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#1 gotdangit
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So I go to this small sushi place, but I don't like sushi so I brought some food from Costco. 4 of the people im with are ordering besides me. But there are 5 chairs so I can sit. So they all order, and they see my food, and she says sorry, no outside food allowed.

This I understand, they would rather you buy food from their place then go out and bring food in. I don't really think I would care if I owned the restaurant but whatever that makes a little sense.

Then I said ok, well I'm not going to eat it, I'll just put it away in my girlfriends purse. Then she says. No you cannot have outside food, even if you don't eat it. So fine whatever I'll take it out. It's starting to get more dumb, I can't even have outside food if I won't eat it and it's put away?! What the...

Then everyone takes their order, and she looks at me, and I say that's ok, I'm fine. Then she says. I'm sorry but you have to order if you want to stay in the restaurant. What the frick.... There are already 5 chairs at the table. 4 of my friends are ordering and going to eat, and I can't even just come in and just hang out or chat with my friends while they eat? I have to freakin order something?! It's not like some other random person will be taking that seat anyways.... What the heck is this rule. I've never been to a restaurant like this...

Why do places have this policy, I really hate this place now, it's so dumb that they wouldn't even let me stay even though the majority of people are ordering. I'm not doing anything by being there.... Anyways, my friend just ordered something cheap for me and he ate it. so I got to stay. But wow, what a stupid policy I think.

If I owned a restaurant, I wouldn't care if people brought food as long as it was small, even a drink, I don't care, as long as they didn't just come in and not get anything from my store. But not allowing people to stay if they don't buy anything? That's ridiculous. What if I wasn't ready to order, or didn't feel like it, but later I wanted something? huh. Lost business. Forget you stupid sushi place.

Why do places do this?! What do you think, is that fair?

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#2 almasdeathchild
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everything seemed legit till the you have to order to stay part....yea id be pretty annoyed myself

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#3 surrealnumber5
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outside food is a liability, forcing patronage to stay is internal policy.
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#4 ZumaJones07
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bringing your own food is the highest order of rudeness
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#5 XilePrincess
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I can understand no outside food and I could understand if nobody at your table was ordering anything and just wanted to hang out/you just came in alone and wouldn't order anything, but if I was in that situation I would just tell the waiter that I have a laundry list of food allergies and even just cross contamination can cause me to get violently ill. If all else failed, I'd ask to speak to a manager or the owner and tell them that. It might be a lie, but what can they really say to that. Ask for a beverage only and tell them you would like to stay with your friends and enjoy your evening together and not end up being taken out of there in an ambulance because anaphylaxis got you.
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#6 gotdangit
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outside food is a liability, forcing patronage to stay is internal policy.surrealnumber5
How?

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#7 gotdangit
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I can understand no outside food and I could understand if nobody at your table was ordering anything and just wanted to hang out/you just came in alone and wouldn't order anything, but if I was in that situation I would just tell the waiter that I have a laundry list of food allergies and even just cross contamination can cause me to get violently ill. If all else failed, I'd ask to speak to a manager or the owner and tell them that. It might be a lie, but what can they really say to that. Ask for a beverage only and tell them you would like to stay with your friends and enjoy your evening together and not end up being taken out of there in an ambulance because anaphylaxis got you.XilePrincess

I asked if I could order water haha.

She said I could get a drink, but I already had one from costco. But whatever, it was really annoying, especially that my friend had to orders something for me to stay, but I just ate my food outside and came back.

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#8 Eponique
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You should've just bought water or said you were going to share with your friends.

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#9 Fightingfan
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I would of just stay seated, and ordered. They wouldn't touch my food, and they'd still serve me if they wanted money.
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]outside food is a liability, forcing patronage to stay is internal policy.gotdangit

How?

resturants are liable for the food served in their establishment, outside food can make people sick in their establishment. i dont agree with it but it is how things are in the great sUeSA
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[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]I can understand no outside food and I could understand if nobody at your table was ordering anything and just wanted to hang out/you just came in alone and wouldn't order anything, but if I was in that situation I would just tell the waiter that I have a laundry list of food allergies and even just cross contamination can cause me to get violently ill. If all else failed, I'd ask to speak to a manager or the owner and tell them that. It might be a lie, but what can they really say to that. Ask for a beverage only and tell them you would like to stay with your friends and enjoy your evening together and not end up being taken out of there in an ambulance because anaphylaxis got you.gotdangit

I asked if I could order water haha.

She said I could get a drink, but I already had one from costco. But whatever, it was really annoying, especially that my friend had to orders something for me to stay, but I just ate my food outside and came back.

Of course your friend had to order something, you're taking a seat, and that seat doesn't belong to you, it's for customers. I can see their POV.
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#12 gotdangit
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[QUOTE="gotdangit"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]outside food is a liability, forcing patronage to stay is internal policy.surrealnumber5

How?

resturants are liable for the food served in their establishment, outside food can make people sick in their establishment. i dont agree with it but it is how things are in the great sUeSA

I understand how if I brought food in and choked or had an allergy I can try to sue them, but I don't understand how it could be their fault at all. I mean, I brought it in... And especially when I said I wan't even going to eat it...

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]outside food is a liability, forcing patronage to stay is internal policy.gotdangit

How?

It's the same as the law that if you have something, say, a 15 foot wide and deep hole, on your property and a stranger drives through your yard into that hole and gets injured from that hole because you didn't put signs up that said "WARNING, LARGE HOLE" or something, they can sue you, even if they're trespassing. It's negligent something something, from what I remember from my highschool law course. Everybody on the titanic who survived and the families of those who didn't technically could probably sue the company that made it for being negligent in providing enough lifeboats. If you have a hotdog at a sushi restaurant and eat like a turd and choke to death, they're liable because you died on THEIR property.
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#14 Shadowchronicle
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Everything gets annoying when they say "You have to order something to stay". Eggh.
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#15 Wasdie  Moderator
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Bringing your own food to a place to eat... how damn rude.

"Oh, your food is crap so I brought my own, I'm just sitting here making noise and taking up a seat at your dining establishment."

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#16 Eponique
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[QUOTE="gotdangit"]

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]I can understand no outside food and I could understand if nobody at your table was ordering anything and just wanted to hang out/you just came in alone and wouldn't order anything, but if I was in that situation I would just tell the waiter that I have a laundry list of food allergies and even just cross contamination can cause me to get violently ill. If all else failed, I'd ask to speak to a manager or the owner and tell them that. It might be a lie, but what can they really say to that. Ask for a beverage only and tell them you would like to stay with your friends and enjoy your evening together and not end up being taken out of there in an ambulance because anaphylaxis got you.Fightingfan

I asked if I could order water haha.

She said I could get a drink, but I already had one from costco. But whatever, it was really annoying, especially that my friend had to orders something for me to stay, but I just ate my food outside and came back.

Of course your friend had to order something, you're taking a seat, and that seat doesn't belong to you, it's for customers. I can see their POV.

I imagine if it were my group of friends we would have left the restaurant and they wouldn't see a single penny, as opposed to the 4/5 customers they would have got. I've been to restaurants where I didn't buy anything (especially in pizza restaurants, since I don't eat pizza) and it wasn't a huge deal.
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#17 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="gotdangit"] How?

gotdangit

resturants are liable for the food served in their establishment, outside food can make people sick in their establishment. i dont agree with it but it is how things are in the great sUeSA

I understand how if I brought food in and choked or had an allergy I can try to sue them, but I don't understand how it could be their fault at all. I mean, I brought it in... And especially when I said I wan't even going to eat it...

it is still a legal risk, what happens under their roof they are exposed to, it does not matter what you want or think, or how things 'should' be.
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if you're going to eat in a restaurant then eat their food, I don't see anything wrong with that, you could just eat your Costco food before going in and just get a Coke to sip while you BS with your friends on the other hand I've a double standard, movie theaters, since their food is ridiculously overpriced, I mean the candy they sell for $4 or $5 you can get at a grocery store for $1, and the theater soda is worth its weight in Red Bull, it doesn't go against my conscience to sneak food and drink into a theater, not like the movie industry is suffering any, they play more ads these days and their tickets and concessions have gone up so much in price over the years, and they still pay their employees minimum wage
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#19 gotdangit
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Bringing your own food to a place to eat... how damn rude.

"Oh, your food is crap so I brought my own, I'm just sitting here making noise and taking up a seat at your dining establishment."

Wasdie

Totally what I said and was trying to do.

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#20 gotdangit
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[QUOTE="gotdangit"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]outside food is a liability, forcing patronage to stay is internal policy.XilePrincess

How?

It's the same as the law that if you have something, say, a 15 foot wide and deep hole, on your property and a stranger drives through your yard into that hole and gets injured from that hole because you didn't put signs up that said "WARNING, LARGE HOLE" or something, they can sue you, even if they're trespassing. It's negligent something something, from what I remember from my highschool law course. Everybody on the titanic who survived and the families of those who didn't technically could probably sue the company that made it for being negligent in providing enough lifeboats. If you have a hotdog at a sushi restaurant and eat like a turd and choke to death, they're liable because you died on THEIR property.

Yep, I think that's totally stupid.

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#21 wis3boi
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Bringing your own food to a place to eat... how damn rude.

"Oh, your food is crap so I brought my own, I'm just sitting here making noise and taking up a seat at your dining establishment."

Wasdie
came here to say this.
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#22 VanHelsingBoA64
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Bringing your own food to a place to eat... how damn rude.

"Oh, your food is crap so I brought my own, I'm just sitting here making noise and taking up a seat at your dining establishment."

Wasdie

^^Reminds me of this.

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#23 PerfectCircles
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My friends and I probably would have gotten up and left, but I live in an area where there's lots of options for sushi. It also has a high amount of college students so they're pretty lax around here when it comes to this kind of stuff.
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#24 markop2003
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Why do places have this policy? What do you think, is that fair?

gotdangit
Because the price of the building, heating ect is included in the price of the food, you are paying for the privilege to sit there just as much as the food itself. Yes, it's standard policy in most restaurants that if you don't order anything you have to leave, you can't have people taking up seats and not paying if you want to stay in business.
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#25 junglist101
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The whole weird thing about you having to order something from their menu was probably because it was a cheap sushi restaurant owned by asains.

It is kinda weird anyways to go to a restaurant and bring your own food and you should have just ordered something to drink when they started giving you a hard time.

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#26 PerfectCircles
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[QUOTE="gotdangit"]

Why do places have this policy? What do you think, is that fair?

markop2003
Because the price of the building, heating ect is included in the price of the food, you are paying for the privilege to sit there just as much as the food itself. Yes, it's standard policy in most restaurants that if you don't order anything you have to leave, you can't have people taking up seats and not paying if you want to stay in business.

I would hardly call this standard policy if you're with a group of people. I've been to restaurants countless times and just had the free water while others ate and have never been asked to leave.
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TC how old are that you can't comprehend basic things like no outside food ??

Then you think you can just use the seat to hang with your buds??

Clearly your parents need to explain how the real world works to you.

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#28 junglist101
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[QUOTE="gotdangit"]

Why do places have this policy? What do you think, is that fair?

markop2003

Because the price of the building, heating ect is included in the price of the food, you are paying for the privilege to sit there just as much as the food itself. Yes, it's standard policy in most restaurants that if you don't order anything you have to leave, you can't have people taking up seats and not paying if you want to stay in business.

If the person was by themselves maybe but if your with a group It seems a bit ridiculous. Unless the place is packed it's not costing the restaurant anything.

Although like I said in my post the whole situation was weird anyways. Proper manners dictate that you don't bring food to a restaurant and if your not planning to eat with your group it's proper to order a drink at minimum.

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#29 markop2003
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[QUOTE="PerfectCircles"][QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="gotdangit"] Because the price of the building, heating ect is included in the price of the food, you are paying for the privilege to sit there just as much as the food itself. Yes, it's standard policy in most restaurants that if you don't order anything you have to leave, you can't have people taking up seats and not paying if you want to stay in business.

I would hardly call this standard policy if you're with a group of people. I've been to restaurants countless times and just had the free water while others ate and have never been asked to leave.

It is round here, they probably didn't think they'd get someone else if you got up and left and so it was more profitable to keep you there.

If the person was by themselves maybe but if your with a group It seems a bit ridiculous. Unless the place is packed it's not costing the restaurant anything.

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It could be costing the place reputation and atmosphere, we have no idea what sort of sushi place this was. Black tie restaurants still exist and there are even private clubs which charge thousands in membership which won't let you in without a jacket.
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#30 junglist101
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It could be costing the place reputation and atmosphere, we have no idea what sort of sushi place this was. Black tie restaurants still exist and there are even private clubs which charge thousands in membership which won't let you in without a jacket.markop2003
You really think this was an expensive sushi restaurant?...

The last restaurant I ate at would charge you 75 dollars a person for missing a reservation. I don't think this was that kind of place lol.

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#31 gotdangit
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TC how old are that you can't comprehend basic things like no outside food ??

Then you think you can just use the seat to hang with your buds??

Clearly your parents need to explain how the real world works to you.

noscope-ak47

Older than you obviously since you can't comprehend simple text.

Yes I expect to be able to hang out with my friends at a restaurant where they all ordered and they already have an extra seat for me. Even if I was just going to get water.

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#32 gotdangit
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[QUOTE="markop2003"]It could be costing the place reputation and atmosphere, we have no idea what sort of sushi place this was. Black tie restaurants still exist and there are even private clubs which charge thousands in membership which won't let you in without a jacket.junglist101

You really think this was an expensive sushi restaurant?...

The last restaurant I ate at would charge you 75 dollars a person for missing a reservation. I don't think this was that kind of place lol.

It was a super tiny restaurant, could probably hold 30 people. It was half empty. They threw us in the back with a small table with 5 chairs. Not fancy at all, it was cheap even. I just don't like sushi, but they wanted sushi, so they went there. There was no other place to go out and eat at a table outside or anything so we were kind of forced to stay. It would have been too much of a hassle to try to move the food somewhere else, or even go somewhere else.

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#33 8-Bitterness
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Should've ordered even a drink, I mean, as unfair as it might seem you're actually sitting on their place occupying space that other people could potentially want.
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#35 junglist101
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[QUOTE="junglist101"]

[QUOTE="markop2003"]It could be costing the place reputation and atmosphere, we have no idea what sort of sushi place this was. Black tie restaurants still exist and there are even private clubs which charge thousands in membership which won't let you in without a jacket.gotdangit

You really think this was an expensive sushi restaurant?...

The last restaurant I ate at would charge you 75 dollars a person for missing a reservation. I don't think this was that kind of place lol.

It was a super tiny restaurant, could probably hold 30 people. It was half empty. They threw us in the back with a small table with 5 chairs. Not fancy at all, it was cheap even. I just don't like sushi, but they wanted sushi, so they went there. There was no other place to go out and eat at a table outside or anything so we were kind of forced to stay. It would have been too much of a hassle to try to move the food somewhere else, or even go somewhere else.

It was dumb for them to make a big deal. Those little places are almost always privately owned and sometimes the Asain folks that run them can be "interesting". They can get "interesting" customers too because it's cheaper so sometimes the staff is on the offensive because they're tired of some of the sh!t. There's this Thai BBQ place by my house where I could totally see the same events play out if you brought in food. Now I'm craving their BBQ beef ribs. Mmmmm---beef ribs *drools*

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#36 ZombieKiller7
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Your friends should have cancelled their orders.

And you shouldn't bring outside food.

If I go to restaurant as a group, I expect to be able to order coffee and just sit there for company if I'm not hungry.

Done it many times.

If they give you hassle, then cause a ruckus as a group, worse comes to worse teach the resutarant a lesson in manners.

I have no problem taking a plate of sushi and throwing it at the chef.

You mess with my friends, you mess with me.

And no we're not gonna be nice and order something small.

If I'm not hungry then I order a coffee.

You hassle us for that, you're gonna have a major problem.

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#37 The_Gaming_Baby
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Why didn't your friends go somewhere else that everyone would have liked?

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#39 SilentFireX
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Lol... you brought your own food in the restaurant, probably got all frustrated when asked to get rid of it, then didn't want to order anything, Sounds like a mature reaction to me.
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#40 Jd1680a
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Why not get an appetizer? Some how I doubt they only sell sushi.
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#41 BossPerson
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It makes perfect sense. They dont want you occupying their seats if your not going to give them some profit. I assume it wasnt a fast food style place since you have to order and stuff. If you want to chill, go to Mcdonalds.

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#42 Overlord93
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These are standard policies. All of them make sense, you can't use a restaurant like a public picnic table. At least order something small.
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#43 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Surreal is correct. Institutions can be liable for anything that happens under their roof. Thank the trial lawyers for that. You may have brought in the food, but if they dont have policies against that sort of thing, they could be held liable for any possible adverse outcome.

That being said, I dont know of any restaraunt that would appreciate you bringing in outside food and attempting to dine on it. Restaraunts make their money by serving people food. They're not a public park where you can just waltz in and make a mess. They are for paying customers. If you owned a restaraunt, would you want someone to come in, sit at one of your tables taking up space, and provide no business?

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#44 surrealnumber5
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Surreal is correct. sonicare

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#45 noscope-ak47
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Surreal is correct. Institutions can be liable for anything that happens under their roof. Thank the trial lawyers for that. You may have brought in the food, but if they dont have policies against that sort of thing, they could be held liable for any possible adverse outcome.

That being said, I dont know of any restaraunt that would appreciate you bringing in outside food and attempting to dine on it. Restaraunts make their money by serving people food. They're not a public park where you can just waltz in and make a mess. They are for paying customers. If you owned a restaraunt, would you want someone to come in, sit at one of your tables taking up space, and provide no business?

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He is a idiot who thinks only about himself. Everybody should do what he wants clearly mommy and daddy did a piss poor job if he still thinks like a little kid.

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#46 Apathetic_Prick
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]outside food is a liability, forcing patronage to stay is internal policy.gotdangit

How?

Re: outside food: It's because it's something that they can't directly control; they don't know how clean another establishment is. Further, if it's a restaurant that caters to things such as intolerances and allergies, it's a lawsuit waiting to happen. It's not just about selling your own food, it's about keeping the health inspectors off of your back; once they smell blood, you'll be in for a world of sh*t.

Regarding forced patronage: If you're with a group of people who are ordering, they can't enforce that on you. Not unless they want to see your complaint in the local paper; hint, hint. Which is why that is an internal policy.

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#47 MrPraline
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Surreal is correct.sonicare
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#48 IdioticIcarus
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I understand the not being able to take and eat outside food in another restaurant, but I've gone to restaurants with friends without ordering many times (food allergies) and have never been told that wasn't allowed. I don't understand that. I mean, if your entire table isn't ordering, yeah, but if everyone else but you is, I don't understand that.

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#49 MrPraline
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I understand the not being able to take and eat outside food in another restaurant, but I've gone to restaurants with friends without ordering many times (food allergies) and have never been told that wasn't allowed. I don't understand that. I mean, if your entire table isn't ordering, yeah, but if everyone else but you is, I don't understand that.

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I agree. Odds are the employee was already annoyed with him because of his previous rude behaviour.
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I hate how you can't smoke black n milds in restaurants