Why do restaurants have this policy?

The friend can order a drink if nothing else. I'm certainly not going to up and leave simply because my friend's being too much of a stubborn ass to even offer that much.worlock77

Hence "initially". But anywho. This is getting tedious. Bottom line is the TC was kind of a dick and it's not unreasonable for the restaraunt to not allow someone who isn't providing to their business to just hang around.

worlock77

That is the bottomline to you. Seeing your reply to mrGeezer I think in the end it depends on how each of us views those establishment. You probably see them as the place where you strictly go to consume whatever it is they offer (and doing that also enjoying other things such as warmth or cool temperatures, music etc), while me and MrGeezer view them as such but with a focus on one of the reasons why people go out and that is to hang out with others.

Like MrGeezer said of course it is kinda rude to not order anything but that doesnt mean he should order. Or that it is in the best interest of the store to kick him out like you argued.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]The friend can order a drink if nothing else. I'm certainly not going to up and leave simply because my friend's being too much of a stubborn ass to even offer that much.MrGeezer

Ok.

they probably just hate you TC.

No I kid. It's dumb people being dumb. Not much else to say except next time you should p!ss in their sink.

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]I clarified that the second time I replied to you.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Not not if all of them have ordered nothing. I'm talking about if say one or two of the people in the group havent. worlock77

Hence "initially". But anywho. This is getting tedious. Bottom line is the TC was kind of a dick and it's not unreasonable for the restaraunt to not allow someone who isn't providing to their business to just hang around.

So I go to this small sushi place, but I don't like sushi so I brought some food from Costco. 4 of the people im with are ordering besides me. But there are 5 chairs so I can sit. So they all order, and they see my food, and she says sorry, no outside food allowed.

This I understand, they would rather you buy food from their place then go out and bring food in. I don't really think I would care if I owned the restaurant but whatever that makes a little sense.

Then I said ok, well I'm not going to eat it, I'll just put it away in my girlfriends purse. Then she says. No you cannot have outside food, even if you don't eat it. So fine whatever I'll take it out. It's starting to get more dumb, I can't even have outside food if I won't eat it and it's put away?! What the...

Then everyone takes their order, and she looks at me, and I say that's ok, I'm fine. Then she says. I'm sorry but you have to order if you want to stay in the restaurant. What the frick.... There are already 5 chairs at the table. 4 of my friends are ordering and going to eat, and I can't even just come in and just hang out or chat with my friends while they eat? I have to freakin order something?! It's not like some other random person will be taking that seat anyways.... What the heck is this rule. I've never been to a restaurant like this...

Why do places have this policy, I really hate this place now, it's so dumb that they wouldn't even let me stay even though the majority of people are ordering. I'm not doing anything by being there.... Anyways, my friend just ordered something cheap for me and he ate it. so I got to stay. But wow, what a stupid policy I think.

If I owned a restaurant, I wouldn't care if people brought food as long as it was small, even a drink, I don't care, as long as they didn't just come in and not get anything from my store. But not allowing people to stay if they don't buy anything? That's ridiculous. What if I wasn't ready to order, or didn't feel like it, but later I wanted something? huh. Lost business. Forget you stupid sushi place.

Why do places do this?! What do you think, is that fair?

gotdangit

I heard this while reading your post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V2sBURgUBI

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Serraph105

Hence "initially". But anywho. This is getting tedious. Bottom line is the TC was kind of a dick and it's not unreasonable for the restaraunt to not allow someone who isn't providing to their business to just hang around.

Bringing in food from elsewhere into an establishment who's business is food is a dick move in the first place.

[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Hence "initially". But anywho. This is getting tedious. Bottom line is the TC was kind of a dick and it's not unreasonable for the restaraunt to not allow someone who isn't providing to their business to just hang around.

worlock77

Bringing in food from elsewhere into an establishment who's business is food is a dick move in the first place.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"] actually considering that he did what they asked of him (regardless of it being stupid) so I'm not sure where exactly he was being a dick.Serraph105

Bringing in food from elsewhere into an establishment who's business is food is a dick move in the first place.

And? Does ceasing in a dick move make it not a dick move to begin with?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"] actually considering that he did what they asked of him (regardless of it being stupid) so I'm not sure where exactly he was being a dick.Serraph105

Bringing in food from elsewhere into an establishment who's business is food is a dick move in the first place.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"] actually considering that he did what they asked of him (regardless of it being stupid) so I'm not sure where exactly he was being a dick.Serraph105

Bringing in food from elsewhere into an establishment who's business is food is a dick move in the first place.

Ok I slap you in the face and then say sorry so you should just get over it then.

I worked at a chinese food restaurant. Not sushi, but anyways they were all concerned that another chinese store was opening nearby that had a buffet. I asked why they didn't start a buffet too. They said no because the competition would put poison in the buffet.

Mayhaps that is why a sushi diner doesn't want you to bring in outside food. Fear of cross contamination.

[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Bringing in food from elsewhere into an establishment who's business is food is a dick move in the first place.

worlock77

And? Does ceasing in a dick move make it not a dick move to begin with?

I only wanted to eat my food with my friends, I seriously don't see how bringing food into another restaurant is rude. Just today I brought food from another place and brought it in to another where all my friends were. Guess what? They didn't ask me to leave, they didn't say anything. (this place was a lot more relaxed though) And guess what else? I got thirsty while eating my meal, and I ordered a drink from thus said place. It wasn't worth much, but they still got business. (Oh it's rude to support two businesses right? I should only be loyal to one)

Sometimes I feel like eating food that I want to eat not what others want to eat. See a problem with that?

As for the other place, we're not going back, so that's already lost business for them, if they had been nicer we would have gone back sometime probably since it is pretty close to where we live.

Case and point. Strict restaurants don't get returning customers.

[QUOTE="gotdangit"]

[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]What kind of idiot logic is that. So the owner should let people take up space as long as they are with a group??

Now everybody does it how many seats will be taken by people hanging out in a rush. It standard practice for people who go to a eatery to at least order a drink. However not only did he not order anything he brought in outside food. He then makes a fuss when they tell him the obvious and comes here to cry about it. Now unless you can see the future your a moron for saying that nobody else is going to come in the place, Guess he is special and the rules that everybody else follows should not apply to him. Now idiots are saying it is okay and making excuses for him. Hell I cancel my reservation and I get billed 15 bucks but I guess the owner should let me slide if I have a good excuse right smdh.

noscope-ak47

In the end, both the management and TC acted ridiculously in the whole ordeal.

Unfortunately it's the business that suffers most from it but oh well.

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[QUOTE="Serraph105"] and he put it away when they asked, twice.gotdangit

And? Does ceasing in a dick move make it not a dick move to begin with?

I only wanted to eat my food with my friends, I seriously don't see how bringing food into another restaurant is rude. Just today I brought food from another place and brought it in to another where all my friends were. Guess what? They didn't ask me to leave, they didn't say anything. (this place was a lot more relaxed though) And guess what else? I got thirsty while eating my meal, and I ordered a drink from thus said place. It wasn't worth much, but they still got business. (Oh it's rude to support two businesses right? I should only be loyal to one)

Sometimes I feel like eating food that I want to eat not what others want to eat. See a problem with that?

As for the other place, we're not going back, so that's already lost business for them, if they had been nicer we would have gone back sometime probably since it is pretty close to where we live.

Case and point. Strict restaurants don't get returning customers.

Reason. Why can't bring in your own food and eat it is because now they have to clean up your mess and taking up room for real customers and they receive no money from you.

Also depending where you live they really could be a law against it. In Ohio if you dine in you get tax, but dine out you don't so if you order dine out, but just go sit down once you get your food and start eating

With you must order something to stay deal. Well that kind of goes with now your wasting our time, end up making wipe up after you and you're taking up a seat for a paying customer. But because you were around a table with others who was going to eat, I think they went little over board,

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

And? Does ceasing in a dick move make it not a dick move to begin with?

LJS9502_basic

I only wanted to eat my food with my friends, I seriously don't see how bringing food into another restaurant is rude. Just today I brought food from another place and brought it in to another where all my friends were. Guess what? They didn't ask me to leave, they didn't say anything. (this place was a lot more relaxed though) And guess what else? I got thirsty while eating my meal, and I ordered a drink from thus said place. It wasn't worth much, but they still got business. (Oh it's rude to support two businesses right? I should only be loyal to one)

Sometimes I feel like eating food that I want to eat not what others want to eat. See a problem with that?

As for the other place, we're not going back, so that's already lost business for them, if they had been nicer we would have gone back sometime probably since it is pretty close to where we live.

Case and point. Strict restaurants don't get returning customers.

In General, really? That's why I've been to plenty of restaurants that either don't say anything or don't seem to care?

Keep making assumptions funny guy. You definitly know what you're talking about.

[QUOTE="gotdangit"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

And? Does ceasing in a dick move make it not a dick move to begin with?

LJS9502_basic

I only wanted to eat my food with my friends, I seriously don't see how bringing food into another restaurant is rude. Just today I brought food from another place and brought it in to another where all my friends were. Guess what? They didn't ask me to leave, they didn't say anything. (this place was a lot more relaxed though) And guess what else? I got thirsty while eating my meal, and I ordered a drink from thus said place. It wasn't worth much, but they still got business. (Oh it's rude to support two businesses right? I should only be loyal to one)

Sometimes I feel like eating food that I want to eat not what others want to eat. See a problem with that?

As for the other place, we're not going back, so that's already lost business for them, if they had been nicer we would have gone back sometime probably since it is pretty close to where we live.

Case and point. Strict restaurants don't get returning customers.

Where do you get your logic?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="gotdangit"]How are you this stupid. What If someone has dietary needs or allergies. So they bring their own food. Is that rude? No, you're stupid if you think that's rude.

I only wanted to eat my food with my friends, I seriously don't see how bringing food into another restaurant is rude. Just today I brought food from another place and brought it in to another where all my friends were. Guess what? They didn't ask me to leave, they didn't say anything. (this place was a lot more relaxed though) And guess what else? I got thirsty while eating my meal, and I ordered a drink from thus said place. It wasn't worth much, but they still got business. (Oh it's rude to support two businesses right? I should only be loyal to one)

Sometimes I feel like eating food that I want to eat not what others want to eat. See a problem with that?

As for the other place, we're not going back, so that's already lost business for them, if they had been nicer we would have gone back sometime probably since it is pretty close to where we live.

Case and point. Strict restaurants don't get returning customers.

gotdangit

Where do you get your logic?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"] and he put it away when they asked, twice.gotdangit

And? Does ceasing in a dick move make it not a dick move to begin with?

I only wanted to eat my food with my friends, I seriously don't see how bringing food into another restaurant is rude. Just today I brought food from another place and brought it in to another where all my friends were. Guess what? They didn't ask me to leave, they didn't say anything. (this place was a lot more relaxed though) And guess what else? I got thirsty while eating my meal, and I ordered a drink from thus said place. It wasn't worth much, but they still got business. (Oh it's rude to support two businesses right? I should only be loyal to one)

Sometimes I feel like eating food that I want to eat not what others want to eat. See a problem with that?

As for the other place, we're not going back, so that's already lost business for them, if they had been nicer we would have gone back sometime probably since it is pretty close to where we live.

Case and point. Strict restaurants don't get returning customers.

If you had food allergies then it is unwise to go to a place that could upset these allergies. Food allergies can be serious, even fatal, and in some cases even being around food that you're allergic to is dangerious. Now stop being a moron.

I can understand your frustration TC. But see it from the restaurant's point of view. Outside food they have no control over becomes a liability for them. What if you got sick from the Costco bought food? Unlikely as it may be, but it becomes the restaurant's problem because someone got sick at their establishment. For all you know, maybe something like that happened in the past at that sushi place, and they had to make a strict policy on outside food/drink. It's probably not as uncommon as you think.

And to be honest, if I owned a restaurant and someone bought outside food, I'd have every right to kick them out.

Think of a landlord, who has a no dogs or cats rule. If a person renting out the landlord's property brings in a pet and refuses to give up the pet, guess what the landlord is gonna do and fully within his rights to do so...? :P

You should have just said "Hey guys I don't like sushi, in fact I don't like it so much that I am going to go out of my way to not eat it and bring my own food and then when that situation upsets the establishment, I am going to make a big deal out of nothing and then complain about it on the internet to strangers... So can we eat somewhere else?"

Obviously you played that situation wrong.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Dude if you have dietary restrictions....you don't go to the restaurant. You really need to stop hanging out with friends that can afford to eat out while you have to bring peanut butter and jelly from home. And no.....in general....there are no restaurants that allow food to be brought in and eaten in their establishment. Damn you're a tool...LJS9502_basic

Where do you get your logic?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"] and he put it away when they asked, twice.gotdangit

And? Does ceasing in a dick move make it not a dick move to begin with?

I only wanted to eat my food with my friends, I seriously don't see how bringing food into another restaurant is rude. Just today I brought food from another place and brought it in to another where all my friends were. Guess what? They didn't ask me to leave, they didn't say anything. (this place was a lot more relaxed though) And guess what else? I got thirsty while eating my meal, and I ordered a drink from thus said place. It wasn't worth much, but they still got business. (Oh it's rude to support two businesses right? I should only be loyal to one)

Sometimes I feel like eating food that I want to eat not what others want to eat. See a problem with that?

As for the other place, we're not going back, so that's already lost business for them, if they had been nicer we would have gone back sometime probably since it is pretty close to where we live.

Case and point. Strict restaurants don't get returning customers.

[QUOTE="gotdangit"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

And? Does ceasing in a dick move make it not a dick move to begin with?

Serraph105

I only wanted to eat my food with my friends, I seriously don't see how bringing food into another restaurant is rude. Just today I brought food from another place and brought it in to another where all my friends were. Guess what? They didn't ask me to leave, they didn't say anything. (this place was a lot more relaxed though) And guess what else? I got thirsty while eating my meal, and I ordered a drink from thus said place. It wasn't worth much, but they still got business. (Oh it's rude to support two businesses right? I should only be loyal to one)

Sometimes I feel like eating food that I want to eat not what others want to eat. See a problem with that?

As for the other place, we're not going back, so that's already lost business for them, if they had been nicer we would have gone back sometime probably since it is pretty close to where we live.

Case and point. Strict restaurants don't get returning customers.

Bringing your own food to a place to eat... how damn rude.

"Oh, your food is crap so I brought my own, I'm just sitting here making noise and taking up a seat at your dining establishment."

Wasdie

This.

[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="gotdangit"]How are you this stupid. What If someone has dietary needs or allergies. So they bring their own food. Is that rude? No, you're stupid if you think that's rude.

I only wanted to eat my food with my friends, I seriously don't see how bringing food into another restaurant is rude. Just today I brought food from another place and brought it in to another where all my friends were. Guess what? They didn't ask me to leave, they didn't say anything. (this place was a lot more relaxed though) And guess what else? I got thirsty while eating my meal, and I ordered a drink from thus said place. It wasn't worth much, but they still got business. (Oh it's rude to support two businesses right? I should only be loyal to one)

Sometimes I feel like eating food that I want to eat not what others want to eat. See a problem with that?

As for the other place, we're not going back, so that's already lost business for them, if they had been nicer we would have gone back sometime probably since it is pretty close to where we live.

Case and point. Strict restaurants don't get returning customers.

LJS9502_basic

Should've ordered even a drink, I mean, as unfair as it might seem you're actually sitting on their place occupying space that other people could potentially want.8-Bitterness

This

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Serraph105"] I'm with you dude. You put it your food away for them twice and even if it was a d!ck move in the first place the people working at the place don't get to turn around and be d!cks to you. Dining places are about customer service, and even if you weren't eating that day (other people at your table were so that shouldn't be a problem) places of business won't gain loyal customers when the people being served (or not served) have a bad experience.STAR_Admiral

Using this logic no business should ever remove anyone regardless of how they're violating the business's policies.

Gotdangit - Why should the restaurant be paying to provide you with a place to sit and eat, and perhaps use their bathroom? They run the location for a reason - to sell food to customers, not to provide a comfortable eating area for folks who bought sushi at the grocery store. It may seem like they're being pretty uptight, but I think you just don't understand business. It's the same reason a stranger won't let you park in their laneway even if it's during the hours they're at work and with their car.

Using this logic no business should ever remove anyone regardless of how they're violating the business's policies.worlock77

I would personally consider most resturaunts or pubs that don't have dick policies regarding outside food to be a good way to keep business. But sure, fair enough if you just rocked up on your own with a bag of McDonald's or whatever. But if you're there with several friends.....well, you weren't going to eat their food anyway.....and they're already catering to a paying table. No problem as far as I'm concerned.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]Using this logic no business should ever remove anyone regardless of how they're violating the business's policies.MrGeezer

I believe the business can determine what's in its own best interests.

dude wtf, i can understand the first part but the second part is frikkin dumb. i would have trolled them and acted stupid to piss them off on purpose if that happened to me. PM me their phone number and ill prank call them for u and post it on youtubeHarryOsborn

I would personally consider most resturaunts or pubs that don't have dick policies regarding outside food to be a good way to keep business. But sure, fair enough if you just rocked up on your own with a bag of McDonald's or whatever. But if you're there with several friends.....well, you weren't going to eat their food anyway.....and they're already catering to a paying table. No problem as far as I'm concerned.

Celldrax

Again, the outside food is a liability issue. The restaraunt is responsible for what happens inside their establishment. They have no control over food brought in from outside. Cross contamination can be a real issue for people with food allergies, and if someone with a peanut allergy gets sick because the restaraunt let you bring in a peanut butter sandwich then it's their ass on the line. This is why, for example, on Amtrak trains you are allowed to bring your own food on the train, but you are not allowed to eat it in the dining area.

Again, the outside food is a liability issue. The restaraunt is responsible for what happens inside their establishment. They have no control over food brought in from outside. Cross contamination can be a real issue for people with food allergies, and if someone with a peanut allergy gets sick because the restaraunt let you bring in a peanut butter sandwich then it's their ass on the line. This is why, for example, on Amtrak trains you are allowed to bring your own food on the train, but you are not allowed to eat it in the dining area.

worlock77

Fair enough. Though in truth, I was kinda thinking more along the lines of pubs and fast food joints in general, which do tend to be pretty public places. If someone wants me gone simply because they're not making money from a coke drink or whatever, then they've made a poor choice.

They can't force you to order something. You should've ordered water; that would show her.harashawn

[QUOTE="worlock77"]Using this logic no business should ever remove anyone regardless of how they're violating the business's policies.MrGeezer

They can't force you to order something. You should've ordered water; that would show her.harashawn

[QUOTE="harashawn"]They can't force you to order something. You should've ordered water; that would show her.kraychik

[QUOTE="kraychik"][QUOTE="harashawn"]They can't force you to order something. You should've ordered water; that would show her.harashawn

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[QUOTE="kraychik"] They can't force you order anything, you're right, but they can require that you order something or leave their establishment.kraychik

Where I live, even outside diners have that policy so I have just gotten used to it. If I just want to sit down I usually order a soda to drink so nobody can complain.

[QUOTE="kraychik"][QUOTE="harashawn"] Who else is going to use that seat? They can ask you to leave, but you are under no obligation to do so. It is not disturbing anyone.harashawn

[QUOTE="kraychik"][QUOTE="harashawn"]They can't force you to order something. You should've ordered water; that would show her.harashawn