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#1 Stranger_4
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Apparantly man cares so much about animals, I dont understand why doesnt it kill all lions, wild dogs, tigers etc who kill other animals so brutally and mercilessly???

I mean I was watching some hyenas eating a deer alive and they were ripping flesh while it was alive.:?

Now all those people who get all so sensitive about animal creulty, why da **** do you not have a problem with that?:roll:

Why should mankind give a damn about species who only give pain and torture to others????

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#2 Citrus25
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Because quality-wise they get high class proteins.
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#3 Tezcatlipoca666
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There is a difference between killing a prey to survive and crushing a dog in a garbage truck while it is still alive. Sorry.
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#4 Norg
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i think we our every species on thisearth is in danger because of us

i guess we have a big enough brain compared to other animals to show compassion

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#5 BumFluff122
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because it's the law of nature. Aninmal rights activists are concerned about farm-bred cattle or animals.
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#6 sAndroid17
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worst train of thought ever!

although it is obviously some attempt to be funny/clever:| but it just fails

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#7 Hungry_Jello
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Because the balance of the ecosystem would be thrown off by a huge amount. Deer would over populate along with other animals like rodents.
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#8 peicher
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Because animals killing other animals is simply nature. Horrific cruelty inflicted upon poor, innocent, helpless creatures is exclusively a human endeavor, unfortunately.
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#9 montieman
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people care more about a cute puppy dying than a hog in the african plains or anything like that.
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#11 Norg
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Because animals killing other animals is simply nature. Horrific cruelty inflicted upon poor, innocent, helpless creatures is exclusively a human endeavor, unfortunately.peicher
well u can say we are animals has well and we kill cows for food ....... thats nature IMO
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#12 needled24-7
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Because that's how animals survive. It's part of nature. You can't interrupt the cycle of nature. When you do that, **** goes down.
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#13 Stranger_4
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There is a difference between killing a prey to survive and crushing a dog in a garbage truck while it is still alive. Sorry.Tezcatlipoca666
Brutally ******* mercilessly killing is ok, ripping your flesh while you are STILL ALIVE is ok, ripping apart an animal right infront of their helpless mother is ok, BUT giving an animal a quick death to relieve him off his misery is cruely.:lol::lol:

Oh God I am trully disappointed at the intelect of OT today.

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#14 DJ-Lafleur
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people care more about a cute puppy dying than a hog in the african plains or anything like that.montieman

Well, of course, dogs are cute, hogs are not.

if hogs want our attention, they should stop being gross. :roll::P

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#15 Stranger_4
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Because animals killing other animals is simply nature. Horrific cruelty inflicted upon poor, innocent, helpless creatures is exclusively a human endeavor, unfortunately.peicher
So what else should man do about those animals? If it cant afford to kepp them alive then what can it do? And heck what horrific cruelty, they are being given quick deaths!!
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]There is a difference between killing a prey to survive and crushing a dog in a garbage truck while it is still alive. Sorry.Stranger_4

Brutally ******* mercilessly killing is ok, ripping your flesh while you are STILL ALIVE is ok, ripping apart an animal right infront of their helpless mother is ok, BUT giving an animal a quick death to relieve him off his misery is cruely.:lol::lol:

Oh God I am trully disappointed at the intelect of OT today.

I think you really need to watch more human rights videos. Quick deaths? I had a friend who use to work in a slaughterhouse. They broke the chickens legs for fun. Also, do you know what 'bleeding out' is? IF you bleed a cow it makes it mroe fresh tasting. To bleed them out they hang them up by their hind legs, which usually breaks them, slit their throats and then let all the blood drain out of them. This is when they are still alive. (In the beginning at least). I laugh at your slow death hypothesis.
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#17 peicher
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[QUOTE="peicher"]Because animals killing other animals is simply nature. Horrific cruelty inflicted upon poor, innocent, helpless creatures is exclusively a human endeavor, unfortunately.Stranger_4
So what else should man do about those animals? If it cant afford to kepp them alive then what can it do? And heck what horrific cruelty, they are being given quick deaths!!

Quick deaths? Gas chambers that take up to 20 minutes...that's quick and merciful? Smashing dogs to death in the back of a garbage truck? That's about as horrific as it gets.

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#18 freshgman
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animals eat other animals. some people forget we are animals as well
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#19 montieman
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we are animals, just animals that need to feel self righteous
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#20 Stranger_4
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[QUOTE="Stranger_4"][QUOTE="peicher"]Because animals killing other animals is simply nature. Horrific cruelty inflicted upon poor, innocent, helpless creatures is exclusively a human endeavor, unfortunately.peicher

So what else should man do about those animals? If it cant afford to kepp them alive then what can it do? And heck what horrific cruelty, they are being given quick deaths!!

Quick deaths? Gas chambers that take up to 20 minutes...that's quick and merciful? Smashing dogs to death in the back of a garbage truck? That's about as horrific as it gets.

So a natural death is a walk in the park I guess? Or maybe you forget that they eventually have to suffer it.:roll:

If the animal is left homeless to be starved I guess it will die a less painful death.:roll:

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#21 Witch24
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[QUOTE="Stranger_4"]

Apparantly man cares so much about animals, I dont understand why doesnt it kill all lions, wild dogs, tigers etc who kill other animals so brutally and mercilessly???

I mean I was watching some hyenas eating a deer alive and they were ripping flesh while it was alive.:?

Now all those people who get all so sensitive about animal creulty, why da **** do you not have a problem with that?:roll:

Why should mankind give a damn about species who only give pain and torture to others????

They do it for living, and they only have teeth and claws to kill their prey with, not guns like us :P Lets say we kill all the cats for saving the poor mice, it will lead to a overpopultaion of mice/ rats. Think what that could bring us... Look at the human race, no natural enemi, so many have that starving for other shall living. The mightist humans get the food, the poor get the sickness. Most humen dosent like to share. Well, human is the only animal who who feel pleasure on torture other biengs, a man throwing acid in is wife face for keeping his honor, boys throw kitten in a fire and laughing. Even human with high level of knowledge use torture. Use the searchword Unit 731 on youtube, some of the videos is really disturbing....
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Without biodiversity life becomes extinct.
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Killing an animal for sustenance is far different than pouring lighter fluid on it, then striking a flame to it and laughing while it burns to death.
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#24 Stranger_4
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Killing an animal for sustenance is far different than pouring lighter fluid on it, then striking a flame to it and laughing while it burns to death.foxhound_fox
Why take it to the extreme, I never said that it is OK to do that with an animal just for fun.

And I am not even saying that we should kill all meat eating wild animals, the point is basically that over-sensitive people about animal cruelty really need to stop kidding themselves..

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#25 foxhound_fox
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Why take it to the extreme, I never said that it is OK to do that with an animal just for fun.

And I am not even saying that we should kill all meat eating wild animals, the point is basically that over-sensitive people about animal cruelty really need to stop kidding themselves..

Stranger_4

There is a reason to be sensitive over animal cruelty... its cruel. Shooting a deer in the heart and having it die a quick death is not cruel. Torturing a helpless animal for entertainment is.
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#26 bearbones
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Apparantly man cares so much about animals, I dont understand why doesnt it kill all lions, wild dogs, tigers etc who kill other animals so brutally and mercilessly???

I mean I was watching some hyenas eating a deer alive and they were ripping flesh while it was alive.:?

Now all those people who get all so sensitive about animal creulty, why da **** do you not have a problem with that?:roll:

Why should mankind give a damn about species who only give pain and torture to others????

Stranger_4
You gotta be ****ing kidding me.
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Oh God I am trully disappointed at the intelect of OT today.

Stranger_4

I'm adding you to my list of people who may or may not be trolls (along with Vilot_Hero).

Anyway to answer your question I will say that mother nature is a cruel mistress. This isn't some garden of Eden bull**** where dinosaurs and lions and cattle live together in harmony and are vegetarian, this is ****ing reality. Animals eat each other to survive and we're no different in that respect.

We are different in one respect though and that is that we have something that Daniel Dennet calls second order intentionality and that means that we are capable of holding beliefs about the mental states of other organisms. If an animal is in pain then it certainly knows about it, that's first order intentionality. But to know that someone else is in pain, to be sympathetic towards another person's mental state, requires higher brain function that seems to be present only in humans. When a pack of hyenas feast on a deer they are simply not aware of the pain that they are causing and as a result we cannot expect them to have mercy. Humans however are held to a higher standard then that hence why we call painfully killing an animal "inhumane".

Don't expect non-human animals to act with humanity.

The idea to kill off every predator is, to be blunt, an extremely bad one. It would **** up the ecosystem to no end not to mention that causing extinction of species is another thing that is generally agreed upon to be "inhumane" Stranger how old are you?

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Balance, my friend.
Not saying much, because this is probably a joke thread.
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#29 KG86
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There are a lot of carnivores in the world, trying to kill them all would be tiring.
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The prey animals would be allowed to multiply endlessly, destroying their environments and completely destabilizing the ecosystem? Perhaps ultimately leading to the end of all life on earth?

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Apparantly man cares so much about animals, I dont understand why doesnt it kill all lions, wild dogs, tigers etc who kill other animals so brutally and mercilessly???

I mean I was watching some hyenas eating a deer alive and they were ripping flesh while it was alive.:?

Now all those people who get all so sensitive about animal creulty, why da **** do you not have a problem with that?:roll:

Why should mankind give a damn about species who only give pain and torture to others????

Stranger_4
I don't particularly like watching that sort of thing in nature programmes, but that doesn't mean I think lions should be killed. I like animals as much as the next person, but I'm not going to stop eating meat, and I'm not going to stop lions eating it either.
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#32 Master_Sandall
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well, it would be a waste of time to kill all meat eating animals.
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The prey animals would be allowed to multiply endlessly, destroying their environments and completely destabilizing the ecosystem? Perhaps ultimately leading to the end of all life on earth?

ThePlothole


Unlikely, yet that doesn't mean things wouldn't get messed up pretty bad.
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there's a purpose for every single species and creature... killing certain animals will off set the balance of the world.
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If you had the decision to bash someone to death with a stick, compared to shooting them once in the head. What would you choose? The same applies to animals, if you had the decision to kill 20 dogs with 20 quick and painless syringes, or to dump them onto a truck to escort them to a factory which has a gas chamber so they can be killed over a period of 20 minutes. What would you choose? Of course money and time would be a huge factor in my second question, but if you had a choice you would obviously choose the painless death unless you happen to be sick in the head. Now the difference between a wild animal eating another animal alive to survive, and a dog being killed over a period of 20 minutes is that the dog's death "could" done painlessly. But you seem to think that it's wrong for people to hope that there is another way for that dog to die, and that you should not care for it unless you contribute directly. Why? I'm more or less asking this after the comments you said on that other topic with the animal cruelty video; basically saying that you laugh at people who think that it's wrong for animals to have no hope but to die with great pain because it's easier.
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Killing off all carnivorous animals would disrupt the delicate balance of life within the ecosystem. With no predators, there will be a large influx of herbavors that'll eat every last plant out there. This would cause drought within the region and less cleansed air, causing millions of deaths for both humans and said animals alike.

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If you had the decision to bash someone to death with a stick, compared to shooting them once in the head. What would you choose? The same applies to animals, if you had the decision to kill 20 dogs with 20 quick and painless syringes, or to dump them onto a truck to escort them to a factory which has a gas chamber so they can be killed over a period of 20 minutes. What would you choose? Of course money and time would be a huge factor in my second question, but if you had a choice you would obviously choose the painless death unless you happen to be sick in the head. Now the difference between a wild animal eating another animal alive to survive, and a dog being killed over a period of 20 minutes is that the dog's death "could" done painlessly. But you seem to think that it's wrong for people to hope that there is another way for that dog to die, and that you should not care for it unless you contribute directly. Why? I'm more or less asking this after the comments you said on that other topic with the animal cruelty video; basically saying that you laugh at people who think that it's wrong for animals to have no hope but to die with great pain because it's easier.Faber_Fighter
The cant afford that drug, what da **** do they do?? It's not like they are intentionally doing it the more painful way, what ******* part is not understandable here?:|

And I think that video said that the drug is in short supply and it seemed like it's needed for some human medicine as well..

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Read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn.
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Read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn.nadrojneerg
I totally agree. Everyone should read this.
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#40 intheshad0ws
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Uhhh no.... they kill for food. They don't just run around ripping dear apart.

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[QUOTE="nadrojneerg"]Read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn.gobo212
I totally agree. Everyone should read this.

In fact it is available online.
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[QUOTE="Stranger_4"][QUOTE="peicher"]

So what else should man do about those animals? If it cant afford to kepp them alive then what can it do? And heck what horrific cruelty, they are being given quick deaths!!Stranger_4

Quick deaths? Gas chambers that take up to 20 minutes...that's quick and merciful? Smashing dogs to death in the back of a garbage truck? That's about as horrific as it gets.

So a natural death is a walk in the park I guess? Or maybe you forget that they eventually have to suffer it.:roll:

If the animal is left homeless to be starved I guess it will die a less painful death.:roll:

why are you trying to condone the killing of a dog in a garbage truck? Killing animals to eat is nature but killing animals for amusement goes under the catagory of evil
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]There is a difference between killing a prey to survive and crushing a dog in a garbage truck while it is still alive. Sorry.Stranger_4

Brutally ******* mercilessly killing is ok, ripping your flesh while you are STILL ALIVE is ok, ripping apart an animal right infront of their helpless mother is ok, BUT giving an animal a quick death to relieve him off his misery is cruely.:lol::lol:

Oh God I am trully disappointed at the intelect of OT today.

wow he said the exact opposite of what you just said
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because if we did then the plant eaters will be over poulated and quicly exaust their food suplies and starve, then were all done for, no food and no oxygen = no animals
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They have to hunt to survive.
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I'm like rambo i hunt for food.
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I am human, I are win, I eat animal.
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Apparantly man cares so much about animals, I dont understand why doesnt it kill all lions, wild dogs, tigers etc who kill other animals so brutally and mercilessly???

I mean I was watching some hyenas eating a deer alive and they were ripping flesh while it was alive.:?

Now all those people who get all so sensitive about animal creulty, why da **** do you not have a problem with that?:roll:

Why should mankind give a damn about species who only give pain and torture to others????

Stranger_4

big difference.... wild animal are doing it for survival... as for some sick twisted puck... hurting cats or any animal for enjoyment.. is wrong!

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#49 Ontain
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Apparantly man cares so much about animals, I dont understand why doesnt it kill all lions, wild dogs, tigers etc who kill other animals so brutally and mercilessly???

I mean I was watching some hyenas eating a deer alive and they were ripping flesh while it was alive.:?

Now all those people who get all so sensitive about animal creulty, why da **** do you not have a problem with that?:roll:

Why should mankind give a damn about species who only give pain and torture to others????

Stranger_4
there's a thing called an ecosystem. the animal cruelty that man puts on animals through dog fights and fur isn't part of an ecosystem. the lion that kills a gazelle is.
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#50 dirtyd100
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Because that's just nature.