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#1 Gambler_3
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Since 9/11 21672 innocent civilians have lost their lives in pakistan. We continue to lose dozens of people every week in the biggest city of the country, it's a f***** hell to live in.

I dont know what's right and whats a conspiracy but fact is it all happened as a consequence of 9/11 and none of the civilians have anything to do with it.

People think pakistan assists the terrorists, what they dont know is that pakistan is the biggest sufferer of all the countries since it was such a peaceful place to live before 9/11 unlike Afghanistan which had it's troubles for a long time.

If pakistan was a terrorist country then why do so many innocent people continue to lose their lives over there.

I really dont like the special pleading that the 9/11 victims get as if being a US citizen somehow makes it sadder to have died in a terrorist attack. This day should be remembered as a day which triggered events which would eventually result in the deaths of thousands of innocent people in US, afghan, pakistan and all around the world.

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#2 evilrobot1991
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Pakistan is really just a terrible country
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Not just in those 3 places. But around the world.

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#4 Genesis-X
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Because today is 9/11?
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#5 LJS9502_basic
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Because it's 9/11 and because we live in the US.
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Petition the UN and get a special day for Pakistan? Pakistan is definitely an enemy country. I have a very hard time with finding sympathy for them.

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#7 UniverseIX
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I don't. I know that the entire 911 thing is blown out of proportion and used as a nationalistic memorial to incite hatred and war.
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#8 DigitalExile
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Because today is 9/11?Genesis-X
Yeah but where's the special day for the tens of thousands of other victims as a reault of those attacks? Americans certainly don't care if American rockets hit a school somewhere and kill a 100 children.

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Petition the UN and get a special day for Pakistan? Pakistan is definitely an enemy country. I have a very hard time with finding sympathy for them.

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Osama hiding near a military academy and Pakistan supposedly knew nothing. Yeah. Right.
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Osama hiding near a military academy and Pakistan supposedly knew nothing. Yeah. Right.DroidPhysX

Exactly.

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#11 LJS9502_basic
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I don't. I know that the entire 911 thing is blown out of proportion and used as a nationalistic memorial to incite hatred and war.UniverseIX
Really? No one is inciting anything. Just remembering a tragedy.:|
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Pakistan doesn't have much of an excuse when Osama Bin Laden has been hiding near their capital city and right next to a military base for years. It's their fault the country is in bad shape they should be doing something about the terrorists hiding there.
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[QUOTE="Genesis-X"]Because today is 9/11?DigitalExile

Yeah but where's the special day for the tens of thousands of other victims as a reault of those attacks? Americans certainly don't care if American rockets hit a school somewhere and kill a 100 children.

False. The US tries always to mitigate civilian deaths.
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if pakistan wants to remember their dead they're more than welcome to. but dont **** because america wants to remember the victims of a senseless terrorist attack

[QUOTE="Genesis-X"]Because today is 9/11?DigitalExile

Yeah but where's the special day for the tens of thousands of other victims as a reault of those attacks? Americans certainly don't care if American rockets hit a school somewhere and kill a 100 children.

what school was hit with an american rocket that killed 100 children?
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[QUOTE="UniverseIX"]I don't. I know that the entire 911 thing is blown out of proportion and used as a nationalistic memorial to incite hatred and war.LJS9502_basic
Really? No one is inciting anything. Just remembering a tragedy.:|

better to forget the past than to glorify pessimistic times
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9/11 was terrible but many more civillians have died as a result of the war in iraq and afghan
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="UniverseIX"]I don't. I know that the entire 911 thing is blown out of proportion and used as a nationalistic memorial to incite hatred and war.UniverseIX
Really? No one is inciting anything. Just remembering a tragedy.:|

better to forget the past than to glorify pessimistic times

its better honor those who died and those who sacrificed themselves to save lives than to forget about them
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#18 DigitalExile
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[[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="Genesis-X"]Because today is 9/11?LJS9502_basic

Yeah but where's the special day for the tens of thousands of other victims as a reault of those attacks? Americans certainly don't care if American rockets hit a school somewhere and kill a 100 children.

False. The US tries always to mitigate civilian deaths.

"Trying" doesn't bring people back from the dead. Saying "woopsie!" doesn't excuse anything. The American military is causing A LOT of deaths and effectively getting away with it because a) "we're the good guys!" and b) it's not happening in America so no one (i.e. Americans) cares.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="UniverseIX"]I don't. I know that the entire 911 thing is blown out of proportion and used as a nationalistic memorial to incite hatred and war.UniverseIX
Really? No one is inciting anything. Just remembering a tragedy.:|

better to forget the past than to glorify pessimistic times

Those who forget the past are bound to repeat it....
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#20 Reed_Bowie
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I read that there was a recorded civillian death of over 92,000 from the Iraq War alone.

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#21 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]Yeah but where's the special day for the tens of thousands of other victims as a reault of those attacks? Americans certainly don't care if American rockets hit a school somewhere and kill a 100 children.

DigitalExile

False. The US tries always to mitigate civilian deaths.

"Trying" doesn't bring people back from the dead. Saying "woopsie!" doesn't excuse anything. The American military is causing A LOT of deaths and effectively getting away with it because a) "we're the good guys!" and b) it's not happening in America so no one (i.e. Americans) cares.

And that would have been the fault of the Pakistan government since they could have turned him over.;)

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]Yeah but where's the special day for the tens of thousands of other victims as a reault of those attacks? Americans certainly don't care if American rockets hit a school somewhere and kill a 100 children.

DigitalExile

False. The US tries always to mitigate civilian deaths.

"Trying" doesn't bring people back from the dead. Saying "woopsie!" doesn't excuse anything. The American military is causing A LOT of deaths and effectively getting away with it because a) "we're the good guys!" and b) it's not happening in America so no one (i.e. Americans) cares.

This isn't a perfect world buddy take a step out of your bubble and look at reality for a little bit. Your never going to understand unless you put on the uniform and go to war. Not to mention a lot of troops have died due to suicide bombers disguising themselves as civilians. I personally know a lot of guys that did a tour in Afghanistan and now suffer from some major trust issues with anyone not in a uniform including little kids.
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You should think for a sec. If 9/11 didn't spark the war, a lot of those lives as well might not be lost, so 9/11 is responsible for more lost lives then just people who died that day and as a result of complications.

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#24 Pikdum
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Because today is its 10th aniversary and it was the biggest terrorist attack in US history. I do understand where you are coming from though. What I don't understand is why we are still ****ing around in the Middle East. From my understanding many of the people don't want us there any more. Why do we have to police the world? We should have just pursued Osama directly and taken care of him and be done with this imo. Now that we have, why are we still there?

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#25 Reed_Bowie
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You should think for a sec. If 9/11 didn't spark the war, a lot of those lives as well might not be lost, so 9/11 is responsible for more lost lives then just people who died that day and as a result of complications.

SPYDER0416

That's like blaming everyone who died in World War I on Gavrilo Princip.

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#26 DigitalExile
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And that would have been the fault of the Pakistan government since they could have turned him over.;)

LJS9502_basic

IF they even knew he was there. What, every time another country is seeking someone who is in America they have the right to send military forces in and wreck havoc to find them?

This isn't a perfect world buddy take a step out of your bubble and look at reality for a little bit. Your never going to understand unless you put on the uniform and go to war. Not to mention a lot of troops have died due to suicide bombers disguising themselves as civilians. I personally know a lot of guys that did a tour in Afghanistan and now suffer from some major trust issues with anyone not in a uniform including little kids.atony12
So because American soldiers get killed when they invade a foreign country that excuses the US government when they drop bombs on schools and attack civilians and cause massive civilian casualties?

YOU get out of YOUR bubble. America isn't the center of the universe. Your freedoms and liberties arenb't under attack. They are intangible. A bunch of morons crashed planes into buildings and killed 2000 people. The government retaliates by invading 2 countries and 100 thoundsand people end up dead because of it. And you wonder why people hate the US? I don't care if your buddies don't trust children, you seriously wonder why the rest of the world has issues with America?

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[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] False. The US tries always to mitigate civilian deaths.LJS9502_basic

"Trying" doesn't bring people back from the dead. Saying "woopsie!" doesn't excuse anything. The American military is causing A LOT of deaths and effectively getting away with it because a) "we're the good guys!" and b) it's not happening in America so no one (i.e. Americans) cares.

And that would have been the fault of the Pakistan government since they could have turned him over.;)

Maybe they were scared of retaliation from his supporters? It's not like the US is going to protect pakistan from suicide bombings if they handed him over.

Pakistani government helps america and the terrorists bomb the f*** out in the cities killing thousands of people. The government doesnt help america and america threatens to f**** them, what are they supposed to do???

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

And that would have been the fault of the Pakistan government since they could have turned him over.;)

DigitalExile

IF they even knew he was there. What, every time another country is seeking someone who is in America they have the right to send military forces in and wreck havoc to find them?

they can try, they probably wont get very far though

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#29 LJS9502_basic
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[Maybe they were scared of retaliation from his supporters? It's not like the US is going to protect pakistan from suicide bombings if they handed him over.

, what are they supposed to do???

Gambler_3

One has to live with the consequences of one's choices...that includes countries.

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#30 DigitalExile
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[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

And that would have been the fault of the Pakistan government since they could have turned him over.;)

mems_1224

IF they even knew he was there. What, every time another country is seeking someone who is in America they have the right to send military forces in and wreck havoc to find them?

they can try, they probably wont get very far though

That's not the point. The point in America feels like it has the right to do what it wants, like invading foreign countries, but if anyone tried to do that to America it'd be up in arms defending freedom or some ****.

It's hypocritical.

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#31 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

And that would have been the fault of the Pakistan government since they could have turned him over.;)

DigitalExile

IF they even knew he was there. What, every time another country is seeking someone who is in America they have the right to send military forces in and wreck havoc to find them?

they can try, they probably wont get very far though

That's not the point. The point in America feels like it has the right to do what it wants, like invading foreign countries, but if anyone tried to do that to America it'd be up in arms defending freedom or some ****.

It's hypocritical.

The US doesn't stop countries from defending themselves.....thus...it's not hypocritical.
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

And that would have been the fault of the Pakistan government since they could have turned him over.;)

DigitalExile

IF they even knew he was there. What, every time another country is seeking someone who is in America they have the right to send military forces in and wreck havoc to find them?

they can try, they probably wont get very far though

That's not the point. The point in America feels like it has the right to do what it wants, like invading foreign countries, but if anyone tried to do that to America it'd be up in arms defending freedom or some ****.

It's hypocritical.

well we have bigger bombs so we basically can do whatever we want. your point??
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[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]IF they even knew he was there. What, every time another country is seeking someone who is in America they have the right to send military forces in and wreck havoc to find them?LJS9502_basic

they can try, they probably wont get very far though

That's not the point. The point in America feels like it has the right to do what it wants, like invading foreign countries, but if anyone tried to do that to America it'd be up in arms defending freedom or some ****.

It's hypocritical.

The US doesn't stop countries from defending themselves.....thus...it's not hypocritical.

not sure if serious or just stupid
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#34 DigitalExile
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The US doesn't stop countries from defending themselves.....thus...it's not hypocritical.

LJS9502_basic

well we have bigger bombs so we basically can do whatever we want. your point??

mems_1224

My point is a point I cannot openly say on here without probably getting banned.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

And that would have been the fault of the Pakistan government since they could have turned him over.;)

DigitalExile

IF they even knew he was there. What, every time another country is seeking someone who is in America they have the right to send military forces in and wreck havoc to find them?

they can try, they probably wont get very far though

That's not the point. The point in America feels like it has the right to do what it wants, like invading foreign countries, but if anyone tried to do that to America it'd be up in arms defending freedom or some ****.

It's hypocritical.

You act like we are invading countries for no reason. We didn't do it "just because we could" like you are making it sound.

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[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]IF they even knew he was there. What, every time another country is seeking someone who is in America they have the right to send military forces in and wreck havoc to find them?mems_1224

they can try, they probably wont get very far though

That's not the point. The point in America feels like it has the right to do what it wants, like invading foreign countries, but if anyone tried to do that to America it'd be up in arms defending freedom or some ****.

It's hypocritical.

well we have bigger bombs so we basically can do whatever we want. your point??

my god this is off the charts on ignorance and nationalism
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#37 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

The US doesn't stop countries from defending themselves.....thus...it's not hypocritical.

DigitalExile

well we have bigger bombs so we basically can do whatever we want. your point??

mems_1224

My point is a point I cannot openly say on here without probably getting banned.

There is always a right way and a wrong way to express an idea....
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[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]IF they even knew he was there. What, every time another country is seeking someone who is in America they have the right to send military forces in and wreck havoc to find them?SF_KiLLaMaN

they can try, they probably wont get very far though

That's not the point. The point in America feels like it has the right to do what it wants, like invading foreign countries, but if anyone tried to do that to America it'd be up in arms defending freedom or some ****.

It's hypocritical.

You act like we are invading countries for no reason.

where have you been the past decade?
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

The US doesn't stop countries from defending themselves.....thus...it's not hypocritical.

DigitalExile

well we have bigger bombs so we basically can do whatever we want. your point??

mems_1224

My point is a point I cannot openly say on here without probably getting banned.

you dont have a point anyways
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Pakistan is really just a terrible countryevilrobot1991

Yeah they troll Omegle.

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[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

well we have bigger bombs so we basically can do whatever we want. your point??

mems_1224

My point is a point I cannot openly say on here without probably getting banned.

you dont have a point anyways

your the one who thinks we can do whatever the hell we want just because we have a more powerful military...

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your the one who thinks we can do whatever the hell we want just because we have a more powerful military...

mingmao3046

you're the one that doesn't know how to quote properly on gs

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#44 mingmao3046
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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]your the one who thinks we can do whatever the hell we want just because we have a more powerful military...

mems_1224

you're the one that doesn't know how to quote properly on gs

not my fault gamespot still uses this POS forum host...i click "quick quote", type my comment and it screws it up. how is that my fault? way to avoid the topic at hand
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#45 DigitalExile
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There is always a right way and a wrong way to express an idea....LJS9502_basic
Not on here there isn't.

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#46 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]your the one who thinks we can do whatever the hell we want just because we have a more powerful military...

mingmao3046

you're the one that doesn't know how to quote properly on gs

not my fault gamespot still uses this POS forum host...i click "quick quote", type my comment and it screws it up. how is that my fault? way to avoid the topic at hand

i didn't avoid anything. i was pointing out that you dont know how the internet works.
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#47 DigitalExile
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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] you're the one that doesn't know how to quote properly on gs

mems_1224

not my fault gamespot still uses this POS forum host...i click "quick quote", type my comment and it screws it up. how is that my fault? way to avoid the topic at hand

i didn't avoid anything. i was pointing out that you dont know how the internet works.

It's not "the internet" it's Gamespots HTML editor thingy which sometimes deletes the quote tags when you post.

Also you clearly avoided the topic and refuse to acknowledge my point.

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Pakistan is free to do whatever memorial it sees fit for the innocent people that have been killed. Just because the US has a memorial for 9/11 victims, doesn't mean that others are less valuable. People tend to honor their own. I dont see Pakistan making memorials for the July terror bombing victims in London, I dont see Russia honoring the dead from the Madrid bombings, I dont see South Africa with a memorial to those killed in the atomic blasts at nagasaki and hiroshima. Doesnt mean they dont care, it's just they are focused on their own citizens like every other nation on this planet.

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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] you're the one that doesn't know how to quote properly on gs

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not my fault gamespot still uses this POS forum host...i click "quick quote", type my comment and it screws it up. how is that my fault? way to avoid the topic at hand

i didn't avoid anything. i was pointing out that you dont know how the internet works.

again, it is not my fault that this reply malfunctions. care to address the topic? you apparently think just because we have a bigger military we can do whatever we want

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"] not my fault gamespot still uses this POS forum host...i click "quick quote", type my comment and it screws it up. how is that my fault? way to avoid the topic at handDigitalExile

i didn't avoid anything. i was pointing out that you dont know how the internet works.

It's not "the internet" it's Gamespots HTML editor thingy which sometimes deletes the quote tags when you post.

Also you clearly avoided the topic and refuse to acknowledge my point.

you didnt have a point