Why do you hate it ? ( please be open minded )

Well, I'm sorry, what else do you need? Besides you called me a dolt. Totally uncalled for to begin with. WhiteSnake5000

[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"][QUOTE="YourChaosIsntMe"]There are a lot of negative aspects of marijuana use, especially habitual marijuana use. Notably, the vast majority of information widely used against and for marijuana use today is usually propaganda (at worst), or scientific research being misrepresented or grossly exaggerated. Much of this research, likewise, is roughly inversely analogous to the research commissioned by companies such as R.J. Reynolds to prove that tobacco use has no detrimental medical effects. Rather than being privately funded, it is often commissioned through the DEA. On the other hand, there is legitimate research that exists, and much of it finds, in the various aspects of the studies, that marijuana use is and/or can be harmful, depending on various factors (though less so than alcohol consumption or playing football).YourChaosIsntMe

Its not inherently bad, its just that unless your friends with people who smoke every day or every other day and you're sober (no drugs or alcohol) for quite some time you realize how much it changes people and you realize some of the lengths they go to just to get high. I've been ditched and excluded from things so many times because I didn't want to get high. Its pretty ridiculous.

Don't ever let anyone tell you weed is not addictive. You can't become physically dependent on it but when the area goes dry you can see who is a real big stoner, they get shakey and buy cigarettes by the boat load.

I think you should watch your tone a bit, all this hostility out of nothing, especially when I agree with most of your points... Anyway, smoke of any kind is harmful, period. Hence, why I actually do not smoke weed. I vaporize it, just look back into the thread I could swear I mentioned something about smoke being harmful. AndI used water as an example... Here check it out. http://environment.about.com/od/healthenvironment/a/tap_water_safe.htm Now, most people that drink tap water or bottled water, do not get sick from it and don't expect to have any serious affects from it. Same goes with Marijuana... Despite that there is some research and evidence behind them both being harmful in some way. I just think people over state how harmful it really is, without knowing how harmful it actually is. There are varying degrees of harm. We have to draw the line somewhere. WhiteSnake5000

The statement "If Most people who drink tap water do not get sick, and most people who smoke pot suffer no major negative effects, then the possibility and nature of negative consequences are relative to one another" is invalid, it is a fallacy. "If P is R and Q is R ----> P and R are U " is not valid. Such statements concern the most simplistic rules of logic in mathematics. Marijuana, with long-term use, has inevitable consequences, though often marginal. This is regardless of external circumstances, like mismanagement of the water supply and purification system (and in some cases the public sector at large).

It's not about the severity of side effects, but the existence of them. again, the correlation between drinking water and marijuana simply doesn't exist, and no aspect of the argument is cogent, sorry.

Holy crap, I just hit 1000.

I don't hate marijuana, but a documentary called 'Totally Baked' doesn't sound like the most definitive source for unbiased information.DJ_Lae

Yeah, I checked some of it out on Youtube and, to say the least, it's definitely not the place you want to look for good, unbiased and well presented information. Anyone looking for a good documentary on the subject should check out The Union: The Business Behind Getting High.

WhiteSnake5000

I know that arguing against anti-legislation reform can influence a drive to develop a convenient argument, but convenient arguments often become illogical. The issue goes far beyond physical and psychological health into the realm of economics and business, law, sociology, and even U.S. history (specifically during industrialization). The argument concerning health is simply the convenient one.

The War on Drugs is a red herring, hahaha.

Also, Totally Baked is the antithesis of objectivity, haha. I forgot to mention that to begin with...

Well if it's ever legalized, I hope people decide to use vaporizers. So we can all avoid the carcinogens. WhiteSnake5000

Well if it's ever legalized, I hope people decide to use vaporizers. So we can all avoid the carcinogens. WhiteSnake5000

[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]Well if it's ever legalized, I hope people decide to use vaporizers. So we can all avoid the carcinogens. warbmxjohn

[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]Well if it's ever legalized, I hope people decide to use vaporizers. So we can all avoid the carcinogens. Tiefster

[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]Well if it's ever legalized, I hope people decide to use vaporizers. So we can all avoid the carcinogens. WhiteSnake5000

[QUOTE="Tiefster"][QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]Well if it's ever legalized, I hope people decide to use vaporizers. So we can all avoid the carcinogens. WhiteSnake5000

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[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"][QUOTE="Tiefster"]Well I doubt you'd be able to smoke a joint while you're walking down the street.YourChaosIsntMe

Well that certainly annoys me too, though there is (nearly) 100% proof that marijuana contains carcinogens, and there is (nearly) 100% proof that carcinogens are conducive to the development of cancer. Ergo, marijuana is harmful to some degree. YourChaosIsntMe

Anyways, I want opinions... that is if this thread doesn't get shot down right away :)
But, look at the questions. and post what you believe the answers are.

Virus214

My opinion... don't personally hate marijuana. Don't even mind indulging myself, every now and again, in fact. But at the same time, I don't think it should be legalized. I would elaborate, but all I can really say is some vague idea that alcohol and cigarettes already have been legalzied and I wouldn't want to add another " probable addicting vice " that the government would be blamed for legalizing.

Okay walk into a room full of pot smokers sober and you'll see why. A bunch of idiots sitting on a sofa laughing at a tv thats not on and eating everything isnt my definition of coolsoulfood4

Haven't tried either weed or tobacco (Only 15)

I think their is a small chance of me trying weed... but I will never smoke tobacco... that stuff kills you... theres is totally solid evidence of that