Green Day and LP ARE NOT EMO. Please people, get that through your head.
Now, on to the question. Nobody said it was cool. Besides, emo is short for emotional, so in a sense, bands like Slayer are emo, becasue they put emotions in their music.
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Why is emo considered "cool"? Maybe because American teenagers identify with the lyrics or simply the overall message of the music... By the way...
the emo you hear on that radio isn;t real emo, and the style of all the kids who have adopted it aren't really emo, they have adopted a fashionable style.Samwel_X
In fact, that really is emo; the "real emo" is in fact ska. Of course, I might be wrong, I am not interested in this kind of music.
Green Day and LP ARE NOT EMO. Please people, get that through your head.
Now, on to the question. Nobody said it was cool. Besides, emo is short for emotional, so in a sense, bands like Slayer are emo, becasue they put emotions in their music.
iMuffins
The emo term is in fact a short for "emotional hardcore", but yet again I might be wrong... Anyway, it's the way how feelings are expressed, because otherwise even classical music can be tagged as "emo"!...
[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]You guys do know that Nirvana started the whole emo thing right? From a person who knows grunge rock like if it was his life, Nirvana was the first band to popularize emo, thats what grunge was at the time, a mix of metal and the blues with some punk influence. Of course it didnt have the sad tone that it has today but thats what grunge was, the emo of that time. I mean look at the smashing pumpkins early lyrics, how more emo could you get? The only difference is that grunge rock was actualy good. :PTaalon
[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"]You guys do know that Nirvana started the whole emo thing right? From a person who knows grunge rock like if it was his life, Nirvana was the first band to popularize emo, thats what grunge was at the time, a mix of metal and the blues with some punk influence. Of course it didnt have the sad tone that it has today but thats what grunge was, the emo of that time. I mean look at the smashing pumpkins early lyrics, how more emo could you get? The only difference is that grunge rock was actualy good. :Pmexicangordo
Look it up dude. Nirvana didn't start ANYTHING. NearTheEnd
Well, you're partially right, but they did influenced the rise of alternative rock.
And Nirvana weren't emo, they were grunge and some of their songs were actually sad, but in a more profound way than Fall Out Boy, for example. And no, I don't even listen regularly to Nirvana.
Current Emo for dumbasses with no clue:
http://www.myspace.com/amperepunx
http://www.myspace.com/sinaloa
http://www.myspace.com/lifeatthesespeedspdx
Three bands. Get down with it.
It just came outta nowhere it seems.One day Guns N' Roses and Nirvana are ruling the rock world then when Cobain died and GNR broke up everything went emo.All this Green Day, LP, MCR, Fallout Boy, nu-metal bologna, and so on.How did all this happen? Now its suddenly "cool" to cut yourself, dress inblack, and be depressed.jimmygrace
It just came outta nowhere it seems.One day Guns N' Roses and Nirvana are ruling the rock world then when Cobain died and GNR broke up everything went emo.All this Green Day, LP, MCR, Fallout Boy, nu-metal bologna, and so on.How did all this happen? Now its suddenly "cool" to cut yourself, dress inblack, and be depressed.jimmygraceI don't think people are doing it for acceptance...they know it's well hated. It's only cool in their circle, not everywhere. And what do you think makes music emo? All sorts of bands in GNR and Nirvanas days and before were popular and wrote plenty about suicide.
This is another good description that is going so unnoticed in this thread. Emo is a genre of music. Scene kids look (and i guess act) a certain way, people call this emo but it is scene. I don't know if certain people are just being difficult on this subject or what or if they just don't want to listen ( i also want to clear up my stance, i'm arguing this thread simply on the basis of musical ignorance, i am not a fan of Linkin Park, Panic!, FoB, etc, i am also not a scene kid, i am not a fan of real Emo music, i just would rather have people get some things straight). Your thread should say "why are scene kids considered "cool'" or something of that sort, if that was the case i would have looked at the thread and walked away, i'm not interested in scene, i dont find scene cool, i couldn't care less why people think it is cool, but this started as a discussion about the above mentioned bands being emo, that is simply incorrect it is not true emo. If i meet someone who is homosexual and i tell someone "yeah, they are gay i am using the term gay correctly, if i say "amperepunx is an emo group" i am using the term emo correctly, if i see a heterosexual person and have something against their style and say "that person is so gay i'm using the term gay incorectly, if i say "LP, FoB, Panic!, etc is emo" im using the term emo incorrectly, if i see a scene kid, dressed in black with a dumb haircut and say "they're so emo" i'm using emo incorectly, even though that has become a slang way to use the term im using it wrong, if i'm in a bad situation and so "oh, this is so gay i'm using gay incorectly, even though that has become a slang way to use the term it is still incorrect. This thread is driving me crazy, for every person who seems to know something about musical genres there are 10 people to say "no! that song is sad it is sooo emo!!" Oh, and to the person who said something about 'any song can be labeled emo" (based on lyrics) that just isn't true, depressing lyrics don't make a group emo. A sad country song cannot be emo, the music is country, the lyrics do not make the genre. Musical genres are laregley determined by the instruments used, the style of the music, the style of singing, etc, not just lyrics. That is why we have genres like Metal, Rock, Country, Rap, etc and not genres like "Sad", "Happy" "Indifferent" those are emotions, not genres, the emotion of a song does not determine a songs genre.The term "emo" has been coined randomly in order to describe scene kids.
Scene kids are kids who follow the fashion of popular metal and punk. At the moment bands such as Atreyu, Avenged Sevenfold, Aiden and Fallout boyare popularising skinny black jeans, dyed black hair in an 80's romantic style, dark, thick eyeliner and band merch such as blackhoodies with roses and guns and other such symbolism. The kids see it. The kids follow.
Travis Barker (the Blink 182 drummer) can be blamed for much scenedom, as he started the 'Famous Stars and Straps' clothing label. If you see anyone with clothing or accessories adorned by an 'F*', well, thats Famous. Thanks Travis...
The whole self harm thing is a small minority making an impression that the majority suffer for. LOTS of people self harm who aren't scene, so whatever.
Emo is a genre, and as it has been hammered down in this thread TIME and TIME again, not ONE of the bands people are listing as emo, are emo.
The topic title should be "Why is scene considered cool?"
And my answer to that is - kids are impressionable. Always have been, always will be.
LOL...
"panterar must b emo! hav u herd semetry gatezz!?"
Jenova_Flare
Best post.Current Emo for dumbasses with no clue:
http://www.myspace.com/amperepunx
http://www.myspace.com/sinaloa
http://www.myspace.com/lifeatthesespeedspdx
Three bands. Get down with it.
NearTheEnd
Why does anyone care, really?LukeAF24Because the people like this who mis label groups are most likely the same one who make blanket statements like "(insert any genre) Sucks!" and that is simply ignorant. People judge music for incorrect reasons. People decide they hate a group because they are popular, they hate a certain group because "ALL METAL/RAP/Whatever SUCKS!". Like the other night, people started saying "METAL SUCKS" because they don't like certain groups, hence the whol genre must suck, well no that isn't right, they have no clue what Metal really is, and what they were hating was actually more like Death and Thrash metal (with some Hair metal hate thrown in for good luck) but because they don't understand what a genre is defined by they just make ignorant, blanket statements. (By the way, i apologize that most of my posts are just coming up as a wall of text, they are all typed, spaced and arranged nicely, but i don't know if it is Opera or GS or what but when i click that submit button all my formating goes to hell, so i apologize, i know it makes stuff a lot harder to read)
It just came outta nowhere it seems.One day Guns N' Roses and Nirvana are ruling the rock world jimmygraceKurt Cobain was the first whiny emo to make it big.
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