Why not name the movie "The Joker"?

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#1 Ilived
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Come on, we all know the reason why everyone is going to watch this movie. Nobody gives a damn about Batman and the guy playing him, everyone is there to see Joker or to see a dead actor's last movie. I haven't seen the movie yet as $11 plus waiting in a huge ass line isn't worth it no matter what movie it is but the huge interest in a villain is quite odd. Everyone likes the bad guy in this case, but why? He is still a villain, he is still murdering people so what's the big deal? Why so not serious?
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#2 lucas_kelly
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Its not his last movie.
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#3 SaintBlaze
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I was hyped for TDK way before I saw what the Joker would look like and definitely before Heath's death. :|
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#4 CJL182
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You'll understand when you see the film. The Joker does indeed steal the show though lol.
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#5 forgetwatyahear
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Its not his last movie. lucas_kelly
heath ledger is dead
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#6 zakkro
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Christian Bale is cool...
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Mostly because Heath Ledger died before the movie was out.
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#8 SPESSMAHREEN
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I like Batman :o
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I wanted to see it the minute it was announced, while Heath Ledger was still alive.

Trust me though, it is completely worth it. It's one of the best movies I've ever seen, and definitely the best I've seen this year.

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#11 SaintBlaze
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[QUOTE="lucas_kelly"]Its not his last movie. dude
heath ledger is dead

It's not his last movie though. This is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imaginarium_of_Doctor_Parnassus

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#12 Rekunta
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heath ledger is dead

I believe he finished shooting a different film to be released soon that wrapped up shortly after his death, same as TDK. Could be wrong though.

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#13 Sora529
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heath ledger is dead

I believe he finished shooting a different film to be released soon that wrapped up shortly after his death, same as TDK. Could be wrong though.

Rekunta

He actually died during the filming of said movie. I can't remember the name of it though.

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#14 SaintBlaze
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[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

heath ledger is dead

I believe he finished shooting a different film to be released soon that wrapped up shortly after his death, same as TDK. Could be wrong though.

Sora529

He actually died during the filming of said movie. I can't remember the name of it though.

Read my last post.....

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#15 Scarker
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[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

heath ledger is dead

I believe he finished shooting a different film to be released soon that wrapped up shortly after his death, same as TDK. Could be wrong though.

Sora529

He actually died during the filming of said movie. I can't remember the name of it though.

Yeah it was some wierd movie name, but apparently Johnny Depp, and Collin Ferrell are both replacing him as alter-egos after Heath Ledger's footage of whatever character they're playing.

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#16 SaintLeonidas
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I wanted to see it the minute it was announced, while Heath Ledger was still alive.

Trust me though, it is completely worth it. It's one of the best movies I've ever seen, and definitely the best I've seen this year.

Sora529

Yeah, I was hyped before it was even announced who would play The Joker.

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#17 hip-hop-cola2
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[QUOTE="Sora529"][QUOTE="Rekunta"]

heath ledger is dead

I believe he finished shooting a different film to be released soon that wrapped up shortly after his death, same as TDK. Could be wrong though.

Scarker

He actually died during the filming of said movie. I can't remember the name of it though.

Yeah it was some wierd movie name, but apparently Johnny Depp, and Collin Ferrell are both replacing him as alter-egos after Heath Ledger's footage of whatever character they're playing.

this is true, its annoying when they try to add hype to the film with this "the joker killed him" rubbish

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#18 mfrank0607
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Could it be the fact that people like Super hero movies, or Batman is a popular character, I didn't see The Crow having people flock to it when Brandon Lee was killed

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Christian Bale took second seat to Heath Ledger, but the movie was still very much about Batman. I loved Batman Begins so I was naturally excited for Dark Knight.

See the movie first, pal, then make your lame assumptions

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#20 Ilived
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[QUOTE="Sora529"]

I wanted to see it the minute it was announced, while Heath Ledger was still alive.

Trust me though, it is completely worth it. It's one of the best movies I've ever seen, and definitely the best I've seen this year.

SaintLeonidas

Yeah, I was hyped before it was even announced who would play The Joker.

Is this why this movie will make a lot more money than Batman Begins? I'm not accusing you or everyone, just most of the people.

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#21 GrammarKills
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Christian Bale makes a good Batman but Heath does steal the movie as The Joker.
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#22 deactivated-5a84f3399aa1c
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Whatever, this was Harvey Dent: The Movie.
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#23 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="Sora529"]

I wanted to see it the minute it was announced, while Heath Ledger was still alive.

Trust me though, it is completely worth it. It's one of the best movies I've ever seen, and definitely the best I've seen this year.

Ilived

Yeah, I was hyped before it was even announced who would play The Joker.

Is this why this movie will make a lot more money than Batman Begins? I'm not accusing you or everyone, just most of the people.

It is a sequel to a very popular Batman film, with a large following, Joker or not it was going to make more then the first.

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#24 Ilived
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Christian Bale took second seat to Heath Ledger, but the movie was still very much about Batman. I loved Batman Begins so I was naturally excited for Dark Knight.

See the movie first, pal, then make your lame assumptions

DivergeUnify

My assumption is that Joker stole the show, correct me if I"m wrong. I think that a lot if not most people who went to see this movie was the fact that Joker is in it. Batman is probably the most popular hero while Joker is the most popular villian.

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I remember insiders talking how about freakishly startling Ledger's performance was when he was still alive. I have no doubt that people would still have an interest to see this movie if Ledger was still alive. And yes, the Joker DOES play a large part in this movie, but it's not entirely about him. There is a lot going on with Bruce Wayne and his alter ego as well, not to mention the complex rise and fall of Harvey Dent and the great sacrafice made at the end. The Joker is only one part of a very exceptional film.

You're right, everyone shouldn't see it just because of the Joker; everyone should see it because it's one of the best made films of this generation.

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The movie is equal parts about Batman, the Joker, Gordon and Dent.
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#27 Ilived
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I remember insiders talking how about freakishly startling Ledger's performance was when he was still alive. I have no doubt that people would still have an interest to see this movie if Ledger was still alive. And yes, the Joker DOES play a large part in this movie, but it's not entirely about him. There is a lot going on with Bruce Wayne and his alter ego as well, not to mention the complex rise and fall of Harvey Dent and the great sacrafice made at the end. The Joker is only one part of a very exceptional film.

You're right, everyone shouldn't see it just because of the Joker; everyone should see it because it's one of the best made films of this generation.

JustPlainLucas

Hey did you just give away the ending to someone(ME) who hasn't seen it yet? You kinda did.

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#28 JustPlainLucas
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

Christian Bale took second seat to Heath Ledger, but the movie was still very much about Batman. I loved Batman Begins so I was naturally excited for Dark Knight.

See the movie first, pal, then make your lame assumptions

Ilived

My assumption is that Joker stole the show, correct me if I"m wrong. I think that a lot if not most people who went to see this movie was the fact that Joker is in it. Batman is probably the most popular hero while Joker is the most popular villian.

And why did people go see Jurassic Park? For the dinosaurs. Just about every movie has one thing about it that grabs people's attention and make them want to see it. The Joker is the attention grabber here, and as I said in the previous post I just made, there's a whole lot more to love about this movie that will definately make them glad they came. Oh, I also want to add something... not only did Ledger perform the greatest Joker, but he, IMO, performed the greatest villain of any movie.

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#29 JustPlainLucas
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[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]

I remember insiders talking how about freakishly startling Ledger's performance was when he was still alive. I have no doubt that people would still have an interest to see this movie if Ledger was still alive. And yes, the Joker DOES play a large part in this movie, but it's not entirely about him. There is a lot going on with Bruce Wayne and his alter ego as well, not to mention the complex rise and fall of Harvey Dent and the great sacrafice made at the end. The Joker is only one part of a very exceptional film.

You're right, everyone shouldn't see it just because of the Joker; everyone should see it because it's one of the best made films of this generation.

Ilived

Hey did you just give away the ending to someone(ME) who hasn't seen it yet? You kinda did.

Well... if you know who Harvey Dent is, you should know he becomes Two Face.. and yes, I did say sacrafice but I didn't go into any detail of what that is. Sorry if it seemed like I was giving something away.

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#30 SaintBlaze
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[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

Christian Bale took second seat to Heath Ledger, but the movie was still very much about Batman. I loved Batman Begins so I was naturally excited for Dark Knight.

See the movie first, pal, then make your lame assumptions

JustPlainLucas

My assumption is that Joker stole the show, correct me if I"m wrong. I think that a lot if not most people who went to see this movie was the fact that Joker is in it. Batman is probably the most popular hero while Joker is the most popular villian.

And why did people go see Jurassic Park? For the dinosaurs. Just about every movie has one thing about it that grabs people's attention and make them want to see it. The Joker is the attention grabber here, and as I said in the previous post I just made, there's a whole lot more to love about this movie that will definately make them glad they came. Oh, I also want to add something... not only did Ledger perform the greatest Joker, but he, IMO, performed the greatest villain of any movie.

I was telling my friends the same thing when we were leaving the theater.:P

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#31 Ilived
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[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

Christian Bale took second seat to Heath Ledger, but the movie was still very much about Batman. I loved Batman Begins so I was naturally excited for Dark Knight.

See the movie first, pal, then make your lame assumptions

JustPlainLucas

My assumption is that Joker stole the show, correct me if I"m wrong. I think that a lot if not most people who went to see this movie was the fact that Joker is in it. Batman is probably the most popular hero while Joker is the most popular villian.

And why did people go see Jurassic Park? For the dinosaurs. Just about every movie has one thing about it that grabs people's attention and make them want to see it. The Joker is the attention grabber here, and as I said in the previous post I just made, there's a whole lot more to love about this movie that will definately make them glad they came. Oh, I also want to add something... not only did Ledger perform the greatest Joker, but he, IMO, performed the greatest villain of any movie.

A movie like this you would assume that you know...BATMAN would grab peoples attention not the villain.

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#32 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

Christian Bale took second seat to Heath Ledger, but the movie was still very much about Batman. I loved Batman Begins so I was naturally excited for Dark Knight.

See the movie first, pal, then make your lame assumptions

Ilived

My assumption is that Joker stole the show, correct me if I"m wrong. I think that a lot if not most people who went to see this movie was the fact that Joker is in it. Batman is probably the most popular hero while Joker is the most popular villian.

I will say that some people did go just to see Ledgers last performance, but Id only contribute that to about 5 percent. The rest are just fans of Batman, Batman Begins, or just based off the trailers, and what they saw they were interested. And obviosuly a lot of people went to see it for the joker, but thats like saying a lot of people go see Spiderman 3 for Venom, both are part of the story and are obviously going to attract people.

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MAN! this movie its so cool that i want to see it again XD
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#34 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="Sora529"]

I wanted to see it the minute it was announced, while Heath Ledger was still alive.

Trust me though, it is completely worth it. It's one of the best movies I've ever seen, and definitely the best I've seen this year.

Ilived

Yeah, I was hyped before it was even announced who would play The Joker.

Is this why this movie will make a lot more money than Batman Begins? I'm not accusing you or everyone, just most of the people.

It might make more money, because it's the sequel to a successful movie :|
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I was hyped about the movie after I saw Batman begins last month (I know I'm very late), but I do have to admit, Joker's performance was amazing beyond comparison to the rest of the cast.
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#36 JustPlainLucas
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[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

Christian Bale took second seat to Heath Ledger, but the movie was still very much about Batman. I loved Batman Begins so I was naturally excited for Dark Knight.

See the movie first, pal, then make your lame assumptions

SaintLeonidas

My assumption is that Joker stole the show, correct me if I"m wrong. I think that a lot if not most people who went to see this movie was the fact that Joker is in it. Batman is probably the most popular hero while Joker is the most popular villian.

I will say that some people did go just to see Ledgers last performance, but Id only contribute that to about 5 percent. The rest are just fans of Batman, Batman Begins, or just based off the trailers, and what they saw they were interested. And obviosuly a lot of people went to see it for the joker, but thats like saying a lot of people go see Spiderman 3 for Venom, both are part of the story and are obviously going to attract people.

Hah. I was just about to bring up the point of Venom in Spider-Man 3. :P

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#37 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

Christian Bale took second seat to Heath Ledger, but the movie was still very much about Batman. I loved Batman Begins so I was naturally excited for Dark Knight.

See the movie first, pal, then make your lame assumptions

Ilived

My assumption is that Joker stole the show, correct me if I"m wrong. I think that a lot if not most people who went to see this movie was the fact that Joker is in it. Batman is probably the most popular hero while Joker is the most popular villian.

Most people whent to see the movie, because they liked/loved Batman Begins... It's really not a hard concept :|

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#38 Ilived
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[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="Sora529"]

I wanted to see it the minute it was announced, while Heath Ledger was still alive.

Trust me though, it is completely worth it. It's one of the best movies I've ever seen, and definitely the best I've seen this year.

DivergeUnify

Yeah, I was hyped before it was even announced who would play The Joker.

Is this why this movie will make a lot more money than Batman Begins? I'm not accusing you or everyone, just most of the people.

It might make more money, because it's the sequel to a successful movie :|

Probably. It would be a lot easier if you just admit you were there to see Joker...doesn't have to be the only reason...but just admit it.

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#39 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

Christian Bale took second seat to Heath Ledger, but the movie was still very much about Batman. I loved Batman Begins so I was naturally excited for Dark Knight.

See the movie first, pal, then make your lame assumptions

Ilived

My assumption is that Joker stole the show, correct me if I"m wrong. I think that a lot if not most people who went to see this movie was the fact that Joker is in it. Batman is probably the most popular hero while Joker is the most popular villian.

And why did people go see Jurassic Park? For the dinosaurs. Just about every movie has one thing about it that grabs people's attention and make them want to see it. The Joker is the attention grabber here, and as I said in the previous post I just made, there's a whole lot more to love about this movie that will definately make them glad they came. Oh, I also want to add something... not only did Ledger perform the greatest Joker, but he, IMO, performed the greatest villain of any movie.

A movie like this you would assume that you know...BATMAN would grab peoples attention not the villain.

The villians have always been a big part of Batman...
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="Sora529"]

I wanted to see it the minute it was announced, while Heath Ledger was still alive.

Trust me though, it is completely worth it. It's one of the best movies I've ever seen, and definitely the best I've seen this year.

Ilived

Yeah, I was hyped before it was even announced who would play The Joker.

Is this why this movie will make a lot more money than Batman Begins? I'm not accusing you or everyone, just most of the people.

It might make more money, because it's the sequel to a successful movie :|

Probably. It would be a lot easier if you just admit you were there to see Joker...doesn't have to be the only reason...but just admit it.

Yes, it was a big reason i went, i mean watch the damn trailers lol, he was so awesome in them, add that, the new bat suit, the fact its a sequel to batman begins, the actors, all together and I was right there in line.

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MAN! this movie its so cool that i want to see it again XDpayucon

Then go see it again! =D Help TDK smash more box office records lol.

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#42 DivergeUnify
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Probably. It would be a lot easier if you just admit you were there to see Joker...doesn't have to be the only reason...but just admit it.

Ilived

It wasn't, though... What you're trying to force me to say is on level with trying to get me to say i saw Wanted, because of Angelina Jolie's ass.

I saw Dark Knight, because Batman Begins was ****ing amazing imo and took the Batman franchise to a grittier, tangible world

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#43 Ilived
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[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]

Christian Bale took second seat to Heath Ledger, but the movie was still very much about Batman. I loved Batman Begins so I was naturally excited for Dark Knight.

See the movie first, pal, then make your lame assumptions

DivergeUnify

My assumption is that Joker stole the show, correct me if I"m wrong. I think that a lot if not most people who went to see this movie was the fact that Joker is in it. Batman is probably the most popular hero while Joker is the most popular villian.

And why did people go see Jurassic Park? For the dinosaurs. Just about every movie has one thing about it that grabs people's attention and make them want to see it. The Joker is the attention grabber here, and as I said in the previous post I just made, there's a whole lot more to love about this movie that will definately make them glad they came. Oh, I also want to add something... not only did Ledger perform the greatest Joker, but he, IMO, performed the greatest villain of any movie.

A movie like this you would assume that you know...BATMAN would grab peoples attention not the villain.

The villians have always been a big part of Batman...

I don't think it was the case with Batman Begins, at least not for me or anyone else I knew or talked to. Fine friend, you went to see a movie because you are a fan of Batman Begins and I"m sorry for accusing you for that. Though I still don't think I'm wrong about what I said about Joker being a very big reason why so many people are still in line.

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#44 vidplayer8
Member since 2006 • 18549 Posts

i wen' to go c it cuz it looked awesum.

joker or not

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#45 JustPlainLucas
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Probably. It would be a lot easier if you just admit you were there to see Joker...doesn't have to be the only reason...but just admit it.

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It wasn't, though... What you're trying to force me to say is on level with trying to get me to say i saw Wanted, because of Angelina Jolie's ass.

I saw Dark Knight, because Batman Begins was ****ing amazing imo and took the Batman franchise to a grittier, tangible world

They show Jolie's ass in that movie? :o I'm going to see that tomorrow! :P

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#46 club-sandwich
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I wanted to see it after Batman Begins ended. :| (yes when TDK wasn't even announced)
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#47 SaintLeonidas
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I wanted to see it after Batman Begins ended. :| (yes when TDK wasn't even announced)club-sandwich

lol yeah, all I could think when BB ended was, we need a sequel!

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#48 Link256
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For me, just because Batman was big part of my childhood. In my lifetime, Batman Begins was the only Batman motion picture I did not see in theaters (and yes, that even includes Batman and Robin, of which, less said about it, the better).

That, and the trailers looked AMAZING.

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"]I wanted to see it after Batman Begins ended. :| (yes when TDK wasn't even announced)SaintLeonidas

lol yeah, all I could think when BB ended was, we need a sequel!

Even than, person could aruge only because of The Joker teaser. :P

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#49 goodlay
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

My assumption is that Joker stole the show, correct me if I"m wrong. I think that a lot if not most people who went to see this movie was the fact that Joker is in it. Batman is probably the most popular hero while Joker is the most popular villian.

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And why did people go see Jurassic Park? For the dinosaurs. Just about every movie has one thing about it that grabs people's attention and make them want to see it. The Joker is the attention grabber here, and as I said in the previous post I just made, there's a whole lot more to love about this movie that will definately make them glad they came. Oh, I also want to add something... not only did Ledger perform the greatest Joker, but he, IMO, performed the greatest villain of any movie.

A movie like this you would assume that you know...BATMAN would grab peoples attention not the villain.

The villians have always been a big part of Batman...

I don't think it was the case with Batman Begins, at least not for me or anyone else I knew or talked to. Fine friend, you went to see a movie because you are a fan of Batman Begins and I"m sorry for accusing you for that. Though I still don't think I'm wrong about what I said about Joker being a very big reason why so many people are still in line.

I hope you realize the point you are trying to make in this thread is absolutely dumb. "THEY WENT TO SEE THE MOVIE CAUSE THEY WERE INTERESTED IN IT" Wow, really? It doesn't matter what intrigued them, the fact of the matter is they wanted to see the movie. So, why the hell does it matter?

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#50 Yoshi25
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[QUOTE="club-sandwich"]I wanted to see it after Batman Begins ended. :| (yes when TDK wasn't even announced)SaintLeonidas

lol yeah, all I could think when BB ended was, we need a sequel!

Yeah, I can't wait to see Heath's performance in the next Batman. The Joker's bound to make a comeback!