Your self rightousness is quite offending to be honest. The whole point of the bible is to save you from stupid religions, and irrational thoughts. Actually the whole point of jesus is to get rid of religion, religion is evil, the whole point is christ himself. The bible is a very rational book, surpasses any other book in logic, it is perfect in all ways. It has no errors whatsoever, the King James version is the only book with the written words of god. foxhound_fox

I also missed the part where a talking snake and a talking bush were both rational :?

[QUOTE="kayn83"]Well what if we were created by aliens. Should they be classified as a God, sounds more like our creators and nothing more. What I'm getting at is that we shouldn't (generally) consider one side of an argument false as there can always be some form of truth that we can extract out of it. foxhound_fox

Yes but what is "true" doesn't need to automatically negate the opposing view. Example, some people believe God created evolution (as some people believe evolution is some how supposed to negate intelligent design) and also people who are compatibilists in which they see free will and determinism as both plausible.

The thing with God is there are many possibilites.

He could exist, he could not exist, he could have existed at one pont or even he could exist but he had no part in our creation at all.

To say he either exists or does not seems to be just simplifying the debate does it not?

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="kayn83"]Well what if we were created by aliens. Should they be classified as a God, sounds more like our creators and nothing more. What I'm getting at is that we shouldn't (generally) consider one side of an argument false as there can always be some form of truth that we can extract out of it. kayn83

Yes but what is "true" doesn't need to automatically negate the opposing view. Example, some people believe God created evolution (as some people believe evolution is some how supposed to negate intelligent design) and also people who are compatibilists in which they see free will and determinism as both plausible.

The thing with God is there are many possibilites.

He could exist, he could not exist, he could have existed at one pont or even he could exist but he had no part in our creation at all.

To say he either exists or does not seems to be just simplifying the debate does it not?

Just a somewhat off topic question, how could that work, god creating evolution? The whole point of evolution is that it's determined by the environment, competition, etc. Not by guiding hands... If there's anyone that thinks so, could they explain?

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="kayn83"]Well what if we were created by aliens. Should they be classified as a God, sounds more like our creators and nothing more. What I'm getting at is that we shouldn't (generally) consider one side of an argument false as there can always be some form of truth that we can extract out of it. MindFreeze

Yes but what is "true" doesn't need to automatically negate the opposing view. Example, some people believe God created evolution (as some people believe evolution is some how supposed to negate intelligent design) and also people who are compatibilists in which they see free will and determinism as both plausible.

The thing with God is there are many possibilites.

He could exist, he could not exist, he could have existed at one pont or even he could exist but he had no part in our creation at all.

To say he either exists or does not seems to be just simplifying the debate does it not?

Just a somewhat off topic question, how could that work, god creating evolution? The whole point of evolution is that it's determined by the environment, competition, etc. Not by guiding hands... If there's anyone that thinks so, could they explain?

Well I don't think I've done the requisite information to defend that per say but the logic is that God created the pieces that enabled evolution to occur. I find it a bit strange but it might also explain phenomena that seem to complex to be explained by scientific means.

Just a somewhat off topic question, how could that work, god creating evolution? The whole point of evolution is that it's determined by the environment, competition, etc. Not by guiding hands... If there's anyone that thinks so, could they explain?MindFreeze

I'm don't follow this belief but I'm actually glad that theistic evolution is being introduced into this.

It's simple. God could have created the sequence of life by creating the ways in which it is determined by the environment and competition.

I personally like theistic belief even if I don't accept it. If so many theists didn't stand by young earth creationism, I wouldn't have as much reason to attack theism.

Just a somewhat off topic question, how could that work, god creating evolution? The whole point of evolution is that it's determined by the environment, competition, etc. Not by guiding hands... If there's anyone that thinks so, could they explain? MindFreeze

[QUOTE="MindFreeze"]Just a somewhat off topic question, how could that work, god creating evolution? The whole point of evolution is that it's determined by the environment, competition, etc. Not by guiding hands... If there's anyone that thinks so, could they explain?Genetic_Code

I'm don't follow this belief but I'm actually glad that theistic evolution is being introduced into this.

It's simple. God could have created the sequence of life by creating the ways in which it is determined by the environment and competition.

I personally like theistic belief even if I don't accept it. If some many theists didn't stand by young earth creationism, I wouldn't have as much reason to attack theism.

The thing is I just don't believe in creationism especially when we have fossil evidence to suggest evolution occured. I can still say a God of some sort being plausible but I just can't see him magically creating everything then again, does it make sense for him creating evolution either.

The thing is I just don't believe in creationism especially when we have fossil evidence to suggest evolution occured. I can still say a God of some sort being plausible but I just can't see him magically creating everything then again, does it make sense for him creating evolution either.kayn83

If I were to believe in a god, I'd think he wouldn't just magically create it but he would plan it in advance and use evolution to experiment with his design to how it is today. If that makes sense.

This topic is full of imagination

This topic is full of imagination

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Kuhu

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This topic is full of imagination

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foxhound_fox

that it was haha

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="harashawn"]

And how did it get there?

harashawn

Oh!! Well now I'm convinced!!!!! This magical ball of everything appeared and exploded!!!!!!!!! Just makes perfect sense.

Yeah, a magical super-man that got bored one day and decided to create everything makes so much more sense.

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="harashawn"]

And how did it get there?

TyrantDragon55

Oh!! Well now I'm convinced!!!!! This magical ball of everything appeared and exploded!!!!!!!!! Just makes perfect sense.

Yeah, a magical super-man that got bored one day and decided to create everything makes so much more sense.

refer to my imagination pic

hurr durr bungie93

Whoa now.

Deists are the only right ones since any other theory on the Universe's creation is just as silly.Hewkii

I completely agree :) More people should know about Deism. Any people who are agnostic, please wiki it :P

[QUOTE="Ze_ALEX"]i smell epic thread
HERE ILL GET IT STARTED

athiests, IF THEY ARE WRONG THEY GO TO HELL

christians, IF THEY ARE WRONG, NOTHING HAPPENSfkholmes

No that's incorrect. What if it turns out there is a God, who doesn't want to be worshipped and so punishes Christians while reward Atheists.

Or what if he's actually Zeuss, or perhaps Odin?

[QUOTE="fkholmes"]

[QUOTE="Ze_ALEX"]i smell epic thread
HERE ILL GET IT STARTED

athiests, IF THEY ARE WRONG THEY GO TO HELL

christians, IF THEY ARE WRONG, NOTHING HAPPENSTylendal

No that's incorrect. What if it turns out there is a God, who doesn't want to be worshipped and so punishes Christians while reward Atheists.

Or what if he's actually Zeuss, or perhaps Odin?

Odin has the best beard, and I think he's a pretty cool guy. Maybe He created bananas?

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="fkholmes"]

[QUOTE="Ze_ALEX"]i smell epic thread
HERE ILL GET IT STARTED

athiests, IF THEY ARE WRONG THEY GO TO HELL

christians, IF THEY ARE WRONG, NOTHING HAPPENSSpidersRMe

No that's incorrect. What if it turns out there is a God, who doesn't want to be worshipped and so punishes Christians while reward Atheists.

Or what if he's actually Zeuss, or perhaps Odin?

Odin has the best beard, and I think he's a pretty cool guy. Maybe He created bananas?

[QUOTE="SpidersRMe"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="fkholmes"]

[QUOTE="Ze_ALEX"]i smell epic thread
HERE ILL GET IT STARTED

athiests, IF THEY ARE WRONG THEY GO TO HELL

christians, IF THEY ARE WRONG, NOTHING HAPPENSfunnymario

No that's incorrect. What if it turns out there is a God, who doesn't want to be worshipped and so punishes Christians while reward Atheists.

Or what if he's actually Zeuss, or perhaps Odin?

Odin has the best beard, and I think he's a pretty cool guy. Maybe He created bananas?

Clearly it was designed by Odin!

Then it's confirmed! Odin created the banana! Lets call Raptor Jebus and tell him he sucks, shall we?NaiKoN9293

The key to converting non-believers is to make your god so cool, he's unbelievable.

Come on. You people can't honestly look at the complexity of every living thing, and how it fits perfectly within it's environment perforing it's specific tasks and say "no one designed this."harashawn

It didn't just suddenly appear like this... The world we live in today is the result of millions of years of change and evolution.

Fact vs opinion christians will win.hitomi317

[QUOTE="hitomi317"]Fact vs opinion christians will win.zakkro

Saying atheism is wrong is an absolute statement. An absolute statement is fact. Ergo, if you state something as fact, it must be supported by facts. God's existence is not fact. It is not absolute. It is a possibility, nothing more, and nothing less. So, atheism isn't wrong.eo12601

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I'm an Atheist. However I don't try and make everybody else think the way I do. I'm happy to let people who believe in God continue to do so. I think you should adopt the same philosophy, and stop this rather poor attempt at trolling.

And that article didn't manage to convince me that Atheism is wrong in the slightest.

[QUOTE="scorch-62"]Since one side of the argument is "God exists" and the other is "God doesn't exist," someone is going to be right and someone is going to be wrong (assuming proof does exist).foxhound_fox