Why I Have A Problem With The USA

no one is going to agree becouse everyone i guess thinks america is perfect, they dont want to see the flaws, so they dont exist.serjitup

The problem with the American health care system is that people feel that health care is entitled too them. If everyone was made to purchase their own health care in a true free market; prices would drop. If you look at medical procedures that aren't covered by insurance you'd find that they are very affordable.MahlerFreak

Actually, elective surgery is rather high.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Nickman71"][QUOTE="vitriolboy"]I'm not American but I disagree with a few of your points

1) healthcare - welfarism is a social policy that encourages inaction in people. Why work for something when the government will pay for it for you? I regularly see people on benefits with £1000 3 piece suites and massive plasma tvs, who have never worked in their lives while the state picks up the tab

MahlerFreak

Then how come every single first world country in the world EXCEPT the US has free healthcare?

This isn't a good argument.. People have actually died in the US because they were denied treatment they could not afford or had coverage for it. I think a better example is France when it comes to national healthcare.. Most consider it as the best system when it comes to the socialistic policy.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

This isn't a good argument.. People have actually died in the US because they were denied treatment they could not afford or had coverage for it. I think a better example is France when it comes to national healthcare.. Most consider it as the best system when it comes to the socialistic policy.

LJS9502_basic

They don't seek it because they will be put under a pile of debt they can never get out of if they do. People don't understand that if we have Universal Healthcare, it doesnt mean you have to use it. You can still have private insurance if you can afford it. There's a reason why the US has the the worst healthcare of any industralized country.

[QUOTE="MahlerFreak"]The problem with the American health care system is that people feel that health care is entitled too them. If everyone was made to purchase their own health care in a true free market; prices would drop. If you look at medical procedures that aren't covered by insurance you'd find that they are very affordable.LJS9502_basic

Actually, elective surgery is rather high.

Countless things wrong in your post, not even worth my time.

The only thing I will comment on is that Bush was in fact elected in 2000. People really need to get over this. He won.

They don't seek it because they will be put under a pile of debt they can never get out of if they do. People don't understand that if we have Universal Healthcare, it doesnt mean you have to use it. You can still have private insurance if you can afford it. There's a reason why the US has the the worst healthcare of any industralized country.

Nickman71

They should purchase health insurance then....do away with the SUV and get healthcare.:|

The US does NOT have the worst healthcare. Healthcare in the states is one of the best. You can't call the healthcare bad just because it's not socialized. Why do so many people from other countries come here when they need operations then?

This guy does have a point regardless of what you other morons think. All some of you can come up with is (I dont Care, or Fix your Grammar, and someone who filled a care cup with dinosaur semen) So its ok for us americans to criticize and ridicule other people from other parts of the world but then as soon as someone says something we dont agree with we get offended....Its because of this type of hypocrisy that other people end up hating in us americans.......

FAT DUMB AND LAZY....(this is becoming a steriotype for americans and is very very sad)..... As far as health care goes I dont agree with you there entirely. but its true there is much more we can do.

Then there facts like were the #1 consumers and poluters.........but the general attitude is not caring, environmentalist are looked uppon like some sleazy tele evangelist, or snake oil salesmen.

[QUOTE="Nickman71"]

They don't seek it because they will be put under a pile of debt they can never get out of if they do. People don't understand that if we have Universal Healthcare, it doesnt mean you have to use it. You can still have private insurance if you can afford it. There's a reason why the US has the the worst healthcare of any industralized country.

LJS9502_basic

They should purchase health insurance then....do away with the SUV and get healthcare.:|

The US does NOT have the worst healthcare. Healthcare in the states is one of the best. You can't call the healthcare bad just because it's not socialized. Why do so many people from other countries come here when they need operations then?

Lj, stikes again!!!

I wish Hawkeye was here, he'd PWN all the haters!!!!11

This guy does have a point regardless of what you other morons think. All some of you can come up with is (I dont Care, or Fix your Grammar, and someone who filled a care cup with dinosaur semen) So its ok for us americans to criticize and ridicule other people from other parts of the world but then as soon as someone says something we dont agree with we get offended....Its because of this type of hypocrisy that other people end up hating in us americans.......

FAT DUMB AND LAZY....(this is becoming a steriotype for americans and is very very sad)..... As far as health care goes I dont agree with you there entirely. but its true there is much more we can do.

Then there facts like were the #1 consumers and poluters.........but the general attitude is not caring, environmentalist are looked uppon like some sleazy tele evangelist, or snake oil salesmen.

Pythos77

Actually no....he didn't have a point. Just generalizations and stereotypes. China is the number one polluter by the way.;)

[QUOTE="Nickman71"]

They don't seek it because they will be put under a pile of debt they can never get out of if they do. People don't understand that if we have Universal Healthcare, it doesnt mean you have to use it. You can still have private insurance if you can afford it. There's a reason why the US has the the worst healthcare of any industralized country.

LJS9502_basic

They should purchase health insurance then....do away with the SUV and get healthcare.:|

The US does NOT have the worst healthcare. Healthcare in the states is one of the best. You can't call the healthcare bad just because it's not socialized. Why do so many people from other countries come here when they need operations then?

Cool. I'm sure someone making $7.50 an hour can afford health insurance. If only they would get rid of those SUV's.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nickman71"]

They don't seek it because they will be put under a pile of debt they can never get out of if they do. People don't understand that if we have Universal Healthcare, it doesnt mean you have to use it. You can still have private insurance if you can afford it. There's a reason why the US has the the worst healthcare of any industralized country.

Nickman71

They should purchase health insurance then....do away with the SUV and get healthcare.:|

The US does NOT have the worst healthcare. Healthcare in the states is one of the best. You can't call the healthcare bad just because it's not socialized. Why do so many people from other countries come here when they need operations then?

Cool. I'm sure someone making $7.50 an hour can afford health insurance. If only they would get rid of those SUV's.

Then you get government assistance for your medical. It does exist for those that can't afford it.;)

GUNS GUNS GUNS, honestly do you really need to have guns. nobody should have guns Not even the police. Religion, Join Christianity And Get A FREE Gun (In neon green

roryrc

LOL if police didnt have guns then they would die from gangs who have guns. And i doubt all people in amercia have guns i dont live there but everyone in amercia has guns you say i doubt it very much. Christains have guns in amercia wtf i dont think so.I think you should stop watching Scarface or The Godfather and maybe visit Amercia?

Dude, you're my new hero. I totally agree with you even thought I'm an American. I believe in God, and I'm a Christian, but I definately don't believe in making people pay to get rid of their sins or whatever. You don't even have to go to church to be accepted by God, He's going to love you no matter what. Remember, He gave His only begotten son up for us, and many of us take advantage of that, which is wrong to an extent.

Gas prices are amazing, and I've never seen them as high as this before. They're going down right now, which I love because my whole paycheck goes to my car, geez. $2.63 is the lowest it's been in the past 3 months, I swear, and that's still high!

Our president isn't even worth mentioning. I hate him and so do the rest of my family. He's basically sacrificing innocent Americans and Iraqies to prove to the world that he thinks he's the S**T, but he's only proving to us that he's an idiotic moron who needs to be impeached. Our country elected Clinton, but for some reason we HAD to re-count the ballets and find that we made a "mistake" and that our president was actually Bush. Just because Clinton basically cheated on his wife doesn't mean that we should reject him as president. He knew how to run our country, most of the time anyway.

McDonalds fries are the best I've ever had, but I agree with you when you say that we need to destroy the place. Someone actually sued that place and won the case when she got fat from eating there way too often. How stupid can America be?

I'm a pacifist, and don't believe in fighting unless my family is in danger. In that case, I can kick so major ACE, but only if my family is in danger...or anyone that I love or strongly care about. I love the Army for having the courage to protect our nation, but the invasion or Iraq is pointless. It was ok the first year or so, but now we're just over there because Bush is trying to prove something that's never going to be true. He's an idiot, and he got the Dixie Chicks banned from all radio stations because they bashed him. Oh well, I bash the dumb guy every day, what ever happend to the First Ammendment? Ugh, and now the county I live in wants to get rid of the Ten Commandments on our courthouse because some people don't appreciate it being there. That's their problem. They can ignore it if they want, just don't look at it or take it to heart, geez.

[QUOTE="roryrc"]

GUNS GUNS GUNS, honestly do you really need to have guns. nobody should have guns Not even the police. Religion, Join Christianity And Get A FREE Gun (In neon green

GamingThief

LOL if police didnt have guns then they would die from gangs who have guns. And i doubt all people in amercia have guns i dont live there but everyone in amercia has guns you say i doubt it very much. Christains have guns in amercia wtf i dont think so.I think you should stop watching Scarface or The Godfather and maybe visit Amercia?

generalizing ftl. no one in my family owns a gun

*this isn't towards you thief*

healthcare in this system is so expensive because medical school is so expensive. potential doctors have to get student loans to get into medical school. they need good jobs to pay for these loans.

again, as one poster said, there's a reason that every medical breakthrough happens here in the US.

mig_killer2

Your right medical school is very expensivebut that isnt the reason healthcare is expensesive, INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE THE #1 reason. They want to make all the profit and do none of the work an end up stiffing both patients and Doctors. #2 LAWYERS these bloodsuckers will look for any rediculous reason to start a lawsuit. Sometimes they have valid cases but most of the time thier cases are a gigantic pile of CHIIIT......

but you and that other poster are way off in saying that every medical breakthrough happens here in the US......that couldnt be further from the truth. And take a look at the Studies published in medical jounals and then ask yourself where most of the (SCIENTIST/DOCTORS) are from....You will see that most of them arent american or are colaborating with Other universities across the GLOBE...

Dude, you're my new hero. I totally agree with you even thought I'm an American. I believe in God, and I'm a Christian, but I definately don't believe in making people pay to get rid of their sins or whatever. You don't even have to go to church to be accepted by God, He's going to love you no matter what. Remember, He gave His only begotten son up for us, and many of us take advantage of that, which is wrong to an extent.

Gas prices are amazing, and I've never seen them as high as this before. They're going down right now, which I love because my whole paycheck goes to my car, geez. $2.63 is the lowest it's been in the past 3 months, I swear, and that's still high!

Our president isn't even worth mentioning. I hate him and so do the rest of my family. He's basically sacrificing innocent Americans and Iraqies to prove to the world that he thinks he's the S**T, but he's only proving to us that he's an idiotic moron who needs to be impeached. Our country elected Clinton, but for some reason we HAD to re-count the ballets and find that we made a "mistake" and that our president was actually Bush. Just because Clinton basically cheated on his wife doesn't mean that we should reject him as president. He knew how to run our country, most of the time anyway.

McDonalds fries are the best I've ever had, but I agree with you when you say that we need to destroy the place. Someone actually sued that place and won the case when she got fat from eating there way too often. How stupid can America be?

I'm a pacifist, and don't believe in fighting unless my family is in danger. In that case, I can kick so major ACE, but only if my family is in danger...or anyone that I love or strongly care about. I love the Army for having the courage to protect our nation, but the invasion or Iraq is pointless. It was ok the first year or so, but now we're just over there because Bush is trying to prove something that's never going to be true. He's an idiot, and he got the Dixie Chicks banned from all radio stations because they bashed him. Oh well, I bash the dumb guy every day, what ever happend to the First Ammendment? Ugh, and now the county I live in wants to get rid of the Ten Commandments on our courthouse because some people don't appreciate it being there. That's their problem. They can ignore it if they want, just don't look at it or take it to heart, geez.

Jember_Joy

Too much to read. Summary?-AK47-

Too much to read. Summary?-AK47-

[QUOTE="-AK47-"]Too much to read. Summary?Recycleation

That sums it up nicely.....

[QUOTE="-AK47-"]Too much to read. Summary?Darthmatt

I hope you are eating a Big Mac while you do that....

Your post is full of Stereotypes stop listing to the media who bash the U.S and say how bad it is.

[QUOTE="Nickman71"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nickman71"]

They don't seek it because they will be put under a pile of debt they can never get out of if they do. People don't understand that if we have Universal Healthcare, it doesnt mean you have to use it. You can still have private insurance if you can afford it. There's a reason why the US has the the worst healthcare of any industralized country.

LJS9502_basic

They should purchase health insurance then....do away with the SUV and get healthcare.:|

The US does NOT have the worst healthcare. Healthcare in the states is one of the best. You can't call the healthcare bad just because it's not socialized. Why do so many people from other countries come here when they need operations then?

Cool. I'm sure someone making $7.50 an hour can afford health insurance. If only they would get rid of those SUV's.

Then you get government assistance for your medical. It does exist for those that can't afford it.;)

Are you talking about Medicaid? That only applies to those under the poverty line (just to note, the US has the most poverty of any developed country) There is still the whole chunk of lower middle class Americans who can't afford healthcare. (Too bad they don't just sell their SUV's!)

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"][QUOTE="-AK47-"]Too much to read. Summary?LJS9502_basic

I hope you are eating a Big Mac while you do that....

Wow. You have no idea what you're talking about.Your rambling will soon be forgotten by everyone who read it. If they haven't already.

Where are you from again?

Dude, you're my new hero. I totally agree with you even thought I'm an American. I believe in God, and I'm a Christian, but I definately don't believe in making people pay to get rid of their sins or whatever. You don't even have to go to church to be accepted by God, He's going to love you no matter what. Remember, He gave His only begotten son up for us, and many of us take advantage of that, which is wrong to an extent.

Gas prices are amazing, and I've never seen them as high as this before. They're going down right now, which I love because my whole paycheck goes to my car, geez. $2.63 is the lowest it's been in the past 3 months, I swear, and that's still high!

Our president isn't even worth mentioning. I hate him and so do the rest of my family. He's basically sacrificing innocent Americans and Iraqies to prove to the world that he thinks he's the S**T, but he's only proving to us that he's an idiotic moron who needs to be impeached. Our country elected Clinton, but for some reason we HAD to re-count the ballets and find that we made a "mistake" and that our president was actually Bush. Just because Clinton basically cheated on his wife doesn't mean that we should reject him as president. He knew how to run our country, most of the time anyway.

McDonalds fries are the best I've ever had, but I agree with you when you say that we need to destroy the place. Someone actually sued that place and won the case when she got fat from eating there way too often. How stupid can America be?

I'm a pacifist, and don't believe in fighting unless my family is in danger. In that case, I can kick so major ACE, but only if my family is in danger...or anyone that I love or strongly care about. I love the Army for having the courage to protect our nation, but the invasion or Iraq is pointless. It was ok the first year or so, but now we're just over there because Bush is trying to prove something that's never going to be true. He's an idiot, and he got the Dixie Chicks banned from all radio stations because they bashed him. Oh well, I bash the dumb guy every day, what ever happend to the First Ammendment? Ugh, and now the county I live in wants to get rid of the Ten Commandments on our courthouse because some people don't appreciate it being there. That's their problem. They can ignore it if they want, just don't look at it or take it to heart, geez.

Jember_Joy

lol you're a Christian but you want an adulterer to be President? Way to stick up for your principals there.

Its not possible for Bush to ban music groups from the radio. Privately owned radio stations chose not to play them as they disagreed with their political views. Radio stations are also covered by the First Amendment.

Also many critics of America cite oil as a driving factor in the Iraq war and other Middle Eastern situations. Perhaps Americans should look at the issue of 'cheap gas prices' in order to reduce the use of fossil fuels and also to prevent foreign policy being dictated to by the conflicting positions of the need for oil and the need to be nice to OPEC countries.

The day hydrogen fuel cells come into mass production is the day the Middle East implodes.

I can't believe there is controversy over this.:roll:

Here's the sad truth: We (America) Kick ass. Don't like it? Blow up one of our buildings. I dare you. We will invade your sad-ass country and nuke you if we have to. There is very good reason why America is the most powerful country in the world. Think it sucks? Then don't move here. Think we're fat? Then bomb us with some salad. Think we're stupid? Then watch and be amazed as our NASA teams get to Mars before your ass.

America: We're here to stay, and if you don't like it, **** OFF!

[QUOTE="Jember_Joy"]

Dude, you're my new hero. I totally agree with you even thought I'm an American. I believe in God, and I'm a Christian, but I definately don't believe in making people pay to get rid of their sins or whatever. You don't even have to go to church to be accepted by God, He's going to love you no matter what. Remember, He gave His only begotten son up for us, and many of us take advantage of that, which is wrong to an extent.

Gas prices are amazing, and I've never seen them as high as this before. They're going down right now, which I love because my whole paycheck goes to my car, geez. $2.63 is the lowest it's been in the past 3 months, I swear, and that's still high!

Our president isn't even worth mentioning. I hate him and so do the rest of my family. He's basically sacrificing innocent Americans and Iraqies to prove to the world that he thinks he's the S**T, but he's only proving to us that he's an idiotic moron who needs to be impeached. Our country elected Clinton, but for some reason we HAD to re-count the ballets and find that we made a "mistake" and that our president was actually Bush. Just because Clinton basically cheated on his wife doesn't mean that we should reject him as president. He knew how to run our country, most of the time anyway.

McDonalds fries are the best I've ever had, but I agree with you when you say that we need to destroy the place. Someone actually sued that place and won the case when she got fat from eating there way too often. How stupid can America be?

I'm a pacifist, and don't believe in fighting unless my family is in danger. In that case, I can kick so major ACE, but only if my family is in danger...or anyone that I love or strongly care about. I love the Army for having the courage to protect our nation, but the invasion or Iraq is pointless. It was ok the first year or so, but now we're just over there because Bush is trying to prove something that's never going to be true. He's an idiot, and he got the Dixie Chicks banned from all radio stations because they bashed him. Oh well, I bash the dumb guy every day, what ever happend to the First Ammendment? Ugh, and now the county I live in wants to get rid of the Ten Commandments on our courthouse because some people don't appreciate it being there. That's their problem. They can ignore it if they want, just don't look at it or take it to heart, geez.

vitriolboy

lol you're a Christian but you want an adulterer to be President? Way to stick up for your principals there.

Its not possible for Bush to ban music groups from the radio. Privately owned radio stations chose not to play them as they disagreed with their political views. Radio stations are also covered by the First Amendment.

Also many critics of America cite oil as a driving factor in the Iraq war and other Middle Eastern situations. Perhaps Americans should look at the issue of 'cheap gas prices' in order to reduce the use of fossil fuels and also to prevent foreign policy being dictated to by the conflicting positions of the need for oil and the need to be nice to OPEC countries.

The day hydrogen fuel cells come into mass production is the day the Middle East implodes.

Just so you know, a lot of Christians think Bush is the antichrist. . .I would prefer aan adulterer being president over Satan incarnate. . .

I can't believe there is controversy over this.:roll:

Here's the sad truth: We (America) Kick ass. Don't like it? Blow up one of our buildings. I dare you. We will invade your sad-ass country and nuke you if we have to. There is very good reason why America is the most powerful country in the world. Think it sucks? Then don't move here. Think we're fat? Then bomb us with some salad. Think we're stupid? Then watch and be amazed as our NASA teams get to Mars before your ass.

America: We're here to stay, and if you don't like it, **** OFF!

Silver_Dragon17

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

I can't believe there is controversy over this.:roll:

Here's the sad truth: We (America) Kick ass. Don't like it? Blow up one of our buildings. I dare you. We will invade your sad-ass country and nuke you if we have to. There is very good reason why America is the most powerful country in the world. Think it sucks? Then don't move here. Think we're fat? Then bomb us with some salad. Think we're stupid? Then watch and be amazed as our NASA teams get to Mars before your ass.

America: We're here to stay, and if you don't like it, **** OFF!

Recycleation

THIS OH GHOD THIS

lol you're a Christian but you want an adulterer to be President? Way to stick up for your principals there.

Its not possible for Bush to ban music groups from the radio. Privately owned radio stations chose not to play them as they disagreed with their political views. Radio stations are also covered by the First Amendment.

Also many critics of America cite oil as a driving factor in the Iraq war and other Middle Eastern situations. Perhaps Americans should look at the issue of 'cheap gas prices' in order to reduce the use of fossil fuels and also to prevent foreign policy being dictated to by the conflicting positions of the need for oil and the need to be nice to OPEC countries.

The day hydrogen fuel cells come into mass production is the day the Middle East implodes.

vitriolboy

The fact that Bill cheated on his wife does not reflect on his ability to govern. Anyways doesn't the Bible say to forgive?

And anyways, would you rather have an adulterer or a crackhead as president?

three things

1)Get your facts straight
2) Stop being jealous that you can't come here
3) blog it next time, usa owns your w/e country

[QUOTE="Recycleation"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

I can't believe there is controversy over this.:roll:

Here's the sad truth: We (America) Kick ass. Don't like it? Blow up one of our buildings. I dare you. We will invade your sad-ass country and nuke you if we have to. There is very good reason why America is the most powerful country in the world. Think it sucks? Then don't move here. Think we're fat? Then bomb us with some salad. Think we're stupid? Then watch and be amazed as our NASA teams get to Mars before your ass.

America: We're here to stay, and if you don't like it, **** OFF!

BaconRulesAllv2

THIS OH GHOD THIS

THREAD CREATOR IS OWNED /THREAD
wow i feel sorry for teh TC

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Your only decent point was about pollution.Hungry_bunny

I love both my countries(MEX & USA), but I hate how my government keeps acting like they can go about policing the whole world whenever they want. How much more can the world take of the US government sticking it's nose in everyone's business?

I love both my countries(MEX & USA), but I hate how my government keeps acting like they can go about policing the whole world whenever they want. How much more can the world take of the US government sticking it's nose in everyone's business?

Truth_Seekr

Policing the world???

Iraq was stupid, but for policing the world, my dad was a Marine in the 26th MArine Expiditionary unit, they basically patrolled the Mediteranean and Europe and Africa on a ship, and hey stopped at every country they went by.

In Somalia, they were getting American and European's out of there, and were ready to kill any Somalian who raised a gun at them, but in Kenya they did humanitarian work....

Interesting stuff everyone. But again with the fat thing. We all know Mcdonalds is bad, but people eat it anyway. I'd comment on other stuff, but im tired now.vidplayer8

[QUOTE="vitriolboy"]

lol you're a Christian but you want an adulterer to be President? Way to stick up for your principals there.

Its not possible for Bush to ban music groups from the radio. Privately owned radio stations chose not to play them as they disagreed with their political views. Radio stations are also covered by the First Amendment.

Also many critics of America cite oil as a driving factor in the Iraq war and other Middle Eastern situations. Perhaps Americans should look at the issue of 'cheap gas prices' in order to reduce the use of fossil fuels and also to prevent foreign policy being dictated to by the conflicting positions of the need for oil and the need to be nice to OPEC countries.

The day hydrogen fuel cells come into mass production is the day the Middle East implodes.

Nickman71

The fact that Bill cheated on his wife does not reflect on his ability to govern. Anyways doesn't the Bible say to forgive?

And anyways, would you rather have an adulterer or a crackhead as president?

I'm not a Bush fan and I also believe that having affairs should not prevent someone from holding political office, put that one down to sanctimonious media outlets.

But really is there any point in posting unsupported and blatantly false statements like this?

[QUOTE="-AK47-"]Too much to read. Summary?Recycleation

no..hes stating the obvious. i dont agree completely with his health care rant, but that's different. im a pacifist, tree-hugger, love-everything-in-life, always happy and smiling kind of gal that just thinks that we americans could do better sometimes. i dont put other's opinions down...everyones entitled to their own opinions..lol. so ok..im done ranting for now