Why do people continue to insist that 9/11 was staged?

The twin towers were controlled explosions. They had an inside job of some sort because there was explosions inside of them. There is enough evidence to support this:

It fell as fast as free fall through the path of most resistence
They were built to take plane hits OF MORE WEIGHT
The central column should have stayed
Plooms of smoke can be seen exiting floors before they are even hit by the floor above
People came out of the basement looking like they had been on the floors hit by the planes, i.E bombs blew off the foundations
The fire was not strong enough to melt foundations because the sign of that color smoke means the fire is being starved of oxygen and cannot burn hot enough

Basicaly, what the goverment TOLD us happened is a complete pile of crap.

The reason we want to be asking ourselfs is why. I myself have no idea, I'm just showing the facts of what actualy happened when the things went down. For all we know it could have been by terrorists but they just had an inside man in the tower.

The twin towers were controlled explosions. They had an inside job of some sort because there was explosions inside of them. There is enough evidence to support this:

It fell as fast as free fall through the path of most resistence
They were built to take plane hits OF MORE WEIGHT
The central column should have stayed
Plooms of smoke can be seen exiting floors before they are even hit by the floor above
People came out of the basement looking like they had been on the floors hit by the planes, i.E bombs blew off the foundations
The fire was not strong enough to melt foundations because the sign of that color smoke means the fire is being starved of oxygen and cannot burn hot enough

Basicaly, what the goverment TOLD us happened is a complete pile of crap.

The reason we want to be asking ourselfs is why. I myself have no idea, I'm just showing the facts of what actualy happened when the things went down. For all we know it could have been by terrorists but they just had an inside man in the tower.

death1505921

Do you have any idea how many men would be needed to set up those explosives? How loud they would be in setting them up? Where they would have to be set up? Don't you think one or two of those 2,000 workers would have gone "Gee, I wonder why they're setting up bombs in the wall next to my cubicle?"

The twin towers were controlled explosions. They had an inside job of some sort because there was explosions inside of them. There is enough evidence to support this:

It fell as fast as free fall through the path of most resistence
They were built to take plane hits OF MORE WEIGHT
The central column should have stayed
Plooms of smoke can be seen exiting floors before they are even hit by the floor above
People came out of the basement looking like they had been on the floors hit by the planes, i.E bombs blew off the foundations
The fire was not strong enough to melt foundations because the sign of that color smoke means the fire is being starved of oxygen and cannot burn hot enough

Basicaly, what the goverment TOLD us happened is a complete pile of crap.

The reason we want to be asking ourselfs is why. I myself have no idea, I'm just showing the facts of what actualy happened when the things went down. For all we know it could have been by terrorists but they just had an inside man in the tower.

death1505921

1. The plooms of smoke are from air escaping from the weakest point as the upper floors land on the floors below.

2. Have you seen an implosion? You can see a bunch of explosions and hear them seconds before the thing collapses. None of that with 9/11.

3. The fire might not have been strong enough to melt the foundations.. but all that is needed is for them to be weakened for the building to collapse.. they don't have to melt into a puddle.

The only reason you have these "facts" is because some guy posted that propoganda somewhere, and you choose to believe it with no real evidence.

Because it was staged.MissRiotmaker

And the evidence you have to support your claim is...?

I wouldn't put it past the American government to do something like that. Sorry.Scarebaby

.Dracargen

thats actually a very good summary, minus the "lets make ourselves look incompetent".

Have any of you ever seen an implosion? You hear loud explosions several seconds before the building collapses. You even see the explosions light up all up and down the building. You see none of this on 9/11. The thing just fell.The_Mac_Daddy

Thats because when buildings are demolished, they are always gutted before hand. Drywall, chairs, desks, windows...everything but the structure itself. That is why you can see the numerous small explosions.

You cant see those happen on any WTC videos because all those visual obstructions were still there to block your view.

[QUOTE="death1505921"]

The twin towers were controlled explosions. They had an inside job of some sort because there was explosions inside of them. There is enough evidence to support this:

It fell as fast as free fall through the path of most resistence
They were built to take plane hits OF MORE WEIGHT
The central column should have stayed
Plooms of smoke can be seen exiting floors before they are even hit by the floor above
People came out of the basement looking like they had been on the floors hit by the planes, i.E bombs blew off the foundations
The fire was not strong enough to melt foundations because the sign of that color smoke means the fire is being starved of oxygen and cannot burn hot enough

Basicaly, what the goverment TOLD us happened is a complete pile of crap.

The reason we want to be asking ourselfs is why. I myself have no idea, I'm just showing the facts of what actualy happened when the things went down. For all we know it could have been by terrorists but they just had an inside man in the tower.

Dracargen

Do you have any idea how many men would be needed to set up those explosives? How loud they would be in setting them up? Where they would have to be set up? Don't you think one or two of those 2,000 workers would have gone "Gee, I wonder why they're setting up bombs in the wall next to my cubicle?"

1. the bombs were planted during off hours. Someone working the mignight shift is not going to question a janitor going into a room to "clean" aka plant bombs

2. I am sure they heard explosions, but I think the fact that TWO HUGE AIRPLANES flew into their building clouded their memory. I am just saying they were distracted and problem assumed any noises were a result of the collisions.

[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]Because it was staged.Dutch_Mix

And the evidence you have to support your claim is...?

[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]

[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]Because it was staged.MissRiotmaker

And the evidence you have to support your claim is...?

It's not worth it. Sometimes you come across someone who doesn't reply in a condenscending manner that you actually have a decent discussion with, but for the most part they make fun and sarcastically call you an expert etc., quite lame really

[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]

[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]Because it was staged.Truth_Seekr

And the evidence you have to support your claim is...?

It's not worth it. Sometimes you come across someone who doesn't reply in a condenscending manner that you actually have a decent discussion with, but for the most part they make fun and sarcastically call you an expert etc., quite lame really

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]

[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]Because it was staged.MissRiotmaker

And the evidence you have to support your claim is...?

It's not worth it. Sometimes you come across someone who doesn't reply in a condenscending manner that you actually have a decent discussion with, but for the most part they make fun and sarcastically call you an expert etc., quite lame really

Not at all. I'm saying, most of the time it isn't worth trying to explain your proof/evidence because people wont event try to see your point of view.

Personally, I think people might as well search for the truth if they want to. It's fine if people are reviewing the actual facts of 9/11 and coming up with their own idea on what transpired. I don't agree however, with people blindly believing either A: the government story or B: the conspiracy theorists story.

[QUOTE="Scarebaby"]I wouldn't put it past the American government to do something like that. Sorry.The_Mac_Daddy

Do you know how many people would have to be in on something of that scale? Somebody would find it terrible and morally wrong and it would be found out. It's a democracy/republic whatever you want to call it; not a dictatorship.

Everyone here who believes 9/11 was stages has to, RIGHT NOW, admit to everyone here on OT that you therefore believe that George W. Bush is the smartest evil mastermind in world history, capable of bribing, killing, and organizing one of the largest conspiracies in the world to launch a full blown war in the middle east. Well, get to it!Tolwan

Everyone here who believes 9/11 was staged has to, RIGHT NOW, admit to everyone here on OT that you therefore believe that George W. Bush is the smartest evil mastermind in world history, capable of bribing, killing, and organizing one of the largest conspiracies in the world to launch a full blown war in the middle east. Well, get to it!Tolwan

Some believe that Bush is merely a puppet of the shadowy (and largely undefined) NWO.

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]Everyone here who believes 9/11 was staged has to, RIGHT NOW, admit to everyone here on OT that you therefore believe that George W. Bush is the smartest evil mastermind in world history, capable of bribing, killing, and organizing one of the largest conspiracies in the world to launch a full blown war in the middle east. Well, get to it!Rhazakna

Some believe that Bush is merely a puppet of the shadowy (and largely undefined) NWO.

Well now that's just grasping for straws...

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]Everyone here who believes 9/11 was staged has to, RIGHT NOW, admit to everyone here on OT that you therefore believe that George W. Bush is the smartest evil mastermind in world history, capable of bribing, killing, and organizing one of the largest conspiracies in the world to launch a full blown war in the middle east. Well, get to it!Tolwan

Some believe that Bush is merely a puppet of the shadowy (and largely undefined) NWO.

Well now that's just grasping for straws...

I would't say so. Metal Gear Solid 2 was a documentary, don't you know.

I believe that there was a lot more to it then just two planes hitting those buildings. I just have a hard time believeing that a plane hits the upper most part of a building, and then all of sudden a hour later 10 floors take out 90, not only does 10 floors take absolutely anihilate the building, but the whole building free falls to the ground acting as though there are no floors underneath one of another.xscrapzx

Do you even have enough knowledge on the subject? Enough to make an opinion? If not, I'd probably just go with the professionals.

Alot of you seem unducated on this subject. You have to fully understand the history of those in part of this event. You cannot simply understand this whole event after watching a movie or hearing the explanation from our government. I reccommend--to those who actual want the truth visit this link, which studies 9/11, 30 years in the making.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a0598saudibribe&scale=5#a0598saudibribe

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a0598saudibribe&scale=5#a0598saudibribe

knowledge-funk

From a website that lets anyone write and post any article they want. Sounds reliable.

[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a0598saudibribe&scale=5#a0598saudibribe

LukeAF24

From a website that lets anyone write and post any article they want. Sounds reliable.

LOL. Hold up, let me provide you with a cnn link.

Alot of you seem unducated on this subject. You have to fully understand the history of those in part of this event. You cannot simply understand this whole event after watching a movie or hearing the explanation from our government. I reccommend--to those who actual want the truth visit this link, which studies 9/11, 30 years in the making.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a0598saudibribe&scale=5#a0598saudibribe

knowledge-funk

Everybody listen to knowledge-funk. His other topics are quite the glowing testament to the true nature of his beliefs.Dracargen

I provided an idea, why would they annouce that it fell before it even fell? You provide me a pape response claiming it was an honest mistake by reporters.

Why should I believe you excuse? Would they even admit it if it were true? :s

But were on this topic. Why don't you follow the link if you wish to debate.

[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]

[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]Because it was staged.MissRiotmaker

And the evidence you have to support your claim is...?

I've seen you argue on these forums before, so I don't know why you've suddenly adopted the "I don't waste my time arguing on these forums" attitude.

And I wasn't the one who made the absurd and outlandish statement. You were, and as such, you'd better be prepared to back up your statements. ;)

[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]

[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]Because it was staged.Dutch_Mix

And the evidence you have to support your claim is...?

I've seen you argue on these forums before, so I don't know why you've suddenly adopted the "I don't waste my time arguing on these forums" attitude.

And I wasn't the one who made the absurd and outlandish statement. You were, and as such, you'd better be prepared to back up your statements. ;)

she just means that you brainwashed people are government puppets, believing everything you guys are told. Thats something to lol to for a couple of hours.

Do your own research and it'll jump in yo face

[QUOTE="cool_baller"][QUOTE="Samwel_X"]

Some people want to believe there was something more to a terrible event. That it couldn't be so simple as people out to cause damage to innocents.

That said, JFK totally was assassinated by the government.

Dracargen

No no no; The government paid the mafia to assasinate JFK.

[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]

[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]Because it was staged.DrCoCoPiMp

And the evidence you have to support your claim is...?

I've seen you argue on these forums before, so I don't know why you've suddenly adopted the "I don't waste my time arguing on these forums" attitude.

And I wasn't the one who made the absurd and outlandish statement. You were, and as such, you'd better be prepared to back up your statements. ;)

she just means that you brainwashed people are government puppets, believing everything you guys are told. Thats something to lol to for a couple of hours.

Do your own research and it'll jump in yo face

I've actually done quite a bit of research on the subject, and to be honest, it always amazes me how even in the face of overwhelming evidence, conspiracy theorists still cling to their nonsensical arguments...

[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="cool_baller"][QUOTE="Samwel_X"]

Some people want to believe there was something more to a terrible event. That it couldn't be so simple as people out to cause damage to innocents.

That said, JFK totally was assassinated by the government.

cool_baller

No no no; The government paid the mafia to assasinate JFK.

[QUOTE="DrCoCoPiMp"][QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]

[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]Because it was staged.Dutch_Mix

And the evidence you have to support your claim is...?

I've seen you argue on these forums before, so I don't know why you've suddenly adopted the "I don't waste my time arguing on these forums" attitude.

And I wasn't the one who made the absurd and outlandish statement. You were, and as such, you'd better be prepared to back up your statements. ;)

she just means that you brainwashed people are government puppets, believing everything you guys are told. Thats something to lol to for a couple of hours.

Do your own research and it'll jump in yo face

I've actually done quite a bit of research on the subject, and to be honest, it always amazes me how even in the face of overwhelming evidence, conspiracy theorists still cling to their nonsensical arguments...

You see I feel the same as you but with inversed opinion :cry:

anywayz the world ends in 2012 so only 4 yrs to worry :P

Youtube is NOT a respected investigative journalism site.

George Bush is NOT smart.

Missiles do NOT look like planes with windows and people inside.

The earth is NOT flat (has nothing to do with this, but I find it amazing that people actually believe the earth is flat)

I don't know about it being "staged", that sounds overly elaborate to me. But the white house was alerted to a possible threat of the attack before it happenned and didn't act. And the attack was carried out by a group we funded in the 80's. And after the attack Bin Laden spent about three years basically campaigning for Bush with those videos. I dunno, maybe he's just like all those girls on Youtube that developed a webcam addiction but I doubt it. I think if they had any intention of bombing us they would do it, they wouldn't talk **** in videos. darkmoney52

[QUOTE="darkmoney52"]I don't know about it being "staged", that sounds overly elaborate to me. But the white house was alerted to a possible threat of the attack before it happenned and didn't act. And the attack was carried out by a group we funded in the 80's. And after the attack Bin Laden spent about three years basically campaigning for Bush with those videos. I dunno, maybe he's just like all those girls on Youtube that developed a webcam addiction but I doubt it. I think if they had any intention of bombing us they would do it, they wouldn't talk **** in videos. whipassmt

Great, more positive Bush press from Bin Laden, that's assuring. And I've gone through the Canadian border(The one they used for the 9/11 attack), it wouldn't be a challenge. If they wanted to hit us again they could.

Because there are things that happened which don't make sense.. like pictures of the pentagon shortly after the "plane hit it".. yet where is the plain wreckage? The hole was a circular shape which would mean the wings were sheered off.. yet where are the wings? The pentagon is reinforced with steel plating.. yet a plane can penetrate through concrete reinforced with steel? The plane would crumple up.. its made of light material. A terrorist can fly a plane metres above a freeway and keep the plane steady, on course and not have anyone think its out of the ordinary.. and then hit the pentagon at that specific angle.. especially considering a well trained experience pilot couldn't do it.

A flash animation was released after 9/11 showing all the things that were "interesting".. like how a minute after it happened, nearby shops were raided and the tapes confiscated for cameras that captured what happened.. how is that possible that agents could arrive that fast? There are numerous things that make the argument debatable.

Because there are things that happened which don't make sense.. like pictures of the pentagon shortly after the "plane hit it".. yet where is the plain wreckage? The hole was a circular shape which would mean the wings were sheered off.. yet where are the wings? The pentagon is reinforced with steel plating.. yet a plane can penetrate through concrete reinforced with steel? The plane would crumple up.. its made of light material. A terrorist can fly a plane metres above a freeway and keep the plane steady, on course and not have anyone think its out of the ordinary.. and then hit the pentagon at that specific angle.. especially considering a well trained experience pilot couldn't do it.

A flash animation was released after 9/11 showing all the things that were "interesting".. like how a minute after it happened, nearby shops were raided and the tapes confiscated for cameras that captured what happened.. how is that possible that agents could arrive that fast? There are numerous things that make the argument debatable.

Rattlesnake_8

Hey I already went there with the whole confiscated thing and people just kept talking about what witnesses saw, even though a lot of the witnesses never had a clear cut view of what actually went wrong. A lot of different answers if you ask me when I watch the videos of witnesses actually stating what they saw.

To some of these people in this topic someones word is actually stronger than actually video evidence of what happened, that unfortunately for some odd reason was confiscated and never released to public, oh wait they did release one tape, one that clearly showed nothing but an explotion.

www.loosechangeguide.com/loosechangeguide.html

Check that out, unless you don't want your conspiracy theory shattered.

Cuz there's alot of "grey" in the govt's explanations. But as with my choice of wording, what makes "grey" grey is in the eye of the beholder. My one question is I never fully understood why the last WTC building fell when the worst that could've happend was some debris fell on it. And then it fell like a building imploding, but I don't bother myself worrying too much about these sort of things anyway.