I don't want to extend my argument because, because like I said, I have two gay friends and I'm not a homophobe. However, AIDS through blood transfusions is extremely rare, and there are methods to prevent mother-to-infant infections (though it's obviously still possible).

^ I agree that is probably inflating the number, but I am correct regardless.

GamerForca

Why the hell does it matter if there is a higher rate of infection among homosexuals? This has nothing to do with homosexuals being bad people, as you claimed in a previous post. The idea that disease is linked to sin belongs in an entirely different millenia.

Oh, no. Not again.:cry:Dracargen

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]Oh, no. Not again.:cry:Mr_sprinkles

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]

AIDS Isn't a gay disease'; the vast majority of AIDS infections come from blood transfusions, sharing needles, and transferring from mother to child during child birth.

GamerForca

I don't want to extend my argument because, because like I said, I have two gay friends and I'm not a homophobe. However, AIDS through blood transfusions is extremely rare, and there are methods to prevent mother-to-infant infections (though it's obviously still possible).

^ I agree that is probably inflating the number, but I am correct regardless.

[QUOTE="GamerForca"]I don't want to extend my argument because, because like I said, I have two gay friends and I'm not a homophobe. However, AIDS through blood transfusions is extremely rare, and there are methods to prevent mother-to-infant infections (though it's obviously still possible).

^ I agree that is probably inflating the number, but I am correct regardless.

Junkie_man

Why the hell does it matter if there is a higher rate of infection among homosexuals? This has nothing to do with homosexuals being bad people, as you claimed in a previous post. The idea that disease is linked to sin belongs in an entirely different millenia.

First of all, I want you people to understand that I don't think homosexuals are bad people (this guy is just trying to stuff words in my mouth). Most just act terribly and have sex with many "partners" leading to AIDS. If most do it out of marriage, they'll still do it in marriage. That's my opinion, and I'm entitled to it.

[QUOTE="Junkie_man"][QUOTE="GamerForca"]I don't want to extend my argument because, because like I said, I have two gay friends and I'm not a homophobe. However, AIDS through blood transfusions is extremely rare, and there are methods to prevent mother-to-infant infections (though it's obviously still possible).

^ I agree that is probably inflating the number, but I am correct regardless.

GamerForca

Why the hell does it matter if there is a higher rate of infection among homosexuals? This has nothing to do with homosexuals being bad people, as you claimed in a previous post. The idea that disease is linked to sin belongs in an entirely different millenia.

First of all, I want you people to understand that I don't think homosexuals are bad people (this guy is just trying to stuff words in my mouth). Most just act terribly and have sex with many "partners" leading to AIDS. If most do it out of marriage, they'll still do it in marriage. That's my opinion, and I'm entitled to it.

[QUOTE="Junkie_man"][QUOTE="GamerForca"]I don't want to extend my argument because, because like I said, I have two gay friends and I'm not a homophobe. However, AIDS through blood transfusions is extremely rare, and there are methods to prevent mother-to-infant infections (though it's obviously still possible).

^ I agree that is probably inflating the number, but I am correct regardless.

GamerForca

Why the hell does it matter if there is a higher rate of infection among homosexuals? This has nothing to do with homosexuals being bad people, as you claimed in a previous post. The idea that disease is linked to sin belongs in an entirely different millenia.

First of all, I want you people to understand that I don't think homosexuals are bad people (this guy is just trying to stuff words in my mouth). Most just act terribly and have sex with many "partners" leading to AIDS. If most do it out of marriage, they'll still do it in marriage. That's my opinion, and I'm entitled to it.

First, I'm sorry if you feel you have been misrepresented. I believed you had made a comment of that nature earlier and fully apologise if you, in fact, did not.

Second, AIDS still has nothing to do with demonstrating promiscuity. No doubt some homosexuals are promiscuous, but not all or even most. I reckon that if you tried to find some statistics you would see pretty similar percentages for both hetero and homosexuals. AIDS might be more prevailent as the first recorded case in America was of a homosexual air steward. Thus it would spread more rapidly in the homosexual population. Lastly, it doesn't matter even if homosexuals are more promiscuous. Those in a committed stable relationship should not be punished for the actions of others.

Ok again you're making **** up. What study did you read that said that homosexuals are both: more likely to cheat than heterosexuals; and likely to cheat in a relationship if they have had more than one partner before entering that relationship.
Do you just constantly make statements before you do your research? Do you make something up and then go look for something that agrees with you? That's not cool. :|DeeJayInphinity

You just gave a link that proved my point.... and umm... if you're not going to use the facts that are laid out, then you in fact, are the one making **** up. Here.
"if married, homosexuals were about 3 times more likely to cheat on their spouse."

First, I'm sorry if you feel you have been misrepresented. I believed you had made a comment of that nature earlier and fully apologise if you, in fact, did not.

Second, AIDS still has nothing to do with demonstrating promiscuity. No doubt some homosexuals are promiscuous, but not all or even most. I reckon that if you tried to find some statistics you would see pretty similar percentages for both hetero and homosexuals. AIDS might be more prevailent as the first recorded case in America was of a homosexual air steward. Thus it would spread more rapidly in the homosexual population. Lastly, it doesn't matter even if homosexuals are more promiscuous. Those in a committed stable relationship should not be punished for the actions of others.

Junkie_man

I agree with your last statement, and hopefully that can be sorted out in the future.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Ok again you're making **** up. What study did you read that said that homosexuals are both: more likely to cheat than heterosexuals; and likely to cheat in a relationship if they have had more than one partner before entering that relationship.
Do you just constantly make statements before you do your research? Do you make something up and then go look for something that agrees with you? That's not cool. :|GamerForca

You just gave a link that proved my point.... and umm... if you're not going to use the facts that are laid out, then you in fact, are the one making **** up. Here.
"if married, homosexuals were about 3 times more likely to cheat on their spouse."

[QUOTE="GamerForca"]

[QUOTE="MattUD1"]Google... Mr_sprinkles

And I'm sure a million studies will just pop up right? Give me a website or something that might help, genius.

Here, this might work....

"The HIV virus is transmitted through the exchange of infected bodily fluids. Some 89 percent of persons known to have AIDS are homosexuals or intravenous drug users"
"These figures leave 4 percent of known AIDS patients who became infected with the disease through heterosexual contact"
"But it is a disease that has struck a disproportionately large number of homosexuals and has been spread through homosexual and bisexual sex."

[QUOTE="Junkie_man"][QUOTE="GamerForca"]I don't want to extend my argument because, because like I said, I have two gay friends and I'm not a homophobe. However, AIDS through blood transfusions is extremely rare, and there are methods to prevent mother-to-infant infections (though it's obviously still possible).

^ I agree that is probably inflating the number, but I am correct regardless.

GamerForca

Why the hell does it matter if there is a higher rate of infection among homosexuals? This has nothing to do with homosexuals being bad people, as you claimed in a previous post. The idea that disease is linked to sin belongs in an entirely different millenia.

First of all, I want you people to understand that I don't think homosexuals are bad people (this guy is just trying to stuff words in my mouth). Most just act terribly and have sex with many "partners" leading to AIDS. If most do it out of marriage, they'll still do it in marriage. That's my opinion, and I'm entitled to it.

[QUOTE="GamerForca"]

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Ok again you're making **** up. What study did you read that said that homosexuals are both: more likely to cheat than heterosexuals; and likely to cheat in a relationship if they have had more than one partner before entering that relationship.
Do you just constantly make statements before you do your research? Do you make something up and then go look for something that agrees with you? That's not cool. :|DeeJayInphinity

You just gave a link that proved my point.... and umm... if you're not going to use the facts that are laid out, then you in fact, are the one making **** up. Here.
"if married, homosexuals were about 3 times more likely to cheat on their spouse."

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="GamerForca"]

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Ok again you're making **** up. What study did you read that said that homosexuals are both: more likely to cheat than heterosexuals; and likely to cheat in a relationship if they have had more than one partner before entering that relationship.
Do you just constantly make statements before you do your research? Do you make something up and then go look for something that agrees with you? That's not cool. :|xaos

You just gave a link that proved my point.... and umm... if you're not going to use the facts that are laid out, then you in fact, are the one making **** up. Here.
"if married, homosexuals were about 3 times more likely to cheat on their spouse."

It's really their only defense. Using stuff from Family research institute, Focus on the Family, etc.....

Did you even go through the stats? :? Mode of transmission among men Percent Men who have sex with men (MSM) 47% Injection drug use (IDU) 25% Heterosexual sex 10% Other 18% Mode of transmission among women Percent Heterosexual sex 75% Injection drug use (IDU) 25% But I still don't see how this is relevant to your stats about fidelity. And your link is.. really.. broken.DeeJayInphinity

Looks to me like homosexual sex has the highest AIDS rate. And it's not possible to tell specifically what "other" is. And I think I fixed my link.

[QUOTE="Kingdomkey33"]

first off you all are missing the big PICTURE here....it also goes back to religion....

Most churched do not allow gay's because in the Bible it states Marraige is for a MAN AND A WOMAN. So you have to look at that factor too its not just that people think its wrong or right but what they also believe in. You may be gay and believe in god but other people may not accept you because to them it is wrong BECAUSE! of what they were raised on.

a55assin

A church marriage doesn't do anything for you though. You don't get what you would from a civil one. They mean different things to different people. Problem with the world is that nobody seems to mind their own business. If a tree falls in the very core of a forest...and you somehow hear about it. You don't care. If a gay couple gets married, you hear about, it doesn't affect your life...and yet you still somehow gather the nerve to complain about it. Humans...despicable.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Did you even go through the stats? :? Mode of transmission among men Percent Men who have sex with men (MSM) 47% Injection drug use (IDU) 25% Heterosexual sex 10% Other 18% Mode of transmission among women Percent Heterosexual sex 75% Injection drug use (IDU) 25% But I still don't see how this is relevant to your stats about fidelity. And your link is.. really.. broken.GamerForca

Looks to me like homosexual sex has the highest AIDS rate. And it's not possible to tell specifically what "other" is. And I think I fixed my link.

[QUOTE="GamerForca"][QUOTE="Junkie_man"][QUOTE="GamerForca"]I don't want to extend my argument because, because like I said, I have two gay friends and I'm not a homophobe. However, AIDS through blood transfusions is extremely rare, and there are methods to prevent mother-to-infant infections (though it's obviously still possible).

^ I agree that is probably inflating the number, but I am correct regardless.

xaos

Why the hell does it matter if there is a higher rate of infection among homosexuals? This has nothing to do with homosexuals being bad people, as you claimed in a previous post. The idea that disease is linked to sin belongs in an entirely different millenia.

First of all, I want you people to understand that I don't think homosexuals are bad people (this guy is just trying to stuff words in my mouth). Most just act terribly and have sex with many "partners" leading to AIDS. If most do it out of marriage, they'll still do it in marriage. That's my opinion, and I'm entitled to it.

Sorry, I don't have sex outside of marriage, and I don't know why you must assume that I do... Ah, and I never called you terrible, sorry if it seems that way. And I'm sorry that I have a different opinion than any of you. Very sorry. My first link came from the studies of three universities. You guys are using opinions, I'm using studies. Oh, and be very glad that I signed petition a couple of years ago to remove the ban on same-sex marriage in Georgia. My (homosexual) friend asked me to, and I did. Sadly though, you guys can only see what you want to see in my posts. Very sad indeed.

Will somone be wrong with me....plz......:oops:CIoud_S

LOL. I will! Let's go get gay married.

Oh and being a Christian yes its kinda a touchy subject, I don't believe its right but again as long as its not bothering me I don't care what they do :)

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Did you even go through the stats? :? Mode of transmission among men Percent Men who have sex with men (MSM) 47% Injection drug use (IDU) 25% Heterosexual sex 10% Other 18% Mode of transmission among women Percent Heterosexual sex 75% Injection drug use (IDU) 25% But I still don't see how this is relevant to your stats about fidelity. And your link is.. really.. broken.GamerForca

Looks to me like homosexual sex has the highest AIDS rate. And it's not possible to tell specifically what "other" is. And I think I fixed my link.

And the reason of the difference between homosexual sex and heterosexual sex could well be that its a hell of a lot more difficult to get AIDS from a woman than it is from a man.

Women aren't quite so 'fluidy' in that respect, and AIDS does not transfer through the skin which covers most of your penis.

Receptive penile sex has a much higher infection rate than insertive sex. So would it be unreasonable to suppose that perhaps the big difference might be due to the fact that heterosexual males don't "recieve"?

Sorry, I don't have sex outside of marriage, and I don't know why you must assume that I do... Ah, and I never called you terrible, sorry if it seems that way. And I'm sorry that I have a different opinion than any of you. Very sorry. My first link came from the studies of three universities. You guys are using opinions, I'm using studies. Oh, and be very glad that I signed petition a couple of years ago to remove the ban on same-sex marriage in Georgia. My (homosexual) friend asked me to, and I did. Sadly though, you guys can only see what you want to see in my posts. Very sad indeed.

GamerForca

[QUOTE="a55assin"][QUOTE="Kingdomkey33"]

first off you all are missing the big PICTURE here....it also goes back to religion....

Most churched do not allow gay's because in the Bible it states Marraige is for a MAN AND A WOMAN. So you have to look at that factor too its not just that people think its wrong or right but what they also believe in. You may be gay and believe in god but other people may not accept you because to them it is wrong BECAUSE! of what they were raised on.

Kingdomkey33

A church marriage doesn't do anything for you though. You don't get what you would from a civil one. They mean different things to different people. Problem with the world is that nobody seems to mind their own business. If a tree falls in the very core of a forest...and you somehow hear about it. You don't care. If a gay couple gets married, you hear about, it doesn't affect your life...and yet you still somehow gather the nerve to complain about it. Humans...despicable.

Yeah, I get it...you're kinda playing the Devil's advocate.

There are always two sides to a story like this. That's why it's so conversational. I know that certain people don't want the world to change, but it's changing anyway. People people are coming out of the closet and that requires the others to accept same-sex couples. It's a fairly new concept really...being a gay or lesbian tv star is now just as normal as being straight, but in areas like politics and civil workers...it's looked down upon. We are still a very prejudice and close-minded people, so allowing same-sex marriages to occur would be a great thing. A step towards a new age where people mind their own F-ing business!

[QUOTE="flowdee79"]So why shouldn't two siblings marry? They are consenting adults right? CIoud_S

Incest is best?

Sorry, I don't have sex outside of marriage, and I don't know why you must assume that I do... Ah, and I never called you terrible, sorry if it seems that way. And I'm sorry that I have a different opinion than any of you. Very sorry. My first link came from the studies of three universities. You guys are using opinions, I'm using studies. Oh, and be very glad that I signed petition a couple of years ago to remove the ban on same-sex marriage in Georgia. My (homosexual) friend asked me to, and I did. Sadly though, you guys can only see what you want to see in my posts. Very sad indeed.

GamerForca

Incest is best?

flowdee79

Gay couples should not marry in the traditional way, but instead they should make a "social contract", that gives all the rights and duties of a maried couple, but it's wrong to insist on going to church for instance. It's not all about what they feel about each other (which can be made clear for everybody by the social contract) but also respecting millenium old traditions.

We have a saying in my country: "if two people tell you that you are drunk, go to bed!!!". I think this applies here.

leeveeu

Sounds good to me. Gay couples haved the right to get married while at the same time, the concept of a church marriage is preserved. Everyone wins.

[QUOTE="GamerForca"]

Sorry, I don't have sex outside of marriage, and I don't know why you must assume that I do... Ah, and I never called you terrible, sorry if it seems that way. And I'm sorry that I have a different opinion than any of you. Very sorry. My first link came from the studies of three universities. You guys are using opinions, I'm using studies. Oh, and be very glad that I signed petition a couple of years ago to remove the ban on same-sex marriage in Georgia. My (homosexual) friend asked me to, and I did. Sadly though, you guys can only see what you want to see in my posts. Very sad indeed.

DeeJayInphinity

I said my FIRST link, which is made by three universites (Oregon State, Yale, Georgetown). As for the second link: ok fine. Still, I'm the only one that's put forth any info.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="GamerForca"]

Sorry, I don't have sex outside of marriage, and I don't know why you must assume that I do... Ah, and I never called you terrible, sorry if it seems that way. And I'm sorry that I have a different opinion than any of you. Very sorry. My first link came from the studies of three universities. You guys are using opinions, I'm using studies. Oh, and be very glad that I signed petition a couple of years ago to remove the ban on same-sex marriage in Georgia. My (homosexual) friend asked me to, and I did. Sadly though, you guys can only see what you want to see in my posts. Very sad indeed.

GamerForca

I said my FIRST link, which is made by three universites (Oregon State, Yale, Georgetown). As for the second link: ok fine. Still, I'm the only one that's put forth any info.

[QUOTE="leeveeu"]

Gay couples should not marry in the traditional way, but instead they should make a "social contract", that gives all the rights and duties of a maried couple, but it's wrong to insist on going to church for instance. It's not all about what they feel about each other (which can be made clear for everybody by the social contract) but also respecting millenium old traditions.

We have a saying in my country: "if two people tell you that you are drunk, go to bed!!!". I think this applies here.

kingdre

Sounds good to me. Gay couples haved the right to get married while at the same time, the concept of a church marriage is preserved. Everyone wins.

Then why can't we even call it marriage? no-one is stopping churches from not allowing gay weddings, just as no-one is stopping the Catholic Church disallowing remarriage. If I was homosexual, I'd still be angry that I was deemed to have to call my marriage something else.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="GamerForca"]

Sorry, I don't have sex outside of marriage, and I don't know why you must assume that I do... Ah, and I never called you terrible, sorry if it seems that way. And I'm sorry that I have a different opinion than any of you. Very sorry. My first link came from the studies of three universities. You guys are using opinions, I'm using studies. Oh, and be very glad that I signed petition a couple of years ago to remove the ban on same-sex marriage in Georgia. My (homosexual) friend asked me to, and I did. Sadly though, you guys can only see what you want to see in my posts. Very sad indeed.

GamerForca

I said my FIRST link, which is made by three universites (Oregon State, Yale, Georgetown). As for the second link: ok fine. Still, I'm the only one that's put forth any info.

[QUOTE="GamerForca"]

Sorry, I don't have sex outside of marriage, and I don't know why you must assume that I do... Ah, and I never called you terrible, sorry if it seems that way. And I'm sorry that I have a different opinion than any of you. Very sorry. My first link came from the studies of three universities. You guys are using opinions, I'm using studies. Oh, and be very glad that I signed petition a couple of years ago to remove the ban on same-sex marriage in Georgia. My (homosexual) friend asked me to, and I did. Sadly though, you guys can only see what you want to see in my posts. Very sad indeed.

xaos

Other than the fact that I stated that I don't think homos are naturally bad people and that I've said I'm not a homophobe and I have TWO gay friends. You and others choose to ignore that though, and that's not my fault.

There is a reason why society still won't accept gays.Ilived

That was enlightening....

I'm not going through the whole thread to see if this has been posted already, so sorry if it's a repost.

Ten Reasons Gay Marriage is Un-American

1. Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.
2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
4. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
5. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.
6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.
7. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
9. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
10. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

I'm not going through the whole thread to see if this has been posted already, so sorry if it's a repost.

Ten Reasons Gay Marriage is Un-American

1. Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.
2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
4. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
5. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.
6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.
7. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
9. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
10. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

ithilgore2006

Joke? Or are those all your opinions?

That's nice about your first link. Wasn't talking about that one.. The link I saw came from FRI, and your first link comes from a biased source so again, let's see some better links here.
Something from a reputable university, or a peer-reviewed scientific journal.DeeJayInphinity

Here's a study made by the scientific journal AIDS. Paragraph 4 states that (in Amsterdam) 86% of new AIDS cases comes in the context of a relationship. "an estimated 10% of gay men in steady relationships who were having unprotected sex with their main partner did not have a "negotiated safety" agreement to help prevent HIV being introduced into the relationship from unprotected sex with casual partners". Sorry, the CL soccer game is about to start and I've got to go, so I can't continue this debate for now.

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"]

I'm not going through the whole thread to see if this has been posted already, so sorry if it's a repost.

Ten Reasons Gay Marriage is Un-American

1. Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.
2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
4. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
5. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.
6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.
7. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
9. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
10. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

a55assin

Joke? Or are those all your opinions?

I'm not going through the whole thread to see if this has been posted already, so sorry if it's a repost.

Ten Reasons Gay Marriage is Un-American

1. Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.
2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
4. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
5. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.
6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.
7. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
9. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
10. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

ithilgore2006

lol great ppints.

love the sarcasm

I'm not going through the whole thread to see if this has been posted already, so sorry if it's a repost.

Ten Reasons Gay Marriage is Un-American

1. Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.
2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
4. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
5. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.
6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.
7. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
9. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
10. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

ithilgore2006

I'm not going through the whole thread to see if this has been posted already, so sorry if it's a repost.

Ten Reasons Gay Marriage is Un-American

1. Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.
2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
4. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
5. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.
6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.
7. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
9. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
10. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

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