Why won't Obama release his birth certificate?

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Why would he need to show everyone his birth certificate? o_o

hell_blazer899

exoneration

He doesn't need to prove anything in regards to his nationality.

striking. why would his dad name Hussein as his middle name?

Hussein is just a name.

Being a natural-born US citizen is a prerequisite in order for one to run for President.

His nationality need not be questioned.

guys if there was a really an issue if obama wasnt born in usa. we would of know by now. we know the check these things out before they run.

common sense now stop complaing obama was born in usa get used to it.

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Why would he need to show everyone his birth certificate? o_o

SaintLeonidas

exoneration

He doesn't need to prove anything in regards to his nationality.

The man is running for office.....I would assume that he has everything to prove.....

so you to believe he made it this far without already proving this? Wow

I haven't done much research into the subject of his nationality but history has taught us how far a presidential hopeful can make it to the top despite all of the questionable aspects and dug-up dirt.

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Why would he need to show everyone his birth certificate? o_o

hell_blazer899

exoneration

He doesn't need to prove anything in regards to his nationality.

striking. why would his dad name Hussein as his middle name?

*facepalm* His full Name isBarack Hussein Obama II do you see that "II" behind his name? It's because his dad's name isBarack Hussein Obama. I can't believe people actually buy into that bull**** that rightwing nut jobs spew. By your logic if your middle name was Hitler that would make you a Nazi.

guys if there was a really an issue if obama wasnt born in usa. we would of know by now. we know the check these things out before they run.

common sense now stop complaing obama was born in usa get used to it.

fbigent34

unfortunately common sense, or even logic is thrown out the window when people are this bias or against a candidate.

Something like this happened in my country's general elections this year. The opposing (Labour) party knew that it was lagging in the polls so about 2 weeks before voting day they started saying that under the party currently in power(Christian Democratic) we will have no more free healthcare. All this based on no decent evidence...

Yes, I'm sure Obama is a terrorist bent on destroying America...

When you start making rediculous claims about the opposition instead of trying to promote your ideologies, you start to look a bit desperate.

the_one34

Kinda like Obama's argument that McCain will be Bush's "third term."

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Why would he need to show everyone his birth certificate? o_o

hell_blazer899

exoneration

He doesn't need to prove anything in regards to his nationality.

striking. why would his dad name Hussein as his middle name?

so your questioning him beacuse of his name? really now thats low.... even low for republicans.

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Why would he need to show everyone his birth certificate? o_o

LikeHaterade

exoneration

He doesn't need to prove anything in regards to his nationality.

The man is running for office.....I would assume that he has everything to prove.....

so you to believe he made it this far without already proving this? Wow

I haven't done much research into the subject of his nationality but history has taught us how far a presidential hopeful can make it to the top despite all of the questionable aspects and dug-up dirt.

right, so you believe he frauded the national government with help of multiple national officials in order to make it this far? So you think the DNC would allow this, something this huge to go unnoticed, something that if proven would destroy his hopes of being president, and not just make him prove it so they could get another candidate? its all one big conspiracy for people isnt it?

even if your rep dont buy into this, please lol

[QUOTE="fbigent34"]

guys if there was a really an issue if obama wasnt born in usa. we would of know by now. we know the check these things out before they run.

common sense now stop complaing obama was born in usa get used to it.

SaintLeonidas

unfortunately common sense, or even logic is thrown out the window when people are this bias or against a candidate.

funny i like the obama name easy said sound like english to me. even though its middle east who cares its a name. obama is a good name.

maybe i should name my kids obama and osma just to scare the people.

[QUOTE="the_one34"]

Something like this happened in my country's general elections this year. The opposing (Labour) party knew that it was lagging in the polls so about 2 weeks before voting day they started saying that under the party currently in power(Christian Democratic) we will have no more free healthcare. All this based on no decent evidence...

Yes, I'm sure Obama is a terrorist bent on destroying America...

When you start making rediculous claims about the opposition instead of trying to promote your ideologies, you start to look a bit desperate.

bungie93

Kinda like Obama's argument that McCain will be Bush's "third term."

agurmenet? there is fact backing it up thats the point. he voted fore bush 90% of the time. that means 10% he didnt. hmm...

I think you guys are failing to see the big picture.

If he has nothing to hide, why wouldn't he just release his birth certificate? All he has to do is tell his campaign to release the records. That's it.

If the records are genuine, then the issue becomes a moot point and people will stop questioning whether or not he can even run for president.

The only reason he has not released his records is that he has something to hide.

I think you guys are failing to see the big picture.

If he has nothing to hide, why wouldn't he just release his birth certificate? All he has to do is tell his campaign to release the records. That's it.

If the records are genuine, then the issue becomes a moot point and people will stop questioning whether or not he can even run for president.

The only reason he has not released his records is that he has something to hide.

bungie93

the fact that you cant accpet something that dosent look real to you. the fact you have a sign of an icon/avtar saying no obama. the fact your not looking into common sense.

i cant even take you serious anymore.

the fact i am sure fbi and someone would of said something about now if it was illegal brith cerifciate and dosent need to show it.

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Why would he need to show everyone his birth certificate? o_o

SaintLeonidas

exoneration

He doesn't need to prove anything in regards to his nationality.

The man is running for office.....I would assume that he has everything to prove.....

so you to believe he made it this far without already proving this? Wow

I haven't done much research into the subject of his nationality but history has taught us how far a presidential hopeful can make it to the top despite all of the questionable aspects and dug-up dirt.

right, so you believe he frauded the national government with help of multiple national officials in order to make it this far? So you think the DNC would allow this, something this huge to go unnoticed, something that if proven would destroy his hopes of being president, and not just make him prove it so they could get another candidate? its all one big conspiracy for people isnt it?

even if your rep dont buy into this, please lol

Where was Obama born?

I think you guys are failing to see the big picture.

If he has nothing to hide, why wouldn't he just release his birth certificate? All he has to do is tell his campaign to release the records. That's it.

If the records are genuine, then the issue becomes a moot point and people will stop questioning whether or not he can even run for president.

The only reason he has not released his records is that he has something to hide.

bungie93

Apparently you ignored the thing at the bottom of that article saying that the certificate is infact real.

[QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="the_one34"]

Something like this happened in my country's general elections this year. The opposing (Labour) party knew that it was lagging in the polls so about 2 weeks before voting day they started saying that under the party currently in power(Christian Democratic) we will have no more free healthcare. All this based on no decent evidence...

Yes, I'm sure Obama is a terrorist bent on destroying America...

When you start making rediculous claims about the opposition instead of trying to promote your ideologies, you start to look a bit desperate.

fbigent34

Kinda like Obama's argument that McCain will be Bush's "third term."

agurmenet? there is fact backing it up thats the point. he voted fore bush 90% of the time. that means 10% he didnt. hmm...

Ok, but how does that mean he will be Bush's third term?

Obama probably votes with Nancy Pelosi over 90% of the time. Does that mean they would both be the EXACT same president? Of course not.

I think you guys are failing to see the big picture.

If he has nothing to hide, why wouldn't he just release his birth certificate? All he has to do is tell his campaign to release the records. That's it.

If the records are genuine, then the issue becomes a moot point and people will stop questioning whether or not he can even run for president.

The only reason he has not released his records is that he has something to hide.

bungie93

but you dont get it do you...he did openly release his records, multiple sources back him in that they are genuine...it is you who claim they are false and then ask for him to reveal his "real" document...but the thing is, he already did, you are acting like he is hiding something, but he already released them

[QUOTE="fbigent34"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="the_one34"]

Something like this happened in my country's general elections this year. The opposing (Labour) party knew that it was lagging in the polls so about 2 weeks before voting day they started saying that under the party currently in power(Christian Democratic) we will have no more free healthcare. All this based on no decent evidence...

Yes, I'm sure Obama is a terrorist bent on destroying America...

When you start making rediculous claims about the opposition instead of trying to promote your ideologies, you start to look a bit desperate.

bungie93

Kinda like Obama's argument that McCain will be Bush's "third term."

agurmenet? there is fact backing it up thats the point. he voted fore bush 90% of the time. that means 10% he didnt. hmm...

Ok, but how does that mean he will be Bush's third term?

Obama probably votes with Nancy Pelosi over 90% of the time. Does that mean they would both be the EXACT same president? Of course not.

let see supporting the same thing voting simliar to him... all spells bush for a thrid term.

[QUOTE="bungie93"]

I think you guys are failing to see the big picture.

If he has nothing to hide, why wouldn't he just release his birth certificate? All he has to do is tell his campaign to release the records. That's it.

If the records are genuine, then the issue becomes a moot point and people will stop questioning whether or not he can even run for president.

The only reason he has not released his records is that he has something to hide.

Guybrush_3

Apparently you ignored the thing at the bottom of that article saying that the certificate is infact real.

How long ago was that article posted? It was proved to be fake almost immediately after the article surfaced. The typeface was generated by a computer, NOT by a typewriter. And besides, did the L.A. Times just endorse Obama?

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Why would he need to show everyone his birth certificate? o_o

LikeHaterade

exoneration

He doesn't need to prove anything in regards to his nationality.

The man is running for office.....I would assume that he has everything to prove.....

so you to believe he made it this far without already proving this? Wow

I haven't done much research into the subject of his nationality but history has taught us how far a presidential hopeful can make it to the top despite all of the questionable aspects and dug-up dirt.

right, so you believe he frauded the national government with help of multiple national officials in order to make it this far? So you think the DNC would allow this, something this huge to go unnoticed, something that if proven would destroy his hopes of being president, and not just make him prove it so they could get another candidate? its all one big conspiracy for people isnt it?

even if your rep dont buy into this, please lol

Where was Obama born?

Honolulu, Hawaii in 1961

Yeah, I know. But someone had to do it.

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

I think you guys are failing to see the big picture.

If he has nothing to hide, why wouldn't he just release his birth certificate? All he has to do is tell his campaign to release the records. That's it.

If the records are genuine, then the issue becomes a moot point and people will stop questioning whether or not he can even run for president.

The only reason he has not released his records is that he has something to hide.

bungie93

Apparently you ignored the thing at the bottom of that article saying that the certificate is infact real.

How long ago was that article posted? It was proved to be fake almost immediately after the article surfaced. The typeface was generated by a computer, NOT by a typewriter. And besides, did the L.A. Times just endorse Obama?

No you been saying its proven fake why dont you back your statement up? what does it matter if the paper eddorse obama? your saying there bias beacuse there realsed a cerficate of a birth of obama?

that you cant accpet that is real.

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

I think you guys are failing to see the big picture.

If he has nothing to hide, why wouldn't he just release his birth certificate? All he has to do is tell his campaign to release the records. That's it.

If the records are genuine, then the issue becomes a moot point and people will stop questioning whether or not he can even run for president.

The only reason he has not released his records is that he has something to hide.

bungie93

Apparently you ignored the thing at the bottom of that article saying that the certificate is infact real.

How long ago was that article posted? It was proved to be fake almost immediately after the article surfaced. The typeface was generated by a computer, NOT by a typewriter. And besides, did the L.A. Times just endorse Obama?

you do realize that copies of birth certificates are made on computers.

[QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="Guybrush_3"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

I think you guys are failing to see the big picture.

If he has nothing to hide, why wouldn't he just release his birth certificate? All he has to do is tell his campaign to release the records. That's it.

If the records are genuine, then the issue becomes a moot point and people will stop questioning whether or not he can even run for president.

The only reason he has not released his records is that he has something to hide.

fbigent34

Apparently you ignored the thing at the bottom of that article saying that the certificate is infact real.

How long ago was that article posted? It was proved to be fake almost immediately after the article surfaced. The typeface was generated by a computer, NOT by a typewriter. And besides, did the L.A. Times just endorse Obama?

No you been saying its proven fake why dont you back your statement up? what does it matter if the paper eddorse obama? your saying there bias beacuse there realsed a cerficate of a birth of obama?

that you cant accpet that is real.

The birth certificate was acknowledge to be fake. What more do you need?

How long ago was that article posted? It was proved to be fake almost immediately after the article surfaced. The typeface was generated by a computer, NOT by a typewriter. And besides, did the L.A. Times just endorse Obama?

bungie93

OK, give this one a try. By the way, if you're so concerned about transparancy, why aren't you up in arms about McCain refusing to release his POW or medical records? Why aren't you up in arms about the 5 million missing emails from Karl Rove's office? Why aren't you up in arms about Bush sealing the records on his father for another 25 years, in contravention with tradition and possibly even law?

Proof Obama's certificate is real

[QUOTE="fbigent34"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="Guybrush_3"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

I think you guys are failing to see the big picture.

If he has nothing to hide, why wouldn't he just release his birth certificate? All he has to do is tell his campaign to release the records. That's it.

If the records are genuine, then the issue becomes a moot point and people will stop questioning whether or not he can even run for president.

The only reason he has not released his records is that he has something to hide.

bungie93

Apparently you ignored the thing at the bottom of that article saying that the certificate is infact real.

How long ago was that article posted? It was proved to be fake almost immediately after the article surfaced. The typeface was generated by a computer, NOT by a typewriter. And besides, did the L.A. Times just endorse Obama?

No you been saying its proven fake why dont you back your statement up? what does it matter if the paper eddorse obama? your saying there bias beacuse there realsed a cerficate of a birth of obama?

that you cant accpet that is real.

The birth certificate was acknowledge to be fake. What more do you need?

acknowledge to be fake by who? you? no news sources has proof its fake, McCain has never given out any proof its fake. The only people saying its fake are anti-Obama reps. who will do and say anything to discredit him.

If this is not phony controversy, I do not what is.

The birth certificate was acknowledge to be fake. What more do you need?

bungie93

a CREDIBLE source

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Why would he need to show everyone his birth certificate? o_o

SaintLeonidas

exoneration

He doesn't need to prove anything in regards to his nationality.

The man is running for office.....I would assume that he has everything to prove.....

so you to believe he made it this far without already proving this? Wow

I haven't done much research into the subject of his nationality but history has taught us how far a presidential hopeful can make it to the top despite all of the questionable aspects and dug-up dirt.

right, so you believe he frauded the national government with help of multiple national officials in order to make it this far? So you think the DNC would allow this, something this huge to go unnoticed, something that if proven would destroy his hopes of being president, and not just make him prove it so they could get another candidate? its all one big conspiracy for people isnt it?

even if your rep dont buy into this, please lol

Where was Obama born?

Honolulu, Hawaii in 1961

Yes I just stumbled upon it. It seems he has a birth certificate from there as well. I can't even find a lot of evidence to support the claim that he was born in Kenya. I wouldn't have believe he frauded anything, but possibly hid information so that it may be overlooked by an authority or perhaps fraudulent logistics pertaining to a move that took place when he was a newborn. It was possible, but like I said, I didn't do much research on it. I will tell you that Obama is a U.S. citizen.

[QUOTE="bungie93"]

The birth certificate was acknowledge to be fake. What more do you need?

Guybrush_3

a CREDIBLE source

thank you

obama hater aka bungie93

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_certificate

read the wiki jeeze.

When the list of new lines of attack on Obama run dry, must we come full circle and dredge up old ones that have already been fully discredited?

There is nothing to this story whatsoever (even calling it a "story" is giving it too much credit).

If someone actually managed to become a presidential candidate without proof that he meets all the legal qualification, than this country is clearly broken beyond repair.yabbicoke

striking. why would his dad name Hussein as his middle name?

hell_blazer899

His dad's name was also Barack Hussein Obama. He was named after his father. That is an exceptionally common circumstance; John McCain was named after his father too. No mystery there.

[QUOTE="bungie93"]

How long ago was that article posted? It was proved to be fake almost immediately after the article surfaced. The typeface was generated by a computer, NOT by a typewriter. And besides, did the L.A. Times just endorse Obama?

bogaty

OK, give this one a try. By the way, if you're so concerned about transparancy, why aren't you up in arms about McCain refusing to release his POW or medical records? Why aren't you up in arms about the 5 million missing emails from Karl Rove's office? Why aren't you up in arms about Bush sealing the records on his father for another 25 years, in contravention with tradition and possibly even law?

Proof Obama's certificate is real

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

That just links to the same article from the L.A. times that was proved to be fake!

The typeface on that birth certificate was generated by a computer.

Here you go. Do you even bother to look things up?

If someone actually managed to become a presidential candidate without proof that he meets all the legal qualification, than this country is clearly broken beyond repair.yabbicoke

The fact that Obama is even the nominee for the Democratic Party proves that claim.

[QUOTE="bogaty"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

How long ago was that article posted? It was proved to be fake almost immediately after the article surfaced. The typeface was generated by a computer, NOT by a typewriter. And besides, did the L.A. Times just endorse Obama?

bungie93

OK, give this one a try. By the way, if you're so concerned about transparancy, why aren't you up in arms about McCain refusing to release his POW or medical records? Why aren't you up in arms about the 5 million missing emails from Karl Rove's office? Why aren't you up in arms about Bush sealing the records on his father for another 25 years, in contravention with tradition and possibly even law?

Proof Obama's certificate is real

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

That just links to the same article from the L.A. times that was proved to be fake!

The typeface on that birth certificate was generated by a computer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_certificate#Short_forms

Read it and shut up. unless of course you would like me to man handle you some more.

Here you go. Do you even bother to look things up?

btaylor2404

[QUOTE="yabbicoke"]If someone actually managed to become a presidential candidate without proof that he meets all the legal qualification, than this country is clearly broken beyond repair.bungie93

The fact that Obama is even the nominee for the Democratic Party proves that claim.

he won fair and sqaure. move on you know your wrong.

bungie93- The first was a purely mechanical, limited use machine in the 1870s. i can not remember the inventors name.

seem you alitte late there.

[QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="bogaty"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

How long ago was that article posted? It was proved to be fake almost immediately after the article surfaced. The typeface was generated by a computer, NOT by a typewriter. And besides, did the L.A. Times just endorse Obama?

Guybrush_3

OK, give this one a try. By the way, if you're so concerned about transparancy, why aren't you up in arms about McCain refusing to release his POW or medical records? Why aren't you up in arms about the 5 million missing emails from Karl Rove's office? Why aren't you up in arms about Bush sealing the records on his father for another 25 years, in contravention with tradition and possibly even law?

Proof Obama's certificate is real

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

That just links to the same article from the L.A. times that was proved to be fake!

The typeface on that birth certificate was generated by a computer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_certificate#Short_forms

Read it and shut up. unless of course you would like me to man handle you some more.

I love it when you man handle me ;)

[QUOTE="btaylor2404"]

Here you go. Do you even bother to look things up?

bungie93

They didn't have computers in 1961. You're telling me that birth certificate was produced by a typewriter? It's a total sham.

There is also a copy on his website. Nothing left for you to do but sulk for the next 4-8 years. Your argument's are pointless and all beaten down.

That just links to the same article from the L.A. times that was proved to be fake!

The typeface on that birth certificate was generated by a computer.

bungie93

What exactly are you even asserting? That Obama is a foreign national who shouldn't be running for president, or something?

[QUOTE="yabbicoke"]If someone actually managed to become a presidential candidate without proof that he meets all the legal qualification, than this country is clearly broken beyond repair.bungie93

The fact that Obama is even the nominee for the Democratic Party proves that claim.

That was determined by the American people unles you want to claim voter fraud. Please provide a source that at least attmepts to show that his birth certificate is fake. Avoiding this provides nothing to us.

I love it when you man handle me ;)

bungie93

and you avoid the actual content of the post.

[QUOTE="bungie93"]

I love it when you man handle me ;)

Guybrush_3

and you avoid the actual content of the post.

That looked like some "actual content" from the post to me. Manlove.....gross. Sheesh I'm out.

*Opens door and leaves*

That just links to the same article from the L.A. times that was proved to be fake!

The typeface on that birth certificate was generated by a computer.

bungie93

I searched that entire document and found no links to the L.A. Times. As someone already mentioned, it could have been a copy. Why are you avoiding this?

[QUOTE="bungie93"]

That just links to the same article from the L.A. times that was proved to be fake!

The typeface on that birth certificate was generated by a computer.

Genetic_Code

I searched that entire document and found no links to the L.A. Times. As someone already mentioned, it could have been a copy. Why are you avoiding this?

because is so dilusional that he ignores all facts and reason

The IBM 7030, also known as Stretch, was IBM's first transistorized supercomputer. The first one was delivered to Los Alamos in 1961."

"Originally priced at $13.5 million, its failure to meet its aggressive performance estimates forced the price to be dropped to only $7.78 million and its withdrawal from sales to customers beyond those having already negotiated contracts. Even though the 7030 was much slower than expected, it was the fastest computer in the world from 1961 until 1964."