Probably because of the first artists that drew him and how they believed might and wisdom should be portrayed...And there's the whole "Stolen Zeus' style" thing going on...
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Probably because of the first artists that drew him and how they believed might and wisdom should be portrayed...And there's the whole "Stolen Zeus' style" thing going on...
LordRork
I think it's pretty much a fact that Jesus had skin ranging from light brown to dark brown, since that's generally the common skin color palette for Middle Eastern people. Going by the Christian theory of the Holy Trinity, then God sent himself down to Earth and was born through a woman. Without questioning his omnipotence let's say he had no control over his genetic traits or anything like that. Assuming that both what evolutionary studies have shown us are true and that God created us in his own image, then it would make the most sense to assume God has black skin, since I believe the earliest humanoids for example the Homo erectus were black skinned. Of course if he didn't care for those and had a deliberate plan to specifically "create" only the esoteric race of people in his own image, then it's not far fetched to say God had Middle Eastern skin.
However I don't really believe in any of that. If a god exists, I don't think he has a form at all. What evolution has taught us directly contradicts the idea that "God" even created humans specifically. In my opinion, the human race really needs to get over itself. We are in no way special. Perhaps only one way; we have an advanced brain and are capable of many things that give us the upper hand in nature. That's my take on the issue at least.
[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]Actually that's a very complex subject....one would have to be schooled in theology to be able to explain it sufficiently..as Catholics are taught they are three beings one God...so the three make up the one but they're different..Xx_Hopeless_xXWell, I went to Catholic school for 10 years... This is what I was taught by priests and nuns.Well congratulations...as i said..it's complex..and i don't have sufficient knowledge in regards to theology to explain it in a way that would make sense.. ...that is because it makes no sense. No one has "sufficient knowledge" to explain it.
[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]Well congratulations...as i said..it's complex..and i don't have sufficient knowledge in regards to theology to explain it in a way that would make sense..Xx_Hopeless_xX...that is because it makes no sense. No one has "sufficient knowledge" to explain it.Those who have more knowledge in regards to this subject probably could... I have to disagree... taking what is a faulty premise on it's face and trying to twist it into something else else using semantics isn't going to change it's originally faulty premise.
[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]Those who have more knowledge in regards to this subject probably could...Xx_Hopeless_xXI have to disagree... taking what is a faulty premise on it's face and trying to twist it into something else else using semantics isn't going to change it's originally faulty premise. I don't see how it's faulty...it's complex yes..but it can be understood...i'm just not the right person to explain it.. ahh... so it's not faulty, but you can't explain why... how convenient
[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="mfp16"] I have to disagree... taking what is a faulty premise on it's face and trying to twist it into something else else using semantics isn't going to change it's originally faulty premise. mfp16I don't see how it's faulty...it's complex yes..but it can be understood...i'm just not the right person to explain it..[/QUOTE ]As another poster said "That doesn't mean they take the same form...."..and they aren't literally one person... ahh... so it's not faulty, but you can't explain why... how convenient
[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] I don't see how it's faulty...it's complex yes..but it can be understood...i'm just not the right person to explain it..Xx_Hopeless_xXAs another poster said "That doesn't mean they take the same form...."..and they aren't literally one person... ahh... so it's not faulty, but you can't explain why... how convenient
so... chrisitians are monotheists, but the trinity isn't one person? How exactly does that work?
You only have two choices here, they are one god, the same being, or they are different gods. There is no middle ground. Using semantics is not going to solve the problem.
[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="mfp16"]As another poster said "That doesn't mean they take the same form...."..and they aren't literally one person... ahh... so it's not faulty, but you can't explain why... how convenient mfp16
so... chrisitians are monotheists, but the trinity isn't one person? How exactly does that work?
You only have two choices here, they are one god, the same being, or they are different gods. There is no middle ground. Using semantics is not going to solve the problem.
They are three persons, one God...as in they are all one..yet not all one..and Christians are Trinitarians... God is the Father, the One and Only God Jesus is the Son of God In Christianity, the Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost) is the Spirit of God[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]So for two pages you argue he was white.... and now you realize that assertion makes no sense, so suddenly it doesn't matter? I wasn't arguing. I said he was probably Light Skinned. Not white.Why does it matter what Color Jesus was?
mfp16
[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]Xx_Hopeless_xX
so... chrisitians are monotheists, but the trinity isn't one person? How exactly does that work?
You only have two choices here, they are one god, the same being, or they are different gods. There is no middle ground. Using semantics is not going to solve the problem.
They are three persons, one God...as in they are all one..yet not all one..and Christians are Trinitarians... God is the Father, the One and Only God Jesus is the Son of God In Christianity, the Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost) is the Spirit of God Trinitarians? You can't make up a new word just to avoid polytheism, Yes or No, was Jesus a god?[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]So for two pages you argue he was white.... and now you realize that assertion makes no sense, so suddenly it doesn't matter? I wasn't arguing. I said he was probably Light Skinned. Not white. Dude, the evidence is in this very thread... scroll up...Why does it matter what Color Jesus was?
Snipes_2
The only time I said he was White was in response to another user saying he was white. Snipes_2Let me give some examples...
Well, She had Joseph to watch over her. I don't know how they had white skin, they just did. Snipes_2
Middle Eastern I think he had Light Skin, Look at Mary for example.Snipes_2What does saying he was "light skinned" or "white" have any real difference? You claimed he was "light-skinned", then after that was shown to be an irrational belief you then said the argument didn't matter...
[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="mfp16"]They are three persons, one God...as in they are all one..yet not all one..and Christians are Trinitarians... God is the Father, the One and Only God Jesus is the Son of God In Christianity, the Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost) is the Spirit of GodJust because you have never heard of it doesn't mean it's made up...go look it up on dictionary.com... Trinitarians? You can't make up a new word just to avoid polytheism, Yes or No, was Jesus a god?just because you have never heard of it doesn't mean it is made up..go look it up on dictionary.com..so... chrisitians are monotheists, but the trinity isn't one person? How exactly does that work?
You only have two choices here, they are one god, the same being, or they are different gods. There is no middle ground. Using semantics is not going to solve the problem.
mfp16
just because you have never heard of it doesn't mean it is made up..go look it up on dictionary.com..Xx_Hopeless_xX
I'm well aware of them term... it was developed so Christians could get away with having three gods and not being called polytheists. It's the same thing with "macro evolution", theists make up a term to avoid an uncomfortable truth...
Well, She had Joseph to watch over her. I don't know how they had white skin, they just did. Snipes_2
Middle Eastern I think he had Light Skin, Look at Mary for example.Snipes_2What does saying he was "light skinned" or "white" have any real difference? You claimed he was "light-skinned", then after that was shown to be an irrational belief you then said the argument didn't matter... Err...No. Light skinned does not equal White. And the other quote is in response to a user who said they were White. :/
[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]just because you have never heard of it doesn't mean it is made up..go look it up on dictionary.com..
mfp16
I'm well aware of them term... it was developed so Christians could get away with having three gods and not being called polytheists. It's the same thing with "macro evolution", theists make up a term to avoid an uncomfortable truth...
Uhm..no that term has been used for centuries...it is the belief in the holy trinity..it's not polytheism..because God is the One God..Middle Eastern I think he had Light Skin, Look at Mary for example.Snipes_2What does saying he was "light skinned" or "white" have any real difference? You claimed he was "light-skinned", then after that was shown to be an irrational belief you then said the argument didn't matter... Err...No. Light skinned does not equal White. And the other quote is in response to a user who said they were White. :/ ... and what does "light-skinned not being white" have anything to do with this debate? It's quite simple, you advocated for a "light-skinned" Jesus, but when shown that is an irrational belief you then claimed the argument no longer mattered. It's black and white.
[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="mfp16"]They are three persons, one God...as in they are all one..yet not all one..and Christians are Trinitarians... God is the Father, the One and Only God Jesus is the Son of God In Christianity, the Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost) is the Spirit of God Trinitarians? You can't make up a new word just to avoid polytheism, Yes or No, was Jesus a god? Pst...trinitarian isn't a new word.so... chrisitians are monotheists, but the trinity isn't one person? How exactly does that work?
You only have two choices here, they are one god, the same being, or they are different gods. There is no middle ground. Using semantics is not going to solve the problem.
mfp16
Trinitarians? You can't make up a new word just to avoid polytheism, Yes or No, was Jesus a god? Pst...trinitarian isn't a new word. I'm well aware of that... see my follow up post.[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] They are three persons, one God...as in they are all one..yet not all one..and Christians are Trinitarians... God is the Father, the One and Only God Jesus is the Son of God In Christianity, the Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost) is the Spirit of GodLJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Pst...trinitarian isn't a new word. I'm well aware of that... see my follow up post.Then why say that?:? Anyway, there are three persons..ONE God. And the forms, as I said before Hopeless....are different.[QUOTE="mfp16"] Trinitarians? You can't make up a new word just to avoid polytheism, Yes or No, was Jesus a god?mfp16
[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not sure why you told me that....LJS9502_basicIt's quite simple... you asked me a question, I answered it.No....telling me I don't have to agree with you wasn't part of my question.;) My sincerest apologies... I will relegate my responses to you in the future without adding superfluous comments in the future.
Aren't all physical avatars of God forbidden?-eddy-Not in christianity... there is a gigantic "physical avatar" of god on the sistine chapel. Only muslims have that rule with Mohammad I believe, though I'm not 100% sure, I'm only really familiar with christianity.
[QUOTE="-eddy-"]Aren't all physical avatars of God forbidden?mfp16Not in christianity... there is a gigantic "physical avatar" of god on the sistine chapel. Only muslims have that rule with Mohammad I believe, though I'm not 100% sure, I'm only really familiar with christianity. Look up the second commandment...:|
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