Why do so many people hate capitalism?

What is wrong with individuals owning their own things, and choosing what to do with their things? Why can't we all be free (that means economic freedom), and respect the freedom of others? Why do so many people try to control what others do with their money/property?

This will be good.

Im gonna just sit back and grab some popcorn.

What is wrong with individuals owning their own things, and choosing what to do with their things? Why can't we all be free (that means economic freedom), and respect the freedom of others? Why do so many people try to control what others do with their money/property?

Laihendi

lol

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Bane_09

Don't be like Droid.

Because unchecked capitalism can lead to unfair distribution of power through wealth, monopolies, resource exploitation, repression of unions, no concern for the environment, and lots of other issues.

Even so, I think capitalism (with regulations) is the best economic system for large countries.

[QUOTE="Bane_09"]

lol

Storm_Marine

Don't be like Droid.

You expect me to take the TC seriously?? Who actually hates capitalism? I for one am very fond of the system as I am sure anyone with any sense is

edit: and also I'm not really sure what you are talking about

I'd like to know who these people are that hate capitalism. Is Kim-jong Il posting from the grave?

Even so, I think capitalism (with regulations) is the best economic system for large countries.

XaosII

What about small countries? :|

Nothing as long as there is some regulation. The owners are indifferent to the workers and don't mind taking advantage of them, which is why we have minimum wage and employment benefits.

If a nation is going to claim to be moral, then you can't run society as dog eat dog. If you can't even provide HEALTH to your people, can you consider that to be a moral nation. A nation that lets insurance companies decide weather you live or die, a nation that allows your employers to screw you over, a nation that allows class warfare to be inevitable-that can be the very outcome from full blow capitalism.

I would normally call troll for stupid questions like this but you can never know exactly whether or not someone is a delusional right-winger.

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[QUOTE="Bane_09"]

lol

Bane_09

Don't be like Droid.

Who actually hates capitalism?

The people that walk around holding "down with capitalism!" signs, for one.

How is it their money or property? -Sun_Tzu-

Because it's a jerk.

[QUOTE="Bane_09"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Don't be like Droid.

Storm_Marine

Who actually hates capitalism?

The people that walk around holding "down with capitalism!" signs, for one.

And as I said before which you edited out anyone with any sense does not hate capitalism. This thread seems like the TC has some kind of persecution complex

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

Even so, I think capitalism (with regulations) is the best economic system for large countries.

Storm_Marine

What about small countries? :|

Maybe. A small, undeveloped country could probably benefit more from a tighter control of economic systems than capitalism until they get a much more stable economy.

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[QUOTE="Bane_09"]

Who actually hates capitalism?

Bane_09

The people that walk around holding "down with capitalism!" signs, for one.

And as I said before which you edited out anyone with any sense does not hate capitalism.This thread seems like the TC has some kind of persecution complex

OBVIOUSLY.

Nothing as long as there is some regulation. The owners are indifferent to the workers and don't mind taking advantage of them, which is why we have minimum wage and employment benefits.

If a nation is going to claim to be moral, then you can't run society as dog eat dog. If you can't even provide HEALTH to your people, can you consider that to be a moral nation. A nation that lets insurance companies decide weather you live or die, a nation that allows your employers to screw you over, a nation that allows class warfare to be inevitable-that can be the very outcome from full blow capitalism.

Omni-Wrath

Very few people hate capitalism in terms of private property, but many hate the ideological baggage that comes with it; zero welfare, no socialized institutions other than military and similar idiotic ideas.jointed

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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

The people that walk around holding "down with capitalism!" signs, for one.

Storm_Marine

And as I said before which you edited out anyone with any sense does not hate capitalism.This thread seems like the TC has some kind of persecution complex

OBVIOUSLY.

Now you're just being a bully:(

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]How is it their money or property? Laihendi

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

Even so, I think capitalism (with regulations) is the best economic system for large countries.

XaosII

What about small countries? :|

Maybe. A small, undeveloped country could probably benefit more from a tighter control of economic systems than capitalism until they get a much more stable economy.

I think minimizing taxes and making foreign investment as easy as possible would be better ideas. The wealthiest countries in the world tend to be small population, extremely business and investment friendly countries.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]How is it their money or property? -Sun_Tzu-

Poor Republicans, it's them versus the world and no one understands:cry:

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

Nothing as long as there is some regulation. The owners are indifferent to the workers and don't mind taking advantage of them, which is why we have minimum wage and employment benefits.

If a nation is going to claim to be moral, then you can't run society as dog eat dog. If you can't even provide HEALTH to your people, can you consider that to be a moral nation. A nation that lets insurance companies decide weather you live or die, a nation that allows your employers to screw you over, a nation that allows class warfare to be inevitable-that can be the very outcome from full blow capitalism.

Laihendi

Because if there is no minimum wage, companies can lower the wage all they would like. Especially when work is hard to find, companies could take advantage of high demand and make people work at even lower wages.

If you want to consider a nation moral, can you just leave the workers out? Can a moral country let its wokers be chewed up by profit driven countries? No.

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

Nothing as long as there is some regulation. The owners are indifferent to the workers and don't mind taking advantage of them, which is why we have minimum wage and employment benefits.

If a nation is going to claim to be moral, then you can't run society as dog eat dog. If you can't even provide HEALTH to your people, can you consider that to be a moral nation. A nation that lets insurance companies decide weather you live or die, a nation that allows your employers to screw you over, a nation that allows class warfare to be inevitable-that can be the very outcome from full blow capitalism.

Laihendi

I agree.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

Nothing as long as there is some regulation. The owners are indifferent to the workers and don't mind taking advantage of them, which is why we have minimum wage and employment benefits.

If a nation is going to claim to be moral, then you can't run society as dog eat dog. If you can't even provide HEALTH to your people, can you consider that to be a moral nation. A nation that lets insurance companies decide weather you live or die, a nation that allows your employers to screw you over, a nation that allows class warfare to be inevitable-that can be the very outcome from full blow capitalism.

Omni-Wrath

Because if there is no minimum wage, companies can lower the wage all they would like. Especially when work is hard to find, companies could take advantage of high demand and make people work at even lower wages.

If you want to consider a nation moral, can you just leave the workers out? Can a moral country let its wokers be chewed up by profit driven countries? No.

Troll thread?

Troll thread?

coolbeans90

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] Why does anyone deserve a minimum wage? Why does one man deserve $7.25/hour to do a job when there are countless other people who are willing to do the same job for less? If someone is offering work for horribly low pay and no benefits, aren't we all free to simply decline the job offer?Laihendi

Because if there is no minimum wage, companies can lower the wage all they would like. Especially when work is hard to find, companies could take advantage of high demand and make people work at even lower wages.

If you want to consider a nation moral, can you just leave the workers out? Can a moral country let its wokers be chewed up by profit driven countries? No.

Hmm, morality is morality. What exactly do I need to define for you? If you read history, you can see how exploited workers used to be. Can you make the claim that it is moral?

If jobs are scarce and there is no minimum wage, what holds the company back from abusing it? Could you claim that to be moral?

Don't get my point wrong. I am not claiming the company to go on some moral crusading, but rather the country to regulate and make sure there are ethics in play.

Because they suck at it.

Because it's inherently inegalitarian.ghoklebutter

[QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] Why does anyone deserve a minimum wage? Why does one man deserve $7.25/hour to do a job when there are countless other people who are willing to do the same job for less? If someone is offering work for horribly low pay and no benefits, aren't we all free to simply decline the job offer?Laihendi

Because if there is no minimum wage, companies can lower the wage all they would like. Especially when work is hard to find, companies could take advantage of high demand and make people work at even lower wages.

If you want to consider a nation moral, can you just leave the workers out? Can a moral country let its wokers be chewed up by profit driven countries? No.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]Because it's inherently inegalitarian.Laihendi

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]Because it's inherently inegalitarian.Laihendi

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Omni-Wrath"]

Because if there is no minimum wage, companies can lower the wage all they would like. Especially when work is hard to find, companies could take advantage of high demand and make people work at even lower wages.

If you want to consider a nation moral, can you just leave the workers out? Can a moral country let its wokers be chewed up by profit driven countries? No.

Omni-Wrath

Hmm, morality is morality. What exactly do I need to define for you? If you read history, you can see how exploited workers used to be. Can you make the claim that it is moral?

If jobs are scarce and there is no minimum wage, what holds the company back from abusing it? Could you claim that to be moral?

Don't get my point wrong. I am not claiming the company to go on some moral crusading, but rather the country to regulate and make sure there are ethics in play.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]Because it's inherently inegalitarian.Laihendi

Does a part-time Mcdonalds worker get paid as well as a doctor? No, your point is moot.

Oh and being a doctor is an extremly hard job, yet they make less than 70x of what a CEO makes. Is that income fairness? Does a CEO work 70 times harder than a doctor?I am not asking for a doctors wage to be increased, but pointing out the disparity.

Does America have an insane gap between the rich and the poor? Has the income disparity increased during the past 20 years? Yes.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]If something does not belong to anyone, it can be claimed by anyone. The person who can enforce that claim of ownership is effectively the owner, until he relinquishes it to someone else (charity, trade, etc).Laihendi