Why don't christians call their god by his name?

[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]

[QUOTE="cs45F"] Jesus is the son of god.........HipYoungster42

They aren't the same thing.

God is just that: God.

Jesus was 100% human being.

And the Holy Ghost... not sure 'bout that one.:P

[QUOTE="Setsa"] Link me to a thread where you've discussed the effect of the media and such on an individual, and I'll eat my words ;) Until then, you're just crafting a scapegoat of sorts. There are always people bashing religion in today's society. "Christianity shoves idiotic ideals down our throats. Islam bombs buildings. Hinduism believes in an elephant god that loves milk lawl!" How often does society take a step back and analyze themselves? I have no problem with someone stating they dislike religion or its ideologies (though it's weird to lump all religions in such a broad category...), but it's when people refuse to look at the other "vices" in society that stupidity ensues.import_fighter1

lol Sorry. I didn't understand a word you just said.:P

By the way, I'm a Unificationist.;)

HipYoungster42

lol, I see we have a common stance on one another's views. (aka, completely clueless) :P

[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]

[QUOTE="cs45F"] Jesus is the son of god.........HipYoungster42

They aren't the same thing.

God is just that: God.

Jesus was 100% human being.

And the Holy Ghost... not sure 'bout that one.:P

[QUOTE="HipYoungster42"]

[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]Yes. Anyway, from what I understand, the trinity is the God, the Son and the Holy Ghost, and they are all one. If this is hard to imagine think of the state of water: Solid, Liquid, and Gas.

LJS9502_basic

They aren't the same thing.

God is just that: God.

Jesus was 100% human being.

And the Holy Ghost... not sure 'bout that one.:P

[QUOTE="import_fighter1"][QUOTE="Setsa"] Link me to a thread where you've discussed the effect of the media and such on an individual, and I'll eat my words ;) Until then, you're just crafting a scapegoat of sorts. There are always people bashing religion in today's society. "Christianity shoves idiotic ideals down our throats. Islam bombs buildings. Hinduism believes in an elephant god that loves milk lawl!" How often does society take a step back and analyze themselves? I have no problem with someone stating they dislike religion or its ideologies (though it's weird to lump all religions in such a broad category...), but it's when people refuse to look at the other "vices" in society that stupidity ensues.Setsa

[QUOTE="cs45F"][QUOTE="zeppelin_64"]Christians God's name is Jesus, The Holy Spirit, and God, the Trinity. It's cause Christians don't call it "a" God, they call it "the" God.dark-warmachine

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="HipYoungster42"]

They aren't the same thing.

God is just that: God.

Jesus was 100% human being.

And the Holy Ghost... not sure 'bout that one.:P

Teenaged

[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]

[QUOTE="cs45F"] Jesus is the son of god.........pis3rch

@mindstorm: K' then. Glad we reached a common base.:P

@LJS9502_basic: Yes, Jesus was 100% human, whether or not the topic of this thread is religious.

@mindstorm: K' then. Glad we reached a common base.:P

@LJS9502_basic: Yes, Jesus was 100% human, whether or not the topic of this thread is religious.

HipYoungster42

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Considering this thread is religious in nature than whether you believe or not...Jesus was not 100% human.LJS9502_basic

(adding more words).

[QUOTE="import_fighter1"] Where did I say or single out religion as influence?Setsa

Yahweh was not the trinity up until jesus was "born". 2000 years ago. That's what I don't get about this trinity. He comes down as a human knowing what the results will be.. he sacrifices himself to save the world of sin yet nothing at all has changed in the way of sin. If fact I think the world has become more evil. What kind of a god is yahweh really? Has anyone else looked at it like yahweh is actually the evil one and lucifer got thrown away for disagreeing with him. If yahweh is the all powerful one look at all the evil and negative energy that is spread throughout the planet and always has been. If yahweh is the good guy and in control, things would be the exact opposite. There is so much hate and violence all throughout history. If yahweh is in control, he's not the good guy. If yahweh is the good god, he's not in control.import_fighter1

Tell me where I singled out religion. I specifically said everything we do we are influenced by. I started this thread asking why christians don't call their god by his name. We are currently talking about religion in this thread and that's why religion is being talked about..

I don't really think there is a "free will". We are all so influenced in every single thing we do from the time we are born. Every decision we make are based off those influences. I don't consider that "free will".

Tell me where I singled out religion. I specifically said everything we do we are influenced by. I started this thread asking why christians don't call their god by his name. We are currently talking about religion in this thread and that's why religion is being talked about..

import_fighter1

I don't really think there is a "free will". We are all so influenced in every single thing we do from the time we are born. Every decision we make are based off those influences. I don't consider that "free will".

import_fighter1

[QUOTE="zeppelin_64"]Christians God's name is Jesus, The Holy Spirit, and God, the Trinity. It's cause Christians don't call it "a" God, they call it "the" God.cs45F

Lucifer is an angle and the devil :roll:

[QUOTE="Setsa"][QUOTE="import_fighter1"] [QUOTE="import_fighter1"] Yahweh was not the trinity up until jesus was "born". 2000 years ago. That's what I don't get about this trinity. He comes down as a human knowing what the results will be.. he sacrifices himself to save the world of sin yet nothing at all has changed in the way of sin. If fact I think the world has become more evil. What kind of a god is yahweh really? Has anyone else looked at it like yahweh is actually the evil one and lucifer got thrown away for disagreeing with him. If yahweh is the all powerful one look at all the evil and negative energy that is spread throughout the planet and always has been. If yahweh is the good guy and in control, things would be the exact opposite. There is so much hate and violence all throughout history. If yahweh is in control, he's not the good guy. If yahweh is the good god, he's not in control.import_fighter1

Tell me where I singled out religion. I specifically said everything we do we are influenced by. I started this thread asking why christians don't call their god by his name. We are currently talking about religion in this thread and that's why religion is being talked about..

[QUOTE="import_fighter1"]

I don't really think there is a "free will". We are all so influenced in every single thing we do from the time we are born. Every decision we make are based off those influences. I don't consider that "free will".

If you also continue down the quote tree from which I got the last segment there, you continue to talk about "free will" and how it's so heavily influenced by one's past, albeit previously you were only discussing the religious affect on an individual, and hence why I jumped into the debate.Setsa

Tell me where I singled out religion. I specifically said everything we do we are influenced by. I started this thread asking why christians don't call their god by his name. We are currently talking about religion in this thread and that's why religion is being talked about..

[QUOTE="import_fighter1"]

I don't really think there is a "free will". We are all so influenced in every single thing we do from the time we are born. Every decision we make are based off those influences. I don't consider that "free will".

[QUOTE="import_fighter1"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Influence does NOT make you do certain actions. You DO have a choice. One must rise about influences that they know are wrong. If they cave in to influence then they don't have strength of character....LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="import_fighter1"]

I don't really think there is a "free will". We are all so influenced in every single thing we do from the time we are born. Every decision we make are based off those influences. I don't consider that "free will".

import_fighter1

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"][QUOTE="dog64"]

But many Christians believe that god's name is Jesus.

Pirate700

jesus is god.

well apart of God

god is made up of three parts

the

father

son

holy spirit.

but all three are 1

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="import_fighter1"] I wasn't talking about only wrong influences and I never said that. When we make the right choices we are going off influences also. That's why I said EVERY decision we make are based on influences.import_fighter1

Lucifer is an angle and the devil :roll:

L8erSquare

Lucifer is a fallen angel.

I bet most Christians don't even know what their God's name is. I'm just really curious why this is. I hear from christians calling all other gods names like lucifer, etc. but never mention or even know their own god's name and just use the term god.

import_fighter1

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"] I thought they were separate entities?BlackTragedy

jesus is god.

well apart of God

god is made up of three parts

the

father

son

holy spirit.

but all three are 1

[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]They are. Jesus is supposed to be God's son. Not god.

Penguinchow

jesus is god.

well apart of God

god is made up of three parts

the

father

son

holy spirit.

but all three are 1

Perhaps that's what you believe, but its not what all Christians believe. Jehovas Witnesses, Adoptionists and Oneness Pentacostals (to name but a few Christian groups) don't believe in the Trinity.

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"][QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

jesus is god.

well apart of God

god is made up of three parts

the

father

son

holy spirit.

but all three are 1

RationalAtheist

Perhaps that's what you believe, but its not what all Christians believe. Jehovas Witnesses, Adoptionists and Oneness Pentacostals (to name but a few Christian groups) don't believe in the Trinity.

:roll: I was only speaking for my beliefs. Jehovas Witnesses, by the way, is not a branch of christianity, but a cult. Adoptionists are also not truely considered a branch of the christian faith either as their beliefs are too far removed from the basis that christianity is formed on. I for one don't subscribe to any denomenation as I have my own beliefs and refuse to have a denomenation tell me what is true and what is not. Christianity SHOULD, in my opinion, be a much more individual thing than it is.

Perhaps that's what you believe, but its not what all Christians believe. Jehovas Witnesses, Adoptionists and Oneness Pentacostals (to name but a few Christian groups) don't believe in the Trinity.

RationalAtheist

I bet most Christians don't even know what their God's name is. I'm just really curious why this is. I hear from christians calling all other gods names like lucifer, etc. but never mention or even know their own god's name and just use the term god.

import_fighter1

I do. It's Kanye.

I think people are purposely being confused. Look how many christians all believe different things about this same god. Many of these differences are very drastic and total opposites of others. Stories are usually pretty straight on all the other gods but it seems with christians yahweh there are hundreds of different versions. You go to any christian and i'll bet not one of them believe the same or answer the question with same answers.import_fighter1

[QUOTE="zeppelin_64"]Christians God's name is Jesus, The Holy Spirit, and God, the Trinity. It's cause Christians don't call it "a" God, they call it "the" God.Pirate700

[QUOTE="import_fighter1"]I think people are purposely being confused. Look how many christians all believe different things about this same god. Many of these differences are very drastic and total opposites of others. Stories are usually pretty straight on all the other gods but it seems with christians yahweh there are hundreds of different versions. You go to any christian and i'll bet not one of them believe the same or answer the question with same answers.chopperdave447

[QUOTE="supa_badman"]3 Different people, same person.dog64

That's contradictory. A person is one human, and people are more than one human (or beings). You can't have three people being one person.

And if Jesus was god, why would he have to pray at all?

I use either God or Jesus.

[QUOTE="RationalAtheist"]

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"] This. In the same way that water has three forms, solid, liquid, and gas. They are all God just in different forms.Penguinchow

Perhaps that's what you believe, but its not what all Christians believe. Jehovas Witnesses, Adoptionists and Oneness Pentacostals (to name but a few Christian groups) don't believe in the Trinity.

:roll: I was only speaking for my beliefs. Jehovas Witnesses, by the way, is not a branch of christianity, but a cult. Adoptionists are also not truely considered a branch of the christian faith either as their beliefs are too far removed from the basis that christianity is formed on. I for one don't subscribe to any denomenation as I have my own beliefs and refuse to have a denomenation tell me what is true and what is not. Christianity SHOULD, in my opinion, be a much more individual thing than it is.

I love it how Christians get all bent out of shape when someone calls into question their own beliefs, but then turn around and completely discredit other sects of Christianity by calling them cults or saying that their beliefs aren't true to Christianity.

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]

[QUOTE="RationalAtheist"]

Perhaps that's what you believe, but its not what all Christians believe. Jehovas Witnesses, Adoptionists and Oneness Pentacostals (to name but a few Christian groups) don't believe in the Trinity.

theone86

:roll: I was only speaking for my beliefs. Jehovas Witnesses, by the way, is not a branch of christianity, but a cult. Adoptionists are also not truely considered a branch of the christian faith either as their beliefs are too far removed from the basis that christianity is formed on. I for one don't subscribe to any denomenation as I have my own beliefs and refuse to have a denomenation tell me what is true and what is not. Christianity SHOULD, in my opinion, be a much more individual thing than it is.

I love it how Christians get all bent out of shape when someone calls into question their own beliefs, but then turn around and completely discredit other sects of Christianity by calling them cults or saying that their beliefs aren't true to Christianity.

I see this all the time. Then just like the poster above that I replied to says christianity is the most uniform.. you can't go up to 2 separate christians and ask them questens and get the same answer. That's not uniform at all to me.

Because it gives the impression that it is "The God" not "a God" redwolf22

Most Christians don't even know the history about Jehova much less his name. They easily put their whole faith into Jehova but know nothing about him. Most teachings anymore just teach of the new testament now and it never used to be like that. I think this is being done on purpose. Christianity keeps changing more and more over its years of existence. Christians are so split on what to even believe and they add in their own perks for benefit that their sect may not even practice.

[QUOTE="RationalAtheist"]

Perhaps that's what you believe, but its not what all Christians believe. Jehovas Witnesses, Adoptionists and Oneness Pentacostals (to name but a few Christian groups) don't believe in the Trinity.

Penguinchow

:roll: I was only speaking for my beliefs. Jehovas Witnesses, by the way, is not a branch of christianity, but a cult. Adoptionists are also not truely considered a branch of the christian faith either as their beliefs are too far removed from the basis that christianity is formed on. I for one don't subscribe to any denomenation as I have my own beliefs and refuse to have a denomenation tell me what is true and what is not. Christianity SHOULD, in my opinion, be a much more individual thing than it is.

JWs are a BIG cult! 12 million adherents (but only 144,000 will be saved, apparently)! Don't Adoptiopnists follow the works of Christ too? What about all the other Christian groups (or religions based on Christ)?

Are you a mix and match Christian, cherry picking all the best bits you like from your faith, while ignoring all those rhinos in the corner?

Its called western arrogance. We believe our Christian god is the one and only true god.

Why don't we refer to the Earth by its real name, the moon, the Sun or the Solar system? Human arrogance.

Jehovas Witnesses, by the way, is not a branch of christianity, but a cult. more individual thing than it is.

Penguinchow

Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians. They believe in Jesus and all that, they just don't believe that Jesus is god, and some other Christians have the same belief. JW's believe they are the "true" Christians.