Why is there no more 80's Styled hard rock being produced?

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#51 auron_16
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It's certainly got nothing to do with lack of talent. Slash from Guns N Roses is still alive, and so is Joey from Def Leppard etc.. So my question is this, why isn't any new '80's hard rock' being produced? Listen to Guns N' Roses Chinese Democracy album, then listen to Estranged and Sweet Child O' Mine or Welcome to the Jungle, and you can hear a very distinct difference in the style and sound of the music... Why can't bands compose songs that evoke the '80s' feel? th3warr1or
You are my new best friend. And it doesn't have to do with the "'80's" feel. In fact, GnR are a very UN-80's band. They were famous for helping bring an end to the stereoptypical 80's band image.
Because they finally realize how utterly boring that **** was.Darth-Caedus
And Caedus, I respect your opinion, but please don't go calling out other bands like that.
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="viva_hate"]Yes... And the 1340s were THE golden age of bubonic plague. Your point?IWKYB
So you think that Linkin Park is better than Guns N Roses then?

Linkin Park is new metal and Guns N Roses are Hard Rock, so GnR is hell of alot better. Either way they are both very overrated bands.

you have no clue what you're talking about.
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#53 majoras_wrath
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[QUOTE="auron_16"][QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"] So you think that Linkin Park is better than Guns N Roses then?

Linkin Park is new metal and Guns N Roses are Hard Rock, so GnR is hell of alot better. Either way they are both very overrated bands.

you have no clue what you're talking about.

Are you offended by people disliking 80's rock that much? :|
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#54 auron_16
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="auron_16"][QUOTE="IWKYB"] Linkin Park is new metal and Guns N Roses are Hard Rock, so GnR is hell of alot better. Either way they are both very overrated bands.

you have no clue what you're talking about.

Are you offended by people disliking 80's rock that much? :|

It's not that. It's just that people go around hating bands that just don't need to be hated like that. I totally and completely understand and respect opinions, but think, calling a band out? That's the culmination of many people's hopes and dreams. Just asking for people to be considerate. And yes, I'm probably the biggest fan of Guns N Roses on GS, and I *could* argue why they aren't overrated, but that's not really much an argument. I *can* prove how and they deserve respect.
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#55 RAMRODtheMASTER
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Some newer metal bands are bringing back 80s style of traditional heavy metal.
Enforcer
White Wizzard
Cauldron
Crystal Viper

Steel Horse

It's not necessarily rock, but it's 80s inspired.

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#56 viva_hate
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[QUOTE="viva_hate"]Yes... And the 1340s were THE golden age of bubonic plague. Your point?th3warr1or
So you think that Linkin Park is better than Guns N Roses then?



Way to narrow it down man, it's not like there are other bands worth considering beside those two, right? That sure seems like a fair way to pit '80s hard rock against nowadays' music...

Seriously man, that's like asking me if I thought Eyepet was better than Gears of War in a console war argument...

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#57 MagnumPI
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It has beenplayed out.

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#58 cornholio157
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Airbourne? But I wouldn't know as I've never listened to them Juggernaut140

i was going to mention them, they sound like AC/DC on to much, to young, to fast. i dont know about other stuff its the only song ive heard.

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#59 Crazyguy105
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Because this generation, people don't need talent to get record deals.

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#60 btaylor2404
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[QUOTE="auron_16"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="auron_16"] you have no clue what you're talking about.

Are you offended by people disliking 80's rock that much? :|

It's not that. It's just that people go around hating bands that just don't need to be hated like that. I totally and completely understand and respect opinions, but think, calling a band out? That's the culmination of many people's hopes and dreams. Just asking for people to be considerate. And yes, I'm probably the biggest fan of Guns N Roses on GS, and I *could* argue why they aren't overrated, but that's not really much an argument. I *can* prove how and they deserve respect.

I'm with you 100% GNR then, and now are one of my top two or three bands. All of their albums (especially the first 3) are just as good today. Appetite is as good as anything nearly any rock band will put out this year, or next IMO.
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#61 Juggernaut140
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]Airbourne? But I wouldn't know as I've never listened to them cornholio157

i was going to mention them, they sound like AC/DC on to much, to young, to fast. i dont know about other stuff its the only song ive heard.

Yeah, I didn't like that at all. TC probably will though
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#62 auron_16
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[QUOTE="btaylor2404"][QUOTE="auron_16"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Are you offended by people disliking 80's rock that much? :|

It's not that. It's just that people go around hating bands that just don't need to be hated like that. I totally and completely understand and respect opinions, but think, calling a band out? That's the culmination of many people's hopes and dreams. Just asking for people to be considerate. And yes, I'm probably the biggest fan of Guns N Roses on GS, and I *could* argue why they aren't overrated, but that's not really much an argument. I *can* prove how and they deserve respect.

I'm with you 100% GNR then, and now are one of my top two or three bands. All of their albums (especially the first 3) are just as good today. Appetite is as good as anything nearly any rock band will put out this year, or next IMO.

Haha are you really?! And yes, I concur. It is the highest selling debut album of all time for a reason.
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[QUOTE="auron_16"][QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"] So you think that Linkin Park is better than Guns N Roses then?

Linkin Park is new metal and Guns N Roses are Hard Rock, so GnR is hell of alot better. Either way they are both very overrated bands.

you have no clue what you're talking about.

Oh but I do. You just don't like my opinion. Personally I'm a Sabbath, Maiden, Priest guy if you don't like em or think they are overrated that is your opinion so whatever, don't cry foul.
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#64 auron_16
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[QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="auron_16"][QUOTE="IWKYB"] Linkin Park is new metal and Guns N Roses are Hard Rock, so GnR is hell of alot better. Either way they are both very overrated bands.

you have no clue what you're talking about.

Oh but I do. You just don't like my opinion. Personally I'm a Sabbath, Maiden, Priest guy if you don't like em or think they are overrated that is your opinion so whatever, don't cry foul.

Did you read my other post? read that, then reply.
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#65 one_plum
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If our current generation and decade are that embarrassing, why further embarrassing ourselves by copying what defined the previous decades? Our generation will be further recognized as one with lack of creativity and originality.

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#66 IWKYB
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I did read it. What a ridiculous post. I am not going around hating this particular glam-hard rock band in the whole forum right? And what "culmination of many people's hopes and dreams" do you mean? They aren't deep. They are known for songs about cocaine and love ballads. (November Rain is the only song I fit redeemable. Great song) Just because you love a band doesn't mean I have to and I don't have to not post what I think about em. It's not like I said they are the worst in the world or something. Posting you know nothing doesn't help either when somebody doesn't like something you like.

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#67 auron_16
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It's not that. It's just that people go around hating bands that just don't need to be hated like that. I totally and completely understand and respect opinions, but think, calling a band out? That's the culmination of many people's hopes and dreams. Just asking for people to be considerate.

I did read it. What a ridiculous post. I am not going around hating this particular glam-hard rock band in the whole forum right? And what "culmination of many people's hopes and dreams" do you mean? They aren't deep. They are known for songs about cocaine and love ballads. (November Rain is the only song I fit redeemable. Great song) Just because you love a band doesn't mean I have to and I don't have to not post what I think about em. It's not like I said they are the worst in the world or something.

IWKYB
I'm not asking you to love them. Just to give proper respect to their music and to other's opinions. I haven't said a thing against the groups you listed. And as for "culminations of many people's hopes and dreams," do you know how many people are involved with creating just ONE album? How many people make their living doing that? Have respect fo their work.
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#68 Darthkaiser
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Megadeath is still standing :?
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#69 KG86
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Ugh rock during the 80's was awful.

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#70 IWKYB
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Megadeath is still standing :?Darthkaiser
It's Megadeth. :D auron: You respect my opinion? Don't question it. I don't have to respect people for creating anything either. I know this is gamespot and all but you can't make me respect things just because.

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#71 auron_16
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[QUOTE="Darthkaiser"]Megadeath is still standing :?IWKYB

It's Megadeth. :D auron: You respect my opinion? Don't question it. I don't have to respect people for creating anything either. I know this is gamespot and all but you can't make me respect things just because.

So you decide to be a ****head for no good reason? Right.
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#72 majoras_wrath
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[QUOTE="IWKYB"]

[QUOTE="Darthkaiser"]Megadeath is still standing :?auron_16

It's Megadeth. :D auron: You respect my opinion? Don't question it. I don't have to respect people for creating anything either. I know this is gamespot and all but you can't make me respect things just because.

So you decide to be a ****head for no good reason? Right.

You can't respect his opinion on a bands music? Nowhere did I see him say "I hate Axl Rose and I hope he dies" he's just saying their music isn't very good.

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#73 IWKYB
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[QUOTE="IWKYB"]

[QUOTE="Darthkaiser"]Megadeath is still standing :?auron_16

It's Megadeth. :D auron: You respect my opinion? Don't question it. I don't have to respect people for creating anything either. I know this is gamespot and all but you can't make me respect things just because.

So you decide to be a ****head for no good reason? Right.

I'm not the one forcing people to have respect for something they care very little about. Look here, don't focus on me and expect me to love what I don't, because like any other sane person I won't!
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#74 deathtarget04
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Times change...

Though 80's rock/metal is my 2nd favourite decade ever.. GNR, Pink floyd, Metallica, Ozzy Osbourne, Van halen, ACDC, Iron maiden, Twisted sister etc...

And its funny reading the hate comments.

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#75 VendettaRed07
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because it really sucks. It was fun at the time, and funny to listen to now, but ugh.. they seriously did all they can do with it then and theres no point in digging any deeper in it

like.. I love iron maiden.. I used to love metallica but I got sick of them. and.. thats it lol thats all the 80s metal I can stand

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#76 Aquat1cF1sh
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Probably because record companies think they'll make more money with music that sounds, well, more modern. And from a business standpoint that's not exactly a bad idea.
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#77 -Iconoclast-
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Because it's bad music.

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#78 MagnumPI
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Because this generation, people don't need talent to get record deals.

Crazyguy105

That's true. The biggest market is teenagers. Teenagers spendmuch of their money and time buying music and concert tickets. Also listening and talking about music. When they are young their intrest in music is rudimentry therefore they are happy with twanging.

No band or mucisan needs talent. All they need is an image, a catchy name ane ONE catchy song. With proper marketinga publishercan hustle that and turn itinto a hit. The market is... preteens or teenagers, not adults.

Traditionally there was a standard to music. Everybody was required to learn how to play aninstrument and read music. They don't make kids do that anymore therefore there is no standard to music because there areno expectations. These days anytone def person can be a rockstar. Doesn't matter if it's good, it's not art, it's just product.

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#79 IWKYB
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Times change...

Though 80's rock/metal is my 2nd favourite decade ever.. GNR, Pink floyd, Metallica, Ozzy Osbourne, Van halen, ACDC, Iron maiden, Twisted sister etc...

And its funny reading the hate comments.

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Pink Floyd's best albums are all in the 70's. The last 3 albums they did where in the 80's. Or did you like those 3 albums? And are not hard rock. Hell only Halen and ACDC in your whole list is hard rock. Twisted Sister is glam, Pink Floyd is Progressive rock ,Metallica is Thrash Metal (well in the 80's anyway) and Iron Maiden were Heavy Metal.
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#80 Shmiity
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Im glad its gone.Im a big fan of 80's pop. and Especially the new bands who have new wave influences, like The Killers, The Strokes, Interpol, ect. But I think 80's hard rock should stay dead.

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#81 IWKYB
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Im glad its gone.Im a big fan of 80's pop. and Especially the new bands who have new wave influences, like The Killers, The Strokes, Interpol, ect. But I think 80's hard rock should stay dead.

Shmiity
Keyword being hard rock right?
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#82 Darthkaiser
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Because it's bad music.

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Hell no! The 80s defined how music it's nowdays most of today's artist were heavily influenced by the 80s' ones. If 80s music was THAT bad today's music wouldn't be any better
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#83 IWKYB
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[QUOTE="-Iconoclast-"]

Because it's bad music.

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Hell no! The 80s defined how music it's nowdays most of today's artist were heavily influenced by the 80s' ones. If 80s music was THAT bad today's music wouldn't be any better

He didn't say all 80's music was bad the original topic calls for 80's HARD ROCK style music. Kinda like the disbanded group "The Darkness". Hell the 80's era had great music much better than the lazy 90's and the dull 2000's.
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#84 ChubbyGuy40
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Because anyone can make computer-generated crap and call it music. That's pretty much my outlook on it anyway. I despise almost any rap/hip-hop/techno/trance/rave or whatever. It just doesn't sound like anyone puts effort, soul, or feeling into it.

80s is my favorite era of music, mostly rock/metal as those are my favorite genres. It's sad you don't see Glam/hair style bands anymore, a lot of them were really good imo. But if you do want a recently reformed glam band, STEEL PANTHER. These guys are f'in great and definitely have the awesome 80s rock/metal sound.

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#85 starfox15
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It's been said already, but it's a sign of the times. People got sick of listening to blistering rock and switched to grunge in the 90's, and garbage since the late 90's.

Speak with your wallet and don't buy crappy music.

Speak with your wallet and don't buy crappy music.

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#86 Shadow2k6
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Metal or gtfo.

Take Metal out of the 80s and you have a very mediocre decade for music.

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#87 coolbeans90
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People didn't like it. Sad cause I kinda like it though...

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Because it's not a fad anymore. It's all about Justin Bieber now, brah.

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#89 IWKYB
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Because it's not a fad anymore. It's all about Justin Bieber now, brah.

Gaming-Planet

What's a 13 year old girl rapping about anyway? It is a girl right? Well a man after the operation. (that voice :D)

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#90 TyrantDragon55
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GnR was definitely not an 80s style band, or atleast not classic AFD - GNR Lies GNR. Now the Use Your Illusions era GNR (when Axl Rose decided he wanted to be Elton John) you might have a point on that one.

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#91 applesxc47
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There have been a few Old-Metal styled bands starting out over the last couple of years.

Look up: Cauldron (Canada), White Wizzard (America) and Enforcer (Sweden)

All awesome.

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#92 IWKYB
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There have been a few Old-Metal styled bands starting out over the last couple of years.

Look up: Cauldron (Canada), White Wizzard (America) and Enforcer (Sweden)

All awesome.

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#93 optiow
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I like that music, but it is in the past.
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#94 Lockedge
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[QUOTE="-Iconoclast-"]

Because it's bad music.

Darthkaiser
Hell no! The 80s defined how music it's nowdays most of today's artist were heavily influenced by the 80s' ones. If 80s music was THAT bad today's music wouldn't be any better

80's music was the beginning of the end for artist control in the marketplace. The 80s started a large shift in power with the label's marketing teams, bringing a slow death to widespread word-of-mouth and fan-spurred promotion. Ever wonder why you hear a lot of the same music on the same rotations on the radio? It's because tha entire broadcast was bought and paid for, and they were told exactly what to play. Ask for something different on request hour and they probably won't have it, and it won't get played. You could pop by and give the radio station a copy of your band's work and chances are they wouldn't play it outside of the 1AM-3AM timeslot. Small label and independent marketing tools were mangled at best, and broken at worst, and remain as such to this day, even with the internet. That's probably not what you were getting at with your post, but whatever. :P 80's music had its influence, but the main reason music is as it is today, is because of how the labels began their power grab in the 80s.
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#95 th3warr1or
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To everyone say 80s Hard rock sucked...

Tyketto - Forever Young (1991)Whitesnake - Here I Go Again (1987)Def Leppard - Pour Some Sugar On Me (1987)Guns N Roses - Welcome To The Jungle (1987)Guns N Roses - Sweet Child O' Mine (1987)Guns N Roses - You Could Be Mine (1991)Survivor - I Can't Hold Back (1984) No, it doesn't suck. It's a hell lot better than the trash we get today.
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#96 cyborg100000
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Surely there are some underground bands that still do that kind of music?

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#97 auron_16
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Surely there are some underground bands that still do that kind of music?

cyborg100000

yes, but those bands don't really make it because they don't have an easily marketable sound/image.
To everyone say 80s Hard rock sucked...
Tyketto - Forever Young (1991)Whitesnake - Here I Go Again (1987)Def Leppard - Pour Some Sugar On Me (1987)Guns N Roses - Welcome To The Jungle (1987)Guns N Roses - Sweet Child O' Mine (1987)Guns N Roses - You Could Be Mine (1991)Survivor - I Can't Hold Back (1984) No, it doesn't suck. It's a hell lot better than the trash we get today. th3warr1or
You forgot Nightrain :P

GnR was definitely not an 80s ****band, or atleast not ****c AFD - GNR Lies GNR. Now the Use Your Illusions era GNR (when Axl Rose decided he wanted to be Elton John) you might have a point on that one.

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Well what you have to remember is that the UYI albums were mostly a collection of songs they had written years and years before- November Rain was already written around the time AFD was put out. He didn't decide to become Elton John, he always had it in him.

And as for that user I was arguing with, you obviously aren't going to listen to logic or common courtesy, so this conversation is over.

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#98 Mr_Manikin52
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Listen to "The Sword".

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#99 bobberts7
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if you look around can find few bands that ar like that but im not sharing
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#100 Lab392
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Bands get tired of playing the same music, and the majority of people get tired of hearing the same music. They want something new and fresh, so pop culture changes.