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#51 Jimn_tonic
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[QUOTE="Jimn_tonic"]

[QUOTE="cheese_game619"] prove itk--m--k

When i was 6, i didn't play doctor with the girl next door because i wanted to be one.

and i hadno interest of playing the game with dudes.

my sexuality was being defined while i was still laughing at the word, and so are most peoples.

there you go everyone, the scientific prove that sexual orientation is not a choice, Jim_tonic disinterest in playing with dudes is what we needed all that time. 

you do realize "playing doctor" is a game kids play soley to touch eachother right?

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#52 k--m--k
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[QUOTE="k--m--k"]

[QUOTE="Jimn_tonic"]

When i was 6, i didn't play doctor with the girl next door because i wanted to be one.

and i hadno interest of playing the game with dudes.

my sexuality was being defined while i was still laughing at the word, and so are most peoples.

Jimn_tonic

there you go everyone, the scientific prove that sexual orientation is not a choice, Jim_tonic disinterest in playing with dudes is what we needed all that time. 

you do realize "playing doctor" is a game kids play soley to touch eachother right?

because at the age of 6, you totally have sexual interest about the other sex, right?

actually no, they play doctor to act like doctors, I dont know what type of 6 years olds you hang with, but they aint normal if they all wanted to touch each other 

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#53 ShadowJax04
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Of course everyone should accept homosexuality. No need to get worked up over another human's sexual orientation unless you are concerned the ghey will make our whole race extinct over time. For one I don't so I do not care. *And I won't live to see it.

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#54 nomsayin
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Okay. 

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#55 Jimn_tonic
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because at the age of 6, you totally have sexual interest about the other sex, right?

actually no, they play doctor to act like doctors, I dont know what type of 6 years olds you hang with, but they aint normal if they all wanted to touch each other 

k--m--k

"Playing doctor is considered by most child psychologists to be a normal step in childhood sexual development between the ages of approximately three and six years, so long as all parties are willing participants and relatively close in age."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playing_doctor

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#56 LordQuorthon
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they play doctor to act like doctors

k--m--k

Wow! That was so monumentally stupid I don't even know what to say. 

 

 

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#57 PannicAtack
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If sexual orientation were a choice, most people would "choose" to be straight simply because it's easier to get by. Somehow that doesn't happen, and I've never heard a decent explanation for why the terrified kid in the closet doesn't simply go "I choose to be straight" and suddenly not have a problem.
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#58 whipassmt
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[QUOTE="cheese_game619"][QUOTE="Pffrbt"] prove it [QUOTE="Pffrbt"]smoking is a choice. Sexual orientation is not.jbc7343

prove it

My god you're an idiot. Why don't you prove it to the contrary? Oh wait ... you can't. You can only ask others to prove what you're too narrow minded to just let be. But I suppose I'll indulge you and prove you wrong ... here.

That link is by the American Psychological Assocation.

Let's see here ...

"Many think nature and nurture both play complex roles: most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation."

"No, lesbian, gay, and bisexual orientations are not disorders."

Hmm ... I think that should be adequate proof. However, do I think this will satisfy you? No. because like I said, you're too narrow minded to even belief proof that someone submitted. You're like the rest of the backwoods, bible huggers that live near me ... uneducated and painfully discriminatory. Let's get an education and then perhaps your beliefs and perceptions will change.

The American Psychological Association could be wrong.

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You think homosexuality is gross and "wrong"? Fine I am not asking you to change that opinion. However it is simply a fact that some people are just not attracted to the opposite sex if you dont believe that then you can walk out the thread before I continue.

Imagine your best friend is a gay but you dont know that? Not that I wont be close friends with a gay but it certainly changes the context and limitations of the friendship and I would definitely like to know that.

Imagine a girl you are chasing is actually a gay?

None of this is going to happen in a world where gays are openly accepted for what they are. To think that there are possibly some people in my life who are homosexual but dont reveal themselves out of fear is quite disturbing.

So see its not even about human rights and all, its just basic logic that everyone benefits in a world where gays are not afraid to call themselves homosexual.

Gambler_3

anyone else find it odd that people often say of homosexual persons that they are being "what they are" or "who they are", but why should we consider their homosexuality "who they are", it is not the essence of them, it is just an aspect, a characteristic, like height or weight.

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#61 ShadowJax04
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

You think homosexuality is gross and "wrong"? Fine I am not asking you to change that opinion. However it is simply a fact that some people are just not attracted to the opposite sex if you dont believe that then you can walk out the thread before I continue.

Imagine your best friend is a gay but you dont know that? Not that I wont be close friends with a gay but it certainly changes the context and limitations of the friendship and I would definitely like to know that.

Imagine a girl you are chasing is actually a gay?

None of this is going to happen in a world where gays are openly accepted for what they are. To think that there are possibly some people in my life who are homosexual but dont reveal themselves out of fear is quite disturbing.

So see its not even about human rights and all, its just basic logic that everyone benefits in a world where gays are not afraid to call themselves homosexual.

whipassmt

anyone else find it odd that people often say of homosexual persons that they are being "what they are" or "who they are", but why should we consider their homosexuality "who they are", it is not the essence of them, it is just an aspect, a characteristic, like height or weight.

Being what you are =/= you are only one thing in essence. Saying being 6 foot is just being what you are are to a 6 foot guy is wrong is just arguing semantics.
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#62 coolbeans90
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I think OP is very young.

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#63 branketra
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You think homosexuality is gross and "wrong"? Fine I am not asking you to change that opinion. However it is simply a fact that some people are just not attracted to the opposite sex if you dont believe that then you can walk out the thread before I continue.

Imagine your best friend is a gay but you dont know that? Not that I wont be close friends with a gay but it certainly changes the context and limitations of the friendship and I would definitely like to know that.

Imagine a girl you are chasing is actually a gay?

None of this is going to happen in a world where gays are openly accepted for what they are. To think that there are possibly some people in my life who are homosexual but dont reveal themselves out of fear is quite disturbing.

So see its not even about human rights and all, its just basic logic that everyone benefits in a world where gays are not afraid to call themselves homosexual.

Gambler_3

Everyone does not got a best friend who is gay.Every girl chased is not secretly gay.

 If you want to use logic as the foundation of your argument for or against something, I suggest you make sure it is logical.

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#64 cheese_game619
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you do realize "playing doctor" is a game kids play soley to touch eachother right?Jimn_tonic
oh that was actually a serious response? lol yeah that wont hold up in court, buddy
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#65 FMAB_GTO
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Because if you expect people to accept you for who you are, you should accept them for what they are, simple! =]
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#66 Gambler_3
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Here is where I have a question. Why does it seem common for certain guys to believe that if you know someone who is gay that they would automatically fall for you? Do you find every girl attractive? If that answer is no, then why would it be true for the gay guy? I just find it weird that a lot of guys get uncomfortable around homosexuals, because all of a sudden they think they are going to be hit on by them. 

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Actually 80% of the girls I wouldnt mind banging with mutual consent. Ofcourse the percentage drops sharply when we talk about the girls I would be serious with.

WTF........friendship shouldn't be "limited"....and I don't think you know the difference between friendship and relationship.:|LJS9502_basic
There is a difference between "limitations" and "limited".........every friendship has limitations.

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#67 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

The concept of homosexuality itself I don't find gross. To me, they're (homosexuals) just people. It's what two dudes do behind closed doors that I find gross.

jun_aka_pekto

You're not alone in that I'm sure heh. I accept gay people, I think they should be able to get married and have all the rights that straight people do, but I find it really gross too. I hate seeing two dudes kiss on TV, and unfortunately it's getting more common lol. It's kinda similar in how I wouldn't want to see two 90 year olds, straight or not, go at it either.  It's just repulsive.

I have a similar view. Live and let live. However, the gross feeling for me is both psychological and physiological. No way around it. Two guys going at it simply doesn't compute for me. However, I seem to have no problems watching two women go at it. :lol:

I saw plenty of the latter the last time I visited Miami Beach/Key West.   

Yeah I see what you mean. I don't hate the people themselves, not at all. The act grosses me out, though.
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#68 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] WTF........friendship shouldn't be "limited"....and I don't think you know the difference between friendship and relationship.:|Gambler_3
There is a difference between "limitations" and "limited".........every friendship has limitations.

Then it's not a real friendship.....
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#69 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] WTF........friendship shouldn't be "limited"....and I don't think you know the difference between friendship and relationship.:|LJS9502_basic
There is a difference between "limitations" and "limited".........every friendship has limitations.

Then it's not a real friendship.....

lol ok.

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#70 dave123321
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why would this bring limitations of the friendship. What kind of limitations?
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Why are those reasons to accept gay people?

Shouldn't you accept them simply because it has no negative effects on anyone and oppressing people is morally wrong? 

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#72 Gambler_3
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why would this bring limitations of the friendship. What kind of limitations?dave123321
I have already explained. It brings both pros and cons btw not just cons.

Why are those reasons to accept gay people?

Shouldn't you accept them simply because it has no negative effects on anyone and oppressing people is morally wrong? 

toast_burner

Ofcourse I agree with that but I am trying to reason with selfish intolerant people that it is still in their benefit to accept different sexual orientation.

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#74 Angie7F
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I think OP is very young.

coolbeans90

 

This. 

But I agree. It is one thing to understand it as a concept, and another to have people that matter toyou to come out as being gay.

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[QUOTE="dave123321"]why would this bring limitations of the friendship. What kind of limitations?Gambler_3

I have already explained. It brings both pros and cons btw not just cons.

Why are those reasons to accept gay people?

Shouldn't you accept them simply because it has no negative effects on anyone and oppressing people is morally wrong? 

toast_burner

Ofcourse I agree with that but I am trying to reason with selfish intolerant people that it is still in their benefit to accept different sexual orientation.

What kinds of pros and cons?
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#76 Gambler_3
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What kinds of pros and cons?dave123321
Read the thread please. Basically a male gay friend is quite like a female friend you are not interested in romantically. The context of both friendships will be similar.

Do you even agree that friendship with males and females have different context and limitations?

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#77 dave123321
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Just seems childish
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Just seems childishdave123321
There is nothing childish about it. Just like a male and female are not the same, a straight and homosexual male are not the same.

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#79 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]Just seems childishGambler_3

There is nothing childish about it. Just like a male and female are not the same, a straight and homosexual male are not the same.

Other than one sleeps with the same sex and the other sleeps with the opposite, what's the difference?

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#80 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Just seems childishtoast_burner

There is nothing childish about it. Just like a male and female are not the same, a straight and homosexual male are not the same.

Other than one sleeps with the same sex and the other sleeps with the opposite, what's the difference?

What is the difference between male and female?

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#81 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]There is nothing childish about it. Just like a male and female are not the same, a straight and homosexual male are not the same.

Gambler_3

Other than one sleeps with the same sex and the other sleeps with the opposite, what's the difference?

What is the difference between male and female?

You're avoiding the question.

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#82 Pffrbt
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[QUOTE="Pffrbt"]

So are you saying you regularly sleep with your straight guy friends?

Gambler_3

Nope but I do when we go on vacations or when we do a night stay at a friends place.


And you couldn't do that with a gay friend why?

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#83 capaho
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You think homosexuality is gross and "wrong"? Fine I am not asking you to change that opinion. However it is simply a fact that some people are just not attracted to the opposite sex if you dont believe that then you can walk out the thread before I continue.

Imagine your best friend is a gay but you dont know that? Not that I wont be close friends with a gay but it certainly changes the context and limitations of the friendship and I would definitely like to know that.

Imagine a girl you are chasing is actually a gay?

None of this is going to happen in a world where gays are openly accepted for what they are. To think that there are possibly some people in my life who are homosexual but dont reveal themselves out of fear is quite disturbing.

So see its not even about human rights and all, its just basic logic that everyone benefits in a world where gays are not afraid to call themselves homosexual.

Gambler_3
I'm not really sure what the point of this thread is. Homosexuality is a natural human condition that has occurred since the beginning of time. Gay rights are human rights. Anyone who doesn't get that isn't going to listen to reason.
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#84 Gambler_3
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You're avoiding the question.

toast_burner

No you are avoiding the difference. ;)

And you couldn't do that with a gay friend why?

Pffrbt

Just like a female wouldn't sleep with a male friend.

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#85 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

You're avoiding the question.

Gambler_3

No you are avoiding the difference. ;)

And you couldn't do that with a gay friend why?

Pffrbt

Just like a female wouldn't sleep with a male friend.

Female friends can and do sleep with male friends. Who said they can't?

You're the one claiming gays and straights are different, so why can't you give an example of their differences? 

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#86 Gambler_3
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Female friends can and do sleep with male friends. Who said they can't?

You're the one claiming gays and straights are different, so why can't you give an example of their differences? 

toast_burner

No male and female "friends" dont sleep on the same bed.

The difference is obvious male gays are attracted to males and straights are not.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Female friends can and do sleep with male friends. Who said they can't?

You're the one claiming gays and straights are different, so why can't you give an example of their differences? 

Gambler_3

No male and female "friends" dont sleep on the same bed.

The difference is obvious male gays are attracted to males and straights are not.

I've slept in the same bed with females quite a few times. So obviously you're wrong.

And what difference does it make if they sleep with people of the same sex? It's not like you're going to be sleeping with them and I doubt all you ever talk about is sex. So it shouldn't make any difference what so ever. 

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#88 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Female friends can and do sleep with male friends. Who said they can't?

You're the one claiming gays and straights are different, so why can't you give an example of their differences? 

toast_burner

No male and female "friends" dont sleep on the same bed.

The difference is obvious male gays are attracted to males and straights are not.

I've slept in the same bed with females quite a few times. So obviously you're wrong.

And what difference does it make if they sleep with people of the same sex? It's not like you're going to be sleeping with them and I doubt all you ever talk about is sex. So it shouldn't make any difference what so ever. 

It doesnt happen in my society and I dont find the idea of male and female friends sleeping on the same bed to be good. You are entitled to your opinion.

The idea that a male friend of yours could potentially get aroused by something you do is not very pleasant you know. But gays cannot understand this problem obviously.

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there is literally nothing in the world i care less about than your genitalia and what you do with it.

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is confirmed gambler_3 wants my D. its okay lil buddy ill be your top bunk; but you need to show me yours first ;)

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It doesnt happen in my society and I dont find the idea of male and female friends sleeping on the same bed to be good. You are entitled to your opinion.

The idea that a male friend of yours could potentially get aroused by something you do is not very pleasant you know. But gays cannot understand this problem obviously.

Gambler_3
What is so wrong with male and female friends sleeping on the same bed? When I've been at parties and things in the past and there was nowhere else to sleep it is the norm generally to share a guest room. Nothing is going to happen if you're both just friends :\ And that same thing applies to a straight guy and his gay friend, it is pretty arrogant of you to assume that he fancies you or finds you sexually attractive just because he's gay and you're friends, sleeping in the same room together doesn't automatically make you be in a relation with each other at any time.
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#92 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]It doesnt happen in my society and I dont find the idea of male and female friends sleeping on the same bed to be good. You are entitled to your opinion.

The idea that a male friend of yours could potentially get aroused by something you do is not very pleasant you know. But gays cannot understand this problem obviously.

MissLibrarian

What is so wrong with male and female friends sleeping on the same bed? When I've been at parties and things in the past and there was nowhere else to sleep it is the norm generally to share a guest room. Nothing is going to happen if you're both just friends :\ And that same thing applies to a straight guy and his gay friend, it is pretty arrogant of you to assume that he fancies you or finds you sexually attractive just because he's gay and you're friends, sleeping in the same room together doesn't automatically make you be in a relation with each other at any time.

Its a matter of different culture then.

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#93 ionusX
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]It doesnt happen in my society and I dont find the idea of male and female friends sleeping on the same bed to be good. You are entitled to your opinion.

The idea that a male friend of yours could potentially get aroused by something you do is not very pleasant you know. But gays cannot understand this problem obviously.

MissLibrarian

What is so wrong with male and female friends sleeping on the same bed? When I've been at parties and things in the past and there was nowhere else to sleep it is the norm generally to share a guest room. Nothing is going to happen if you're both just friends :\ And that same thing applies to a straight guy and his gay friend, it is pretty arrogant of you to assume that he fancies you or finds you sexually attractive just because he's gay and you're friends, sleeping in the same room together doesn't automatically make you be in a relation with each other at any time.

the above being said its completely normal to be attracted to a friend sometimes. i has a mad crush on this italian friend of mine. id so get him alone if he got curious

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#94 MissLibrarian
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Its a matter of different culture then.Gambler_3
Would I be wrong in assuming that Christianity is a strong cornerstone of your local community?
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#95 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]Its a matter of different culture then.MissLibrarian
Would I be wrong in assuming that Christianity is a strong cornerstone of your local community?

Nope Islam is.

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#96 MissLibrarian
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Nope Islam is.Gambler_3
Ah I see, I should have said 'a religion' rather than assuming, my bad. I think it's rather cool though that you are fighting for homosexual rights ITT then.
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#97 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]It doesnt happen in my society and I dont find the idea of male and female friends sleeping on the same bed to be good. You are entitled to your opinion.

The idea that a male friend of yours could potentially get aroused by something you do is not very pleasant you know. But gays cannot understand this problem obviously.

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What is so wrong with male and female friends sleeping on the same bed? When I've been at parties and things in the past and there was nowhere else to sleep it is the norm generally to share a guest room. Nothing is going to happen if you're both just friends :\ And that same thing applies to a straight guy and his gay friend, it is pretty arrogant of you to assume that he fancies you or finds you sexually attractive just because he's gay and you're friends, sleeping in the same room together doesn't automatically make you be in a relation with each other at any time.

I've slept with other gay guys without doing anything sexual with them and some of them were attractive.

FFS gambler, get a grip. No one's gonna rape you while you sleep.

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#98 ionusX
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[QUOTE="MissLibrarian"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]It doesnt happen in my society and I dont find the idea of male and female friends sleeping on the same bed to be good. You are entitled to your opinion.

The idea that a male friend of yours could potentially get aroused by something you do is not very pleasant you know. But gays cannot understand this problem obviously.

Teenaged

What is so wrong with male and female friends sleeping on the same bed? When I've been at parties and things in the past and there was nowhere else to sleep it is the norm generally to share a guest room. Nothing is going to happen if you're both just friends :\ And that same thing applies to a straight guy and his gay friend, it is pretty arrogant of you to assume that he fancies you or finds you sexually attractive just because he's gay and you're friends, sleeping in the same room together doesn't automatically make you be in a relation with each other at any time.

I've slept with other gay guys without doing anything sexual with them and some of them were attractive.

FFS gambler, get a grip. No one's gonna rape you while you sleep.

indeed, i think he is homophobic. we should put this to a vote.. duct tape him to a chair and carry him in a pride parade as a prisoner??

 i vote for

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#99 ThaneKrios28
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You think homosexuality is gross and "wrong"? Fine I am not asking you to change that opinion. However it is simply a fact that some people are just not attracted to the opposite sex if you dont believe that then you can walk out the thread before I continue.

Imagine your best friend is a gay but you dont know that? Not that I wont be close friends with a gay but it certainly changes the context and limitations of the friendship and I would definitely like to know that.

Imagine a girl you are chasing is actually a gay?

None of this is going to happen in a world where gays are openly accepted for what they are. To think that there are possibly some people in my life who are homosexual but dont reveal themselves out of fear is quite disturbing.

So see its not even about human rights and all, its just basic logic that everyone benefits in a world where gays are not afraid to call themselves homosexual.

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i personally dont care what people do in there personal lives as long as its legal . dont bug me i dont bug you its that simple
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#100 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Female friends can and do sleep with male friends. Who said they can't?

You're the one claiming gays and straights are different, so why can't you give an example of their differences? 

Gambler_3

No male and female "friends" dont sleep on the same bed.

The difference is obvious male gays are attracted to males and straights are not.

Homophobic much?